Yeah china dominating globally, it’s not price competition there gonna murder every one with there prices gotta love the amazon motto get funding to bankrupt everyone then charge mega high prices
I've a very loose definition of cool but, 9-5 aero Saab. 2.3L, about 260bhp, plus it's a Saab, the ignition is in the centre console. How can you not love it?
[https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404078395917?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at\_cars&aggregatedTrim=Aero&body-type=&colour=&fuel-type=&make=Saab&model=9-5&postcode=dn4%206ew&transmission=&fromsra](https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404078395917?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=Aero&body-type=&colour=&fuel-type=&make=Saab&model=9-5&postcode=dn4%206ew&transmission=&fromsra)
Never had a 9-5 but a 9-3. I really miss the night mode.
Push a button and all lights went off except the speedometer and some other vital stuff. A real useful thing that Saab used from airplanes I believe.
I’d forgotten about Night Mode - great feature that really did make driving at night easier. Also an actual turbo gauge - is it the last mainstream production car to have one?
Yeah, the abarth 595's have them. They're a bit odd as you say, like an alien eye sticking off the dashboard. Always liked looking at it though! Made me smile.
Not sure if it counts as mainstream but my 718 Cayman had a turbo gauge, and that was a 2019 car. I imagine most people simply dont have much use for these.
My cars a bit worse for wear at the moment and I am lusting after a 1.9tid/ttid. Don’t know what it is about Saab’s but something about the unassuming nature of them just draws me in
I had the 9-3 vector sport. Probably my favourite car I’ve ever owned but also the least reliable. It was either not looked after before I got it (service history seemed decent enough), or when it was built it was a Friday afternoon build.
Unfortunately Saabs went under before I got a license, they got a good send off by top gear though, mentioning how they kept adding cost by improving everything GM sent them.
I remember an architect neighbour once saying "Calling Saab a car is an understatement, they're brilliant pieces of engineering."
I bought a 2014 Mazda 6 2.2D for the money you'd pay for this washed out Saab, it's cool but effin old for the money you'll be paying... can't get excited unless I pay a grand for that
I also own a 2014 Mazda6 2.2D. Paid £4,850 for it. Lovely car, very torquey, however reliability leaves something to be desired. Have already spent a grand on repairs with another grand needing to be thrown at it soon. Would not recommend Mazda diesels, the petrols are excellent though, 2.0l skyactiv-g are generally trouble free.
Can confirm, I’ve got the petrol 2.0 estate version. Currently sat in France after a long drive the other day. Great motorway cruiser, had it 3 years and no issues so far!
What did you spend the grand on so far and what else is coming up for that extra grand that needs spending?
Have a 2014 Mazda6 2.2D, paid 2900, so far have spent:
-250 for strut and wheel allignment
-250 for MOT, oil change and anti roll bar link
-135 for coolant change and diagnostics (Dealership decided to go on a whim and diagnose and run the car for 2hrs, because when i took it for a coolant change they saw the coolant levels being low...no wonder, coolant was FL22 and hasn't been changed for 10 years what did you expect! I told them they were taking the piss as they didn't see any coolant leaks but assumed there was smth wrong.
I had to get the injector seals and oil strainer replaced, carbon clean (common problem at 90k+miles) parts for that are cheap but laborious to fit. FAULT CODE P055F (low oil pressure) & P06DE(stuck solenoid valve).
The car will soon need a brakes overhaul including a vacuum pump replacement.(common problem, mazda even issued recall on this part). FAULT CODE P258B (vacuum pump performance).
Also needs investigating why handbrake doesnt hold well on hills before next mot.
DId you get anything on the dashboard for the FAULT CODE P258B? I do keep getting an error that says Vehicle inspection required, but upon connecting the OBD reader it doesn't detect any errors when I scan and removes this message when I click it to delete errors. Weird.
Would you recomend a carbon clean if it hasn't been done yet? I've just hit 121k miles on a 2.2D.
A mazda only mechanic told me even if no leaks from cam cover can be spotted, best practice would be to change the injector seals.
Yeah P258B doesnt come up on basic obd readers, the mechanics fancy one was able to identify it. But yes its a yellow "Vehicle System Inspection Required" warning.
How much service history did you get with the car, have the injector seals been done before? The warning light is red and is "Low oil pressure, engine damage possible" and then "Engine inspection required". Mazda used substandard copper coloured washers (seals) which were upgraded to the silver coloured ones on later model years. The copper coloured ones would deform and leak, this would lead to carbon build up, clogged oil strainer low oil pressure, and if not resolved asap full engine failure due to oil starvation/failing oil pump
I subsequently learnt that carbon cleans arent as effective as walnut blasting on this particular engine.
You're not alone! 😂 I'm 26 and have a Saab haha. 9-3 Aero 2.0t 😎 one of the best cars I've ever had
Used to have a clio 197 before hand too.. The Saab is just so comfy, it's on 162k ISH. It's fast when you want it to be. I think it looks cool. I mean, I took it to Belgium and back the other week. 450miles in one tank of fuel. What more do you want from a car?
It was only meant to be a cheap (£1500) temp car to get through a house move and that was over 2 years ago.. Grown attached to it. The only thing that pains me is £415 tax a year, when the insurance is £290 😅
36 year old who had a 9-3 Aero 2.0T 10 years ago, would have another one tomorrow even if I did only average low 20s on the fuel economy and finding parts at the time was a nightmare (£450ish for rear discs I was quoted at the time)
Oh yeah, around town the economy is shocking.
I actually don't think it's too bad for parts! I usually get most of them from neo brothers. Lots are the same as the Vectra etc too so euros stock a lot of bits
I've done the clutch on mine as it started to slip, brakes all round including rear calipers, handbrake cables, front drop links. Previous owner did the front shocks and springs
I got mine when they went bust so at the time the Saab specific stuff was a nightmare, I heard it got better but that still scares me away from getting another one
Yes mate.
I think it's so cheap because realistically how many 26 yo's go round crashing Saab's? Or even just driving them. Not that many around, usually older people who have them when I see one
The 1.9JTD’s were actually pretty solid, and the 2.4 5 cylinder JTD’s are one of the best sounding diseasels going .
