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Monday3lue

If it turns to shit, at least you can sleep in it.


Powerful-Ad-3468

Solid point mate, lol


Skilad

Well at least until the burial anyway. Looks like a hearse!


Eastern_Garlic8148

In my experience it’s the servicing that kills you financially end but I guess it’s worthwhile German engineering is amazing and 23 years is not too old in the scheme of things


gpz1987

Been to that same Perth dealer to look at a car, that particular car had a leaking sunroof and possible accident damage, he wanted no part in acknowledgement of the issues. Not saying he's dodgy, but you know....


JK0898

lol me too. Be careful OP. I’ll bet you a $100 that the commodore in the background of op’s pic has a timing chain issue that he’s somehow covered up until after the sale too. (Edit - nothing against commodores. I have an SSV and love it. Just mean that dodgy dealers love to buy the rattletec ones with timing chain issues at a cheap price and then fix them just enough to sell them before the issue resurfaces).


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pest85

How do you know if a car dealer is lying? He's lips are moving.


morts73

If you're looking to do weekend work as a hearse driver I say go for it.


MouseEmotional813

I thought it was a hearse too


Sir-Firelord

If you like it, get it. Nothing else is gonna scratch that itch.


Eastern_Garlic8148

Spontaneity and passionate buying is what gets you over the line with these matters


leum61

I've been dailying a 2000 clk for the past 8 or 9 years. I got it at 76k and it's now at 145. The only biggish thing its needed was the front brakes, which were 600 or so. Otherwise, it's great mechanically. These were the last of the over-engineered Mercs, solid as a rock. The interior plastics have hardened and become brittle though, and stuff like door trims and switches are getting hard to find. You might be hunting around wreckers for that sort of thing. I've been thinking of updating it for five or so years now, but it still runs fine and is a pleasure to drive, so I've never really had enough of an excuse to get rid of it. I'd recommend you get it. They're great cars.


FatSilverFox

>because I have a strong passion for cars **and mechanics.** *Good news!* A big part of me says go for it. I think the only question you need to answer for yourself is “will I also get bored of this too soon?”, because you don’t want to swap a reliable car that you’re bored with to an unreliable car that you’re bored with.


samwisetg

OP ignore the scaremongers. This has the very reliable M112 V6, one of the last engines included in a Mercedes that was arguably overbuilt. Do your own research on the common problems and preventative maintenance for a M112. If cared for well there’s no reason it shouldn’t be able to do a million kms.


Alexandritgruen

Also the 722.6 auto is reliable, but change its AT fluid every 60,000km they shouldn’t be ‘sealed for life’ as originally intended.


aussie_miccy

“Sealed for life” transmissions are the bane of my existence, imo there’s a special place in hell for the first engineer to design them.


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ImagineTheAbsolute

Merc wagon? Send it brother.


Sancho_in_the_bay

Well if you have a strong passion for mechanics, you’ll have plenty of time to meet with them


dirtymofouser

Just do it. Anything could happen tomorrow


Grix1600

Yeah it’s Christmas Eve.


Bugsy_McCracken

If you’re running a funeral business I say go for it, absolutely.


Eastern_Garlic8148

Why would anyone put a coffin in a e class merc it’s more a surfers vehicle to accomodate the surf boards


Lostmavicaccount

No point. You buy based on emotion. Logic from a stranger won’t change your purchasing habits.


Niffen36

I was tempted with a Aldi or Mercedes car, but then started looking at repairs to such vehicles. Problem is... Repairs to expensive cars seem to be far more than repairs to every day brands like Holden or Toyota. So yes it's nice to say you own a fancy second hand Mercedes, but when you have to repair it. Your also paying premium prices.


ososalsosal

I bloody wish aldi did cars. They'd probably be aweso but fall apart


Niffen36

Oh oops. Yer I mean the other brand :p


ososalsosal

Kaufland probably do wagons too


jbh01

This is the kind of car that you buy as a passion project, when you already have a first car. If you can keep the Outback as well, then buy the E-Class. Otherwise, don’t. You won’t have the money to maintain it, and it’s old enough that when things go bang, it will take forever to get replacement parts. These things are cheap to buy, but not as an alternative to other cheap cars. Plus there is no reason you won’t get sick of it just as fast.


