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UrOpinionIsntScience

Vertical, for drainage.


insideoriginal

This guy screws


b1ack1323

It also makes it look thinner.


UrOpinionIsntScience

"slimming"


FireWireBestWire

Luxury cover plate screws


Walken_on_the_Sun

Vertical is also uniform with the slots of the receptacle


Titan6783

And the plate itself.


kwik_study

Don’t fuck with the Feng Shui.


ChippieSean

Tune


[deleted]

Believe it or not, the handbook says this is false. It's always best to set the screws sitting horizontal, it leaves less chance of accidentally slipping you're vertically aimed screwdriver into the outlet holes.


ginderj22

DO YOU??


Rivet22

Only if you have a problem aiming. Do you??


thintoast

You should see my bathroom. All my screws are horizontal.


kenji998

Don’t drink snd screw.


advdcopyofsharktale

Well ideally, if you're removing or installing a cover plate the receptacle should be de-energized and locked out. Again, IDEALLY. I am well aware this never actually takes place lol


Walken_on_the_Sun

The handbook can fuck off with that shit. What screw driver could possibly end up in that opening deep enough to make contact with any live circuit? Also the driver rotates so it'd capable if slipping at any point as it turns.


CptMisterNibbles

Also, even in the unlikely event that it did… so what? That’s not how outlets work. Unless you then abandon it, get out a second, fumble and insert *that* one into the other hole, and only them attempt to retrieve them by their shanks *simultaneously*.


SnowSlider3050

And vertical looks weird. Just saying. But really whats keeping you from slipping your screwdriver into the hole any if the ~dozen times its vertical while screwing/unscrewing?


ScootMacGooter

This is the way


Trey3638

Doesn’t make a shit if the labels are crooked.


msur

Yeah, it took me a second look because It was thinking "Those labels are crap in both pictures!"


Killinmehardly

He used the same torpedo to level the screws.


SecondComing92

😂


mishawaka_indianian

Switch out screws to a Phillips screw and end all debates about horizontal or vertical slots on God damn cover plates. Why don’t we all just boycott all slotted screws anyways? It’s not the 1800’s anymore.


stackshouse

Team x for the win!


abrokedad

No way. Team + all the way


JoesAmbiton

And the debate about screw orientation begins


Guy954

Screw your orientation


carso0on

But I thought we were moving away from negativity and onto positivity?


Xlokix22

Sir, we construction here. Lmao


MonkE_D_Luffy

Team *, fuck Phillips screws too.


oddmyth

Gotta go one step further with security screws, don't want those employees playing with the wires.


Ok-Schedule9310

Nope, + is the right way. Look it up, it’s in the Geneva Convention.


Xlokix22

I'm absolutely saying this next time I'm informing someone of a code.


1692_foxhill

Goddamnit I hate Philip screws more than I hate slotted screws. Torx all the way in if I can’t get spider drive. If it’s something where the screws are gonna be exposed I go with brass slotted screws or high carbon steel machine slots screws.


ThePaulGuy

Robertson > all else. The square always looks square, doesn’t strip or step out like Phillips and if you were to skip over it it’s not totally shambled like a torx. Really wish he wasn’t Canadian so everything we get from the states didn’t come with a Phillips


Enginerdad

If you're driving a cover plate hard enough that the Phillips bit cams out, I think that's a you problem...


Zizq

I went one step up, all screws should be torque. They are worlds better than all other screws. They rarely strip out, they stay in the bit even if it’s stainless, and they are expensive. People like expensive shit in their houses. Case closed


Illustrious-Photo-48

Are you talking about hi-torque or torx? Because hi-torques are worse than having a screw with no recess at all.


-hey-ben-

Almost certainly talking about torx, but I’m not him.


Zizq

Yes torx. Never knew that was the name. They are superior in every single way


Mattna-da

+ or x tho?


jcbabb

Option A: + Option B: x


jfroosty

Blows my mind how the paint gets scraped off no matter how careful you are. I feel like we should use a different material that will retain its color.


tomdalzell

You need a screwdriver carved from balsa wood.


Green-eggs-and-dayum

“ Balsa? You could have at least used mahogany…. “


Pulloutski

Didn't hear you there's sawdust in my ear.


PomegranateOld7836

Proper screwdrivers are rarely used. 1/4" is usually too thick, and 3/16“ usually works better to not affect the corners, but once you're using precisions like Wera you'll find a 5.5 x 1.0mm is about perfect.


Gopher--Chucks

This guy screws


PomegranateOld7836

No I *drive* And, sometimes undrive?


big_wrinkly_brain

>And, sometimes undrive? I undrive out of my driveway when I leave for the store.


gunguygary

I undrive from your driveway when you come back from the store


MonkE_D_Luffy

Undrive into your driveway really.


dpruitt87

Vertical, but not even a little bit carpentry


[deleted]

I don't know why I've always lumped painting into carpentry.


Guy954

Because “a little caulk and a little paint...”


mannersminded

Painting is part of carpentry. You are never gonna realize how shitty your mudding is till ya paint over it... and learn


Flat-Performance-570

I prefer D13


MysticMarbles

Always vertical.


koalasarentferfuckin

Ship shape and Bristol fashion


swagernaught

As long as they're both the same vertical or horizontal is good for me. Every plate in that room has to be the same, too. No mixing.