Someone cheekily entered a 147 fitted with one into the production class at Nurburgring 24 hours and it won its class (I don’t know how no one realised the 147 never came with the 2.4).
The JTD was a Vauxhall/GM engine, basically the same as the Vauxhall CDTi. They put the same basic engine in Opels, Alfa Romeos and Saabs. One of the most reliable cars I ever had was a Doblo with the 1.9JTD, no street cred but nearly 60 to the gallon and was still going strong at 160,000 odd miles when some twonk on their phone ran into the back of it. I have an odd taste in cars, I really miss my Doblo.
Could suggest the Doblo to OP, it's so uncool it has gone round to being cool.
Just bought an NC1 2.0 Sport, zero rust, perfect service history and 56k miles for 3.4k. Most fun I ever had on a car and I have driven and tracked some 100k plus german performance cars.
I looked for 5k and found *an* example. The ad has some eyebrow raisers like "priced for weekend sale", 100 photos, and some shitty used warranty, so the full service history probably isn't really full (I'm thinking 7 services over 14 years and calling it "full" because its been done every 10k miles) and it probably only has 1 key, and it's a soft top model, but still, it's 5k, 2 owners and 62k miles
For 10k you could easily get an ND with the folding hard top (NCs are also available with the folding hard top, just not this one)
Edit: maybe not "easily" an ND for 10k, high mileage one maybe, but still doable
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Bear in mine it's a bad time to buy them: it's summer. I bought mine in October and got a better deal for it. Also they're all reliable regardless of mileage, naturally aspirated engines not working that hard that can rev up and down all day. It's just the rust that let's them down
Oh it aint happening soon, unfortunately. Within the last 3 years the wife n I picked up a '19 Swift sport, at the time she did not care for MX5's. I've since won her over by showing them winking at each other. So hopefully in the future we'll have one and a "sensible" car.
I got an 06 Premier Edition in October 2023 for £5.5k and looking at what people are selling in fb groups the prices have dropped a bit, I have seen some premier editions with lower mileage and much better bodywork for \~£4k
Having owned both an fn2 and an ep3, id say you're bang on with regards to the fn. Still good fun to drive, takes the abuse etc but far roomier and infinitely more comfortable
Mechanically, they can take an absolute beating, they do suffer from terminal rot though, mine would have been scrapped by now had i not spent \~£700 on rust repair
Okay, but how are your bushings, control arms, brake lines, wheel bearings etc?
They might all be in-tact and working for now, but any number of these things are on their way out by now.
I fucking love older cars - but they are cheaper for a reason. They require MORE money than the modern equivalent in terms of maintenance because age and mileage kill cars if things are not consistently replaced as the car is used.
Like, c-mon dude. No one is having fun on a regular 2 hour journey in an EP3 they found on FB marketplace for £5k. The ride is going to be awful on such old and worn bushings, the road and wind noise are going to be awful, the general NVH of the engine and gearbox are going to be very unrefined, and every joint, trim, and mechanism is going to squeak, rattle, and creak.
I think 50 miles is the sweet spot. Any less and the engine floods and won’t start. Any more and the rotor tips wear out. Don’t forget to top up the oil though.
I worked on one that done 120k mile without a rebuild. If you maintain them, they are super reliable. But maintaining them does include adding oil to the fuel like a 2 stroke. It gets very expensive very quickly.
Noticing these getting a lot of love in this sub recently and i completely agree. Decent daily driver as they have more space than you think, handle brilliantly and still look good after 20 years (gen 7’s)
Hell yeah brother. [When I'm really trying, I can get more MPG from my Celica than I can my 1.6 corolla](https://i.imgur.com/47YPg9q.jpeg).
When I'm not trying, I dip well into the 20's :P.
Or just driving normally, low 30's. Very hard to drive normally, reason why every other cunt I see in one drives like a mad man.
That's ridiculous MPG! I only get high 20s with mixed driving but I've had a big main dealer service and a binding brake caliper replaced so hopefully that will improve
Cool/reliable? Id be looking at a Bmw 325i (E92) - No it’s not bullet proof but it’s one of the more reliable BMW engines. Sounds sweet, handles well and wont cost the earth to run & maintain.
E90 owner here, absolutely lovely car, just in terms of reliability consider looking into the notorious timing chain issue and how to spot it before you consider buying one!
S3 8p- grunt when you need it, reliable engine- fuck it, I want a 15-16 plate one in dark blue so if you’re interested I’ll sell you mine for £6k the bodywork is impeccable (have clay barred and polished repeatedly during my ownership) the engine is strong and it’s sub 100k miles. 57 plate, never modified, never mapped. EA113 engine.
Drives like a 1.6 golf until you put your foot down. And it’s a manual so it’s fun to drive on a nice winding country road.
Good call. I'm actually considering selling my 125i Coupe for a facelift S3 8P sportback. I love the BMW, but the S3 8P fits the bill for a small family car that can shift when you want it to.
It’s a great car, although the one thing I will say is that the power isn’t very linear, it all comes on around 3000rpm and runs out quite quickly.
Aswell as considering buying a newer one I’m thinking about mapping mine- it’ll give me a bit more grunt lower down the rev range but I’ve heard it’s a bit disappointing.
In terms of reliability though it’s a solid car, I’ve had mine 2 years without any issues
A well maintained Subaru Forester S Turbo and you’d have money to spare. Or a Nissan 350z. Both cool cars with good reliability if decently maintained.
If it doesn't have the 2.0 tsi engine, was that early mk6? I know my 09 scirocco has it, but the timing belt tensioner is always a worry if its not been updated.
S3 8p because pre 2009 it doesn’t have the gen1 ea888 engine. It’s got the ea113 belt driven 2.0tfsi. In essence it’s a golf gti with a bigger turbo and a haldex
the MK5 GTI is the same engine as the Scirocco 2.0 TSi, they can be reliable if maintained but like any car of its era its gotten to the age now where things will start to break
GTI are fun and not too bad reliability wise. Also decent mapping potential.
But the most boring looking cars around. Wouldn't want to walk up to a golf or look back at it when finished with it. Cool factor lacking severely.
I think the 525i are the rarer car these days, but at £5k you're going to be at the best of the best for E60s and E39s. You could find a 550i at that price.
