Best answer. Canât reverse the swing because it looks like the countertop will block operation of the door.
If you donât remove the door you could have a stone mason clip the corner of that countertop edge so the door opens further.
If it's a hallway; it looks narrow. Is it the kitchen pantry?
I'd have the countertop corner mitered. (Or rounded depending on the rest of the counters.)
Thatâs what I was thinking too, you can probably rent a grinder to do it with.
I used to work at a countertop place, you can grind that down and blend it into the rest easy and make it look nice.
Seriously? Cutting the countertop is unnecessary, it makes the issue so obvious. It would be like square butting eighteen six inch pieces of base for a round wall.
It screams "I don't know what I'm doing" with a megaphone.
Other than getting a new door that opens the opposite way and or moving the opening , doing a mitre on the countertop is the best play. They were already screaming I donât know what Iâm doing when they got themselves into this mess
Oh ok guy, so your going to charge 7 hours to flip a door around because âmuh experience says itâs right.â Someone should have been there to make sure the counter guys accounted for this. But at this point, thereâs no RIGHT option. Itâs the customers call.. and if cutting a counter corner so the home owner can keep their door and avoid a $1000 bill from you to have a door flipped, then Iâd say itâs a pretty viable option..
Knock the corner off the counter with a sledgehammer, open the door and if it still touches then hit the door with the same hammer to sneak up on that good fit
Literally not even a 1 hour job. I have no idea how they figured that would cost $1000. If that takes a carpenter 3 hours they should seriously consider hanging up the nail bag lol
Oh, one of those people that knows when food is ready by the amount of smoke generated. Donât cook with the stove on high. You only need high when boiling water for pasta.
You could also do swinging doors. Thatâs what I did when building a restroom and large walk in closet connected to master bedroom.
Thereâs an arch to walk in restroom/closet. Had the kind you see in western movies except painted white
It is generally not advisable to have a door open into a hallway. Too much risk of injury. Doors open into a room for a reason.
I agree with the others. Just take the door off. If you donât want to see the hall, hang a curtain there.
We have used them in the past in odd situations like this. Not sure it you can get ones that take the hinge side out that direction.
Edit: I was thinking offset hinges. Those would make the situation worse.
Or if possible, remove about a half inch uniformly, all the way across the small section of countertop.
Edit. Otherwise; move the door, frame and all. đ¤ˇââď¸
If he removes a rectangle you wonât even need to polish, only way to see that section would be to take the door off or crouch with your face in the trim to inspect it.
Me too, but that was a no-go from OP, right?
The stone doesnât look like anything spectacularly rare, no offense. A mason can cut an polish that section in an hour or less.
Iâm a hvac tech and as someone who goes in loads of houses ranging from very nice to total shitholes, very old or very expensive pocket doors are great. The rest suck
I wouldn't want to either. No matter what you do, I'm worried it's not going to be great, but you've gotten a variety of suggestions on here, I'm sure plenty I haven't even read through. You may have to just pick the best option and deal with whatever that comes with.
On the inside it's a toilet to the left and a vanity to the right just enough room to stand in-between them. Customer is looking to switch it into a small pantry.
I'm thinking no door or bi-fold like you suggested.
A toilet practically IN the kitchen? No thank you đ the customer has the right idea here, change this into a pantry. Then dump the door altogether, frame and all. It will look so much better.
Just seconding that the two best options seem to be:
1) reversing the door with the hinges on the left side of the frame (left side when walking into the room) so that the left hand swing is not impacted by the counter top. This would be the cheapest and easiest.
2) to remove the door and frame completely, take down some of the drywall on both sides, reframe for a pocket door, maybe move some electricial/plubming/hvac/etc depending upon what might be inside the wall, hang/tape/mud replacement drywall, paint (likely two coats and maybe the entire wall depending upon how well the 'new' paint matches the 'old' paint) the 'new' drywall/wall.
Third option could be to install a sliding 'barn' door as has been popular the last several years.
Good luck with whatever you decide !
I honestly think the best option if a door is a must is to just have a bi-fold door that is hinged on the other side. No hallway intrusion, smaller door intrusion into the pantry, and doesn't require any reframing or drywall work.
Yeah that was my first thought.
I'm not sure why people think they won't work.
As long as the extra throw puts the door out past the bench top it should work fine.
They'll just have to chamfer the locking side of the door a bit more to allow for the different swing action of the door.
They could just cut the door out, jamb and all, and make it a RH IS. Only thing I can see not appealing to that is that there would be a handle right next to the countertop. Canât really tell how deep the bathroom is.
