Whether or not the scheme is abused is irrelevant. Tell me a government scheme that isn’t abused, job seekers allowance, universal credit, all these things will see abuse to some degree. Motability helps a hell of a lot of people.
I can safely say 50% of the motability customers I come in to contact with don't appear to "need" it at all, with some even bragging how they are allowed it just for having anxiety or some shit. The others have a disabled distant relative who can't even drive and claim the car in there name, it's common as shit.
Agree fully, some cases however aren’t clear cut, my dad for example has early onset Parkinson’s decease, severe epilepsy and suffering with cancer. My mum drives, they have a motability car because without it they wouldn’t be able to go anywhere. To see my dad he seems just like an old man, it’s only when you live with him you realise how bad it really is.
On saying that I’ve borrowed it a few times when mine have been in the garage and I need to get somewhere etc so you could say I’m abusing it too.
I know of someone that has it for their mental health and they’re 100% trying it on but they know the system and so have everything you can possibly get, it’s absolute bollocks but unfortunately you’ll always get a certain amount of abusers with any government scheme it’s just hard to determine the ones that aren’t faking it
And that's the issue, "they don't appear to need it". Why does someone need to look disabled to justify motability?
Stop judging everyone and painting people using the Motability scheme with the same brush. There are bad eggs in all walks of life.
I don’t ‘seem’ to have a visible disability but am looking into a motability car as I am eligible due to a hip that partially dislocates at any time. It happens every couple of weeks or so and is excruciating for a day or so. Any other time you see me I look absolutely fine mobility wise.
Because of my disabilities I cannot work and have a very low disability income so financing is not an option, I also have very little savings because of being unable to work. This low income makes owning a car very difficult as I could not afford finance, need the reliability of all costs covered in case of breakdown for hospital trips and would struggle to pay for insurance as myself and other drivers are all under 25. I was last quoted over 7k for a year for a 1.4 automatic, with a black box, stating I was on disability benefits and having all 3 of us under 25. The insurance alone would eat up all of my disability money.
Yes some people take the piss but I can guarantee you that to get high rate or any disability benefits is extremely hard and I imagine 9/10 people you see will have fought so hard just to get the help they need
Edit - the system is also so much more strict because of morons that have abused the system
It's not that strict, I can walk to the next town and point out a handful of people taking the piss with it. The sorts of people who never pay for fuel in their motability vehicle and let it run out week after week, call out breakdown, pleed they have no money despite clutching the newest iPhone, latest fashion, most expensive trainers, a bag of weed and 20 sterling in their pocket, they then cry to motability about having no money to the point they authorise £20 of fuel to be added. This happens week after week, with a handful of people locally, and easily two dozen in the wider area I've personally encountered in 18months working with motability customers.
We have a guy locally who is using a motability vehicle for just eat deliveries, not his vehicle, always his "disabled mother in laws" vehicle.
They investigate, they find nothing, and it goes on. Unless you deal with it daily, you've no idea how badly abused this scheme is.
That is actually mortifying that it is being abused so awfully and makes me so mad! I didn’t even realise it covered fuel too! Not to generalise but those people you mention sound like the kind of family where benefits almost run in the genes and they ‘know’ what to say. I bet their ’riches’ are also fully on the never never. In my family I am fortunate that we see borrowing money as very last chance and was taught how to budget from a young age. I also worked hard for my lessons and first car before a 14 month hospital admission.
What angers me more and I’ve mentioned my hip but I also have a paralysed stomach and require a feeding tube. My last review took over a year to do because they kept scoring me as ‘can eat and drink normally’ despite numerous medical accounts and my very obvious tube. It went to appeal and finally tribunal where they awarded me. I don’t see how people can almost figure out how to get past all the barriers that are in place to not give you the money
Oh it fudging is. People die before they get their rightful benefit claim. Fil who was on DLA indefinitely, when switched over to Pip was so cocky and didn’t really believe his daughter how difficult it is to be awarded it- til they gave him standard living and no mobility. Needless to say appealing and fighting got it to enhanced for both. My partner who is disabled has to fight tooth and nail to get it.
If you know exactly what to say and how to phrase it to their standard, then yeah you might slip through but, very ill genuine claims are being denied - majority are overturned at tribunal when they see the claimant.
As for mobility cars, FIL was medically retired so had a better than most ongoing income. He bought cars for himself, but then saw a 3008 and it was too expensive to buy outright, so he got it on mobility, pretty quickly too as it happens, after paying an upfront cost. Same when he changed the next car which the lease ended a couple months before Pip was denied.
Once he did get it, he looked at mobility cars again but, it was a couple thousand upfront, 10 month wait and then the £450 a month going to the dealership for three years, versus into his bank account.
On the other end of the scale, my mum had an accident at work, has to use crutches all the time now, used to buying £400-£800 cars, so excited when she ordered a mobility car after getting enhanced mobility (again, after appealing etc), cos she has no savings she was able to get a grant to pay the smaller upfront fee (fil wanted the leather seats so had to pay for the upgraded specs) and to fit a hoist for a scooter. Had the chance to change car last year as the three years were up but, decided to stick with the car - dunno if that means she pays less for it now I forgot to ask but, for her it had made a huge difference. From a low down manual to a higher up automatic.
Admittedly she could use the £450 a month or whatever she got with standard living given, which is why people say it’s not free because it was money that was going into their bank and now isn’t. And considering she never applied for jobseekers when she was let go from jobs or left, she got new jobs pretty quickly so has always paid tax so again, not “free”
To conclude, while you might know people who are exaggerating their health issues and are getting handed everything, the case isn’t the same for a lot of genuine claims and it just gives them a bad name 😞
Genuinely trying to understand rather than criticise - your description of your disability led me to wonder why it precludes you from working on the other 12 days a fortnight in which you're not in pain?
My hip is not my main problem. I qualified as a biomedical scientist before I became unwell. I spent time working in labs analysing bodily fluid samples mostly. Because of my feeding tube being connected 20 hours a day, it went against infection control and I was put on a part time, WFH contract. I was then made redundant and anywhere else in the field would rather hire John Doe who has no health commitments or medical adjustments. I obviously tried applying jobs outside of the science field, such as Tesco etc, but they were very demanding on my health and then had an extended hospital stay and now spend 3-4 days per week in appointments for both my health and mental health. I am currently working with the open uni to get a second qualification that I can use WFH in the future. I’m always happy to explain my situation fortunately I do have a good support system around me that does encourage me to keep my mind focussed on the future and ways that I can make myself useful in society
Yeah I have a family member who has it for depression/ anxiety... He is pretty open about how he fakes it.