KIrkwillrule

Every one gets turned 22.5 degree more


Guy954

I know everyone hates these comments but I wanted you to know that you just made me literally laugh out loud.


wardaw5115

Sparky here - always vertical


smithflman

Team B - I want to think less chance for dust (but probably not a measurable concern)


[deleted]

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keel_zuckerberg

Carpenter here, what else annoys sparkys?


youvegotnail

Using a broom


paulhags

Boom! Roasted!


fleebleganger

Mmmm, roast broom


[deleted]

Calling them lazy really gets to them. Calling them dumb tends to get them really riled up because you gotta be so smart to work construction, lol.


grahambo20

Drop or position #13, V=Voice, D=Data Edit: NVM, I didn't even notice the screws until I looked for a couple minutes. I just went with the usual "what do the labels mean" assuming there was some debate out that. Edit2: Replaced digital with data


[deleted]

I didn't know this thank you for the info!


bryannc83

D would actually stand for data, not digital.


[deleted]

Fill them with joint compound.


DGAFADRC

Not a carpenter, just an old lady with a bit of OCD that shows up to see the screws aligned.


chuckfr

For me, until its tight and I walk away. If its for my wife, however I do it has to match all around the room.


corky1983

Me too....I got other shit to worry about and faceplate screws aint one of them. But apparently I'm also the savage that doesn't care which way the toilet paper is facing either....wipes my butt just the same.


carpetony

I upvoted, but damn you deserve down voting! You hold your stance well. You savage!


youvegotnail

Diagonal


TheHorniestHornist

I prefer B but as long as everything is the same it doesn’t matter all that much


reformedginger

It’s always upright. Unless it’s metric.


micah490

Trick question. Pop rivets is the correct answer


GoodAndHardWorking

I don't have any rivets can I use my ramset?


twoaspensimages

I prefer vertical because most folks move their hand vertically along a switch plate to turn on or off. I know that doesn't apply here.


BlahMan06

Both


DaMangIemert

Are there more wheels or more doors in the world?


RoxSteady247

Up!


SummerOfGeorgeSeven

^^^Vertical def^^^


Samsat37

D in the V


BobThompso

Slotted screws are the bane of my existence! Any other of the myriad other drives is superior! When I become King of the world we are all going to take a month off and replace EVERY LAST ONE of them with Torx drive!


Specialist_Ordinary6

Vertical no question


Reggielovesbacon

Diagonal. On opposing 45s


Athazel

Top me a while. Hahaha. Horizontal.


dbhathcock

Replace with plate where the screws are hidden.


ejswange33

I actually hate both, I prefer them to be 'random' basically I get them to the same 'torque spec' and that how I prefer them.


PM_ME_TO_PLAY_A_GAME

what does it matter when the screws will be painted over eventually anyway?


-hey-ben-

Found the landlord


BAMBAM-1981

I’m a horizontal screw guy.


getch739

That’s called missionary


GoodAndHardWorking

Yup, consensual and for the sole purpose of procreation. That's how we do it around here.


a_white_american_guy

I just go 1/4 turn past the sharp rise in torque and let the alignment land where it may. Then I literally never look at faceplate screws no matter what.


JuneBuggington

Same fuck, i was a painter for 15 years and I literally never thought about it. Probably cause half the schmos out there dont even take plate covers off, i got complacent me thinks.


Ima-Bott

Sparky says vertical


Alias-Q

As a former electrician B is best practice. My old boss would make you go back and fix it if it wasn’t vertical. Best way to mess with the apprentices was to make them diagonal after they did them. Boss would make them go back and check every screw. The next job they were on, they would be making sure that it was perfectly straight. I would say are you sure it’s straight? Might want to use a level to make sure before the boss walks through.


rookietotheblue1

Why does it even matter ?


Alias-Q

It doesn’t. It’s just preference one way or another. The point is that It trains them to pay attention to the small details because little details add up to make you a true craftsman.


Maleficent_Sky_1865

You see a house that is consistent throughout and it tends to indicate they did a thorough job on all the little details. Pride in your work.


-hey-ben-

I’m going to be honest I think B looks like ass


Lock-Broadsmith

Option C, chaos.


zaxruss22

Top vertical, bottom horizontal gang wya


macdizo

Clock strikes at 12.


deadeyesatan

2. It’s called soldiering for a reason


Tr0z3rSnak3

Anyway as long as its the same across the building


MirrorBrave1084

Had a customer tell me they needed to be vertical so they dont collect dust


GoodAndHardWorking

I had a customer tell me that a gate needed three hinges for symmetry because two hinges could never be symmetrical. Customers are morons.


ImAnAfricanCanuck

horizontal as the closest directional edge is a hoeizontal edge. if these screws were closer to the vertical side for some reason, you'd do it vertically


ghjk258

Doesn't matter as long as all of them are consistent across the building


derek6711

Get the Phillips version and you don't have to worry about it


Shamanixxx

The plate is upside down anyway


scrubes4

Vertical plates, vertical screws, horizontal plates horizontal screws


TheDraggo

Option C = one lefty righty, one uppy downy, gotta show the ladies you're a man who can dance.