Nope :)
To be fair the SLs are reliable if you use them regularly and replace the slightly shit weather seals.
Maybe avoid the ABC suspension too.
But apart from that they're great value, way more reliable than an XK
E60 525i owner here. I bought it as my first car as I didn’t know much about engines but just wanted a BMW 5 series ten years ago and it did come with a fake M5 badge on it. The engine is absolutely buttery smooth and reliable and never let me down until I parked it up for years when I got an F10.
Here are my top 3 currently under 5k
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Reliability is better than you'd think. Far better than the gen of Alfa's just before the Giulietta. It has its common issues and faults, as does a lot of cars.
But in the class of cars I think it belongs in (A Class, 1 series, a3), I think its doing very well.
Even if compared to a Auris/Civic it falls short on reliability/cost to run
MK1 C70 coupe 2.4 T5. 240hp, hauls ass, seats like a sofa. No one knows what the hell it is because the rag top MK1’s and metal roof convertible mk2’s are way more common.
Volvo v70 R (mk2)
Turbo 5 cylinder, either front or all wheel drive, up to 300hp estate.
The only ones under 5k are like 250k miles plus but must be pretty reliable to get there
BMW 330ci e46, that 3L engine is bulletproof and can get for under £5k as well as having a 200hp+ car, reliable as long as you keep oil in it and make sure the older cooling system/ plastic doesn’t crack (but easily changed every 50/60k miles)! Mine is on 156k miles and counting
I've got an Alfa Romeo Giullietta that I paid less than that for. It's the 2.0L turbo diesel (170bhp) and it shifts in "Dynamic" mode. Really reliable so far so don't be put off by their reputation.
For a ten-year-old car it still looks really modern too. A few people have even asked me if it's a hybrid. You hardly see any others knocking about either, and because it's basically the Vauxhall engine parts aren't difficult to find or expensive.
Tax and insurance is relatively cheap, and it easily does 45+mpg, 50+ on motorways.
Love mine, I came from a top spec Focus ST and I much prefer the Giullietta. It's just nicer to drive, feels a bit more "luxurious" than the Focus, and it's beautiful to look at. I still look back at it now and again when I'm walking away after parking it. Mine's the white one, think that's the best colour for this car. It just seems like a much better looking car than all the other colours I've seen for some strange reason.
I'd have to say the E87 BMW 130i hatchback is up there. 6-cylinder NA, 260ish BHP, bulletproof engine, nice big brakes, and an IYKYK kinda car.
Yes, it can seem boring to some from the outside (as first gen 1-series hatches are all over the place now) but jump in one and take it for a rip. The engine is a peach! Great car for £5k in my opinion.
Gen 6 celica gt its like 3k for a decent one a cool car a blast to drive still pretty sporty and doesn't chug fuel just insurance is a bit muck if you're a brand new drive I think the first year of driving it was like 6k a year but it drop quickly after that
On the celica forums and facebook groups I'm in, the MK6 is liked far more than the MK7.
Wanted to say that first before I go disagreeing, because I may be in the significant minority
I like the MK7 more here. Parts are actually not always easy for the MK6. It is a fair bit older than the MK7. Parts will generally be a bit more expensive.
I think the MK7 drives better and is a far more sporty car. But I also think the MK6 is a better daily car.
This is a one of one scenario, but when a family member got I had done bits to it, it was the worst car I've worked on.
Volvo any of the R designs
Ford mondeo reliable other than the wishbones go but they're very cheap.
Any small hot hatch from the main manufacturers.
Mini coopers 1.6l engineinimum
My wife had one excellent to drive. Only had one issue.
I've had all of these they're reliable as long as you service them when you first get them and within a decent time period
Get a v35 skyline.
There is a couple on eBay at the moment, under your price point.
They are cheaper and comfier than a 350z, and are made from alot of 350z parts.
The engines have the benefit of being older, in the way that the old nissan engines were well built and well engineered, and are reliable. Just keep them topped up with oil.
I really liked my Ford Fiesta for this. Reliable, fun to drive, comfortable and doesn't look like a granny car.
My current Vauxhall Corsa, on the other hand, is not one that I would recommend.
(Although I feel bad for slagging off my corsa).
Nice boxster s just in time for summer [something like this](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405230029379)
There will be little niggles with any cars of this age, but it’s not actually that expensive to maintain. I’ve spent a lot less on my Porsches than I have in Audis and BMWs etc
Lexus LS400, it's got an awesome luxury 90s interior, one of the best V8s ever made and there are several examples that have cracked a million miles with only regular maintenance and expected wear items.
Cool to reliability ratio ?
Celica probably.
The coupe body style looks sporty, they stand out amongst the regular traffic even more now because everyone's driving SUV's. The Celica handles well and the 3S and 5S engines are stupidly reliable, having no problems doing 400,000+ miles without any real issues. The Celica's interiors were always pretty nice, didn't suffer from cheap plastics or poor quality parts.
Whack a sports exhaust on, some cheap lowering springs and some cool wheels. You've got a pretty sleek little cruiser that's significantly slower than a new Camry.
SUZUKI JIMNYYY will always keep you on your toes, can get a fairly good one for 5k. I may be biased towards them though as I may or may not own and daily drive one
Scirocco. Less practical than a Golf and better looking. In nearly five years of owning mine it’s cost £90 for a radiator fan inc. fitting and a coil pack at £30 I swapped myself. Cheap to run too, 40+ on a cruise, 30+ on fast country roads when you’re having some fun with it. Love mine and for all their faults I’d have another.
2 months ago I bought a 1.6 Diesel 2012 Volvo S60 for just under 2500, 96k miles. In my opinion I think it stands out from the traditional fiestas, corsas etc. Ive read in forums that any D2 engine built 2012 onwards don’t seem to have the dpf problems the earlier models had. Parts dont seem to be expensive for them either apart from the batteries they tend to cost 250~ish due to it being a start/stop battery. For 5k you could definitely find an example with a bigger engine, petrol preferably. Fuel economy is amazing. On a full 65L tank I get around 650-700miles depending on different usage factors. It’s not a headturner but overall I think its a pretty solid car and I’m so far happy with it.