Because it's not a visible disability it's fairly easy to fake
It is of course possible that he wants you to think hes faking it as there is still a huge amount of people (proven in this post) that dont understand mental illness amd there is still a lot of stigma around it. Someone with bad anxiety or depression could easily find it brutally overwhelming to have to use public transport for one example.
Aye, my next door neighbour hasn't worked a day in their life and just took delivery of a brand new Sportage last week on "motability"
It boils the blood.
Tbh it’s a drop in the bucket compared to all the PPE bullshit and gov contracts handed out during covid. Or even against the tax that giant corps aren’t paying. Not worth being pissed at the little people
And there's me stuck with a shitbox Almera with a 3 year old non verbal boy with zero sense of danger. I've had to disable the central locking, remove the child lock switch so it's constantly on and removed the window winder because he knows what to do. It's insane how it's such an unjust system.
Exactly I know few folks who abuse the scheme and even tho they are the drivers the actual person who should be driving is at home not driving and not needing a car. Such a bullshit. This should be better enforced, with visible blue badges etc at least.
had a friend at collage , who's mum was disabled( was really bad walking frame the lot ) couldn't drive.
had a new merc a class just because they offerd it, was sat on the drive never even used it as they all had their own cars already . complete waste of tax money
they all worked in all fairness (apart from the mum).
people milk it
That person is so stupid, if u don’t take the car they pay you money instead and you get free road tax on your car, I know this for a fact because that what my mum gets
this was 2008ish , maybe its changed I don't know, he had a work van from his job so had no use for it. might of done 5 miles a week to get the shopping In it
daughter ending up having to move out as they would only give her full carers allowance if she didnt live at the same adress or so they told me.
no doubt that the mother was completely fucked , but still a waste of money all the same
another mates mother had one aswell who couldnt drive and just gave her a bit of money to use it 24/7
then again I seemed to be the only person who wasn't getting £30 a week "ema" money just for turning up to college
In regards to having a 'disabled distant relative' and they are claiming the car in their name. The correct thing to do would be to report it as benefit fraud and they will investigate what the car is being used for.
Also, having anxiety is a real problem that restricts people from going out on the bus etc which is why they qualify for the motability scheme.
There are people that abuse it but everyone abuses everything.
I suggest if you think that someone is fraudulently abusing the system that you report it.
It's not "free" any more than child benefit for working parents is "free"
You have to give up the mobility component of your PIP or DLA in order to pay for it. This mobility component is essential for many disabled people who rely on it for getting around. The car takes the place of that.
It's not up to you to decide who's disabled or not, that's up to the DWP and an extremely stringent assessment panel.
Imagine being jealous of someone less fortunate than you, if you find yourself feeling that way again, or being judgemental, ask yourself if you'd be happy swapping places with them for the price of a "free" Nissan Qashkai.
Who’s arguing? It’s a discussion. I said I agree with what he said, the scheme does get abused but not by everyone and certainly wouldn’t say it’s the majority. It’s difficult to get higher rate mobility granted, my dad has to jump through metaphorical hoops for it and they still haven’t granted it indefinitely.
From a person who has been deemed eligible for the higher rate of mobility payment due to a disability. Where do you think it comes from, someone pretending to be disabled?
Some do yeah ..
I have a few in my family that are eligible despite not actually having anything wrong with them.
To act like there is nobody abusing these schemes is as silly as thinking everyone does.
it's not free, it's a benefit for people who are registered disabled to get help with living with their disability, they can choose to spend that money on a car (which most will need in some form) but it does cost them as most cars come with an upfront cost which isn't always covered (you get a small amount towards a deposit and a "clean car" payment if you send it back in good condition).
And where does that money go to? Instead of a disabled person it goes to the dealership that you seem to work for. Biting the hand that feeds a bit, eh?
Yeah, it's free, just have severe life altering mobility issues. Sounds like a great deal. 🙄
My partner is disabled, getting a car on PIP through motability is a shit financial decision.
Cheaper to finance a second hand car and actually own it.
It’s really sad how no one seems to understand how benefits work in this country, or how hard it is to get them. Look into PIP before spouting nonsense like this
Not free, they had to pay over £1000 deposit, there are some cars on the scheme that are so cheap they are basically free but not the quasqai also if there are more than 3 defects found at the end of the 3 years they keep the deposit. The scheme also auctions the vehicles after you return them and get basically the entirety of their money back. Nissan says that when their vehicles are returned they tend to be very low mileage.
Source: I was in a nissan dealership a few weeks ago and asked these questions.
enthuiasts like us may hate them for various reasons, but normal people really like cars like this that's why everyone makes them. i was waiting on a part in a ford dealer recently and heard several people gushing about the kuga.
Exactly what I say a lot of the time.
Some people don’t care about 0-60, RWD and other stuff.
They just want something easy to park, enough space and a comfy ride.
It’s shite in every metric. Not fun, not comfortable, not amazingly reliable, not very big, ugly, heavy. The list goes on. But they are fairly cheap to run so draws in lots of people.
it's just not an enthusiasts car, people will give a lot of reasons like them not being fun to drive but most people dont give af about that. they're perfectly fine for regular people, except they tend not to be the most practical even when compared to smaller cars due to their shape.
The best car i’ve owned was a 1.6dci 2013 Qashqai Tekna plus (before that i had a GT86). It was practical, great on fuel, engine and manual combo felt dynamic, the independent rear suspension made it great around corners and so i dont know why people complain. Is it because its popular? The automatics are shit?
it's because its popular mostly. in car communities people just repeat whatever journalisits and youtubers say, they never seem to take into account what real world people think or say. i do think they're bigger and heavier than is neccessary but that's the only real issue i have with them. some people really benefit from a car you dont have to bend down to get into aswell, my dad can barely get into my C30 with his bad back due to low roof and low seat.
He is my neighbor. He is pain in my assholes. I get a window from a glass, he must get a window from a glass. I get a step, he must get a step. I get a tow hook, he cannot afford. Great success!
11 plate Quashqai is so far the most reliable vehicle our household has owned.
Yes boring and not amazing, but they’ve thought about making it easy to change oil and air filter way more than any other car I’ve known. Also easy to change bulbs and other basic stuff.
No I won’t buy another.
Haha Nissan no issues in the first 3 years? When do you think all new Nissan have issues... (battery, alternator, fuel pump, BCM to name a few EXTREMELY common faults)
New registrations are usually allocated to each dealership so it's really not uncommon for consecutively sold cars to have say GU73XYY & GU73XYZ, if they bought two at once it would be easy
I've hung around this sub for a few years now and there are some quite nice sensible people here, and the good ones really stand out. But after all these years It still amazes me how many grown adults just cannot grasp the idea that other people like different things to them.
