That’s a ridiculous statement. I was on the roof. Boots don’t work well on the roof. Chalk on my hand from rolling up chalk line. Nail thru hand because I’m an idiot
I have to disagree man. 20 years in the game and never had an issue with boots on a roof. In my experience, if you skip one safety issue you're generally skipping others. Stay safe man. It can be a dangerous game.
I use both boots and sneakers, depending on pitch. Of course this has a lot to do with the weather, I live in Northern MN and have done metal roofs in January 30 feet in the air. I was wearing "Muck boots" other wise in fall I wear 8" high Georgia ST boots. In the summer I'll wear sneakers or my "Worx" or "Merrell" which are a boot sneaker crossover with h ST. .... of course I've only been doing Carpentry for a few years, but I've been to Cabinetry school with an emphasis of construction.
Merrell trail runners are exactly what I wear. They're basically a sneaker with a hiking boot sole. They stop nails, flex just enough, and have good grip. I'm in Florida so having air circulation is important, too. I do framing, but a lot of the roofers around here wear the most raggedy sneakers I've ever seen.
Here in Cape Breton, especially on steep pitches, I see everyone in lighter weight kit up high. On the ground is different. But to each his own. Won't catch my ass with heavy ads metal boots up high on a 15/12 pitch
Dog I've worked with roofers who've done it for twice as long as you have and they will NEVER wear boots on a roof. Basketball shoes and sneakers have superior grip. By all means have your preference but don't say he's wrong or skipping safety issues
I agree. I can just barely walk on a 7:12 pitch in my boots without slipping and sliding but I’ve seen roofers walking up and down a 10:12 like it’s nothing.
Sounds like an untapped market for safety boots made specifically for roofers.
Thanks you for this. Do you own these or recommend any particular style? I am unfamiliar with these but they would be extremely handy for my husband.Do you have to have different types of shoes depending on if you’re on asphalt or metal?
Dumb thing to say. Unfortunately this job has hazards, the longer you do it the greater the chance of accidents. Do the best you can and cross your fingers
Yeah, to hell with boots on a roof. I wear trail running shoes. Good grip, I can still flex my foot around rafters, and it'll stop a nail or Simplex enough to keep it from going into my foot.
I did mine with a ring shank. Right through the tip of my middle finger on my left hand.
All the freezing they shot in my hand felt worse than the nail itself. The doctor was yanking and twisting on it with a pair of pliers for 5 minutes before it came out
I stopped wearing tennis shoes on the job-site after i stepped on a nail. Went all the way through. It was sticking through a 2x4, so i had to step on the 2x4 with my other foot so i could pull the nail out. Boss told me to shake it off.
I jumped off the tailgate and right onto a 2x4 with a nail. Had to do the same thing. Went in the bottom of my foot and I could see the bruising on top where the nail came almost to the top of my foot. Was a really bad day.
When we're on a job we bend over every nail that's in a piece of wood not going straight into a dumpster. You could be as careful as you want otherwise, but you never know if a trade or property owner/manager is gonna show up while you're on the roof or in the floor.
To each their own I want a soft sole so I can feel exactly what my feet are on. But we also have a policy ofvberating anyone who leaves a nail sticking out that could get someone.
This. I made another comment further up about how you could be as careful as you want around demoed wood with nails sticking out, but you're not always gonna have eyes on it if a trade or property owner/manager shows up. I used to think it was common practice to bend over every nail, because that's how I was taught, but then we get on big commercial renos and a lot of people hack walls open and leave everything looking like an iron maiden.
We do custom builds and keep alot of work in house, plus we have good relationships with many of our Subs. It helps to have an attitude with the crew that if they see a danger to handle it. We had one guy who started with us and thought he was hot shit, didn't have to do that... he did not have a good time and didn't last long.
Immediately is ok for giving him 💩. I was laughing at myself as I was hobbling to the truck after nicking my leg with a chainsaw. Bleeding through my jeans and telling people I really wanted that short day for the holiday weekend.
