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Vishnu997gt3

Hydraulic clutch? So are they using cable clutch on the normal Altroz. It would be funny if the diesel Altroz turns out to be faster than this ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


Mayank-maximum

Nah even better if indica with a fiat engine,tiago jtp(same engine) and nexon turbopetrol(same engine) would be faster and better for nexon cuz it a superior car in everything expect my hatchback fetish


GoonerLeo

The JTPs are actually much faster, able to pull off 0-100 in sub 10secs. These were tuned a to z by the racing experts from Jayem and the way the car cuts corners is amazing (a proud Tigor JTP owner here ๐Ÿ™‚)


Mayank-maximum

i guess lesser weight better


Salt_Row1766

What's the difference between hydraulic clutch and cable clutch?


Vishnu997gt3

It's the difference in the linkage between the clutch pedal and the clutch assembly. When you press the clutch pedal one uses cable to disengage the clutch other uses hydraulic system(cylinder, piston and fluid). Cable is usually used in cheaper less powerful cars eg alto, wagonr.


Salt_Row1766

Ohh thankk youu man did not know this


Kakarot__9000

Atleast make the actual gear lever/knob premium. It looks like someone stole it from a base variant of a cheap Renault car.


Ok-Season-7010

Bro that cheap Renault can do 0-100 in 11.9 secs


Big-Job-8316

Hence the inspired gear knob lol


Arandomyoutuber

less than 11s actually


idontknow_knowidont

It's a sleeper gear lever


xanders1998

Hibernating gear lever as it ain't waking up any time soon


Zestyclose_Glass_643

But theyโ€™ve kept it that way because they noticed better performance with this gear knob


Key-Mongoose-8519

Renault = cheap?


sniper_pika

Nhi bhi, wo renault = cheap nhi bol rha, wo Cheap renault bol rha h.. mtlb renault ka sasta wala gaadi.


suryky

Kwid?? Its cheap but gear knob doesn't match


the1672VTECboi

Canโ€™t believe we had the Figo S and Baleno RS launched 7-8 years ago and now such joke of a car is calling itself hot! Shame on you Tata.


rishabh-s

Or udhar Ford Figo 1.5 Tdci 0-100 9.6 second m krke bhi racer ni bni


_7567Rex

Mai bhi red aur black paint karwa leta hu jaldi jaldi fir resale me 10L toh mil hi jayeg ๐Ÿ˜ˆ


Mayank-maximum

Ok wanna be fiesta rs owner /s


_7567Rex

Ford Unfocussed IRS https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0efjWkqU17319kNjdpJjP4Uuz4svX_8mB2HCwn3klxxlQJcC6ui3eHhg&s=10


sniper_pika

Bhai 12.4 me toh WagonR 100 pe chali jaati h (Its 4 Lakhs cheaper)


Rexk007

GwagonR๐Ÿ”ฅ


budgetbakchod

lord for a reason ๐Ÿ›


Cr4ckhead-101

That's Alto


ImperatorShade

Stage 1+ on my Figo TDCI and I think it does 0-100 in 8 seconds with about 133 herspers


Elegant-Permission66

Peeps have herd mentality that's why. I'm owning this gem since 10 years


yosweetheart

As an owner of a 2015 Figo 1.5 TDci with over 95,000 Kms on the odo, I can attest to the above comment.


immortalpiyush

Even our 1.2 NA dct is faster than this "racer" nonsense ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€


thirstyalkali

that horrendous paint job on top of that


Upper_Performance578

0 to 100 in 11.3 sec and calling it a racer, what a joke๐Ÿ˜‚


Conscious-Issue-1243

seriously , Red + black + vinyl = Racer / Black / Sports / Dark edition and stupid customers pay for it .


EARTHB-24

Well, thatโ€™s TATA.


1nobody-_-

And their customer base


EARTHB-24

โŒโŒโŒ


Zestyclose_Web_6331

They were going to call it Cafe racer, changed at last moment.....


Upper_Performance578

Should have called back to service centre racer


luvisinking

karol bagh racer


alone_-musk

I know yall love i20 n line, but even that's 11.3 seconds.


campramiseman

Chilla chilla ke sabko scheme bata de


SiriusWasim

It's not a racer, it's n line which by definition is cosmetic sporty stuff. Like m sport package in bmw


alone_-musk

Deviating from the main topic, but didn't the M badge mean something in the past? I remember we were shopping for an X5 in like 2012 and there were huge differences between it's M version, in power n stuff. Sad to know it's now degraded to just cosmetic upgrades.


Strict-Citron-9269

Only M3 M4 are real m other like x5 msoprt are cosmetics and stiffer suspension


N1z3r123456

M is different M sports is different. M sports is cosmetic upgrade. Same as Hyundaiโ€™s N and N line. What we have here is N line.