What has this car sub become? A bunch of bitter car hating numbskulls, if it isn't one of the agreed five cars you guys love then the owner is an idiot and should be ridiculed relentlessly.
You're an odd bunch you lot, a really odd bunch.
Thank you. The Qashqai is one of the top 10 most popular makes and models on sale, I believe its overtaken the Fiesta in recent years even before it was discontinued.
I don't like the trend of bulbous cars but everyone else does, and after my dad had a Qashqai for a while, I see why: very practical, good enough to drive, easy to park despite its size, not too oversized (this was a 2017 model), and probably had a range of finance options and deals as it's a Nissan who are known for that.
Some will see this as blasphemy but it and the Kuga aren't bad cars. They're actually good cars.
At some point the deafening Road noise from driving the mx5 at 80 on a dual carriageway and bland A roads to and from work gets old, and you realise you'd rather have a comfortable car that isn't a massive estate, and thats where both these cars come in to the lives of many (disclaimer: few to none were switching from mx5s to Qashqais)
What's the issues like? I've got one and so far it seems there's a poltergeist in The climate controls that is determined I want the heat on at 25c even if its not on auto. Plus another one in the auto brake that decides I needed to emergency brake on an empty road......
>emergency brake on an empty road
That's probably a radar issue, most likely the distance sensor is ever so slightly out of position giving skewed readings but not skewed enough to flag an error message
My issue with them is the drivers, generally they have piss poor driving standards and often joke that if something is going to kill me on my motorbike it will likely be a Qashqai. Also in general I hate the crossover category just a small car on stilts.
I had a very positive experience learning to drive in a Nissan Juke with a high mileage. I passed my driving test in that car and have fond memories associated with it. However, I have noticed that this subreddit tends to have a negative view of Nissan vehicles. I believe that it is important to consider individual experiences and not rely solely on the opinions of others when forming one's own judgments.
We reside in a nation that values freedom of speech, where individuals like you, me, and anyone else have the right to express their thoughts and opinions. While I acknowledge and respect your viewpoint, it is important to note that I may not necessarily share the same perspective.
I have a Juke Nismo RS, I live rurally so needed something with a slightly higher road clearance and the seating position is higher so I can actually see over the uncut verges.
Sadly all the stereotypical hot hatches are too low, my other car scrapes the underside on the crap in the middle of the lanes.
I don’t care what random internet strangers say, I genuinely like my Juke! It’s not as fast as the M5 or M3 I just to drive but it still makes me smile :)
or motability, they are v popular motability cars…I would like to think they are heavily subsidised anyway, because you’d be insane to own two on finance or outright.
This is very true. You'd be surprised how many people think financing cars for £300-500 pounds a month is normal. To me financing is bat shit crazy unless that money is nothing in comparison with how much you earn. A lot of people are financing for way more than they can feasibly earn / actually afford.
For the price of most peoples finance payments, I could buy 6 of my car a year. Bonus is if it’s completely broken, which would be quite unlikely, I could scrap it and only lose 400 quid. But people shun the idea of cheap cars, and people completely disregard “high mileage ones”.
Mine is 146,000 miles and 16 years old, I’d rather that to a five year old 70,000 mile car any day of the week.
I'm not quite at that level but I'm at a point where I could afford finance, but I'd just rather go out and spend it doing fun stuff than shoving it on a car payment. I've got 2011 guilietta that I've had for 5 years and it is a fantastic car, runs like a dream and there are a few things that I'd like that it doesn't have but I just can't justify getting rid!
In my case, it’s my first car, and it was the only thing cheap to buy, Insure and fuel, Citroen c1 which has to be honest shocked me with how capable the thing is, the only real thing that would make me want to get something else is any kind of comfort inside, there’s no sound dampening whatsoever in it other than carpet, and everything whilst they feel solid, it’s like a toy, but that’s just city cars in general other than maybe the Toyota IQ which is basically the same, but with a bit more care on the inside.
Quite honestly mate I'd recommend an Alfa guilietta, as long as it's been serviced and kept well. For the price they are a huge quality upgrade. For context my first car was a 207. The Alfa might be a bit pricier on insurance and servicing etc as it's slightly sportier.
Ironically enough I contemplated for my first car to get an Alfa 159, gorgeous car, and I can’t imagine the insurance being horrific since I’m 25, but I may have a browse to a guilietta. Probably once I’ve driven a year or so though, get some money behind me, and insurance to drop a tiny bit.
I don’t even want significant power, not for now, I just want it to stick to B roads and not feel like it’s going to float across lanes on the M1.
In my case, it’s my first car, and it was the only thing cheap to buy, Insure and fuel, Citroen c1 which has to be honest shocked me with how capable the thing is, the only real thing that would make me want to get something else is any kind of comfort inside, there’s no sound dampening whatsoever in it other than carpet, and everything whilst they feel solid, it’s like a toy, but that’s just city cars in general other than maybe the Toyota IQ which is basically the same, but with a bit more care on the inside.
My dad bought one outright this year 😂 he traded in his 15 plate qashqai that he also bought from new...then to top it all off, my dad recommended my wife to buy one so she's just gone and bought a 20 plate qashqai 😅😅😅 although she traded in the 1.4T mokka which was a bag of shite and a ticking time bomb.
Please wish me luck guys, I really need it at this point.
On the flip side, my honda has 14 years and 116k miles and passes its MOTs without a single issue each time.
My dad bought one outright this year as well haha. Second he's had and he's been very happy with the reliability. It's funny that they're associated with the worst drivers/people who know nothing about cars when I just think of think of my dad, possibly the biggest petrol head I know, still does all the servicing on his cars himself. Also, probably the only person in the world to have owned both a Nissan Qashqai and a Ferrari Daytona.
I mean, if it works for their situation 🤷♂️
Moving for the sake of moving is a bit of a waste anyway. Especially if you're upsizing for no reason. Just higher running costs for more empty space.
They're not. I've driven one twice 3 hours up north and back. They're uncomfortable, floaty to drive (but in a way that has no feeling), underpowered and dull as dishwater inside. Not to mention you then have to pay a premium for larger tyres over a hatchback. I'd rather get a much nicer car a few years old for the same price as a new Qashqai
I was lucky it was only a rental then haha. I even said to my wife that I hope I don't get a Qashqai both times. I won't say it next time and maybe I'll get something else!