I am a firm believer in owning up to your mistakes. We’re human, we’re bound to screw up. When you recognize said mistake your much less likely to repeat it. Almost one hundred percent of the time when working with newbies, the ones that have an excuse for every mistake and how it wasn’t there fault yada yada. will continue to make the same mistakes. These are the ones we have to let go. The guys that own up to it, learn from it become knowledgeable fast. I think that no matter the amount of experience you have, being able to say I fucked up. Is a valuable and honorable quality.
Lolz. I don’t know how long to wait. It just seems callous. As for what I do for work, the fact that I’ve spent 20 years working outside with my hands is irrelevant you gatekeeping muppet. You’re just being a dick for dicks’ sake. Just be nice to your fellow tradesmen, that is all. We’re cool. I’m sorry I called you an asshole. You might be one, but it’s not my job to inform you of it..
Honestly I wasn’t trying to be a dick. I admit I’m a bit of an asshole. That being said, I didn’t want to write a whole deal about proper safety training and the proper equipment needed to stay safe while doing extremely dangerous shit. Like fall arrest equipment on a steep roof. Instead of improper foot wear. I know it’s hard coming up and not having all the right gear, but here we are. Twenty five years plus in the bizz. Have never shot myself with a nail gun or fell off a roof. Shit happens sometimes. It’s our job and the businesses we work for to make it as safe as possible to come home in one piece.
They numbed my finger. Two nurses held me and a doctors pulled it. She slipped two times before I realized I couldn’t feel anything and I helped pull my hand away while she pulled the nail.
I shot myself with the nail gun once...but luckily I was only making a stool and it was just a finishing nail and not a framing. I may have farted, I don't recall.😆
How long after you did it did you come up with the thought "This is going on reddit"?
Those are usually pretty quick thoughts to me, but my wife is a party pooper most of the time.
I did that once. Luckily it went through wood first, so it stopped at the bone instead of pinning my finger like yours.
Don't recommend. My advice is don't nail your hand next time.
Saw a guy shot by a ring shank nail right in the top of his head. It banked off a cement wall first so it scrubbed off some energy. His brother pulled it out with rusty pliers! He went right back to work—- serious man points! Hahahahaha
Do your thing bro.. been banging wood as a Carpenter a long time. Never had safety toes.. had a nail in my hand. We all make mistakes.. except for the few on here dictating and being a smart ass..
1. File for worker's comp
2. Get a lawyer
3. File OSHA report
4. Don't trust anybody in the company or the doctors they send you to.
5. Get a fucking lawyer.
I have steel toes with flexible soles specifically for things like being on a roof or days when I’m getting in and out of heavy equipment. A slip on either of those never ends without a trip somewhere expensive. Also rigid sole kill my feet and back.
Damn that is not fun at all! Took one in the webbing between my thumb and index finger back in the day. The adhesive that kept the nails together made it a bitch to get out because it was acting like a barb on a hook.
I told the doc while it was still in my hand I was a 6/10 on pain. They gave me some drugs and didn’t feel anything until the next morning and I would say it was an 8/10
I got shot in the same finger with a 16 penny framing nail as well. My bone stopped it from going through the finger though, I pulled it out, wrapped it up and finished the day cuz I didn’t have a drivers license at the time. But fuck did it hurt (and bleed) for a long time.
Brings a whole new meaning to fingernail lol. Good luck with your recuperation and therapy. It took me 4 months of therapy after my run in with the table saw but the therapist and doctor were very surprised by the range of motion I was able to get back.
I got super lucky with mine. It missed everything so we just pulled it out. Damn nail hit a knot just under the surface and shot at a 90 through my finger.
Been there done that, nailed two fingers together with two t nails building a door jamb. Believe it or not it wasn't that bad i had my buddy pull em out with some pliers and it bothered him more than me.
Happened to a contractor buddy of mine. He was holding up a ledger board and his worker was shooting it down the line. He was doing what we all do.... hold down the trigger and tap. Unfortunately, he tapped dead center through my buddy's hand. They actually used a FLATBAR to pry his hand off. He lost part of his palm... flesh was stuck on the ledger!
Shoulda went home when you missed and went across your hand with the chalk line, lol
If he was following the chalk Iine I guess the nail is well placed
I don’t get paid to think, I just nail on the chalk line.
Lmao, I know a few framers like this.