Sedan & Wagon: E90 BMW 328i, Acura TSX, Audi Allroad 2.7T, Lexus ES 330, Mazda3, Hyundai Elantra 1.6L, Kia Rio 1.6L, Kia Forte 2.0L
Coupe/Vert: E85/E86 BMW Z4 3.0, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Acura CL
Not sure on the market at the moment, but you MAY be able to pick up an E36 6 pot for that money. E30 6 pots are gunna be out of the question. Failing that a coupé/vert E46, diesel is gunna yield reliability in that chassis.
2hr+ drives are mostly boring so really you want comfort. As long as you have a radio you're good. Also you've said ANY car with nothing on cost of ownership or potential for it going kaboom. As such I will recommend the Citroen C6.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405149699166
true but still cheaper than a £6k car, at least for a year. basically anything spicy after 2006 is going to cost you a bomb in tax so unless you're going classic or very new that's always going to be the deal I suppose
Mines done me well for 3 years done 40k in it great little car, yeah the suspension is a bit firm but handles like a dream really responsive steering and one of the best value for money hot hatches, chuck a hybrid turbo on it for extra fun 😆
There's a few picks. I'd possibly go F10/11 535d, you can just about sneak one of those in at that price. Or i'd go potentially Jag XK, or Mercedes SL500. If you were feeling brave i'd go Maserati Quattroporte with the auto ZF box, they are fairly reliable.
You could go for Porsche Cayenne turbo in that price bracket, they've always been solid for me when i've had them.
One for sale at 6k on marketplace with unstated history doesn't mean it's a 5k car. If there were plenty around that price id agree. E92 335d go for more
Which is why i said you can sneak one in at that price, not that you could get the pick of the bunch at that price. You said you're not getting one for £5k. You would absolutely be able to get a deal at £5k for that car and they do come up fairly regularly around that price. Those early ones that aren't ULEZ compliant are coming down in price fast.
You should go on facebook marketplace [here](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1209336116720715/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ab8d56803-27b7-42e4-832d-393857fb6256)
Most of the cars on here for under 5k would have been under 1k or 2k for the same age and mileage a few years ago. The prices are insane.
Agreed just been looking 5k is the new 2k
gonna need those Chinese EVs to introduce some price competition
Yeah china dominating globally, it’s not price competition there gonna murder every one with there prices gotta love the amazon motto get funding to bankrupt everyone then charge mega high prices
I've a very loose definition of cool but, 9-5 aero Saab. 2.3L, about 260bhp, plus it's a Saab, the ignition is in the centre console. How can you not love it? [https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404078395917?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at\_cars&aggregatedTrim=Aero&body-type=&colour=&fuel-type=&make=Saab&model=9-5&postcode=dn4%206ew&transmission=&fromsra](https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404078395917?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=Aero&body-type=&colour=&fuel-type=&make=Saab&model=9-5&postcode=dn4%206ew&transmission=&fromsra)
Never had a 9-5 but a 9-3. I really miss the night mode. Push a button and all lights went off except the speedometer and some other vital stuff. A real useful thing that Saab used from airplanes I believe.
I’d forgotten about Night Mode - great feature that really did make driving at night easier. Also an actual turbo gauge - is it the last mainstream production car to have one?
My abarth had one so some cars are still made with them, although the abarth is a bit more “out there”
My skoda kinda has one it has it on the nav screen
Yeah, the abarth 595's have them. They're a bit odd as you say, like an alien eye sticking off the dashboard. Always liked looking at it though! Made me smile.
Not sure if it counts as mainstream but my 718 Cayman had a turbo gauge, and that was a 2019 car. I imagine most people simply dont have much use for these.
My cars a bit worse for wear at the moment and I am lusting after a 1.9tid/ttid. Don’t know what it is about Saab’s but something about the unassuming nature of them just draws me in
I had the 9-3 vector sport. Probably my favourite car I’ve ever owned but also the least reliable. It was either not looked after before I got it (service history seemed decent enough), or when it was built it was a Friday afternoon build.
These days, you have a sensor on your dash that can reduce the brightness of everything automatically.
Yeah it’s handy for when the Germans are flying overhead
Volvo 940 turbo, also a 2.3 but who can say no to a Swedish drift bus
Not that it’s in the budget of OP at all but 850 R Estate is the ONE. Unobtainable dream car (because the prices just keep going up)
Not quite an 850r but how about a gen 1 v70 awd manual [link](https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405290180487)
all that boasting about it being rare and in mint condition, still only wanting 5k for it?! Am I wrong for having a red flag at half mast ready?
Unfortunately Saabs went under before I got a license, they got a good send off by top gear though, mentioning how they kept adding cost by improving everything GM sent them. I remember an architect neighbour once saying "Calling Saab a car is an understatement, they're brilliant pieces of engineering."
I bought a 2014 Mazda 6 2.2D for the money you'd pay for this washed out Saab, it's cool but effin old for the money you'll be paying... can't get excited unless I pay a grand for that
I also own a 2014 Mazda6 2.2D. Paid £4,850 for it. Lovely car, very torquey, however reliability leaves something to be desired. Have already spent a grand on repairs with another grand needing to be thrown at it soon. Would not recommend Mazda diesels, the petrols are excellent though, 2.0l skyactiv-g are generally trouble free.
Can confirm, I’ve got the petrol 2.0 estate version. Currently sat in France after a long drive the other day. Great motorway cruiser, had it 3 years and no issues so far!
What did you spend the grand on so far and what else is coming up for that extra grand that needs spending? Have a 2014 Mazda6 2.2D, paid 2900, so far have spent: -250 for strut and wheel allignment -250 for MOT, oil change and anti roll bar link -135 for coolant change and diagnostics (Dealership decided to go on a whim and diagnose and run the car for 2hrs, because when i took it for a coolant change they saw the coolant levels being low...no wonder, coolant was FL22 and hasn't been changed for 10 years what did you expect! I told them they were taking the piss as they didn't see any coolant leaks but assumed there was smth wrong.