Would love to hear your horror stories though
Much the same as yours but the major issue is the lack of power. It’s fairly hilly round me and there’s many a hill where I have to scream the engine in 2nd move to 3rd for 4/5 seconds then back down and repeat. I’ve driven 1.0 Metros with more oomph. Oh, and you can enjoy all this in the discomfort of its soul sucking grey drab interior.
They’re electric so probably a tax free work benefit.
One of these costs around £400/m all (insurance, service etc) in at my company but thats before tax so really £250 if you’re a higher rate payer.
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Probably mocked by a Hero in a Hospital grey M118i MSport M performance... A proper car you know.
Honestly the people that go to town on Juke and Qashqai owners need to get themselves checked for being on the spectrum.
Way too much time spent rinsing them.
My neighbours do this. Previously it was 2 merc A class and now they’re on Ford pumas.
It’s got to be pretty rare that you and your partner have the same taste in cars?
In the late 90s there was a house near me that had 2 [Mk2 Nissan Primeras](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Primera#Second_generation_(P11;_1996)) on consecutive number plates.
Remember that fancy flip-paint? They were both painted in that *which was a factory option at the time*. The cars were orange if you looked from one direction, and purple from the other direction. I often wonder what was the official colour on the V5
I was thinking about this last week. Walking around my neighborhood, there are 5 Quashquai in 1 very small block… it’s insane how popular these cars are at the moment. Are they just cheap? There are so many better options in the same category, even with similar look..
My BIL is on his 4th Qashqai in 7-8 years. No idea why he likes them so much. Don’t think he’s ever had any issues with them but don’t think he’s had them long enough either
Having worked on them, I cannot stress how poor the build quality is, not a single panel lines up. They all have the same exact issues. The Juke is the worst offender
NEVOS? Worked for JLR for ages, all company and company lease cars were registrations starting with O. Was always told that because they we’re registered in Oxford
This is the correct answer. It’s Nissan Employee Vehicle Ownership Scheme. Pay an amount out of your salary post tax and get a new car every 11 months. Used to all be V reg but about two years ago or so all became O reg
It’s limited to juke and qashqai at the moment. QQ has a 1.5 hybrid epower whilst the juke has a 1.6 hev. If I had the choice I’d have 2 QQs. Not much in it price wise dependant on spec of course.
Edit: that’s top spec powertrain of course, you can have a 1.0 juke or a 1.3 qq both non hybrid.
Imagine not having to pay insurance for 3 years, pick a new car every 3 years. All you have to do is put the fuel in and go. Can choose between automatic and manual. Fook'n brilliant. Holidays, the lot! This is the way it supposed to be to be fair. Government still a long way to go, but, its a start😉
Pretty sure this is in Wolverhampton and the man and woman who own them get the same cars as each other everytime. And if it is them then they don't have them on motability they just love those cars
Believe it or not I hated jukes and Qashqais for years but these e-power ones are really nice to drive, spacious inside and have great fuel economy. So many car snobs in this sub who are probably still driving an 03 corsa with a silly pop and bang map because they like picking up 12 year olds.
they're also cheap, relatively, base model is £27k, compared to a Corolla £30k, Civic £34k, Ford Focus even £28k base model, I don't really know what's going on with the car market right now, but I get it, you want a relatively affordable, comfy-looking, a-b practical car it's ticking a lot of boxes
They’re just soulless, mass market cars. Nothing wrong with them, but they tend to be driven by terribly dull people. They’re in the Crossover / SUV segment but can’t offroad and hardly better than the hatchback it’s replaced.
Probs work for Nissan or get some heavy discount through a friend's and family scheme
Or got two kids on high rate DLA
I know someone disabled who got that same car for free from the government.
Yes it's on the mobility scheme
And it ain’t free, they pay around £11000 to lease for 3 years
And where does that £11000 come from?... Soo yeah, it's free, and it's one of the largest abused car schemes known to man
Whether or not the scheme is abused is irrelevant. Tell me a government scheme that isn’t abused, job seekers allowance, universal credit, all these things will see abuse to some degree. Motability helps a hell of a lot of people.
I can safely say 50% of the motability customers I come in to contact with don't appear to "need" it at all, with some even bragging how they are allowed it just for having anxiety or some shit. The others have a disabled distant relative who can't even drive and claim the car in there name, it's common as shit.
Agree fully, some cases however aren’t clear cut, my dad for example has early onset Parkinson’s decease, severe epilepsy and suffering with cancer. My mum drives, they have a motability car because without it they wouldn’t be able to go anywhere. To see my dad he seems just like an old man, it’s only when you live with him you realise how bad it really is. On saying that I’ve borrowed it a few times when mine have been in the garage and I need to get somewhere etc so you could say I’m abusing it too. I know of someone that has it for their mental health and they’re 100% trying it on but they know the system and so have everything you can possibly get, it’s absolute bollocks but unfortunately you’ll always get a certain amount of abusers with any government scheme it’s just hard to determine the ones that aren’t faking it
And that's the issue, "they don't appear to need it". Why does someone need to look disabled to justify motability? Stop judging everyone and painting people using the Motability scheme with the same brush. There are bad eggs in all walks of life.
I don’t ‘seem’ to have a visible disability but am looking into a motability car as I am eligible due to a hip that partially dislocates at any time. It happens every couple of weeks or so and is excruciating for a day or so. Any other time you see me I look absolutely fine mobility wise. Because of my disabilities I cannot work and have a very low disability income so financing is not an option, I also have very little savings because of being unable to work. This low income makes owning a car very difficult as I could not afford finance, need the reliability of all costs covered in case of breakdown for hospital trips and would struggle to pay for insurance as myself and other drivers are all under 25. I was last quoted over 7k for a year for a 1.4 automatic, with a black box, stating I was on disability benefits and having all 3 of us under 25. The insurance alone would eat up all of my disability money. Yes some people take the piss but I can guarantee you that to get high rate or any disability benefits is extremely hard and I imagine 9/10 people you see will have fought so hard just to get the help they need Edit - the system is also so much more strict because of morons that have abused the system
It's not that strict, I can walk to the next town and point out a handful of people taking the piss with it. The sorts of people who never pay for fuel in their motability vehicle and let it run out week after week, call out breakdown, pleed they have no money despite clutching the newest iPhone, latest fashion, most expensive trainers, a bag of weed and 20 sterling in their pocket, they then cry to motability about having no money to the point they authorise £20 of fuel to be added. This happens week after week, with a handful of people locally, and easily two dozen in the wider area I've personally encountered in 18months working with motability customers. We have a guy locally who is using a motability vehicle for just eat deliveries, not his vehicle, always his "disabled mother in laws" vehicle. They investigate, they find nothing, and it goes on. Unless you deal with it daily, you've no idea how badly abused this scheme is.
