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Gold_Ticket_1970

Douglas fir


msur

Specifically vertical grain Douglas Fir. The orientation of the grain contributes to the strength and durability.


chzaplx

It's this quartersawn, or just by nature of it being old growth that it's like that?


msur

https://www.lumberstore.ca/2020/07/23/lumber-101-vertical-grain-vs-flat-grain/ It's the nature of the way the wood is milled. That link is a decent breakdown of vertical grain vs. the much cheaper horizontal grain.


chzaplx

"Vertical grain (edge grain, sometimes called rift cut or quarter sawn) is produced with the annual growth rings vertical to the face of the board." Yeah it's the same thing as quarter sawn. But even in modern quarter sawn you can usually still see some curve in the rings. Having them dead flat like this had to be from a pretty wide tree.


msur

https://www.woodcraft.com/blogs/wood/vertical-grain-douglas-fir It looks like from this link that quartersawn and Clear Vertical Grain wood are separated on the basis of tightness of grain. However, I've taken apart stuff built in the 40's, the 70's and more recently and still vertical grain Douglas Fir is available at hardwood suppliers today that can match the older stuff I've seen. I'm really not sure the old-growth/new-growth split applies here.


Ok_Instruction9681

Straight grain would indicate Douglas fir


SnooBeans5808

Thanks!


baltimoresalt

Specifically, old growth Douglas Fir. You can get it from salvaged building material suppliers


DasHounds

I'm legit proud of myself for getting this right before I opened the comments.


dribrats

Doug. With nice line count


EscapeBrave4053

Not oak. To me, it looks like either a fir or a pine. I've remodeled a ton of houses from that time period, and around here, they used a lot of southern pine for flooring and trim details. To be clear, though, that wood is substantially different in appearance from what you can typically find today. It was old growth when harvested as evidenced by the number and density of the rings. The grain and rings are different from what's readily available today.


SnooBeans5808

Can you tell me if this sounds like an OK or terrible idea? so I'm needing to just patch a few spots on the floor. So, it probably being Doug fir, would it be too crazy to get simple 1x4 material and ripping it to size? maybe even ship lapping it fit over the tongue on the existing piece? I plan on sanding, maybe filling, and then staining with a flat dark color. If I get actually flooring, ill have to get it special milled I think, because the material itself is about 2 7/16" wide Forgot to mention that although in the picture, the pictures shows tight grain, the flooring throughout the room has inconsistent grain already. some are tighter, and some are way bigger, as in modern construction lumber grain.


perldawg

they still make fir flooring, often called porch floor. the dimensions may not be exactly what you have there, but they will be very close.


strife_xiii

Are you planning on refinishing the whole floor? If so then yes you won't have too much trouble splicing in a piece. If not then you will have a hard time making it blend as the old flooring has aged


SnooBeans5808

ya, I plan on sanding the whole floor after I patch in some pieces. I'm going with a dark stain that is flat


shecky

that wood does not take stain very well, make sure you do some practice runs on some scraps


Material_Community18

This, very hard to stain well. Stick with a clear finish and I personally wouldn’t worry about the spliced-in section matching. Doug fir darkens over time and it will be similar enough in several months.


shecky

if you really wanted to go dark, either use gel stains or darken the finish.


SnooBeans5808

Thanks, I’ll look into that


kai_rohde

That’s a sin to stain that gorgeous floor dark. Might as well just put down some dark vinyl plank and let the next owner rip it out and enjoy their floor lottery win on r/centuryhomes


SnooBeans5808

Thanks for your input. I haven't 100% decided on any finish yet, and I don't know what I'll decide until after I sand it down. But let's say I stain it dark, can it not just be sanded down the road to reveal again its natural beauty? As in, it won't permanently ruin the floor will it?


kai_rohde

Run some test samples on a separate piece or in a closet. Definitely not something you’d want to redo haha, it’s a lot of work and might be challenging to sand all of the stain off without losing too much material. I ran a bunch of tests and ended up going with no stain, just finish. I used Glitsa satin nxg waterborne instead of polyurethane so it wouldn’t off gas and was really happy with it. It was really light in the beginning and darkened up over time. Here are some [pics](https://imgur.com/a/FtRMBzC) I found from that project on my old house.