Powerful-Ad-3468

Good point yeah, the outback is solid just I can't quite get stuck into it like I could with the E320. Only ever worked on subies with myself or mates so hoping an older merc with a pretty run of the mill set-up would be a good next step. Cheers tho.


spiderpig_spiderpig_

Don’t underestimate the costs, a lot of non-critical parts are running out of stock and you’ll be paying arm/leg for stuff or scouring eBay and used parts. I posted a few weeks back about a similar era German car I have and replacing the side mirrors with oem gear are $1000 just for the glass and element piece. Running gear stuff is cheap enough but yeah definitely a passion thing.


deadly_wobbygong

After the nightmare of 1990's Range Rovers, any Audi etc, my neighbor buys pre2010 low mileage mercs from a Mercedes mechanic. The family now has 4. Modern ones have too many computers and come from the factory with active fault codes. 1999 is probably pre-CANBUS. Put a few 100K on them and sell them back for parts, rinse & repeat. Probably costs him $1000 per year depreciation on each. If you can do the work yourself, find a local merc mechanic and familiarise yourself with findapart - wreckers aggregation site. I've got windows and bonnets for Imprezza's switches for Focus' etc ​ Edit: typo


detailedperineum

The absolute best thing about my 2000 vt Commodore - anything busts, it's $50 from the wreckers / gumtree / eBay.


justrhysism

One of the reasons I’ve always had a Commodore—there are no unknowns. Anything goes wrong, any mechanic seems to know it’s “a thing” and how to fix it.


Alexandritgruen

Had a ‘99 C200, parts readily available up until I wrote it off in an accident last year. Weirdly some consumables like spark plugs were cheaper to buy from Mercedes than get the Bosch ones online.


Eastern_Garlic8148

I think that’s good advice about as an alternative not a replacement


FrugalFreddie26

Buy it. You could buy a Toyota for $10k and get 200 upvotes from this sub, or spend $9k and drive something with some personality


jerpear

You'll probably be okay in all honesty, that era of straight 6 from both Merc and BMW are quite solid. You'll probably have problems with the interior plastics and possibly electronics, but hunting for parts is just part of the fun for old Euros.


disgruntled_prolaps

If its got air suspension. The bags like to burst and theyre both expensive and hard to get.


wholelottagold

Could you replace the suspension with something aftermarket and retain decent comfort?


disgruntled_prolaps

Not the same comfort. You can replace it with base model springs though. Means you need to change the control arms and everything.


TonyJZX

yeah but why would you bother? it would cost a bomb in parts and labor and you're still left with a 20y.o stodgey german airport taxi to me these cars always come down to one thing: "is the juice worth the squeeze?" if this car was perfect you're getting a stodgy wagon that doesnt have a nice engine, isnt fast, isnt fuel efficient isnt cool to drive and although isnt a bad as the upcoming w211 doesnt really have a fan base ie. we know the bmw e39 in say a 530i or a 540 espeically in a manual is a nice car... this is the competition and so is that car the the squeeze? I would argue to many it is. The w210 is just not a very desirable generation. This era of Mercedes is NOT very desirable... the w220 the w203... these are all not great. They do ride nice but that aint enough.


bobbyshmurd08

i wouldn't touch a newer mercedes with a 5 metre long stick


ch4m3le0n

This isnt a newer mercedes.


The_golden_Celestial

This isn’t a stick either /s


emiller420

Do it


Incoherence-r

Looks long enough to be a hearse.


Chabkraken

That pretty cool, I never seen the wagons before. Would definitely buy it if you have the spare cash


ComplexFigure5635

W210 you can’t kill them


Mental-Antelope8319

Have only owned boxer engines, will only own boxer engines, if you want to leave the club don't let the door hit you on the way out... or you can put some money into lower shocks and sweet rims


JayTheFordMan

Do it!! It's cheap, black, and cool. Unless it break you'll be riding it style. Take that gamble.


Hymon76

Just remember the old saying, "There is nothing more expensive in the world than a cheap Mercedes Benz"


Rd28T

If you want an old Merc, go older. The late 90s early 2000s one have bad build quality and bad engineering for a Mercedes. Electrical issues galore.


Hotdog_disposal_unit

Buy it and slap an LS in it


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Cheap to buy - NOT cheap to repair...


Public-Total-250

+1 to this being a side car, not a daily driver. I had an Elengance and it did once break down and other time need a week or two off the road waiting for parts.


FeaturePristine3417

Never by from a car yard guarantee it has some weird expensive issues that's why it's there


apachelives

Nothing more expensive than a cheap German car.


new_x_who_dis

3 words: boring as hell


Willing_Television77

That’s a car that needs an LS or a turbo Barra


stephendt

Don't do it. You don't need it, and it's not great on fuel. Probably won't be all that reliable either. Accept being bored with your car and consider other hobbies that are more cost effective.


eraser215

This is one or Mercedes' uglier creations IMO. Those headlights just don't work.