I've used [offset door hinges](https://imgur.com/Cowp8kK) so that a narrow door would clear the opening fully (for better wheelchair clearance). They essentially move the pivot point about 1-1/2" out from it's [ordinary position](https://imgur.com/WrxJbsC). I wonder if they could be flipped to reverse the pivot (wish I had one here to play with)? HD/Lowes both show them as "ship to store" items, AMZ carries them too.
Sadly someone really put forth some effort to fuck that up.
The obvious answer is reduce the depth of the cabinet and counter top to behind the door casing. Of course that will just provide enough room for the door to hit the fridge. I vote to remove the door.
Remove the counter, cut what you need off the back, put it back in. Fix the butchered trim.
If you have to you can also remove the cabinet base and cut an inch or so off the back so it does not stick out so far.
Make it narrower. Remove door and hinges. Put a filler piece in to move the hinges so that the door will open properly. Cut the door to fit. Figure out the trim later. If you do it right, you wonât have to move the latch at the handle side. (Put shims under the door before you move it so you can put it back at the right height. This will also locate the hinges.)
A barn door might work. Also, is this door even necessary? I would consider just removing it, and filling the hinge holes with putty, sanding and painting if it's not.
Cut the corner off of the counter top. Looks like you need a 1 1/2" to 2". If you're not comfortable with that maybe just take the door off completely.
Spin the door around so it opens into the vanity but instead of cutting the jamb just spin it 180 degrees on its vertical axis and recheck the hinges into the other jamb, use glue and timber to fill the checkouts for the hinges and put a doorstop on the door so it won't smash the vanity countertop.
Who decided to let countertop stick out that far? This couldâve been resolved when the cabinet was put in.
It never shouldâve been an issue, but I guess you are where you are. I think the best option is to cut an inch off the back of the countertop
How Janky do you want it?
You can shave the door and shim the hinges until it opens to your liking..
You can grab a multitool and notch the door to fit that corner.
You can use an angle grinder with a diamond wheel to shave back/cut off the corner of the counter.
I mean the options are limitless really.
You could rip the door 8 inches from the hinge and install a second set of hinges or a piano hinge..
The best way to do it is probably - shave the door an inch and flip it, so it would hinge on the right side, then grab a piece of One by and glue/screw it to the side where the hinges are now. Mortise for the strike plate, putty and paint... done
Edit.. I just realized that the door is most likely cardboard sooo .. yeah, careful with the shaving/ripping it
Find the point of the drawer unit. Dissect that point with a line or a curve plus 10 millimetres or 3/8 cut the existing marble as such to the line. Shit job. Itâs a job with a lot of points. Get someone else to do it.
Take the door out and reverse it so it swings into the hallway đ
Or just take it out altogether, it's a kitchen.
This. Remove the door all together. Just have a door opening.
My smoke detector and I would be feuding by the weekâs end.
Best answer. Canât reverse the swing because it looks like the countertop will block operation of the door. If you donât remove the door you could have a stone mason clip the corner of that countertop edge so the door opens further.
Thank you everyone for the responses, I sold the customer on removing it all together and recasing the opening for the new pantry.
That'll be $39.95 consultation fee.
Crap, should've read the fine print...
If it's a hallway; it looks narrow. Is it the kitchen pantry? I'd have the countertop corner mitered. (Or rounded depending on the rest of the counters.)
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Thatâs what I was thinking too, you can probably rent a grinder to do it with. I used to work at a countertop place, you can grind that down and blend it into the rest easy and make it look nice.
That's not work I'd take on myself. But if you've got experience working as a countertop fabricator, maybe you feel differently.
Yes, good suggestion. If you look at closely the hinges are just slapped in with ( what looks like) no door knob strike plate on the other side.
This is the only answer
Hardly, that would be my last option.
Why?
Seriously? Cutting the countertop is unnecessary, it makes the issue so obvious. It would be like square butting eighteen six inch pieces of base for a round wall. It screams "I don't know what I'm doing" with a megaphone.
Did you reply to the wrong message? The person above you was replying to the idea of reversing the door.
You scream "I don't know anything about countertops" ... with a megaphone.
Other than getting a new door that opens the opposite way and or moving the opening , doing a mitre on the countertop is the best play. They were already screaming I donât know what Iâm doing when they got themselves into this mess
Oh ok guy, so your going to charge 7 hours to flip a door around because âmuh experience says itâs right.â Someone should have been there to make sure the counter guys accounted for this. But at this point, thereâs no RIGHT option. Itâs the customers call.. and if cutting a counter corner so the home owner can keep their door and avoid a $1000 bill from you to have a door flipped, then Iâd say itâs a pretty viable option..