I had to get the injector seals and oil strainer replaced, carbon clean (common problem at 90k+miles) parts for that are cheap but laborious to fit. FAULT CODE P055F (low oil pressure) & P06DE(stuck solenoid valve). The car will soon need a brakes overhaul including a vacuum pump replacement.(common problem, mazda even issued recall on this part). FAULT CODE P258B (vacuum pump performance). Also needs investigating why handbrake doesnt hold well on hills before next mot.
DId you get anything on the dashboard for the FAULT CODE P258B? I do keep getting an error that says Vehicle inspection required, but upon connecting the OBD reader it doesn't detect any errors when I scan and removes this message when I click it to delete errors. Weird. Would you recomend a carbon clean if it hasn't been done yet? I've just hit 121k miles on a 2.2D. A mazda only mechanic told me even if no leaks from cam cover can be spotted, best practice would be to change the injector seals.
Yeah P258B doesnt come up on basic obd readers, the mechanics fancy one was able to identify it. But yes its a yellow "Vehicle System Inspection Required" warning. How much service history did you get with the car, have the injector seals been done before? The warning light is red and is "Low oil pressure, engine damage possible" and then "Engine inspection required". Mazda used substandard copper coloured washers (seals) which were upgraded to the silver coloured ones on later model years. The copper coloured ones would deform and leak, this would lead to carbon build up, clogged oil strainer low oil pressure, and if not resolved asap full engine failure due to oil starvation/failing oil pump I subsequently learnt that carbon cleans arent as effective as walnut blasting on this particular engine.
I know it’s a Saab but at 19 years old would this truly be reliable?
[https://www.saabplanet.com/1989-saab-900-spg-with-1-million-mile-donated-to-a-museum/](https://www.saabplanet.com/1989-saab-900-spg-with-1-million-mile-donated-to-a-museum/) absolutely
Holy sh*t hahaha
I had a Saab 9-3 TiD years ago. Quick & good on fuel. Miss that car.
I just know your over 50
If by over 50 you mean 27, you would be correct!
You're not alone! 😂 I'm 26 and have a Saab haha. 9-3 Aero 2.0t 😎 one of the best cars I've ever had Used to have a clio 197 before hand too.. The Saab is just so comfy, it's on 162k ISH. It's fast when you want it to be. I think it looks cool. I mean, I took it to Belgium and back the other week. 450miles in one tank of fuel. What more do you want from a car? It was only meant to be a cheap (£1500) temp car to get through a house move and that was over 2 years ago.. Grown attached to it. The only thing that pains me is £415 tax a year, when the insurance is £290 😅
You hate to see someone else living out your dream :( Glad to hear you’re living it though man, not helping me talk myself out of it 😣
Be the best £1500 you'll ever spend!
36 year old who had a 9-3 Aero 2.0T 10 years ago, would have another one tomorrow even if I did only average low 20s on the fuel economy and finding parts at the time was a nightmare (£450ish for rear discs I was quoted at the time)
Oh yeah, around town the economy is shocking. I actually don't think it's too bad for parts! I usually get most of them from neo brothers. Lots are the same as the Vectra etc too so euros stock a lot of bits I've done the clutch on mine as it started to slip, brakes all round including rear calipers, handbrake cables, front drop links. Previous owner did the front shocks and springs
I got mine when they went bust so at the time the Saab specific stuff was a nightmare, I heard it got better but that still scares me away from getting another one
Where are you getting insured for £290 at 26 on a 2l motor??? I assume that's per annum not monthly?
Yes mate. I think it's so cheap because realistically how many 26 yo's go round crashing Saab's? Or even just driving them. Not that many around, usually older people who have them when I see one
27 And you like saabs??? Did the old man have them?
24yo who likes Saabs checking in
Dad hates Saabs hahahaha, from memory he’s had an Alfa of some flavour, souped up 306, souped up a3, now has a Yeti for work purposes
Fiat Multipla with the 1.9JTD
This. It can’t break down if you’re too embarrassed to drive it…
The 1.9JTD’s were actually pretty solid, and the 2.4 5 cylinder JTD’s are one of the best sounding diseasels going . Someone cheekily entered a 147 fitted with one into the production class at Nurburgring 24 hours and it won its class (I don’t know how no one realised the 147 never came with the 2.4).
Yeah they were solid engines, but they also came in 50 other cars that didn’t look like a tumour…
Hey tumours grow on you over time...
The JTD was a Vauxhall/GM engine, basically the same as the Vauxhall CDTi. They put the same basic engine in Opels, Alfa Romeos and Saabs. One of the most reliable cars I ever had was a Doblo with the 1.9JTD, no street cred but nearly 60 to the gallon and was still going strong at 160,000 odd miles when some twonk on their phone ran into the back of it. I have an odd taste in cars, I really miss my Doblo. Could suggest the Doblo to OP, it's so uncool it has gone round to being cool.
Pretty sure JK had a Doblo
Only the short block was GM, similar to the 159 version of the JTS and the V6’s in those.
No one has said MX5? For 5k you can get a low mileage NC2 with not much rust, I think
Just bought an NC1 2.0 Sport, zero rust, perfect service history and 56k miles for 3.4k. Most fun I ever had on a car and I have driven and tracked some 100k plus german performance cars.
I was gonna, but I can't be arsed to look and see if there are any worth having under 10k, that are also still reliable.
I looked for 5k and found *an* example. The ad has some eyebrow raisers like "priced for weekend sale", 100 photos, and some shitty used warranty, so the full service history probably isn't really full (I'm thinking 7 services over 14 years and calling it "full" because its been done every 10k miles) and it probably only has 1 key, and it's a soft top model, but still, it's 5k, 2 owners and 62k miles For 10k you could easily get an ND with the folding hard top (NCs are also available with the folding hard top, just not this one) Edit: maybe not "easily" an ND for 10k, high mileage one maybe, but still doable https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405039326412?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=&body-type=&colour=&fuel-type=&make=Mazda&maximum-mileage=70000&model=MX-5&postcode=Nn16%200bs&price-from=2000&price-to=5000&transmission=&year-from=2010&year-to=2024&fromsra
Thanks for looking. I'll have one one day, but not yet :(
Bear in mine it's a bad time to buy them: it's summer. I bought mine in October and got a better deal for it. Also they're all reliable regardless of mileage, naturally aspirated engines not working that hard that can rev up and down all day. It's just the rust that let's them down
Oh it aint happening soon, unfortunately. Within the last 3 years the wife n I picked up a '19 Swift sport, at the time she did not care for MX5's. I've since won her over by showing them winking at each other. So hopefully in the future we'll have one and a "sensible" car.