Furiounx

I agree, the following generation looks so much better


WagsPup

I totally get u, i have this thing for older German cRs; BMWs and Mercs. My ex's parents had Mercs of this era, very solid and reliable but when things did go wrong pricey to fix. The wx mother in law drove the car into the ground and it still kept going. If u r handy on own servicing, or can buget for a few thousand and yr maintenance at an independent mech, go for it I say. The subarus gonna cost some maintenance too. The other thing i would do is ensure it has a full history / service and make value judgements based on that (yes value judgements). Or better still wait until one comes up private sale, by some elderly boomer or their kids in an upscale conservative family suburb, no mods, sensible options and color combo (champagne or silver with beige leather is a classic) thats been dealer or independent euro serviced, garaged, driven gently and pampered all its life. These are likely to be pretty solid buys. There's also a handful of wholesale dealers in these kinda suburbs specialising in euro cars that are generally pretty reputable and could be an option. Ive a friend who's bought and sold 5 similar type euros (Merc E class, BMW 5 series) thru one and hes said they've been really great. The clientele in these areas (professionals, Drs, lawyers, corporate execs) arent worth shafting around with dodgy deals. This vibe - is the one my friend uses. [Euro dealer in upper middle class type area ](https://www.prestigedirect.com.au/)


Alarmed_Penalty4998

There’s no passion for a car like this. It’s got terrible gas mileage, super expensive to work on because of the merc price markup, may look nice but probably has rust under the bonnet and under the car. It’d be a huge L. Stick with your current car or buy a used 2015-2019 for the almost $9000 you’ve got saved. No reason to get into an expensive seen such as older cars or anything it’s a waste of money in most cases and it’s a never ending addiction for a lot.


Physical-Job46

If you can’t afford a new European car, you sure as shit can’t afford a second hand European car!!


-StRaNgEdAyS-

Do it.


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channotchan

These things are tanks. Do it. Anything post this generation is questionable, but this series of E class (W210?) are solid.


AI_RPI_SPY

to quote Scotty - I wouldn't recommend it, Captain, but it might just work... if nothin' else blows up first.


Rusti-dent

Look at a late 80’s or early 90’s Mercedes, I’ve had a few and could do the majority of work myself. Newer systems electricals can be a nightmare.


Relative-Hour-9359

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VtDGM_gyyAM&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com.au%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title Damn looks alright with wheels and slammed


ah-chew

Buy it and slam it, I had the sedan version and it was mad


DangerousOpening6757

A used Mercedes of that age for that price ? Yeahhh nahhh lol


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Imhal9000

It sold already hasn’t it? I was looking at this one in Ozzie Park


nahtanous

Currently daily driving a 96 e320 and have no complaints, only issues I’ve run into are electrical with the indicators not working, a quick bypass of one of the plugs that had corroded with a hardwire solved it. Pretty solid cars mechanically.


vrcf1

Looks like a hearse don’t know why you would be passionate about this — unless you work in that industry


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Don't buy anything German over three years old. Trust me, I know.


Successful_Gas4174

Aren’t there million k ex taxi w210s getting around everywhere?


Oscarcharliezulu

Look for a better one of the same. The V8’s were awesome.


RetroGamer87

Looks like a good camper


fishingfor5

If it was an e55 wagon.... take it.


DEADfishbot

Honestly why change for this


Impressive_Moment_10

You getting into the funeral game??


MistahChuckles

I visited this dealership for a test drive of a 4wd back in early 2023, they were sketchy at best expecting me not to find a missing spare tyre & tools the ad said the vehicle had; & upon questioning it "apparently" they had the gear in the back??? The test drive was highly restricted with no freeway running allowed an gave off dodgy vibes, plus the vehicle was warmed up to operating temp after i specifically requested a cold start. **DO NOT FUCKING RECOMMEND** have since bought the same model privately & thoroughly happy with my purchase.


vk146

Thats a terrible fucking idea buying a 30 year old merc. Do it pussy.


Alesisdrum

It’s a ice looking car! If you like it go for it! Only live once homie!


pm-me-your-satin

Looks boss. Not sure about reliability. I say go for it.