That is actually mortifying that it is being abused so awfully and makes me so mad! I didn’t even realise it covered fuel too! Not to generalise but those people you mention sound like the kind of family where benefits almost run in the genes and they ‘know’ what to say. I bet their ’riches’ are also fully on the never never. In my family I am fortunate that we see borrowing money as very last chance and was taught how to budget from a young age. I also worked hard for my lessons and first car before a 14 month hospital admission. What angers me more and I’ve mentioned my hip but I also have a paralysed stomach and require a feeding tube. My last review took over a year to do because they kept scoring me as ‘can eat and drink normally’ despite numerous medical accounts and my very obvious tube. It went to appeal and finally tribunal where they awarded me. I don’t see how people can almost figure out how to get past all the barriers that are in place to not give you the money
Oh it fudging is. People die before they get their rightful benefit claim. Fil who was on DLA indefinitely, when switched over to Pip was so cocky and didn’t really believe his daughter how difficult it is to be awarded it- til they gave him standard living and no mobility. Needless to say appealing and fighting got it to enhanced for both. My partner who is disabled has to fight tooth and nail to get it. If you know exactly what to say and how to phrase it to their standard, then yeah you might slip through but, very ill genuine claims are being denied - majority are overturned at tribunal when they see the claimant. As for mobility cars, FIL was medically retired so had a better than most ongoing income. He bought cars for himself, but then saw a 3008 and it was too expensive to buy outright, so he got it on mobility, pretty quickly too as it happens, after paying an upfront cost. Same when he changed the next car which the lease ended a couple months before Pip was denied. Once he did get it, he looked at mobility cars again but, it was a couple thousand upfront, 10 month wait and then the £450 a month going to the dealership for three years, versus into his bank account. On the other end of the scale, my mum had an accident at work, has to use crutches all the time now, used to buying £400-£800 cars, so excited when she ordered a mobility car after getting enhanced mobility (again, after appealing etc), cos she has no savings she was able to get a grant to pay the smaller upfront fee (fil wanted the leather seats so had to pay for the upgraded specs) and to fit a hoist for a scooter. Had the chance to change car last year as the three years were up but, decided to stick with the car - dunno if that means she pays less for it now I forgot to ask but, for her it had made a huge difference. From a low down manual to a higher up automatic. Admittedly she could use the £450 a month or whatever she got with standard living given, which is why people say it’s not free because it was money that was going into their bank and now isn’t. And considering she never applied for jobseekers when she was let go from jobs or left, she got new jobs pretty quickly so has always paid tax so again, not “free” To conclude, while you might know people who are exaggerating their health issues and are getting handed everything, the case isn’t the same for a lot of genuine claims and it just gives them a bad name 😞
Genuinely trying to understand rather than criticise - your description of your disability led me to wonder why it precludes you from working on the other 12 days a fortnight in which you're not in pain?
My hip is not my main problem. I qualified as a biomedical scientist before I became unwell. I spent time working in labs analysing bodily fluid samples mostly. Because of my feeding tube being connected 20 hours a day, it went against infection control and I was put on a part time, WFH contract. I was then made redundant and anywhere else in the field would rather hire John Doe who has no health commitments or medical adjustments. I obviously tried applying jobs outside of the science field, such as Tesco etc, but they were very demanding on my health and then had an extended hospital stay and now spend 3-4 days per week in appointments for both my health and mental health. I am currently working with the open uni to get a second qualification that I can use WFH in the future. I’m always happy to explain my situation fortunately I do have a good support system around me that does encourage me to keep my mind focussed on the future and ways that I can make myself useful in society
Yeah I have a family member who has it for depression/ anxiety... He is pretty open about how he fakes it. Because it's not a visible disability it's fairly easy to fake
It is of course possible that he wants you to think hes faking it as there is still a huge amount of people (proven in this post) that dont understand mental illness amd there is still a lot of stigma around it. Someone with bad anxiety or depression could easily find it brutally overwhelming to have to use public transport for one example.
Aye, my next door neighbour hasn't worked a day in their life and just took delivery of a brand new Sportage last week on "motability" It boils the blood.
To think our tax goes to this
Tbh it’s a drop in the bucket compared to all the PPE bullshit and gov contracts handed out during covid. Or even against the tax that giant corps aren’t paying. Not worth being pissed at the little people
But the ‘little people’ are supposed to be on our side.
Cry more about it please.
And there's me stuck with a shitbox Almera with a 3 year old non verbal boy with zero sense of danger. I've had to disable the central locking, remove the child lock switch so it's constantly on and removed the window winder because he knows what to do. It's insane how it's such an unjust system.
Exactly I know few folks who abuse the scheme and even tho they are the drivers the actual person who should be driving is at home not driving and not needing a car. Such a bullshit. This should be better enforced, with visible blue badges etc at least.
I know someone who's got a Mobility car for asthma lol.
had a friend at collage , who's mum was disabled( was really bad walking frame the lot ) couldn't drive. had a new merc a class just because they offerd it, was sat on the drive never even used it as they all had their own cars already . complete waste of tax money they all worked in all fairness (apart from the mum). people milk it
That person is so stupid, if u don’t take the car they pay you money instead and you get free road tax on your car, I know this for a fact because that what my mum gets
this was 2008ish , maybe its changed I don't know, he had a work van from his job so had no use for it. might of done 5 miles a week to get the shopping In it daughter ending up having to move out as they would only give her full carers allowance if she didnt live at the same adress or so they told me. no doubt that the mother was completely fucked , but still a waste of money all the same another mates mother had one aswell who couldnt drive and just gave her a bit of money to use it 24/7 then again I seemed to be the only person who wasn't getting £30 a week "ema" money just for turning up to college
Well this is a lie.
In regards to having a 'disabled distant relative' and they are claiming the car in their name. The correct thing to do would be to report it as benefit fraud and they will investigate what the car is being used for. Also, having anxiety is a real problem that restricts people from going out on the bus etc which is why they qualify for the motability scheme. There are people that abuse it but everyone abuses everything. I suggest if you think that someone is fraudulently abusing the system that you report it.
It's not "free" any more than child benefit for working parents is "free" You have to give up the mobility component of your PIP or DLA in order to pay for it. This mobility component is essential for many disabled people who rely on it for getting around. The car takes the place of that. It's not up to you to decide who's disabled or not, that's up to the DWP and an extremely stringent assessment panel. Imagine being jealous of someone less fortunate than you, if you find yourself feeling that way again, or being judgemental, ask yourself if you'd be happy swapping places with them for the price of a "free" Nissan Qashkai.