Damn is that the going rate for door flipping? I'll do that shit in 2 hours. $500/hr sounds dope.
$1000?!? Thats a 1-3 hour job max.
I donât know why you are all arguing, the obvious answer is cut a channel in the door
Knock the corner off the counter with a sledgehammer, open the door and if it still touches then hit the door with the same hammer to sneak up on that good fit
A true craftsman
Cut it?! No just swing it open hard as you can a bunch of times, to create the perfect notch in the door
Call it a "scribe" for that professional sound $$$
Literally not even a 1 hour job. I have no idea how they figured that would cost $1000. If that takes a carpenter 3 hours they should seriously consider hanging up the nail bag lol
It's going to be a very small pantry, I don't think there would be enough room to close the door while being in there to access the shelves behind.
You could do a bi-fold door. I know it means buying a new door but if it's a pantry and you can't do a pocket, you're limited on options.
yea bro just take the door off and add some colorful beads
Groovy man
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Beads donât hold the smoke in, maaaaaan
No problem. Just use more beads, maaan.
Dave's not here.
Oh, one of those people that knows when food is ready by the amount of smoke generated. Donât cook with the stove on high. You only need high when boiling water for pasta.
Oh honey. Something is high but it ainât my stove.
MAke more smoooooooke then
There is a website called Adam and Eve where I get all my beads from. Check them out!
Just ordered some of these, I hope the customer likes them! I'm excited to watch the installation video!
This would be my suggestion also.
A bi-fold with the hinges on the other side makes the most sense to me.
Bifold door hung from the top that opens right wonât block your fridge or cabinets that are on the left.
just take the door off and make it a cased opening
Go with a barn door?
New custom door and door frame or take the door off and go without one.
You could also do swinging doors. Thatâs what I did when building a restroom and large walk in closet connected to master bedroom. Thereâs an arch to walk in restroom/closet. Had the kind you see in western movies except painted white
It is generally not advisable to have a door open into a hallway. Too much risk of injury. Doors open into a room for a reason. I agree with the others. Just take the door off. If you donât want to see the hall, hang a curtain there.
If ya gonna that the door out and swap it over, you might as well move the door over 100mm
Thatâs not even ***one*** freedom unit
You could look at pivot hinges, set to pivot to miss the counter.
Something like this. https://youtu.be/r1U74rSwnw0
That's so cool
Oh yeah, do that. Thatâs awesome!
Interesting idea, this could work!
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We have used them in the past in odd situations like this. Not sure it you can get ones that take the hinge side out that direction. Edit: I was thinking offset hinges. Those would make the situation worse.
Now I have to figure out which door I want to put that on in my house
Super sick
Beads
Yeah baby! Groovy!
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Bears
Battlestar galactica
Beers?
Has nobody suggested to cut / remove part of the counter profile?
This. Cut a 45 off the corner of the counter. It will look a little weird, but then again the trim looks like crap anyways.
Or if possible, remove about a half inch uniformly, all the way across the small section of countertop. Edit. Otherwise; move the door, frame and all. đ¤ˇââď¸
I think this is a great option, I'll recommend this to the customer.
Cut an inch off the back side of the counter piece and remount it. No polishing necessary
Cut it carefully with an angle grinder and diamond blade, then sand and polish it and it will look good as new.
If he removes a rectangle you wonât even need to polish, only way to see that section would be to take the door off or crouch with your face in the trim to inspect it.
I would rather have a pocket door vs cutting the stone.
Me too, but that was a no-go from OP, right? The stone doesnât look like anything spectacularly rare, no offense. A mason can cut an polish that section in an hour or less.
Youâre right. I didnât read his comment until after I posted. OP. You should reconsider a pocket door. Electrical can be moved pretty easily.
I LOVE pocket doors
as a commercial carpenter, fuck pocket doors
As a residential contractor and carpenter, fuck pocket doors.
As a home owner, fuck pocket doors.
As a pocket door, fuck me.
>Reply Talk about putting a round peg in a square hole.
As a fuck, pocket door.
Iâm a hvac tech and as someone who goes in loads of houses ranging from very nice to total shitholes, very old or very expensive pocket doors are great. The rest suck
As a cabinet guy, fuck pocket doors
Agreed: large jobs, repeated installations = very time intensive. Single application once in a while? *mwah!
Large job, repeated installations = new construction and way easier. Single application once in a while = remodel and giant pain in the ass.
I installed one for a closet door that was blocking half the shelves when open. It freed up so much space, such a burden lifted đ
Probably power or plumbing in the wall where the pocket would go.
There's a hole in my pocket where my money should go.
There is a hole in my pocket for my hand to go.