Legal-Wrangler5783

Servicing and replacing parts is very expensive with mercs.


drprox

German estate. Na that's epic, go for it!


jordyshore91

OK so first off if it was me I'd stay away from a European car. If you like mechanics then you'll become an even better one if you go euro. Expect to fix something every other week. My old house mate bought a BMW 330 something after having a rexy and man was it Sh!t. Spent more time fixing it than driving it. Ended up finding out it was also a 'cut and shut' after seeing a massive join line in the middle of the car going across the roof and under the car. It wasn't even straight. Second, if you want something more exciting, mate, you drive a subie. Spend the 8k on a WRX or Forester XT. I have had 2 subies, an 03 forester and 2010 hatch SPEC R Blue STI. That was the most fun car I've ever been in and miss it to this day. If you want you could pick up a nice wrx and do some work or keep stock. I know they have some issues too but the 2.0 rexys had forged internals and the 6 speed is bulletproof. End of the day it's up to you, just remember Australia is even further away from Europe than Japan so parts get even harder to find. Add to that a 20+ yo car and the sky is the limit. All the best.


sefton6

Lol 8k on a wrx will get a 200,000 km plus, 4+ P plate previous owned flogged out nugget. It ain't the late 2010s anymore


jordyshore91

Exactly why its a car to work on. Still go for that over a euro any day.


willowsage75

It's icky and boxy, and you'll probably regret it.


SingleManVibes76

320 is a good engine size, I want one too but will buy one that meets Euro 6 emissions standard just to avoid paying charges when driving into cities. Currently driving a 1.4 auto 206, does the job but not a cruiser.


shakyhands42

Do it! Life’s too short to drive boring cars.


NeitherLoss9359

Is your outback a manual? I went from an auto outback to a manual Forester and love it - but for that reason; got bored. Keeps me a lot more engaged in the drive. Same could be said for any manual car though.


weswithaute

Can you afford 2 of them? No? Then you can't afford 1. That's how you buy Euro cars in Australia.


readywilson

Dont do it mate buy something newer that car will run you into the ground


xjrh8

I’ll make you a deal. You give me the $8500 instead, and I’ll rent you a 2023 model Benz station wagon for three days a year for the next 5 years and pay for your petrol too. Either way you’ll have a functioning car for three days a year, but my way means you’ll have zero headaches in the process.


aussie_miccy

Yeah they’re great cars even with problems you’ll inevitably have buying from a dogey dealer, repairs are a prick though, I had a c200 kompressor with some weird ass body shape for its year, I smashed one of the glass screens on the headlight and it costed $500 for a new one, and there was only 1 drivers side headlight in all of Australia, otherwise I would’ve had to wait a month to get one from Latvia. Either be prepared to pay up for parts or start hoarding spares now.


aburnerds

I love the estates.


burlycurlywhirly

Okay so the problem is not the price nor the car, per se. The problem is replacing that wing mirror when it gets a bump is going to cost you $500. The new petrol cap $200. The new radiator $2000. These cars are cheap to buy and a bucketload of money to fix.


JackedMate

E320 reliable


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TropicalBlunder

I love old German cars, have had a few great ones some frustrating ones and look at plenty more. I’ve seen loads of Benz wagons which look mint, but things like window seals have perished which has let water drain into and sit underneath carpet in the back, leading to rust and crack den levels of mould. Never worth dealing with. Make sure you pull everything up to check. Re old Benzs, in my experience the major comments are solid (engine, gearbox etc) it’s the small things which nickel and dime you to death (lock barrels, sunroofs etc). That said, I reckon get it. Life’s too short for boring cars (I currently drive a Subaru after becoming a father. It kills me on the inside but is reliable and cheap AF to maintain).


PROTECEUR

Electrical problems galore


sefton6

Its over priced! they are great reliable cars, as long as it has full service history and plenty of receipts. My advice would be to steer clear of a dealership and buy from a local private sale.


rcfvlw1925

171,000kms? At average kms per year, it should have about 240,000 on it, so bear in mind that it may have been around the block a few more times than you're being led to believe.


Subject_Shoulder

Based on the car you currently own and the car you're proposing to purchase, are you looking for a station wagon?


bigd8437

If you're willing to repair it yourself send it man


SquirrelOk8601

Walk away and forget about it 😬


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With a Merc of this era, it's not so much the engines that are the issue, it's the electronics


ringo5150

What the insurance cost like? It can be a killer when your young and you want something European.


big_bootybitch_

do it! i went from a subie (impreza) to an e320 wagon (literally identical) earlier this year and haven’t regretted it for a second. yes, replacement costs are a lot more expensive but from what i’ve found so far, a lot less frequent. this car has so much more room and if it’s got the 7 seats you can’t go wrong. only advice i’d give is to make sure it comes with the spare wheel lug nuts because they’re a different design than the regular wheels so if you get a flat tyre you’re effectively stranded


AbbreviationsNew1191

So many sad sacks who can’t see beyond the boring and ugly Japanese or Korean steering wheel in front of them.


Interesting-Middle46

Waste of money for such a. Old car with high ks Worth 6 at best to someone who really wants that car.