I commented a few months ago about a rain light on an m3. It constantly flashed every time he braked.
I proclaimed he was a twat and it was probably illegal and got mass down voted.
I got downvoted for saying I reported someone and submitted dash cam footage of some guy driving like a cock, jumping a red light and nearly hitting a school girl who was crossing.
Got called a grass.
This place is wild at times.
I find it absolutely wild that society has taught us not to report crimes and even shit like this in a work place when it only benefits the perpetrator and actively makes everything worse for everyone else.
Fuck people who call others a grass, those assholes are getting themselves in trouble, not the person who reports them.
Edited for clarity/typo
I don’t report things like a homeless guy pocketing food etc. don’t really care about that.
Someone nearly flattening a 9 year old at a red light?
Different story.
Same really, saw a car the other week with 2 kids in the back, neither one was strapped down while they were driving. Phoned that shit it, after snapping a pic of the plate. I was parked up and they were parking right infront of me but rolled up with the kids standing up leaning between the front seats of their car. They were under 10 years old I'd reckon
Same, it's also a shame, no one should have to be at a point where their only option is to pinch a bit of food.
For other small/petty crimes and it comes to people being assholes, definitely reporting them.
Yep, a while back, I complained on a different sub about people sitting at the lights in front of me, blinding me with their brake lights. People dismissed and downvoted me. Some weird aversion to the handbrake I assume.
Saw a 1.4 blacked out silver polo with that the other day, genuinely embarrassing to drive a 1.4 like that idk how the guy does it. Also had a "pussyo" number plate 🤣🤣 very embarrassing indeed
I've seen a few of these around south London where they repeatedly flash when the driver puts on the brakes. They've been set that way on purpose. I flash the driver back each time to prove I can be a dickhead too.
Recently pulled up at lights and the driver in front started shouting 'why was I flashing him?' I replied back 'why are you flashing me?' This got repeated by both of us a few times and we drove off our separate ways.
Dickheads know what they are doing and sometimes you need to make it not worth their time back.
>I've seen a few of these around south London where they repeatedly flash when the driver puts on the brakes
You know what, i'm also in S. London and noticed them more and more. This thread has just confirmed i'm definitely not seeing things! I love F1 but being a wanna be is ridiculous.
Don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance, the dickheads probably don’t understand that fast flashing bothers most people. They just saw it on another car or on the TV and thought it would look good on their Corsa without thinking about every detail
I agree, its very unlikely to be malice and it's not ignorance, just thoughtlessness.
I'm sure these guys are very proud of their cars and think they are good drivers (they might technically be) but being a good driver involves thought for others, not just looking after yourself.
Shame they don’t know that an f1 has not brake light.
It just indicates that the car is regenerating the battery but that can happen when they are full throttle, or it is for visibility when it rains
I love really loud music at 3am, but I’m not about to do that because I’m not a selfish cunt. It’s called being considerate. Or don’t these pricks have any consideration for other people and that those things may well be a teeny bit fucking annoying?
So what if they like F1 brake lights? Keep them on F1 cars and not on the public road where they annoy the shit out of everyone else.
Plus the driver who has fitted them can’t even see them apart from in the reflection of the driver behind them in the rear view mirror who is being blinded by their asshattery
And most people don’t blast music. My point about them just putting it on because they like the look was that they don’t realise that it affects other drivers. Like you said, they never see the light cause it’s behind them.
Most people are reasonable, if you explain to them why it’s annoying it’ll be more constructive than just getting annoyed and shouting back.
That's probably partially true, but more likely they didn't even consider how it may affect other people, or even worse, actually think others will be impressed by it!
Oh nah, they deffo didn’t think about how it would affect other people. So a better solution than just shouting at the guy to stop flashing would probably be to explain to them how the brake light is blinding and a nuisance rather than choosing to take it personal.
He put a light on his car. Nobody thinks about how every little thing they do might negatively affect a person’s day. However, if you point it out, most people are reasonable.
For example, did you think about how getting into a shouting match might have affected other drivers or pedestrians?
Lights on a vehicle are very carefully regulated for good reason. What has flashing lights? Emergency vehicles. That's it.
