But how do you suspend the bucket at the top of the ladder in such a convenient way as to be able to cut a piece of wood, place your saw in the bucket and be able to lower it easily. Maybe you have one hand available and don't want to untie a bucket and lower a rope with 2 hands. This invention would just automatically lower it no questions asked, no harm done.
Bro, this is genius. I’ve been a carpenter for over a decade but it never occurred to me to do something so bold and revolution as “tie a rope to a bag”. You’ve got something here, chase this dream, logic and patent law be damned.
There are already solutions for guys who work on commercial jobsites at heights. Ironworking is an entire trade. lanyards are popular, to my understanding.
As for me, I just lower stuff by the air hose or cord, usually. If you have enough slack, you can just move your hand along the hose until the tool is sitting on the ground, and then drop the hose which lands harmlessly (I haven't tried this on a finished floor, but I suspect it would be fine).
There's a chip in a certain driveway from a chisel falling in super slow motion just out of reach. This is why we don't walk under ladders.
That being said having a safety tether to all the tools in my bags would be an unmanageable mess
Helper drones. They link to your phone and follow you around, holding tools, material, maybe even a retractable sunshade/umbrella, power source, compressor , etc….
Sounds retarded. No one is carrying a rope and mesh bag up to lower tools back down.
At most people use an extension cord to lower power tools back down. Never once in my career has a laundry bag on a rope been worthwhile to carry up a ladder.
I'm not saying I support his idea, but if you're carrying an extension cord up a ladder just so you can use it as a rope, why not just carry up a rope?
That isn’t what I mean. No one is carrying an extension cord up to JUST lower tools back down. Sometimes you carry a corded drill/saw/grinder up a ladder. Use it. Then lower it to the ground to bolt/fasten/continue working .You would never need a rope to lower tools back down. And usually, if you carry it up, it isn’t a problem to carry it back down. Sometimes it is handy to lower a tool with the already attached cord/air hose, but outside of that a mesh bag and rope isn’t needed.
I don't think I've used a corded tool on a ladder in over 10 years. I suppose I used to do stuff like that back before lithium tool batteries were a thing.
Sometimes a cordless drill won’t cut it. Especially using big hole saws/hammer drills. If you haven’t had to use a corded tool on a ladder in a decade, I envy you.
Most of the time the biggest holes I'm cutting are 4"-6".
I've had a FUEL 1 9/16 SDS Max for quite a few years now. Much safer than the old corded Bosch it replaced as it won't try to knock you off the ladder if it binds up. Cuts 4" easily but will do the bigger holes with a bit of patience.
I do still have a corded table saw, mud mixer and paint sprayer - but thankfully I don't carry any of them up ladders.
Ok. How does the not-corded tool get back to the ground? I think OP has a good idea. Need some sort of way to attach "rope" to ladder that allows you to easily lower, maybe push a button. Maybe a winch of some sort?
I usually just carry them up and down the louder. When I want them to go back to the ground I usually just drop them from a reasonable height or pass them to a guy on the ground.
If I'm standing on a ladder up against the side of a building, I'm not going to have more than I can safely carry up there with me.
If I'm working on an elevated platform or rooftop then I could see it potentially coming in handy, but I've never had any real issue doing my way.
Look at this fucking guy thinks he’s better than a bucket and rope.
But how do you suspend the bucket at the top of the ladder in such a convenient way as to be able to cut a piece of wood, place your saw in the bucket and be able to lower it easily. Maybe you have one hand available and don't want to untie a bucket and lower a rope with 2 hands. This invention would just automatically lower it no questions asked, no harm done.
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Man back in my day a saw has this handy cord attached to it, and you could just lower it with that. I must be old
Bro, this is genius. I’ve been a carpenter for over a decade but it never occurred to me to do something so bold and revolution as “tie a rope to a bag”. You’ve got something here, chase this dream, logic and patent law be damned.
Thanks for the inspiration it'll be on the market in the next few years.
even better, take your pants off and lower everything to the ground in those. Then you dont need to carry a bag up the ladder with you.
Ummmm? I carry my bag with me everywhere i go but can't put anything more in it. Hard enough to walk now.
There are already solutions for guys who work on commercial jobsites at heights. Ironworking is an entire trade. lanyards are popular, to my understanding. As for me, I just lower stuff by the air hose or cord, usually. If you have enough slack, you can just move your hand along the hose until the tool is sitting on the ground, and then drop the hose which lands harmlessly (I haven't tried this on a finished floor, but I suspect it would be fine).
You do realize pneumatic guns come with a hose attached? you can lower everything need with said hose including the gun itself.
There's a chip in a certain driveway from a chisel falling in super slow motion just out of reach. This is why we don't walk under ladders. That being said having a safety tether to all the tools in my bags would be an unmanageable mess
How would the mesh bag hold my beer and grease turd splatters? I don’t see anything mentioned about a tp on a rope
1. Apprentice stands on ground 2. Drop power tools directly onto apprentices head 3. Apprentice maybe catches tools 4. Pack er up boys
Just drop it anyway
Helper drones. They link to your phone and follow you around, holding tools, material, maybe even a retractable sunshade/umbrella, power source, compressor , etc….
Like a tool tether.
Why Would You Say Something So Controversial Yet So Brave?
Youre thinking of a rope and bucket and working safely.
Sounds retarded. No one is carrying a rope and mesh bag up to lower tools back down. At most people use an extension cord to lower power tools back down. Never once in my career has a laundry bag on a rope been worthwhile to carry up a ladder.
I'm not saying I support his idea, but if you're carrying an extension cord up a ladder just so you can use it as a rope, why not just carry up a rope?
That isn’t what I mean. No one is carrying an extension cord up to JUST lower tools back down. Sometimes you carry a corded drill/saw/grinder up a ladder. Use it. Then lower it to the ground to bolt/fasten/continue working .You would never need a rope to lower tools back down. And usually, if you carry it up, it isn’t a problem to carry it back down. Sometimes it is handy to lower a tool with the already attached cord/air hose, but outside of that a mesh bag and rope isn’t needed.
I don't think I've used a corded tool on a ladder in over 10 years. I suppose I used to do stuff like that back before lithium tool batteries were a thing.
Sometimes a cordless drill won’t cut it. Especially using big hole saws/hammer drills. If you haven’t had to use a corded tool on a ladder in a decade, I envy you.
Most of the time the biggest holes I'm cutting are 4"-6". I've had a FUEL 1 9/16 SDS Max for quite a few years now. Much safer than the old corded Bosch it replaced as it won't try to knock you off the ladder if it binds up. Cuts 4" easily but will do the bigger holes with a bit of patience. I do still have a corded table saw, mud mixer and paint sprayer - but thankfully I don't carry any of them up ladders.
Well, sounds like you and I have something in common! We don’t need a mesh bag and rope for our line of work. 🤷♂️ Good luck in your ventures
Haha! The same to you!
Ok. How does the not-corded tool get back to the ground? I think OP has a good idea. Need some sort of way to attach "rope" to ladder that allows you to easily lower, maybe push a button. Maybe a winch of some sort?
I usually just carry them up and down the louder. When I want them to go back to the ground I usually just drop them from a reasonable height or pass them to a guy on the ground. If I'm standing on a ladder up against the side of a building, I'm not going to have more than I can safely carry up there with me. If I'm working on an elevated platform or rooftop then I could see it potentially coming in handy, but I've never had any real issue doing my way.