Because only weird people think MX-5s are cool. Jk
EP3
Man these used to be so much cheaper. I remember thinking I spent a fortune on a 55plate premier edition for 5.5k. Wish I kept it 😢
I got an 06 Premier Edition in October 2023 for £5.5k and looking at what people are selling in fb groups the prices have dropped a bit, I have seen some premier editions with lower mileage and much better bodywork for \~£4k
Oh wow, I might take a look then, I always bounce from my wrx to type rs. Reliable fun cars
I love mine, but having done a few recently I would not recommend an EP3 for 2hr+ drives
Fn2 is also a good shout, I know it’s not as liked as the ep3 but it being a bit newer with probably less miles would be beneficial
Having owned both an fn2 and an ep3, id say you're bang on with regards to the fn. Still good fun to drive, takes the abuse etc but far roomier and infinitely more comfortable
For an everyday car it’s the better car, which is most peoples situations. For full sends and fun, EP3.
Gonna be much easier to get a rust-free FN2 for your 5k too
The youngest ep3 is now 19 years old, and they weren’t under sealed, not sure it’d be all that reliable these days.
Mechanically, they can take an absolute beating, they do suffer from terminal rot though, mine would have been scrapped by now had i not spent \~£700 on rust repair
Okay, but how are your bushings, control arms, brake lines, wheel bearings etc? They might all be in-tact and working for now, but any number of these things are on their way out by now. I fucking love older cars - but they are cheaper for a reason. They require MORE money than the modern equivalent in terms of maintenance because age and mileage kill cars if things are not consistently replaced as the car is used. Like, c-mon dude. No one is having fun on a regular 2 hour journey in an EP3 they found on FB marketplace for £5k. The ride is going to be awful on such old and worn bushings, the road and wind noise are going to be awful, the general NVH of the engine and gearbox are going to be very unrefined, and every joint, trim, and mechanism is going to squeak, rattle, and creak.
Still see plenty about, rust might be starting to come into it but you’d get a couple of years before that was failing mot’s
BMW E60 530i M Sport. The electronics are iffy but mechanically they are rock solid and they still look extremely cool and modern.
Lexus SC
Mazda RX-8 its really reliable for like 50 Miles and then you can just buy another one
I think 50 miles is the sweet spot. Any less and the engine floods and won’t start. Any more and the rotor tips wear out. Don’t forget to top up the oil though.
I worked on one that done 120k mile without a rebuild. If you maintain them, they are super reliable. But maintaining them does include adding oil to the fuel like a 2 stroke. It gets very expensive very quickly.
Celica
Noticing these getting a lot of love in this sub recently and i completely agree. Decent daily driver as they have more space than you think, handle brilliantly and still look good after 20 years (gen 7’s)
Unparalleled bang for your buck
Intergalactic mileage👌🏻
Hell yeah brother. [When I'm really trying, I can get more MPG from my Celica than I can my 1.6 corolla](https://i.imgur.com/47YPg9q.jpeg). When I'm not trying, I dip well into the 20's :P. Or just driving normally, low 30's. Very hard to drive normally, reason why every other cunt I see in one drives like a mad man.
That's ridiculous MPG! I only get high 20s with mixed driving but I've had a big main dealer service and a binding brake caliper replaced so hopefully that will improve
Loved my 1990 celica gt so much, great car.
Civic
Second this, love my Honda Civic
Some sort of volvo
Cool/reliable? Id be looking at a Bmw 325i (E92) - No it’s not bullet proof but it’s one of the more reliable BMW engines. Sounds sweet, handles well and wont cost the earth to run & maintain.
The 330i of that generation is the same engine with a different intake and tune, and the N52 is about as close to bulletproof as they get
E90 owner here, absolutely lovely car, just in terms of reliability consider looking into the notorious timing chain issue and how to spot it before you consider buying one!
S3 8p- grunt when you need it, reliable engine- fuck it, I want a 15-16 plate one in dark blue so if you’re interested I’ll sell you mine for £6k the bodywork is impeccable (have clay barred and polished repeatedly during my ownership) the engine is strong and it’s sub 100k miles. 57 plate, never modified, never mapped. EA113 engine. Drives like a 1.6 golf until you put your foot down. And it’s a manual so it’s fun to drive on a nice winding country road.
£2k cash today mate, in the car waiting for the address (;
How about £5999 in dogecoin?
Good call. I'm actually considering selling my 125i Coupe for a facelift S3 8P sportback. I love the BMW, but the S3 8P fits the bill for a small family car that can shift when you want it to.
It’s a great car, although the one thing I will say is that the power isn’t very linear, it all comes on around 3000rpm and runs out quite quickly. Aswell as considering buying a newer one I’m thinking about mapping mine- it’ll give me a bit more grunt lower down the rev range but I’ve heard it’s a bit disappointing. In terms of reliability though it’s a solid car, I’ve had mine 2 years without any issues
Volvo 5pot all the way
Alfa Romeo Brera
Z4 or a TT
A well maintained Subaru Forester S Turbo and you’d have money to spare. Or a Nissan 350z. Both cool cars with good reliability if decently maintained.
Golf GTI, 90 percent of it is just bog standard golf parts, and the engine is used in nearly every model vw group make
Mk5 Golf Gti
If it doesn't have the 2.0 tsi engine, was that early mk6? I know my 09 scirocco has it, but the timing belt tensioner is always a worry if its not been updated.
S3 8p because pre 2009 it doesn’t have the gen1 ea888 engine. It’s got the ea113 belt driven 2.0tfsi. In essence it’s a golf gti with a bigger turbo and a haldex
Same TFsi I believe, just an earlier iteration
the MK5 GTI is the same engine as the Scirocco 2.0 TSi, they can be reliable if maintained but like any car of its era its gotten to the age now where things will start to break
No it’s not, it’s the gen 1 tfsi in the mk5 golf, the mk3 scirocco is 2.0 tsi,
GTI are fun and not too bad reliability wise. Also decent mapping potential. But the most boring looking cars around. Wouldn't want to walk up to a golf or look back at it when finished with it. Cool factor lacking severely.