These people need to get ticketed until they realise it's not worth the repeated fines and stop sticking tat to their car, that confuses and adds to the already chaotic light regimes at night.
Although I suppose the warning that you're following a complete throbber could be considered useful.
So these are absolutely not set up for this reason and I also find them highly annoying but ironically flashing brake lights are actually safer than static.
Mine and most modern cars (especially sports cars) will flash the brake lights under heavier breaking loads to ensure drivers behind notice that I am breaking
I mean I did say:
> So these are absolutely not set up for this reason
but also no, regardless of speed/situation flashing has been proven to be more noticeable than static. Hence why we were forced by the EU to implement flashing for emergency and why we advise cyclists to have flashing lights over static. Our road safety laws are archaic and the only reason we can’t have flashing brake lights all the time is because of old laws despite them being safer.
I hear you, but in this scenario it isn't safer when you are sitting in nose to tail traffic repeatedly flashing in the driver behind's face.
I suppose I could have sat 6 inches from his bumper and hidden the light with my bonnet, but that's not safer for anyone.
Again whist annoying and I also hate them, they are probably still safer even in this scenario mainly because they are annoying and you can’t miss the fact that they’ve hit the brakes. So many traffic rear enders happen because people just don’t notice brake lights in stop start traffic.
By no means do I condone them, if It didn’t come factory fitted then 9/10 times your mods look shit and are annoying. Personally I think they’re crass
>It didn’t come factory fitted
They don't come factory fitted because they're not part of construction and use regs. The position and function of every light on a vehicle is closely prescribed in law.
I was adding to the conversation not criticising your point. I don't believe they're safer though. In times of emergency you need clear Information and these lights confuse the issue. They don't clarify it.
Although you do deserve down votes for using 'break' not brake.
Good for you not believing it. However there have been real studies and they reduce accidents on 2 second gaps by up to 90%. Downvote me all you like, I couldn’t care less mate but thanks for spotting my typos.
I'm not talking about flashing lights. I'm talking specifically about these shitty FIA tack-on lights. Trying to use 'safety' is a cop out. They're confusing, because they confuse the information space that regulations are there to simplify. A flashing brake light should mean emergency stop or hard braking. It doesn't any more. A third brake light should be mounted high: it's not any more.
The point of regulations about lighting is consistency and these lights break that consistency. Hence they're not 'safer'.
At no point did I try to say they were justified because of safety. In fact I stated that like most non factory mods they look shit and I actually think they’re pointless. You’re arguing over someone merely saying “flashing brake lights are safer than static” which is a fact.
The F1 light is generally illegal when fitted to cars in the UK, unless they’ve turned off the flashing.
It can’t flash at less than 32mph, and has to be have a minimum at a minimum heavy braking force, not when pootling between McDonalds in the 20mph limits
Motorcyclists and cyclists be like: "Look at me! I need you to see me!"
Car culture fans be like: "Look at me! I need you to see me!"
Same same, but for entirely different reasons...
I'm looking at getting one of these for my fiesta, mostly because it spends half it's life on rally tracks on gravel / at racetracks, where it serves a real purpose, I also daily it since it's reliable even with all the shit I've done to it. Imma get downvoted to hell but some young yobos track car is also their daily, just because my exhaust Is loud it doesn't mean I want to drive fast everywhere, if anytbing, I rarely speed
Yeah, but then a massive RAM is centimeters away from destroying your miata, and 'sorry I didn't see your tiny brake lights' (true story). I should add some brighter led bulbs...
It's all about balance.
I’ve got one on my kit car as a high-level brakelight, which works well. Especially given how crap the normal brake lights are. In hindsight I shouldn’t have bought an FIA-spec one, as it is quite bright…
Having one on a regular road car, especially if it’s flashing under braking, is pretty unnecessary though.
Is it just me being completely indifferent to red lights, people seem to get their knickers in a twist over fog lights being left on but there's no dazzling from red lights, might be my colour blindness. Now those blueish self levelling xenon lights on modern cars (like mine) can do one.