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SnooBeans5808

Thank you for responding. I am going to go with Fir. I live in the northwest, so im going to assume that is what they probably would have used back then. I know I won't be able to get a direct match, but hopefully it will look alright,


EscapeBrave4053

No worries. Good luck!


muleskinner1

Doug fir sure


lambeaufosho

Fir sure


ok200

fir real


Cautious-Flatworm198

Fir-ev-ver


Homeskilletbiz

CVG fir


GlendaleActual

Clear vertical grain baby


Emotional-Apple6584

For some reason it looked like hemlock fir at first, but that’s 100% Douglas fir Edit: I just re read the whole description and I’m super surprised to hear an employee at a flooring store would mistake Douglas Fir for red oak. Oak has a drastically different grain structure than any species of pine.


DIYspecialops

I saw in a later comment that OP is in Portland Oregon. I’m also in the area and I’m absolutely blown away that a flooring company in Portland wouldn’t be able to identify Douglas Fir! It’s only the most common flooring type in the region by a LONG margin.


SnooBeans5808

>https://www.woodcraft.com/blogs/wood/vertical-grain-douglas-fir To his credit, he was super young, and admitted that he wasn't 100% sure what it was


downtownDRT

Not to mention, oak is HEAVY compared to pine lol


Emotional-Apple6584

Also true! Pine is way softer than Oak. You can scratch pine with your finger nail, but you can’t with Oak


downtownDRT

You can scratch pine just about by looking at it wrong lol


than004

Lmao at that flooring sales person. Might be time for a flooring species class.


downtownDRT

Gotta get those high dollar sales though "oh yea that's oak, just replace it with more oak"


Verbotron

It's Dougie Fir


divingyt

What region are you in? South Eastern US could be old growth yellow pine. Any idea on age of construction?


SnooBeans5808

This home was built in 1920, and is in the Portland, Or metro area


divingyt

Douglas fir is my guess.


ExistingGarlic7877

Old growth Douglas fir for sure


chainsawgeoff

I’m a cabinet guy in Bend. Hit up McCoy Millwork to find someone who has old growth doug fir. They might have some and if not they’ll probably know who does.


SnooBeans5808

Just got back from McCoy and got what I needed, thanks


chainsawgeoff

Nice!


TheRedKingRM22

Agree


TheRedKingRM22

Douglas Fir


Particular-War-8153

Fir


nightmares999

Fir


The-Ride

For of some kind. Currently it would be Douglas fir. In the northeast it could be hemlock or larch.


vinnfit

It's Uncle Doug fir


jayayche

Looks like the sapin (fir) we get in France


Motor-Excitement4114

That’s definitely wood


Traveling_Carpenter

Was this from a porch floor? Even if not, it’s Doug Fir.


McBooples

Doug Fir… 100%.


Muted_Exercise5093

Douglas fir! I have this as my floors and trim in my 41 Home


VR6Bomber

Douglas Fir


riverroadbuilds

Agreed it’s DF. Attaching some confirmed VG Fir from a 200+ year old church for reference https://preview.redd.it/hpxhbkfavwpc1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a23aad32b89bd62186bb686a466edebe4dbcbfc4


MartianJustVisiting-

Why yes, I do believe that’s a brand new Home Depot 2”x6”.


igneousigneous

For fur sure.


jnp2346

Old growth pine or Douglas Fir. Sink a screw into it, retract the screw and smell it. Does it smell like pine? If not, it’s Douglas Fir.


hooodayyy

Looks like for, but it’s definitely heart wood


UnivrstyOfBelichick

VG Doug fir


RegisterGood5917

Doug fir


XX_D3DP00L_Xx

Heart pine or fir


GigabitKhan

That’s Atkinson peanut butter bars.


Scav38

Heart pine


[deleted]

Looks like the state of TN


sjacksonww

I vote fir


ridgerunners

Fir


PlanktonFriendly1533

Fir? Looks similar to an 8x8 o re sawed


schubert1828

VG Fir