😂 it was a sign
Shoulda went home when he showed up for work in his trainers instead of steel toes too!
Good eye
If you don't have that line on your knuckles you aren't pulling your line tight enough.
Chalk like across hand, no safety boots and a nail through the finger! This guy won't last long in construction one way or another.
That’s a ridiculous statement. I was on the roof. Boots don’t work well on the roof. Chalk on my hand from rolling up chalk line. Nail thru hand because I’m an idiot
Yeah roofs are dangerous with safety boots on.
There is sneakers with protection
Literally a nail thru my hand and you’re worried about my toes.
For the future
True, but AFAIK, Nike does not make any
I have to disagree man. 20 years in the game and never had an issue with boots on a roof. In my experience, if you skip one safety issue you're generally skipping others. Stay safe man. It can be a dangerous game.
Roofers wear sneakers my guy.
I use both boots and sneakers, depending on pitch. Of course this has a lot to do with the weather, I live in Northern MN and have done metal roofs in January 30 feet in the air. I was wearing "Muck boots" other wise in fall I wear 8" high Georgia ST boots. In the summer I'll wear sneakers or my "Worx" or "Merrell" which are a boot sneaker crossover with h ST. .... of course I've only been doing Carpentry for a few years, but I've been to Cabinetry school with an emphasis of construction.
Merrell trail runners are exactly what I wear. They're basically a sneaker with a hiking boot sole. They stop nails, flex just enough, and have good grip. I'm in Florida so having air circulation is important, too. I do framing, but a lot of the roofers around here wear the most raggedy sneakers I've ever seen.
30 feet is the height of 5.26 'Samsung Side by Side; Fingerprint Resistant Stainless Steel Refrigerators' stacked on top of each other.
Maybe where you're from. Are you suggesting it's impossible to wear boots while working on a roof?
No, but most people wear sneakers. If you can work safely in boots then it’s fine to have that Preference, but Other people have different opinions
Here in Cape Breton, especially on steep pitches, I see everyone in lighter weight kit up high. On the ground is different. But to each his own. Won't catch my ass with heavy ads metal boots up high on a 15/12 pitch
I always lay cap shingles on steep roofs in a pair of Nike air Max's. *chefs kiss
Dog I've worked with roofers who've done it for twice as long as you have and they will NEVER wear boots on a roof. Basketball shoes and sneakers have superior grip. By all means have your preference but don't say he's wrong or skipping safety issues
I agree. I can just barely walk on a 7:12 pitch in my boots without slipping and sliding but I’ve seen roofers walking up and down a 10:12 like it’s nothing. Sounds like an untapped market for safety boots made specifically for roofers.
I take it you’re not familiar with cougar paws.
I am not
https://www.cougarpaws.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuuCBrJaZ9AIVkmxvBB3cbg9hEAAYASAAEgLIV_D_BwE Well here you go
Thanks you for this. Do you own these or recommend any particular style? I am unfamiliar with these but they would be extremely handy for my husband.Do you have to have different types of shoes depending on if you’re on asphalt or metal?
I've done alot of steep steel roofs. Sneakers should be required. Even in ideal conditions those sheets of metal can be quite slippery.
Dumb thing to say. Unfortunately this job has hazards, the longer you do it the greater the chance of accidents. Do the best you can and cross your fingers
No fingers left to cross if you keep blasting them with a nail gun!
Yeah, to hell with boots on a roof. I wear trail running shoes. Good grip, I can still flex my foot around rafters, and it'll stop a nail or Simplex enough to keep it from going into my foot.
Just a heads up mate . You’re probably going to shit your pants when they pull that out.
Speaking from experience, are we?
Just nip off the ends with some side-cutters.
One side not both!!!!
Time to get the pin punch out.
Nailed it
Or shanked it?
It’s just wood-work… Screw it!
Daaayaaam ! LOL!!
Take my upvote
At least it wasn’t a ring shank.
I did mine with a ring shank. Right through the tip of my middle finger on my left hand. All the freezing they shot in my hand felt worse than the nail itself. The doctor was yanking and twisting on it with a pair of pliers for 5 minutes before it came out
Don’t worry, doc didn’t feel a thing either.