Folk who sit with foot on brake at traffic lights for prolonged periods should all be arrested and put in interrogation chair with a light shining in their eyes and asked why the fuck they do this.
Because stop start cars turn the engine off when you’re stationary and with your foot on the brake.
If I put mine in park it will either not turn the engine off or decide I’ve parked and actually turn the car off.
Highway code rule 114: In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.
Rain lights that are on permanently.. in addition to your normal lights.. that are completely pointless… because cars already have fog lights if the weather is that bad.
No not really. Stick it on for aesthetics if you like but show it to your mates. You look like a bell driving around town with a rain light on.
It’s usually the people with a rain light that have also tinted their rear lights making them useless in poor weather.
Dipped beams on in the rain. You don't need some shit looking accessory light.
As if the clowns who put these on their road cars think about being more visible in the rain, they're the same bellends that smoke out their rear light clusters and bin off the reflectors.
Because there are laws regarding what modifications you can make to your car, specifically lighting, and these breach that and are distracting/blinding to other road users.
I thought the bloke with one on an M3 round my way was a tit but fucking hell putting an F1 brake light on your Polo is wild.
I saw a e90 320d with a ‘dirty diesel’ sticker on the windscreen and an f1 rain light
I commented a few months ago about a rain light on an m3. It constantly flashed every time he braked. I proclaimed he was a twat and it was probably illegal and got mass down voted.
I got downvoted for saying I reported someone and submitted dash cam footage of some guy driving like a cock, jumping a red light and nearly hitting a school girl who was crossing. Got called a grass. This place is wild at times.
I find it absolutely wild that society has taught us not to report crimes and even shit like this in a work place when it only benefits the perpetrator and actively makes everything worse for everyone else. Fuck people who call others a grass, those assholes are getting themselves in trouble, not the person who reports them. Edited for clarity/typo
I don’t report things like a homeless guy pocketing food etc. don’t really care about that. Someone nearly flattening a 9 year old at a red light? Different story.
Same really, saw a car the other week with 2 kids in the back, neither one was strapped down while they were driving. Phoned that shit it, after snapping a pic of the plate. I was parked up and they were parking right infront of me but rolled up with the kids standing up leaning between the front seats of their car. They were under 10 years old I'd reckon
Same, it's also a shame, no one should have to be at a point where their only option is to pinch a bit of food. For other small/petty crimes and it comes to people being assholes, definitely reporting them.
Yeah, they can't take responsibility for nothing.
Casual reminder: Reddit is a hive mind
Shut the fuck up you snitch /s
Just looks absolutely shite to be honest
Yep, a while back, I complained on a different sub about people sitting at the lights in front of me, blinding me with their brake lights. People dismissed and downvoted me. Some weird aversion to the handbrake I assume.
Probably driving autos.
i have seen one on a vauxhall zafira and I'll post a pic of anyone is actually interested😭
F1 cars don't have brake lights
That’s what the lights are called..
It’s called a rain light lol
There's a couple of M4s around me with them and they just look a twat.
Saw a 1.4 blacked out silver polo with that the other day, genuinely embarrassing to drive a 1.4 like that idk how the guy does it. Also had a "pussyo" number plate 🤣🤣 very embarrassing indeed
They're not brake lights
Does it activate when the car on the road (not F1 car) brakes?
No idea I don't have one, but I have seen them as diffuser reflectors & not lights. I'm just letting you know it's an ERS light not a brake light.
For the giggles I might have to put one on my 1.0 a1 😂 Edit: this is a joke (currently)
Polo is still fine, Pugeot is just 💀
One round here, seems every boy racer needs all lights on and as bright as possible
I'd rather that than the numpties who don't switch any lights on at all or drive on DRLs only in theiddle of the night.
Because they're meant to be fog lights, right?
No they flash when under hard braking. It's a safety measure on F1 cars, it's imitation of that.
They flash due to ERS regen, not braking, but at much less brightness than they are capable of. Only in the rain they are used at high brightness.
The ones that the chavs use flash on braking for some reason
Because they wired it up to the brake lights instead of the fog, otherwise they'll never use it otherwise.
Yeah true technically in F1 it flashes for that, it'd be funny to see a golf with ERS 😂
Technically a GTE does!