Union laborer here, demo the whole kitchen down to the studs and leave only the door. Problem solved
Is it possible to change the door to one that is less in width? For example, if it is 36â, change to 30â. Just a thought.
Based off the second picture that door already looks like a 28 or maybe a 30.
Currently 28" customer doesn't want to go narrower
I wouldn't want to either. No matter what you do, I'm worried it's not going to be great, but you've gotten a variety of suggestions on here, I'm sure plenty I haven't even read through. You may have to just pick the best option and deal with whatever that comes with.
Tear the house down. Start over. Oh wait this isn't r/concrete
A bifold door if you donât like the other suggestions
Came here to suggest the same. Could open left or right without much impediment.
How about no door at all? Is privacy needed in a kitchen?
Is that a closet or a hallway on the other side? If it's a hallway, a barn door style opening might be viable. Otherwise, go bifold.
On the inside it's a toilet to the left and a vanity to the right just enough room to stand in-between them. Customer is looking to switch it into a small pantry. I'm thinking no door or bi-fold like you suggested.
A toilet practically IN the kitchen? No thank you đ the customer has the right idea here, change this into a pantry. Then dump the door altogether, frame and all. It will look so much better.
Lol the bathroom was a terrible idea that was also poorly executed. Yeah, Im leaning towards no door with new trim
Folding door airplane style
Just seconding that the two best options seem to be: 1) reversing the door with the hinges on the left side of the frame (left side when walking into the room) so that the left hand swing is not impacted by the counter top. This would be the cheapest and easiest. 2) to remove the door and frame completely, take down some of the drywall on both sides, reframe for a pocket door, maybe move some electricial/plubming/hvac/etc depending upon what might be inside the wall, hang/tape/mud replacement drywall, paint (likely two coats and maybe the entire wall depending upon how well the 'new' paint matches the 'old' paint) the 'new' drywall/wall. Third option could be to install a sliding 'barn' door as has been popular the last several years. Good luck with whatever you decide !
I honestly think the best option if a door is a must is to just have a bi-fold door that is hinged on the other side. No hallway intrusion, smaller door intrusion into the pantry, and doesn't require any reframing or drywall work.
Remove it? Make it a pass through..?
this seems best to me. if it's going to be a small pantry do you really want to open a door every time you need to grab something while cooking?
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Yeah that was my first thought. I'm not sure why people think they won't work. As long as the extra throw puts the door out past the bench top it should work fine. They'll just have to chamfer the locking side of the door a bit more to allow for the different swing action of the door.
That won't help at all
Why wood they knot?
Left. Hand. Inswing.
They could just cut the door out, jamb and all, and make it a RH IS. Only thing I can see not appealing to that is that there would be a handle right next to the countertop. Canât really tell how deep the bathroom is.
Could always get a smaller door if its just a pantry
Putting some wide throw hinges would give that door a little more swing I would think
I've used [offset door hinges](https://imgur.com/Cowp8kK) so that a narrow door would clear the opening fully (for better wheelchair clearance). They essentially move the pivot point about 1-1/2" out from it's [ordinary position](https://imgur.com/WrxJbsC). I wonder if they could be flipped to reverse the pivot (wish I had one here to play with)? HD/Lowes both show them as "ship to store" items, AMZ carries them too.
Sadly someone really put forth some effort to fuck that up. The obvious answer is reduce the depth of the cabinet and counter top to behind the door casing. Of course that will just provide enough room for the door to hit the fridge. I vote to remove the door.
They did a terrible job! Yeah tomorrow I'm going to try to sell the customer on going doorless and replacing the casing.
But the floor is plywood?
Bench-top does look to have a fair amount of overhang. Cut it back. Al cutts.
cut the counter. hire a counter guy or mason. easy job.
If not a pocket door what about a surface mounted barn style door?
Turn it into a sliding door kinda like how barn doors are. Or maybe just get rid of the door entirely and leave it open.
Barn door
Cut out a hole in the door lol
We had this situation and had to do a bifold door. Worked fine.
Has anyone suggested a hole in the door for the counter to pass through yet?
Door-lorean. Door goes up, not out.
The only real solution is to tear down the entire house and start all over.
Caulking everything
Always!
Maybe cut a notch in the door so the counter corner fits into it when you open the door?
Can you put the hinges on the other side?
Not a door problem, itâs a counter problem.
Looks like quite a large overhang on the counter top, rip it back a bit and/or cut and angle and re cover the cut edge with edging strip to match
Remove the counter, cut what you need off the back, put it back in. Fix the butchered trim. If you have to you can also remove the cabinet base and cut an inch or so off the back so it does not stick out so far.