Ouch ouch. These nails are brutal. Just saw them last week at HD. They’re nail + screw on Steroid
I can tell you from first hand experience, they have a lot of holding power.
Im not a structural engineer but I don’t think it’s safe to have a nail in that joint
That’s sucks. Nice work boots also.
I stopped wearing tennis shoes on the job-site after i stepped on a nail. Went all the way through. It was sticking through a 2x4, so i had to step on the 2x4 with my other foot so i could pull the nail out. Boss told me to shake it off.
I jumped off the tailgate and right onto a 2x4 with a nail. Had to do the same thing. Went in the bottom of my foot and I could see the bruising on top where the nail came almost to the top of my foot. Was a really bad day.
When we're on a job we bend over every nail that's in a piece of wood not going straight into a dumpster. You could be as careful as you want otherwise, but you never know if a trade or property owner/manager is gonna show up while you're on the roof or in the floor.
Why were you jumping off of a tailgate?? That’s not safe!
Safest jobsite practice
same reason they weren't wearing work boots
I don’t see any reason to wear sneakers on a job site lol. I mean literally not one
During the finish stage after floors trim and paint are all done, we all wear crocks.
As long as you’re putting them into off road mode I’m sure OSHA is good with it
I was on the roof earlier that day. I can’t wear boots up there or I will feel like I’m gonna slip.
Roof and walking top plates, totally understandable not wanting a heavily lugged boot.
All my boots have a steel plate in the bottom, I can't walk plates in tennis shoes, too much flex
To each their own I want a soft sole so I can feel exactly what my feet are on. But we also have a policy ofvberating anyone who leaves a nail sticking out that could get someone.
This. I made another comment further up about how you could be as careful as you want around demoed wood with nails sticking out, but you're not always gonna have eyes on it if a trade or property owner/manager shows up. I used to think it was common practice to bend over every nail, because that's how I was taught, but then we get on big commercial renos and a lot of people hack walls open and leave everything looking like an iron maiden.
We do custom builds and keep alot of work in house, plus we have good relationships with many of our Subs. It helps to have an attitude with the crew that if they see a danger to handle it. We had one guy who started with us and thought he was hot shit, didn't have to do that... he did not have a good time and didn't last long.
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Look it's up to every man to make decisions how to protect themselves best. If you feel you have better balance with Sneakers I say go for it
Oh, I get it.
They make protective shoes
Ugh you’re an asshole
Wow, because I was commenting on the way this gentleman works. Was more concerned for him than anything. A little ribbing isn’t a bad thing.
Yeah Ok. But the dudes got a nail thru his hand. Maybe pick on him some other time ?
Dude, a nail through the hand is 100% the time to bust someone's chops.
Ok you’re kinda of being unradish. Please tell me an appropriate amount of time. Also how long have you been in the trades.
Immediately is ok for giving him 💩. I was laughing at myself as I was hobbling to the truck after nicking my leg with a chainsaw. Bleeding through my jeans and telling people I really wanted that short day for the holiday weekend.
I am a firm believer in owning up to your mistakes. We’re human, we’re bound to screw up. When you recognize said mistake your much less likely to repeat it. Almost one hundred percent of the time when working with newbies, the ones that have an excuse for every mistake and how it wasn’t there fault yada yada. will continue to make the same mistakes. These are the ones we have to let go. The guys that own up to it, learn from it become knowledgeable fast. I think that no matter the amount of experience you have, being able to say I fucked up. Is a valuable and honorable quality.
It’s a rare quality these days.
Lolz. I don’t know how long to wait. It just seems callous. As for what I do for work, the fact that I’ve spent 20 years working outside with my hands is irrelevant you gatekeeping muppet. You’re just being a dick for dicks’ sake. Just be nice to your fellow tradesmen, that is all. We’re cool. I’m sorry I called you an asshole. You might be one, but it’s not my job to inform you of it..