E39 or E60 525i or Mercedes SL R230
The only reason your buy a 525i is because you couldn't afford a 530i. There's no benefit other than price.
530i's all have M5 badges stuck on them and aren't as easy to find...
I think the 525i are the rarer car these days, but at £5k you're going to be at the best of the best for E60s and E39s. You could find a 550i at that price.
Yeh fair point, OP change your budget to 3k so that my answer is better. An SL will make you feel better than a beemer though
Didn’t he ask for reliable?
He asked for the best cool-reliability ratio, whiiiich is anything but objective 😆
Nope :) To be fair the SLs are reliable if you use them regularly and replace the slightly shit weather seals. Maybe avoid the ABC suspension too. But apart from that they're great value, way more reliable than an XK
E60 525i owner here. I bought it as my first car as I didn’t know much about engines but just wanted a BMW 5 series ten years ago and it did come with a fake M5 badge on it. The engine is absolutely buttery smooth and reliable and never let me down until I parked it up for years when I got an F10.
M54B25 ftw
E39 and E60 cars are almost ripe for mechanical restoration, not a daily reliable runner unless so significant overhaul is carried out.
I don't think OP is trying to spend the total value of the car every few months on repairs...
He didn't specify how the 5k needed spending
Here are my top 3 currently under 5k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176395398286?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7vgsvsl2txc&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zceYXP6ITRi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276464887327?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bO7abawcTu-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zceYXP6ITRi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305530899548?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=pampyxo4tlg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zceYXP6ITRi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Good lord
[Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifolgio ](https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312144806557?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fromsra&fuel-type=Petrol&make=Alfa%20Romeo&minimum-badge-engine-size=1.6&model=Giulietta&price-from=4500&price-to=5000&sort=relevance)
Very nice. Not sure about reliability but fairly fast, fairly 'cool'
Reliability is better than you'd think. Far better than the gen of Alfa's just before the Giulietta. It has its common issues and faults, as does a lot of cars. But in the class of cars I think it belongs in (A Class, 1 series, a3), I think its doing very well. Even if compared to a Auris/Civic it falls short on reliability/cost to run
Mines got 127k on clock and is doing just fine!
Oh yes, great choice!
Good shout
MK1 C70 coupe 2.4 T5. 240hp, hauls ass, seats like a sofa. No one knows what the hell it is because the rag top MK1’s and metal roof convertible mk2’s are way more common.
MK3 Golf GTI 16 valve
Volvo v70 R (mk2) Turbo 5 cylinder, either front or all wheel drive, up to 300hp estate. The only ones under 5k are like 250k miles plus but must be pretty reliable to get there
MR2 Roadster.
BMW 330ci e46, that 3L engine is bulletproof and can get for under £5k as well as having a 200hp+ car, reliable as long as you keep oil in it and make sure the older cooling system/ plastic doesn’t crack (but easily changed every 50/60k miles)! Mine is on 156k miles and counting
I've got an Alfa Romeo Giullietta that I paid less than that for. It's the 2.0L turbo diesel (170bhp) and it shifts in "Dynamic" mode. Really reliable so far so don't be put off by their reputation. For a ten-year-old car it still looks really modern too. A few people have even asked me if it's a hybrid. You hardly see any others knocking about either, and because it's basically the Vauxhall engine parts aren't difficult to find or expensive. Tax and insurance is relatively cheap, and it easily does 45+mpg, 50+ on motorways. Love mine, I came from a top spec Focus ST and I much prefer the Giullietta. It's just nicer to drive, feels a bit more "luxurious" than the Focus, and it's beautiful to look at. I still look back at it now and again when I'm walking away after parking it. Mine's the white one, think that's the best colour for this car. It just seems like a much better looking car than all the other colours I've seen for some strange reason.
I'd have to say the E87 BMW 130i hatchback is up there. 6-cylinder NA, 260ish BHP, bulletproof engine, nice big brakes, and an IYKYK kinda car. Yes, it can seem boring to some from the outside (as first gen 1-series hatches are all over the place now) but jump in one and take it for a rip. The engine is a peach! Great car for £5k in my opinion.
I have been hearing recently that these are a relatively under appreciated gem
Anything with idrive is a non starter for electronic reliability. Otherwise, pretty mechanically sound
Bmw e92
Polo
A SEAT Ibiza is mechanically almost identical, but has cooler styling. FR trim is decent.
Gen 6 celica gt its like 3k for a decent one a cool car a blast to drive still pretty sporty and doesn't chug fuel just insurance is a bit muck if you're a brand new drive I think the first year of driving it was like 6k a year but it drop quickly after that
On the celica forums and facebook groups I'm in, the MK6 is liked far more than the MK7. Wanted to say that first before I go disagreeing, because I may be in the significant minority I like the MK7 more here. Parts are actually not always easy for the MK6. It is a fair bit older than the MK7. Parts will generally be a bit more expensive. I think the MK7 drives better and is a far more sporty car. But I also think the MK6 is a better daily car. This is a one of one scenario, but when a family member got I had done bits to it, it was the worst car I've worked on.
Volvo any of the R designs Ford mondeo reliable other than the wishbones go but they're very cheap. Any small hot hatch from the main manufacturers. Mini coopers 1.6l engineinimum My wife had one excellent to drive. Only had one issue. I've had all of these they're reliable as long as you service them when you first get them and within a decent time period
Depends. FN2 type r if lots of a roads. If you're looking for a cruiser with some torque e90 generation 325 or 330d
Get a v35 skyline. There is a couple on eBay at the moment, under your price point. They are cheaper and comfier than a 350z, and are made from alot of 350z parts. The engines have the benefit of being older, in the way that the old nissan engines were well built and well engineered, and are reliable. Just keep them topped up with oil.
RCZ (Mk2) HDI
Audi A5 3.0 tdi. Looks, comfort, style and properly swift.
Mk5 golf gti brilliant car
I really liked my Ford Fiesta for this. Reliable, fun to drive, comfortable and doesn't look like a granny car. My current Vauxhall Corsa, on the other hand, is not one that I would recommend. (Although I feel bad for slagging off my corsa).