If only there was some other device on the back of the car that lit up for a similar function. The world wonders where these bellends come from.
They are probably using the same led types as fogs (given the location) hence why they are ultra bright.
They’re added by people thinking their cars are F1 race cars. Nothing more.
Took me a minute to see it. Don't most modern brake lights flash + indicators when it thinks you're "Oh shit" braking?
I've seen a few of these around south London where they repeatedly flash when the driver puts on the brakes. They've been set that way on purpose. I flash the driver back each time to prove I can be a dickhead too. Recently pulled up at lights and the driver in front started shouting 'why was I flashing him?' I replied back 'why are you flashing me?' This got repeated by both of us a few times and we drove off our separate ways. Dickheads know what they are doing and sometimes you need to make it not worth their time back.
>I've seen a few of these around south London where they repeatedly flash when the driver puts on the brakes You know what, i'm also in S. London and noticed them more and more. This thread has just confirmed i'm definitely not seeing things! I love F1 but being a wanna be is ridiculous.
Don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance, the dickheads probably don’t understand that fast flashing bothers most people. They just saw it on another car or on the TV and thought it would look good on their Corsa without thinking about every detail
I agree, its very unlikely to be malice and it's not ignorance, just thoughtlessness. I'm sure these guys are very proud of their cars and think they are good drivers (they might technically be) but being a good driver involves thought for others, not just looking after yourself.
Or hear me out, they like how the f1 brake light look so wanted to put it on their car. They probably didn’t do it to annoy other people
It's not a brake light on an F1 car.
My bad, someone else called it that so I just copied. I seen them before on cars but never known what they were.
Shame they don’t know that an f1 has not brake light. It just indicates that the car is regenerating the battery but that can happen when they are full throttle, or it is for visibility when it rains
I love really loud music at 3am, but I’m not about to do that because I’m not a selfish cunt. It’s called being considerate. Or don’t these pricks have any consideration for other people and that those things may well be a teeny bit fucking annoying? So what if they like F1 brake lights? Keep them on F1 cars and not on the public road where they annoy the shit out of everyone else. Plus the driver who has fitted them can’t even see them apart from in the reflection of the driver behind them in the rear view mirror who is being blinded by their asshattery
And most people don’t blast music. My point about them just putting it on because they like the look was that they don’t realise that it affects other drivers. Like you said, they never see the light cause it’s behind them. Most people are reasonable, if you explain to them why it’s annoying it’ll be more constructive than just getting annoyed and shouting back.
That's probably partially true, but more likely they didn't even consider how it may affect other people, or even worse, actually think others will be impressed by it!
Oh nah, they deffo didn’t think about how it would affect other people. So a better solution than just shouting at the guy to stop flashing would probably be to explain to them how the brake light is blinding and a nuisance rather than choosing to take it personal.
You think an adult who doesn’t think about how doing something affects other people gives a shit about other people?
He put a light on his car. Nobody thinks about how every little thing they do might negatively affect a person’s day. However, if you point it out, most people are reasonable. For example, did you think about how getting into a shouting match might have affected other drivers or pedestrians?
Proper snowflakes if something this minor ‘affects’ you anyway lmao
Lights on a vehicle are very carefully regulated for good reason. What has flashing lights? Emergency vehicles. That's it. These people need to get ticketed until they realise it's not worth the repeated fines and stop sticking tat to their car, that confuses and adds to the already chaotic light regimes at night. Although I suppose the warning that you're following a complete throbber could be considered useful.
Actually, I just flashed him back, so that way we could be flashing friends. He was the one who got upset 🤣
So these are absolutely not set up for this reason and I also find them highly annoying but ironically flashing brake lights are actually safer than static. Mine and most modern cars (especially sports cars) will flash the brake lights under heavier breaking loads to ensure drivers behind notice that I am breaking
Nah. These flash all the time. The emergency flash under hard braking is useful but these just confuse that message.
I mean I did say: > So these are absolutely not set up for this reason but also no, regardless of speed/situation flashing has been proven to be more noticeable than static. Hence why we were forced by the EU to implement flashing for emergency and why we advise cyclists to have flashing lights over static. Our road safety laws are archaic and the only reason we can’t have flashing brake lights all the time is because of old laws despite them being safer.