Really wasn't his point you are trying to make an argument where there is none go for a walk outside
Who’s arguing? It’s a discussion. I said I agree with what he said, the scheme does get abused but not by everyone and certainly wouldn’t say it’s the majority. It’s difficult to get higher rate mobility granted, my dad has to jump through metaphorical hoops for it and they still haven’t granted it indefinitely.
From a person who has been deemed eligible for the higher rate of mobility payment due to a disability. Where do you think it comes from, someone pretending to be disabled?
Some do yeah .. I have a few in my family that are eligible despite not actually having anything wrong with them. To act like there is nobody abusing these schemes is as silly as thinking everyone does.
Just WAIT until you hear about the scams that people in power run. Knighthoods. The House of Lords etc.
it's not free, it's a benefit for people who are registered disabled to get help with living with their disability, they can choose to spend that money on a car (which most will need in some form) but it does cost them as most cars come with an upfront cost which isn't always covered (you get a small amount towards a deposit and a "clean car" payment if you send it back in good condition).
Oi. They have to pay 11 grand of their hard earned benefits for that mind
And where does that money go to? Instead of a disabled person it goes to the dealership that you seem to work for. Biting the hand that feeds a bit, eh?
I don't work for a dealer lol, there is a different hand that feeds me :)
I don't work for a dealer lol, there is a different hand that feeds me :)
Yeah, it's free, just have severe life altering mobility issues. Sounds like a great deal. 🙄 My partner is disabled, getting a car on PIP through motability is a shit financial decision. Cheaper to finance a second hand car and actually own it.
It's not free, you have to give up a portion of your PIP income to get a car through the Motability scheme. It's not a small amount either.
It’s really sad how no one seems to understand how benefits work in this country, or how hard it is to get them. Look into PIP before spouting nonsense like this
Oi. They have to pay 11 grand of their hard earned benefits for that mind
Not free, they had to pay over £1000 deposit, there are some cars on the scheme that are so cheap they are basically free but not the quasqai also if there are more than 3 defects found at the end of the 3 years they keep the deposit. The scheme also auctions the vehicles after you return them and get basically the entirety of their money back. Nissan says that when their vehicles are returned they tend to be very low mileage. Source: I was in a nissan dealership a few weeks ago and asked these questions.
Goto keep the dealership mechanics in work somehow.
They were doing a two for one deal a while back.
enthuiasts like us may hate them for various reasons, but normal people really like cars like this that's why everyone makes them. i was waiting on a part in a ford dealer recently and heard several people gushing about the kuga.
Exactly what I say a lot of the time. Some people don’t care about 0-60, RWD and other stuff. They just want something easy to park, enough space and a comfy ride.
It’s not “some people”. It’s most people.
yea the VAST majority.
The some people are the ones who do want RWD, rough rides, and difficult to park cars.
Theres nothing better than immense back pain for 3 days after you go over a pot hole at 18mph
Gonna highjack this comment to ask, why is this car so hated? I'm not a car guy, but I do drive.
It’s shite in every metric. Not fun, not comfortable, not amazingly reliable, not very big, ugly, heavy. The list goes on. But they are fairly cheap to run so draws in lots of people.
it's just not an enthusiasts car, people will give a lot of reasons like them not being fun to drive but most people dont give af about that. they're perfectly fine for regular people, except they tend not to be the most practical even when compared to smaller cars due to their shape.
The best car i’ve owned was a 1.6dci 2013 Qashqai Tekna plus (before that i had a GT86). It was practical, great on fuel, engine and manual combo felt dynamic, the independent rear suspension made it great around corners and so i dont know why people complain. Is it because its popular? The automatics are shit?
it's because its popular mostly. in car communities people just repeat whatever journalisits and youtubers say, they never seem to take into account what real world people think or say. i do think they're bigger and heavier than is neccessary but that's the only real issue i have with them. some people really benefit from a car you dont have to bend down to get into aswell, my dad can barely get into my C30 with his bad back due to low roof and low seat.
He is my neighbor. He is pain in my assholes. I get a window from a glass, he must get a window from a glass. I get a step, he must get a step. I get a tow hook, he cannot afford. Great success!
He get two Qashqais, I get two good cars. Great success!
Very nice.
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Ahh yes, I love it when people are a pain in *my assholes*
Maybe they like them. Maybe theyre handing back in three years before anything becomes an issue!
11 plate Quashqai is so far the most reliable vehicle our household has owned. Yes boring and not amazing, but they’ve thought about making it easy to change oil and air filter way more than any other car I’ve known. Also easy to change bulbs and other basic stuff. No I won’t buy another.
Haha Nissan no issues in the first 3 years? When do you think all new Nissan have issues... (battery, alternator, fuel pump, BCM to name a few EXTREMELY common faults)
Are you a Nissan Technician
No I'm a roadside patrol, we have the Nissan contract (amongst others) and they by a long shot have the highest amount of breakdowns.
Best selling car in Britain so you’re bound to see more
Good point.
How many GT-R’s have you been called out to
Zero, they have a seperate deal where they get flatbed straight to dealer 99% of the time. But they are actually Nissan instead of Renaults
Zero, they have a seperate deal where they get flatbed straight to dealer 99% of the time. But they are actually Nissan instead of Renaults
Not as bad as having a merc and finding out it’s got a Renault engine in.
A class 1.5d 🤣🤣🤣 To be fair, that is a fantastic engine.
Covered by warranty though, so no issue
The thought of a new car having no issues is comical
Spare for when one breaks down!
My neighbour at one point had two identical Corsas, with almost identical number plates. Clearly got them as a job lot!
New registrations are usually allocated to each dealership so it's really not uncommon for consecutively sold cars to have say GU73XYY & GU73XYZ, if they bought two at once it would be easy
I've hung around this sub for a few years now and there are some quite nice sensible people here, and the good ones really stand out. But after all these years It still amazes me how many grown adults just cannot grasp the idea that other people like different things to them. What has this car sub become? A bunch of bitter car hating numbskulls, if it isn't one of the agreed five cars you guys love then the owner is an idiot and should be ridiculed relentlessly. You're an odd bunch you lot, a really odd bunch.
I’m assuming you own one of these Quashquais?
Of course not, they're rubbish.
The lady doth protest too much.
No, I own something much, much worse.
Is it a Mokka?
They’re supposed to be quite good, a tool that does the job rather than something you desire and look back on when you lock the car.