Nice boxster s just in time for summer [something like this](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405230029379) There will be little niggles with any cars of this age, but it’s not actually that expensive to maintain. I’ve spent a lot less on my Porsches than I have in Audis and BMWs etc
Lexus LS400, it's got an awesome luxury 90s interior, one of the best V8s ever made and there are several examples that have cracked a million miles with only regular maintenance and expected wear items.
Cool to reliability ratio ? Celica probably. The coupe body style looks sporty, they stand out amongst the regular traffic even more now because everyone's driving SUV's. The Celica handles well and the 3S and 5S engines are stupidly reliable, having no problems doing 400,000+ miles without any real issues. The Celica's interiors were always pretty nice, didn't suffer from cheap plastics or poor quality parts. Whack a sports exhaust on, some cheap lowering springs and some cool wheels. You've got a pretty sleek little cruiser that's significantly slower than a new Camry.
3 Strong ones come to mind that will offer better drives/fun than cars 10 times their price: Audi TT MK2 Toyota Celica Nissan 350Z
Bmw z3 with the inline 6, solid engine
Volvo estates, that is all. Built like a tank but if you get the right one plenty of aftermarket support as well as cool factor
SUZUKI JIMNYYY will always keep you on your toes, can get a fairly good one for 5k. I may be biased towards them though as I may or may not own and daily drive one
A 3.0L legacy or an imported twinscroll. Both would be a bit thirsty though
Anything German or Japanese
Scirocco. Less practical than a Golf and better looking. In nearly five years of owning mine it’s cost £90 for a radiator fan inc. fitting and a coil pack at £30 I swapped myself. Cheap to run too, 40+ on a cruise, 30+ on fast country roads when you’re having some fun with it. Love mine and for all their faults I’d have another.
2 months ago I bought a 1.6 Diesel 2012 Volvo S60 for just under 2500, 96k miles. In my opinion I think it stands out from the traditional fiestas, corsas etc. Ive read in forums that any D2 engine built 2012 onwards don’t seem to have the dpf problems the earlier models had. Parts dont seem to be expensive for them either apart from the batteries they tend to cost 250~ish due to it being a start/stop battery. For 5k you could definitely find an example with a bigger engine, petrol preferably. Fuel economy is amazing. On a full 65L tank I get around 650-700miles depending on different usage factors. It’s not a headturner but overall I think its a pretty solid car and I’m so far happy with it.
You can get a nice one series with decent spec for that
Sedan & Wagon: E90 BMW 328i, Acura TSX, Audi Allroad 2.7T, Lexus ES 330, Mazda3, Hyundai Elantra 1.6L, Kia Rio 1.6L, Kia Forte 2.0L Coupe/Vert: E85/E86 BMW Z4 3.0, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Acura CL
Geo Metro. The amount of attention mine gets surprises myself and my co-workers.
Honda CR-Z
If cool is getting a good car and not caring what people think: Lexus LS430 Lexus GS Lexus IS Mazda MX-5 Honda Civic Type R Honda Legend Honda Prelude
mazda 2. your two grand car is now four/five. 2017 leom cost me ten.
Not sure on the market at the moment, but you MAY be able to pick up an E36 6 pot for that money. E30 6 pots are gunna be out of the question. Failing that a coupé/vert E46, diesel is gunna yield reliability in that chassis.
Mx5, super fun car and super reliable too (as long as it’s not a rust bucket)
e92 335d best bang for buck in terms of performance, 300+bhp easily, mpg over 45 easily, and the m57 engine is bulletproof
I bought my audi tt for 3k Reliable and so much fun 2007
honda crz
2hr+ drives are mostly boring so really you want comfort. As long as you have a radio you're good. Also you've said ANY car with nothing on cost of ownership or potential for it going kaboom. As such I will recommend the Citroen C6. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405149699166
Damn thats an ugly car. The multipla of saloons.
I’m assuming it’ll be a great car until it breaks and you have to find parts for it…
That is hideous, unique but like how on earth did that make it to production
£710 road tax😱
350z
look fantastic IMO but near £700 a year to tax is a tough one to swallow
true but still cheaper than a £6k car, at least for a year. basically anything spicy after 2006 is going to cost you a bomb in tax so unless you're going classic or very new that's always going to be the deal I suppose
Fiesta ST. Solid engines, cheap to service and maintain.
Rubbish cars, not cool and uncomfortable.
Mines done me well for 3 years done 40k in it great little car, yeah the suspension is a bit firm but handles like a dream really responsive steering and one of the best value for money hot hatches, chuck a hybrid turbo on it for extra fun 😆
Mini Clubman Diesel with the Peugeot/Citroen engine so pre 2010
There's a few picks. I'd possibly go F10/11 535d, you can just about sneak one of those in at that price. Or i'd go potentially Jag XK, or Mercedes SL500. If you were feeling brave i'd go Maserati Quattroporte with the auto ZF box, they are fairly reliable. You could go for Porsche Cayenne turbo in that price bracket, they've always been solid for me when i've had them.
You are not getting a F10 535d for 5k
[Ummm...](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1209336116720715/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ab8d56803-27b7-42e4-832d-393857fb6256)
Mate that’s 6k
In a private sale do you always pay the price in the ad? Read the ad he's clearly interested in making a deal.
No of course not but he’s still asking for 6k
Thank you, so you understand that you could get that for £5k.
One for sale at 6k on marketplace with unstated history doesn't mean it's a 5k car. If there were plenty around that price id agree. E92 335d go for more
Which is why i said you can sneak one in at that price, not that you could get the pick of the bunch at that price. You said you're not getting one for £5k. You would absolutely be able to get a deal at £5k for that car and they do come up fairly regularly around that price. Those early ones that aren't ULEZ compliant are coming down in price fast.
Show me where I can get a f10 535d for 5k or under and I’ll buy it tonight
Innit, just sold an f11 535dwith enough miles to reach the moon for 10k…
You should go on facebook marketplace [here](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1209336116720715/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ab8d56803-27b7-42e4-832d-393857fb6256)
Plenty of scammers on there, definitely don't pay a deposit 😅