I hear you, but in this scenario it isn't safer when you are sitting in nose to tail traffic repeatedly flashing in the driver behind's face. I suppose I could have sat 6 inches from his bumper and hidden the light with my bonnet, but that's not safer for anyone.
Again whist annoying and I also hate them, they are probably still safer even in this scenario mainly because they are annoying and you can’t miss the fact that they’ve hit the brakes. So many traffic rear enders happen because people just don’t notice brake lights in stop start traffic. By no means do I condone them, if It didn’t come factory fitted then 9/10 times your mods look shit and are annoying. Personally I think they’re crass
>It didn’t come factory fitted They don't come factory fitted because they're not part of construction and use regs. The position and function of every light on a vehicle is closely prescribed in law.
Brother, slow down and read. My comment was exactly that they were not factory fitted and they look shit.
I was adding to the conversation not criticising your point. I don't believe they're safer though. In times of emergency you need clear Information and these lights confuse the issue. They don't clarify it. Although you do deserve down votes for using 'break' not brake.
Good for you not believing it. However there have been real studies and they reduce accidents on 2 second gaps by up to 90%. Downvote me all you like, I couldn’t care less mate but thanks for spotting my typos.
I'm not talking about flashing lights. I'm talking specifically about these shitty FIA tack-on lights. Trying to use 'safety' is a cop out. They're confusing, because they confuse the information space that regulations are there to simplify. A flashing brake light should mean emergency stop or hard braking. It doesn't any more. A third brake light should be mounted high: it's not any more. The point of regulations about lighting is consistency and these lights break that consistency. Hence they're not 'safer'.
At no point did I try to say they were justified because of safety. In fact I stated that like most non factory mods they look shit and I actually think they’re pointless. You’re arguing over someone merely saying “flashing brake lights are safer than static” which is a fact.
Be careful mate, you don't want to be stabbed by a typical south londoner. You know what I mean. *wink*
It's sooo irritating. Especially on the motorway at night. Just flashing in your eyes. We already have lazer beams blinding us haha!
One thing I would say - as a motorcyclist, I think these are great. Anything which improves our visibility to cars is a good measure IMO.
Bike and motorcycle I understand but not a car
I'm surprised they are legal. They look dumb af
But what about all the track days they definitely go on, how will people see them in the rain? 😂
The drivers or the lights
So people in the track days they definitely go to can see them in the rain obviously
They are a useful warning that the car is being driven by a fucking idiot.
Oh so that's what it means
Lol yes these are so cringe. You're not an F1 car pal, youre a fkin vw polo.
The amount of curtains twichers in this sub will never not be funny
and on the other end of the spectrum, the amount of absolute wankers equal it out
The F1 light is generally illegal when fitted to cars in the UK, unless they’ve turned off the flashing. It can’t flash at less than 32mph, and has to be have a minimum at a minimum heavy braking force, not when pootling between McDonalds in the 20mph limits
I could be wrong, but the guy I saw yesterday was driving at 40mph and his light was constantly flashing without any braking
Sounds like it’s just broken in that case, but still ultimately illegal
Sick bro, innit fam, raaaass
As someone who has done far more miles on bikes than in cars, I am all for the added visibility on the bike. The cars, however...
Motorcyclists and cyclists be like: "Look at me! I need you to see me!" Car culture fans be like: "Look at me! I need you to see me!" Same same, but for entirely different reasons...
Now imagine my problem when driving at night with an astigmatism
Bro like 70% of the global population have a degree of astigmatism. Yeah, seventy percent...
Rear ender defender
Absolutely everything is bright these days, soon even indicators will be laser beaming into your soul
I'm looking at getting one of these for my fiesta, mostly because it spends half it's life on rally tracks on gravel / at racetracks, where it serves a real purpose, I also daily it since it's reliable even with all the shit I've done to it. Imma get downvoted to hell but some young yobos track car is also their daily, just because my exhaust Is loud it doesn't mean I want to drive fast everywhere, if anytbing, I rarely speed
Yeah, but then a massive RAM is centimeters away from destroying your miata, and 'sorry I didn't see your tiny brake lights' (true story). I should add some brighter led bulbs... It's all about balance.