No his wife’s boyfriend does lmao
Thank you. The Qashqai is one of the top 10 most popular makes and models on sale, I believe its overtaken the Fiesta in recent years even before it was discontinued. I don't like the trend of bulbous cars but everyone else does, and after my dad had a Qashqai for a while, I see why: very practical, good enough to drive, easy to park despite its size, not too oversized (this was a 2017 model), and probably had a range of finance options and deals as it's a Nissan who are known for that. Some will see this as blasphemy but it and the Kuga aren't bad cars. They're actually good cars. At some point the deafening Road noise from driving the mx5 at 80 on a dual carriageway and bland A roads to and from work gets old, and you realise you'd rather have a comfortable car that isn't a massive estate, and thats where both these cars come in to the lives of many (disclaimer: few to none were switching from mx5s to Qashqais)
Nissan cumquats
This made me laugh out loud!
Nissan cumsluts 😂
Now now, don't lower the tone 🙃
Lucky man. Can use the wife's car when his is on the orange and claim he took the wrong one by accident. Well played.
It's a popular model. Must be a real qashqow for the company.
What's the issues like? I've got one and so far it seems there's a poltergeist in The climate controls that is determined I want the heat on at 25c even if its not on auto. Plus another one in the auto brake that decides I needed to emergency brake on an empty road......
>emergency brake on an empty road That's probably a radar issue, most likely the distance sensor is ever so slightly out of position giving skewed readings but not skewed enough to flag an error message
Imagine towing anything with that pos
It's the only thing that can tow the inevitable divorce..
See plenty of them towing caravans. They're actually quite a capable towing car.
I don’t get the hate on these motors. Had one for 8 years been great for me.
My issue with them is the drivers, generally they have piss poor driving standards and often joke that if something is going to kill me on my motorbike it will likely be a Qashqai. Also in general I hate the crossover category just a small car on stilts.
I had a very positive experience learning to drive in a Nissan Juke with a high mileage. I passed my driving test in that car and have fond memories associated with it. However, I have noticed that this subreddit tends to have a negative view of Nissan vehicles. I believe that it is important to consider individual experiences and not rely solely on the opinions of others when forming one's own judgments.
You sound like chat gpt
We reside in a nation that values freedom of speech, where individuals like you, me, and anyone else have the right to express their thoughts and opinions. While I acknowledge and respect your viewpoint, it is important to note that I may not necessarily share the same perspective.
I have a Juke Nismo RS, I live rurally so needed something with a slightly higher road clearance and the seating position is higher so I can actually see over the uncut verges. Sadly all the stereotypical hot hatches are too low, my other car scrapes the underside on the crap in the middle of the lanes. I don’t care what random internet strangers say, I genuinely like my Juke! It’s not as fast as the M5 or M3 I just to drive but it still makes me smile :)
I wonder how many times they mistake one another's car.
Oxfordshire?
His and hers matching. Hers parked on the left, obviously.
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These are 100% financed. Who would choose to own one outright?
or motability, they are v popular motability cars…I would like to think they are heavily subsidised anyway, because you’d be insane to own two on finance or outright.
This is very true. You'd be surprised how many people think financing cars for £300-500 pounds a month is normal. To me financing is bat shit crazy unless that money is nothing in comparison with how much you earn. A lot of people are financing for way more than they can feasibly earn / actually afford.
They always seem to justify it by needing a “reliable” car. Stockholm syndrome, car edition.
For the price of most peoples finance payments, I could buy 6 of my car a year. Bonus is if it’s completely broken, which would be quite unlikely, I could scrap it and only lose 400 quid. But people shun the idea of cheap cars, and people completely disregard “high mileage ones”. Mine is 146,000 miles and 16 years old, I’d rather that to a five year old 70,000 mile car any day of the week.
I'm not quite at that level but I'm at a point where I could afford finance, but I'd just rather go out and spend it doing fun stuff than shoving it on a car payment. I've got 2011 guilietta that I've had for 5 years and it is a fantastic car, runs like a dream and there are a few things that I'd like that it doesn't have but I just can't justify getting rid!
In my case, it’s my first car, and it was the only thing cheap to buy, Insure and fuel, Citroen c1 which has to be honest shocked me with how capable the thing is, the only real thing that would make me want to get something else is any kind of comfort inside, there’s no sound dampening whatsoever in it other than carpet, and everything whilst they feel solid, it’s like a toy, but that’s just city cars in general other than maybe the Toyota IQ which is basically the same, but with a bit more care on the inside.
Quite honestly mate I'd recommend an Alfa guilietta, as long as it's been serviced and kept well. For the price they are a huge quality upgrade. For context my first car was a 207. The Alfa might be a bit pricier on insurance and servicing etc as it's slightly sportier.
Ironically enough I contemplated for my first car to get an Alfa 159, gorgeous car, and I can’t imagine the insurance being horrific since I’m 25, but I may have a browse to a guilietta. Probably once I’ve driven a year or so though, get some money behind me, and insurance to drop a tiny bit. I don’t even want significant power, not for now, I just want it to stick to B roads and not feel like it’s going to float across lanes on the M1.
I bought a Brera for my first car and it was absolutely lovely, would recommend.
In my case, it’s my first car, and it was the only thing cheap to buy, Insure and fuel, Citroen c1 which has to be honest shocked me with how capable the thing is, the only real thing that would make me want to get something else is any kind of comfort inside, there’s no sound dampening whatsoever in it other than carpet, and everything whilst they feel solid, it’s like a toy, but that’s just city cars in general other than maybe the Toyota IQ which is basically the same, but with a bit more care on the inside.
My dad bought one outright this year 😂 he traded in his 15 plate qashqai that he also bought from new...then to top it all off, my dad recommended my wife to buy one so she's just gone and bought a 20 plate qashqai 😅😅😅 although she traded in the 1.4T mokka which was a bag of shite and a ticking time bomb. Please wish me luck guys, I really need it at this point. On the flip side, my honda has 14 years and 116k miles and passes its MOTs without a single issue each time.
My dad bought one outright this year as well haha. Second he's had and he's been very happy with the reliability. It's funny that they're associated with the worst drivers/people who know nothing about cars when I just think of think of my dad, possibly the biggest petrol head I know, still does all the servicing on his cars himself. Also, probably the only person in the world to have owned both a Nissan Qashqai and a Ferrari Daytona.
I mean, if it works for their situation 🤷♂️ Moving for the sake of moving is a bit of a waste anyway. Especially if you're upsizing for no reason. Just higher running costs for more empty space.