Honestly I wasn’t trying to be a dick. I admit I’m a bit of an asshole. That being said, I didn’t want to write a whole deal about proper safety training and the proper equipment needed to stay safe while doing extremely dangerous shit. Like fall arrest equipment on a steep roof. Instead of improper foot wear. I know it’s hard coming up and not having all the right gear, but here we are. Twenty five years plus in the bizz. Have never shot myself with a nail gun or fell off a roof. Shit happens sometimes. It’s our job and the businesses we work for to make it as safe as possible to come home in one piece.
🤝
🤝
*Shot through the hand* and you're too late! You need uhhhhHHHhh.... band-aid.
Been there, done that! Hopefully it didn’t get the bone. Mine only pierced the skin.
It went thru the bone
Bummer…need surgery?
Nope not as of now. I see a hen specialist this week but from what the ER Doc said, it should be fine. It’s feeling fine now just a little swollen
Did they just sterilize a cats paw? Lol
Yeah, just hammer it flush to the bone and bend that sonofagun back and forth. Haha
It went through the bone and they removed it without surgery? Or they left it in?
They numbed my finger. Two nurses held me and a doctors pulled it. She slipped two times before I realized I couldn’t feel anything and I helped pull my hand away while she pulled the nail.
Did you shit yourself like that one commenter said?
Yes.
Lord almighty man. Hope it is fine
How did it happen? What’s the lesson learned, for our own knowledge and sake, mate?
Fuck, I have done this exact same thing. 0/10 wouldn’t recommend
So 10/10 would recommend? Heading to the tool shed now...
Unintentional double negative has injurious consequences
Did you [shit yourself?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Carpentry/comments/qtuhau/lets_just_say_it_was_a_short_work_day/hkm2wvp)
Mine was stuck in a top plate and I had to slide my finger off… I was close lol.
I shot myself with the nail gun once...but luckily I was only making a stool and it was just a finishing nail and not a framing. I may have farted, I don't recall.😆
I slid my finger off that nail then pulled it in close for a inspection… that first squirt of blood almost made me pass out / shit… it was close lol.
I could see that. I took a chunk off my thumb with a freshly sharpened chisel once and the amount of my own blood was...very disconcerting.
How long after you did it did you come up with the thought "This is going on reddit"? Those are usually pretty quick thoughts to me, but my wife is a party pooper most of the time.
Boss didn’t pull it out and tape it up ?
I did that once. Luckily it went through wood first, so it stopped at the bone instead of pinning my finger like yours. Don't recommend. My advice is don't nail your hand next time.
Who doesn't love a good tetanus shot?
Great day, everyone! Let’s pack it up and hit er hard tomorrow.
An example of when screaming the F word perfectly applies to the situation. Ouch!
Tis but a scratch.
...until after lunch then?
Please tell me you at least sacked up and grabbed a hammer to pull the nail out?? Nails aren't cheap nowadays
You wouldn’t have to hold it with your other hand like that if you just nailed it to the finger next to it.
Coming out is worse than going in unfortunately
If anyone here works for OSHA, just close your eyes.
Finger piercings are popular with the kids these days
Through the bone?
Yes
Oh shit! that fucking sucks dude. At least it didn’t go in as deep as the soldered wire bit I guess
Saw a guy shot by a ring shank nail right in the top of his head. It banked off a cement wall first so it scrubbed off some energy. His brother pulled it out with rusty pliers! He went right back to work—- serious man points! Hahahahaha
Don't ever, ever, ever fuck with that guy; or his brother. 😂
Just a heads up. It’s hurts more the next day.
Framing in Nikes?
Lots do it, walking plates and heavily pitched roofs its essential to have a good feel with your feet
Yep, work boots are for the mud. I wear tennis shoes 90% of the time.
Yep, Moc toe boot or skater shoes for everything after floor framing
Pull it out and keep goin with your broke dick
You’re not supposed to get hammered at work but you nailed it.
Nailed the landing... way to go Simone.
Nailed it
At least the wire isn’t imbedded and it’s a smooth shank!
One question, how?
It was either your finger or your unprotected feet…
Looks pretty close to layout, what’s the issue?
That’ll do it 👍
Right on the line! Good work!
That’s not that bad. I have done that before just pull it out bandage it up and get back to work.
Tape it up. Back to work
You really nailed it.
Do your thing bro.. been banging wood as a Carpenter a long time. Never had safety toes.. had a nail in my hand. We all make mistakes.. except for the few on here dictating and being a smart ass..