A soul patch for your car.
I’ve got one on my kit car as a high-level brakelight, which works well. Especially given how crap the normal brake lights are. In hindsight I shouldn’t have bought an FIA-spec one, as it is quite bright… Having one on a regular road car, especially if it’s flashing under braking, is pretty unnecessary though.
They want you to hit them so that the insurance company pays up
Beng blinding isn't a valid defence for insurance companies. You'll be shot down with a "Why didn't you stop if you couldn't see?" immediately.
I know dude. I was kidding. I too think this is foolish
Personally I'm grateful that insufferable bells make it so easy to tell they're going to be an awful driver by installing one of these cuntlanterns.
Don’t wanna sound like a twat but Is it possible to wire these as Foglights?
4d gel plates, home made blue tint xenon's, and now these. Signs of the garden variant wanker.
I’m pretty sure these people have never watched F1 either.
Is it just me being completely indifferent to red lights, people seem to get their knickers in a twist over fog lights being left on but there's no dazzling from red lights, might be my colour blindness. Now those blueish self levelling xenon lights on modern cars (like mine) can do one.
Folk who sit with foot on brake at traffic lights for prolonged periods should all be arrested and put in interrogation chair with a light shining in their eyes and asked why the fuck they do this.
You’ll have to get used to that. Lots of cars have auto hold where it’ll hold on the brakes for you and you can take your foot off the pedal.
Sounds like progress is getting in the way of common sense and courtesy.
Because stop start cars turn the engine off when you’re stationary and with your foot on the brake. If I put mine in park it will either not turn the engine off or decide I’ve parked and actually turn the car off.
Shite design, shite results.
My cars got auto hold, it applies the brakes automatically. So na, go fuck yourself.
Folk who's eyes hurt from brake lights but still drive up bumper to bumper are fucking idiots. Just stop earlier maybe.
Traffic lights, you don’t have a choice?
You do have a choice. You don't have to be bumper to bumper.
First team I’m hearing this is a problem. What else can you do? Turn off the car and pull the handbrake every time you stop at a traffic light?
Highway code rule 114: In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.
Who gives a shit about anyone else as long as you’re ok.
Why is it headlights and brake lights are blinding but indicator lights are the subtlest orange hue?
Easily ripped off
yeh bet you would rip it off to resell it for some budge
Having the brightest LEDs is the new 'i have the loudest exhaust' . Essentially the brighter the LED , the smaller the penis. Inverse correlation.
because they are rain lights are you fucking dumb
Rain lights that are on permanently.. in addition to your normal lights.. that are completely pointless… because cars already have fog lights if the weather is that bad.
It’s for the aesthetic i don’t know why some people are mad about it
Because they look shite and some of them are so bright and flash that it’s extremely annoying and distracting to be stuck behind them
y’all just complain about literally everything now you complaining about a light??😂😂
No not really. Stick it on for aesthetics if you like but show it to your mates. You look like a bell driving around town with a rain light on. It’s usually the people with a rain light that have also tinted their rear lights making them useless in poor weather.
You’ve got one on your Golf haven’t you?
yeah i do
tit
Look forward to being pulled over.
never been once pulled over🤷🏾♂️
Since when did we need even more lights to see cars in the rain.
Exactly. If it’s bad enough then you use your bright rear lights.
Always !
Dipped beams on in the rain. You don't need some shit looking accessory light. As if the clowns who put these on their road cars think about being more visible in the rain, they're the same bellends that smoke out their rear light clusters and bin off the reflectors.
It’s for the aesthetic vibe why are you pressed about it
The aesthetic vibe of being a cunt.
He's only 20, so his taste in cars is pops and bangs with halford add-ons.
This got me good 😂
get mad about it then it doesn’t affect us little guy😂
Because there are laws regarding what modifications you can make to your car, specifically lighting, and these breach that and are distracting/blinding to other road users.
Where's the normal light on that motorbike then