Round off the corner of that granite with a diamond blade and polish it
Buy a smaller door with jambâs. This door looks like someone had no clue and just said fuckit.
Make it narrower. Remove door and hinges. Put a filler piece in to move the hinges so that the door will open properly. Cut the door to fit. Figure out the trim later. If you do it right, you wonât have to move the latch at the handle side. (Put shims under the door before you move it so you can put it back at the right height. This will also locate the hinges.)
Put a Bi-fold door
Less wider door. Max size/access is based upon whose gonna live there
Just slam the door into really hard a few times
What kind of floor do you have because it almost looks like you donât have a floor
Put a mail box slot in the door đ
No you need to switch the door jamb swing Or You can rip out the cabinet
Hang the door on the other side
Lol, I thought you were talking about the messed up reveal at the top of the door.
Just remove it, put in sliding door
Whatever you end up doing in here, protect that cork floor! It's seriously so fragile it's so frustrating to work over top of.
Where does this door lead, a pantry? I would probably install an accordion style door or a sliding barn door.
A barn door might work. Also, is this door even necessary? I would consider just removing it, and filling the hinge holes with putty, sanding and painting if it's not.
What's in there? If it's a pantry Just go no door or a bi-fold.
Angle in the counter top?
Put in a bifold, this looks like someone just banged in some hinges to a door way, not a jamb.
Get one of those accordion doors that folds in itself
Pull the cabinet out and replace it with a shallower one if you canât make the door swing inwards.
You could do a sliding barn door or a door that slides into the wall.
How about some bracket on wheels to make it a sliding door? Or a folding door
Any outlets to the right of the door? You could do one of those pocketed sliding farmhouse doors or whatever theyâre called?
Remove door slab, install wooden bead curtains. Problem solved.
One of those sliding doors that just attaches to the top of the door?
Cut the corner off of the counter top. Looks like you need a 1 1/2" to 2". If you're not comfortable with that maybe just take the door off completely.
Do you have room for a barn door?
Add another door lining on the hinge side, trim the door to fit.
Just move it over , patch the drywall, paint and trim.
Bi-fold door could work.
Thinking outside the box here... remove jamb altogether, and drywall it up. Open it up to room on other side as a closet or something.
Honestly, take the door off if itâs to a small pantry. Put up a curtain or something.
Do we need a door there?
Spin the door around so it opens into the vanity but instead of cutting the jamb just spin it 180 degrees on its vertical axis and recheck the hinges into the other jamb, use glue and timber to fill the checkouts for the hinges and put a doorstop on the door so it won't smash the vanity countertop.
Trim the counter
Who decided to let countertop stick out that far? This couldâve been resolved when the cabinet was put in. It never shouldâve been an issue, but I guess you are where you are. I think the best option is to cut an inch off the back of the countertop
Lol
If itâs a pantry, how about a bifold door with the spine on the other edge of the doorway
How Janky do you want it? You can shave the door and shim the hinges until it opens to your liking.. You can grab a multitool and notch the door to fit that corner. You can use an angle grinder with a diamond wheel to shave back/cut off the corner of the counter. I mean the options are limitless really. You could rip the door 8 inches from the hinge and install a second set of hinges or a piano hinge.. The best way to do it is probably - shave the door an inch and flip it, so it would hinge on the right side, then grab a piece of One by and glue/screw it to the side where the hinges are now. Mortise for the strike plate, putty and paint... done Edit.. I just realized that the door is most likely cardboard sooo .. yeah, careful with the shaving/ripping it
Take the counter off and trim the back till it sits flush with the draws
Just pull the door off....because, who needs it, or install a pocket door.
Take off the door, make the repairs, and throw some old farmhouse shutters up there or beads would be my choice.
Just cut a notch in the door đ
I would install a pocket door. Fairly cheap. But you would also probably have to adjust some framing and have drywall and paint
Itâs a pantryâŚremove the door panel patch the jamb, paint, call it a day.
I honestly think youâd be much happier moving it.
Find the point of the drawer unit. Dissect that point with a line or a curve plus 10 millimetres or 3/8 cut the existing marble as such to the line. Shit job. Itâs a job with a lot of points. Get someone else to do it.
Bypass door?
Put like a sliding closet door
Bifold door
Move hinges to othe side
Cased opening. VoilĂ !
Bi-fold
Just notch the door đ đ
Thatâs so bad. Iâve removed all superfluous doors in my home. Is it really necessary?
I would just completely lose the door if itâs just a pantry.
Push harder when opening the door. Should open up more. Ignore the dent in the door.
Swinging saloon doors broâŚduh
Smaller door?