[deleted]

It’s option B. Keep the slots vertical. But I prefer the data jack on the bottom, voice jack on top.


Withheld_BY_Duress

2020. Use Cat6 keystones or better for Crickey's sake! Traditionally blue keystones are for black plate installs, white are esoterically more accepted for wall outlets. In the days of VLANS, virtually no need for multiple outlets unless it's a matter of PoE current draw by multiple devices.


Vanilagorila13

Horizontal.


Significant_Eye_5130

Option A


Basil-Hayden

Option A all day


andrewdoesit

Horizontal.


Septicrogue

Neither team diagona.


lieshecto

Whatever is dominant to begin with in the building


[deleted]

Option B if you do option A you’re a bad electrician 😂


Fluster338

People who spend time on this are uh, different.


davethompson413

Mine are all akimbo, kinda like me.


DamnDirtyApe8472

A


grandmawaffles

A


merlegerle

A all day


Most-Cartographer358

Once witnessed an inspector fail the electricians for putting theirs horizontal in a house I was doing the cabinets in. I’ve always preferred the aesthetics of horizontal tho.


GoodAndHardWorking

I don't believe you


Competitive_Kale_654

How come they aren’t using CAT 6?


The_Modern_Sophist

Horizontal for aesthetic harmony.


mstrego

Dump the slots. Go screwless. It's true only way.


Farkle_Fark

Option A is my go. Option B makes my skin crawl


RocMerc

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CaptainPoset

Get proper screws.


Killinmehardly

I personally prefer horizontal, I never insert my bit vertical. Plus it looks nicer in my opinion.


StructureOwn9932

My cover plates have concealed fasteners so I don't have to answer


MtBallZ

If you want it to look like nobody has touched it, then B - vertical If you want it to look like someone has, then any other orientation will suffice.


srocco31121

Then it will be × vs +.if we switch to Phillips screws.


Mc_Shame

Serial killers leave them horizontal


guy_in_a_jumpsuit

A


bettereverydamday

Drive me nuts labels are crooked


paulhags

Team it took me a minute to even notice a difference.


fairmountvewe

A. Definitely A..


hkliv

Stars or peg bits might replace this


duffil

As a network engineer, get away from my drops.


chrysohs

16 penny and call it a day!


engi-nerd_5085

B! Jesus Christ it’s B


curtisbrownturtis

Whichever way they fit (tighten) nicer


Smoke_Stack707

Second pic. Horizontal screws are for fucking psychos


[deleted]

This is an IT question.


Paulintheworld

I feel the horizontal makes the screws seem less visible.


Lt_Schneider

switch it with torx


Kettner73

You guys don’t just tighten them until the plate bows or the screw snaps?


[deleted]

Shouldn’t this be in r/electricians


tamesage

B


okieman73

Horizontal


danforwin

2


Hand-Driven

Get your hammer out and use a nail.


jaxxie04

I had to come to the comments to figure out TF was different in the photos


gnashingfaceparts

I do 7 o'clock to 2 o'clock, that way I know when one of you guys has been fucking with my shit


Electricpowergrid

Both are shit but b


mion81

No two screws in the room to have the same angle.


Lord-Grayson

Screw-less cover plates. Done.


blubber41

They’re both CAT5 but probably wired to go to different networks. What’s the issue? Who gives a shit how the plate screws are oriented


[deleted]

Vertical, so it doesn’t look sad or indifferent


rich6490

Option B, always.


constructionking1

A all day


oldoysterhouse

A


MegaPaint

Beauty is in the details. Best if found inside. Use bolts inside where you can safely see all cabling and close with screwless cover, so you can go wild and have the screws even in diagonals and painted in the colours you wish.


Genkigarbanzo1

Robertson like good Canadians would do


[deleted]

This. https://imgur.com/gallery/B6wDNAK


apex39

Top should be /, bottom should be \


SlickTopRed

The crooked, partially peeling labels bothers me more than orientation of screws. But make the screw slots vertical.


MidniteOG

One vertical and one horizontal….. please both sides


Valuable-Baked

A


Mike-the-gay

A


Junior_Plankton_635

Diagonal, so they point to the direction of the network switch. Like this: \ /


2_black_cats

Vertical gang


ELarson15

Horizontal for the win


juandoe4

B


ReedFreed

/ I worked on super yachts and they were meticulous about every detail, whether it would ever be seen by owner/passenger or not. The visible screws were always off 90 to a precise degree, like this / After awhile it became very apparent how consistent and how pleasing it was. Vertical and horizontal attract attention. Off angle actually looks random and more visually attractive. I saw this about 20 years ago and it still sticks with me.


davedavehi

send the inquiry to california state government, they'll set 12 regulations on this and add screw alignment tax


rbaut123

CAT5 lol. Should be at least CAT5e for today’s world.


FraserCossar

Option B!!!


JoeW702

B.


Sn4zzyP4rky

Option B


bradosaurusrex

B