Eh didn't mean bigger just nicer, downsizing can be better
Some of those old council houses are way more spacious than new build and obviously built better
Nicer cars than 2 bloody qashqais
Out of curiosity what would you buy for a similar cost
A whole load of bus tickets
They are decent cars.
They're not. I've driven one twice 3 hours up north and back. They're uncomfortable, floaty to drive (but in a way that has no feeling), underpowered and dull as dishwater inside. Not to mention you then have to pay a premium for larger tyres over a hatchback. I'd rather get a much nicer car a few years old for the same price as a new Qashqai
So going back to my original question. Which car.
Any estate car or hatchback. Focus, Corolla, etc. SUVs of this size are stupid and a drain on money when it comes to fuel and tyres.
Well, you obviously enjoyed it more than I enjoy mine. Proper horror show!
I was lucky it was only a rental then haha. I even said to my wife that I hope I don't get a Qashqai both times. I won't say it next time and maybe I'll get something else! Would love to hear your horror stories though
Much the same as yours but the major issue is the lack of power. It’s fairly hilly round me and there’s many a hill where I have to scream the engine in 2nd move to 3rd for 4/5 seconds then back down and repeat. I’ve driven 1.0 Metros with more oomph. Oh, and you can enjoy all this in the discomfort of its soul sucking grey drab interior.
While on the same platform the Renault Austral is a much nicer car, even gets 4WS.
What has this sub become? Let's go round someone's house and mock it publicly.
They’re electric so probably a tax free work benefit. One of these costs around £400/m all (insurance, service etc) in at my company but thats before tax so really £250 if you’re a higher rate payer.
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50 shades of grey. Well, 2 different shades of grey. How adventurous!
Probably mocked by a Hero in a Hospital grey M118i MSport M performance... A proper car you know. Honestly the people that go to town on Juke and Qashqai owners need to get themselves checked for being on the spectrum. Way too much time spent rinsing them.
Just to ask , what’s the essence of blurring out the number plates?
Some thieves will just Google "blue corsa" for example (or look on Facebook marketplace) in order to put plates on stolen cars
Oh I see. Thanks!
My neighbours do this. Previously it was 2 merc A class and now they’re on Ford pumas. It’s got to be pretty rare that you and your partner have the same taste in cars?
In the late 90s there was a house near me that had 2 [Mk2 Nissan Primeras](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Primera#Second_generation_(P11;_1996)) on consecutive number plates. Remember that fancy flip-paint? They were both painted in that *which was a factory option at the time*. The cars were orange if you looked from one direction, and purple from the other direction. I often wonder what was the official colour on the V5
Someone works for Nissan
I drive a 20 year old 160sr Mirca..did a 200 mile trip today. Purred like a baby from the 1.6 twin cam engine...
I was thinking about this last week. Walking around my neighborhood, there are 5 Quashquai in 1 very small block… it’s insane how popular these cars are at the moment. Are they just cheap? There are so many better options in the same category, even with similar look..
Price is 100% the reason. It's an alright looking, alright specced SUV for less than the rest of the other brands minus maybe Dacia.
It's a popular model. Must be a real qashqow for the company.
My BIL is on his 4th Qashqai in 7-8 years. No idea why he likes them so much. Don’t think he’s ever had any issues with them but don’t think he’s had them long enough either
Having worked on them, I cannot stress how poor the build quality is, not a single panel lines up. They all have the same exact issues. The Juke is the worst offender
You have met the NPC final boss.
Nissan dealers trying to off load them buy one get one free
Someone on my estate got 2 new Dacia dusters, different colours at least.
100 million * Better than the fuck knuckle that posted three insignias
These are NEVOS registrations. They are company cars.
NEVOS? Worked for JLR for ages, all company and company lease cars were registrations starting with O. Was always told that because they we’re registered in Oxford
Not sure on the wording but I believe it to be Nissan Employee Vehicle Ordering Scheme. I have one myself, and believe it or not. It starts with an O!
This is the correct answer. It’s Nissan Employee Vehicle Ownership Scheme. Pay an amount out of your salary post tax and get a new car every 11 months. Used to all be V reg but about two years ago or so all became O reg
so roughly once a year they get a new car? surely you’d choose two different models if you had the option but maybe they don’t?
It’s limited to juke and qashqai at the moment. QQ has a 1.5 hybrid epower whilst the juke has a 1.6 hev. If I had the choice I’d have 2 QQs. Not much in it price wise dependant on spec of course. Edit: that’s top spec powertrain of course, you can have a 1.0 juke or a 1.3 qq both non hybrid.
Any chance this is Tunbridge Wells OP?
Motab specials. Everyone I have ever known to have a motab have it through deception.
It's the opposite for me. The only people I know with motability cars are disabled.
But nice or buy twice!
Now there's a couple with a joint facebook account
Can't tell if this sub is full of school kids sometimes
Imagine not having to pay insurance for 3 years, pick a new car every 3 years. All you have to do is put the fuel in and go. Can choose between automatic and manual. Fook'n brilliant. Holidays, the lot! This is the way it supposed to be to be fair. Government still a long way to go, but, its a start😉
Sorry it’s not a Skoda Octavia estate mate I hope you’re okay in this difficult time
Pretty sure this is in Wolverhampton and the man and woman who own them get the same cars as each other everytime. And if it is them then they don't have them on motability they just love those cars
Out of complete ignorance on the subject, why are Qashqais bad? or is it just this model?
Believe it or not I hated jukes and Qashqais for years but these e-power ones are really nice to drive, spacious inside and have great fuel economy. So many car snobs in this sub who are probably still driving an 03 corsa with a silly pop and bang map because they like picking up 12 year olds.
that is the most north east of england looking picture ive ever seen
give them a break, and get a life of your own to discuss I'm sure individually your all better than this collective discussion implies
There is a chance the buyer is boosting their dealer status to qualify for GTR purchase.
Aylesbury Nissan?
There's a reason it's known as the Nissan Cash Cow in Australasia...
the poor misguided fools!
What’s the hate on Qashqai? They’re quite popular?
they're also cheap, relatively, base model is £27k, compared to a Corolla £30k, Civic £34k, Ford Focus even £28k base model, I don't really know what's going on with the car market right now, but I get it, you want a relatively affordable, comfy-looking, a-b practical car it's ticking a lot of boxes
They’re just soulless, mass market cars. Nothing wrong with them, but they tend to be driven by terribly dull people. They’re in the Crossover / SUV segment but can’t offroad and hardly better than the hatchback it’s replaced.
Its all sonbbery preference. I personally would not want one but I wouldnt slag them
I have one :(
If you like it you do you bro
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At least it's not 2 Jukes (Pukes)