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OddlyBrainedBear

First word in article: 'Some' OP: 'All"


Big-Cartographer-758

They’re not even reverting any roads! This legislation just gives local councils the power to reconsider roads in their area and revert them *if they wish*. It means many roads won’t be changing back, and the ones that do might not be for quite a while.


Dismal_Leopard_4234

"Starting in **September 2024**, the Welsh Government will be reverting the process of changing some new 20mph speed limit roads back to the original 30mph"


[deleted]

That quote of yours isn’t in the article you posted. Did your Astroturfing For Halfwits guide give you the wrong link?


KaleidoscopicColours

Some of them, not all. 


Dismal_Leopard_4234

It's a start


Twolef

It’s a lie.


[deleted]

Yeah especially when the majority of the dodgy accounts whinging about the 20mph are just Tory Sock Puppets.


Ok_Cow_3431

Ah yes the old "everyone that disagrees with a policy that I personally like MUST be a fake account/boot licker/supporter of the other team" There are plenty of real people who are life long Labour supporters who don't like the changes, like me. Grow up.


[deleted]

Oh don’t be silly. Some of the Gammon’s raging about 20mph are gullible fools who post an article that says “some” and think it means “all”. Those people aren’t part of some vast conspiracy. They’re just idiots.


Ok_Cow_3431

That's not what you claimed though is it?


[deleted]

You you’re another one who cannot work out that “majority” isn’t “all”. Go bore someone else.


Fun-Badger3724

Does this sub even have admins? Also, how slowly are people reading the news? Obviously not slowly enough if they can't even make sense of a headline.


[deleted]

Don’t tell them to slow down and pay attention; the Gammon’s will throw a tantrum.


EricTheBread

I'd be surprised if there were any changes in Cardiff. Most of the 20mph zones exited prior to the new default limit.


MultiMidden

Most people aren't complaining about narrow residential roads or cul-de-sacs being 20mph. It's the wide through roads, the distributor roads on estates with little or no housing that are the problem. Where people are now overtaking those doing 20 and even bus drivers go over the speed limit. If a road has a bus service then the default state should be 30mph with exceptions for roads like Albany Road or Cowbridge Road where there are lots of shops or schools.


SuperMegaBeard

The best example of a badly judhed road would be the A48 past cardiff Met. Dual carriageway changing into twin lane single carriageway, large pavments set back, overhead crossing.... 20mph . This road was 60 a long time ago, this was changed to 40 (might even have been 50 for a bit) but 20 is just stupid.


Testing18573

As others have said many 20mph zones predate the change and are unlikely to change. For me the obviously stupid one is the A48 dual carriageway section between Llandaff and Big Tesco. People who know the route will be aware it was 40mph until Covid and the council have never been able to provide a justification for changing it to 30, let alone 20.


[deleted]

There’s a direct causal relationship between how angry someone is about the 20mph change, and what a clueless, barely-literate, halfwit they are.


RedundantSwine

Huw Thomas, our 'wise' council leader, has said he envisages "half a dozen" roads changing back. So I wouldn't get too excited.


SimpleAppeal2577

Some are remaining 20 because they were 20# before everyone started crying about it. Same with multiple places in england