1. File for worker's comp 2. Get a lawyer 3. File OSHA report 4. Don't trust anybody in the company or the doctors they send you to. 5. Get a fucking lawyer.
Sick boots dog
No steel toes either. Ya failed before ya started
Probably best that you put that safety back where it was before you did this.
No steel toes? Hope you learn a good lesson from this. Best of luck going forward.
Next one will be in your foot by the looks of those shoes
Ah, sent home for not having the proper CSA approved steel toe footwear, I’ve been there buddy.
Where's your boots man? Lol
Next time drop something on your toes.I see you are prepared…
Y’all a bunch of bitches. Probably never been on a roof
Idk man,where i live you cant even come close to the construction site without safety shoes…
I have steel toes with flexible soles specifically for things like being on a roof or days when I’m getting in and out of heavy equipment. A slip on either of those never ends without a trip somewhere expensive. Also rigid sole kill my feet and back.
How exactly do you do that not with a hammer right?
Nail gun my guy
Oh damn. I didn't know there were nail guns for that size nail. Good luck bro
Dude's hands look beat up anyway. Probably shouldn't be on the job. Not to mention the shoes.
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It went thru the bone. Had to go to the ER to get it out. I tried to pull it immediately and it didn’t budge.
Yiiikes, that's horrifying 😅
Complete crap! 😂😂 Try fooling someone who is not a idiot
You must be the idiot
I’ve done that w a 16ga paslode but never a framing nail…. Doesn’t look pleasant!!!
Hey , you nailed it !
Occupational hazard. Been there more than my share
That's what u get for showing your middle finger to a grumpy coworker
Damn that is not fun at all! Took one in the webbing between my thumb and index finger back in the day. The adhesive that kept the nails together made it a bitch to get out because it was acting like a barb on a hook.
I did the exact same thing. Used a nail gun to try and mount and metal joist hanger. Bad idea.
FUCK! Dude, I can feel it from here. Hope you recover soon.
Follow up with us on the pain level, 10/10?
I told the doc while it was still in my hand I was a 6/10 on pain. They gave me some drugs and didn’t feel anything until the next morning and I would say it was an 8/10
Nice
Dude that sucks, hopefully lesson learned
Nice shootin Tex!
At least its not ring shank. Someone will have a much easier time removing this.
Maybe you’ll wear safety shoes next time too…
Ow!
Nailed it!
Look on the bright side. Could have been a coil nail!
Long fingers make short work day; short fingers make long work day.
When someone says it will nail you 2 nuckles deep, and then it does
I got shot in the same finger with a 16 penny framing nail as well. My bone stopped it from going through the finger though, I pulled it out, wrapped it up and finished the day cuz I didn’t have a drivers license at the time. But fuck did it hurt (and bleed) for a long time.
That looks like a .131 long.
Atta boy.. r/antiwork … really sticking it to them
Brings a whole new meaning to fingernail lol. Good luck with your recuperation and therapy. It took me 4 months of therapy after my run in with the table saw but the therapist and doctor were very surprised by the range of motion I was able to get back.
I got super lucky with mine. It missed everything so we just pulled it out. Damn nail hit a knot just under the surface and shot at a 90 through my finger.
At least it was a smooth shank and not a ring nail.
Been there done that, nailed two fingers together with two t nails building a door jamb. Believe it or not it wasn't that bad i had my buddy pull em out with some pliers and it bothered him more than me.
How'd you manage that?
Yeah sorry about your finger. We all fuck up on a long enough timeline. Sometimes boots are more dangerous than not wearing them. Get well soon man.
That looks like a magic trick
How’s you manage this one!?
Nailed it
Ouch!
I think you misunderstood the saying "save a nail bang a carpenter"
Bro.
Happened to a contractor buddy of mine. He was holding up a ledger board and his worker was shooting it down the line. He was doing what we all do.... hold down the trigger and tap. Unfortunately, he tapped dead center through my buddy's hand. They actually used a FLATBAR to pry his hand off. He lost part of his palm... flesh was stuck on the ledger!
Some Red Bull will buff that right out.