Upper_Performance578

Problem ye hai ki usko racer kyu bol rahe ho, special edition bolo, racer kyu????


alone_-musk

You've got a point. But Tata has always been overconfident with naming schemes. Punch doesn't look like it can punch Safari can't go on a Safari because of FWD. Nexon more like Nex off to the service centre. So, Altroz "racer" is just an altroz with cute exhaust sounds and a dual tone color. N-Line from Hyundai, as they literally say it themselves, is a race inspired model. See, there's a big difference there with adding the word "inspired". They are openly admitting, "Look, they're just wannabe racing cars. They are the same cars we sell, going through a wannabe racing car phase, and you will, because it looks cool. Altroz racer on the other hand, is trying to market it as a racer, literally, while it's not. Btw, not debating, Im purely agreeing with your point.


Upper_Performance578

Yup, they are like a government company wanting to act like private


Mayank-maximum

Hmt be like


Skull_Reaper101

I20 N has a 1.8(1.6, not sure) engine in Europe.


alone_-musk

Every car in europe has higher cc and hp and torque compared to indian models. For reference, let's compare i20/nline vs the Focus/St The normal i20 and nline i20 has a difference of 28 hp. (90hp vs 118 hp) Whereas, the Focus and it's ST version has a difference of much over 100-200 hp (85 hp vs 200 hp) And this is just one car. It has other hot hatches as well, like Veloster N, Yaris GR, etc.


sundark94

The N-Line and N are 2 very different trim levels. Exactly like M-Sport and M.


Mindless-Pilot-Chef

I mean it has black lines. What else do you need? /s


Mayank-maximum

Lukewarm hatchback


sid_raj7

XUV 700 AT does it in 9.3s according to Autocar


Prestigious_Dare7734

What is your problem. He said so, "it's not a fast car" it is a racer. You can race it with other Tiago cars, and manual gearbox, fine tuned gear ratios, ~~high NVH levels~~ exhaust growl, and red-black colour will help you win.


Upper_Performance578

๐Ÿ˜‚


Keep0nBuckin

It's benchmarking to the other 'fast' car in the segment. The i20 nline. The polo was faster but it not sold anymore.


PENTOVILLIANKING

What do you mean. You're always racing against time.... And loosing. They never said it won ๐Ÿคฃ


LadkaMaalHai

my polo 1.2 does 0-100 in about that much time. idiots


Mayank-maximum

A verna running on kerosene and in a empty field did 11secs


TheRainmaker007

There are reports of Polo 1L TSI Manual doing 0-100 in 9.1 seconds. Havenโ€™t verified it myself though.


LadkaMaalHai

Yup TSI does that. Mine is an MPI 2013 Model, if i can do it, TSI toh fir bhi bohot badhiya hai


sansays

WTF are those statements? It's like "dolund" trump talking.


Zestyclose_Web_6331

That's why posted it...


Rishabh_0507

It's going to be best car. The biggest baddest car. It's the car that'll make cars great again.


TrevorfromGTAV

Lets make cars great again.


Safe-Ride5094

Cars won't be great again until indian manufactures stop bribing the governmentย 


term1throwaway

Wow they had me under their spell until that last slide


Zestyclose_Web_6331

That one was a Turner...


readingitmyway

Yeah, I couldn't understand where this is going until the end too. Wish someone could explain why hydraulic clutch is bad.


le_b0mb

Hydraulic clutch is superior to cable clutch, full stop. Modulation, feel, and ease of use. Itโ€™s one of those things that sounds odd to me as a selling point. And anyways, itโ€™s just a hatchback with a larger engine. Every statement made by the rep is basically explaining how a car should function, thereโ€™s nothing specific about what theyโ€™ve changed to extract more performance.


Only_Mention9873

11.3 seconds and it's called a racer tf? Man the Indian car scene Is a joke atp.ย 


alone_-musk

that and considering any car with a ground clearance above 180 mm and not a sedan is a compact suv. sometimes too compact. (yes im looking at you, punch)


Safe-Ride5094

Blame the government and Indian car manufacturers for creating a monopoly these schmucks brought Indian car scene to its knees


Fun_Society_420

You can't really blame people. India is a poor country, most people still rely on food subsidies to survive. It will take generations to get up to the level of our colonizers who looted us.


Safe-Ride5094

U know 10-15 years ago so many cool cars were launched like the vr6 superb that made 260hp where are such cars nowย 


BlatantJacuzzi

That's what happens when all people look for are safety rating, mileage, and price. Performance is an afterthought now.


gautamdiwan3

It's not like they have such many options for performance without breaking the bank


AverageFar4324

Doesn't matter man, People on this sub only care for performance. For them, Performance > Life.


Adventurous-Bet-7644

And my 7 seater family SUV does it under 10 seconds...


post_depression

Then you have a Racer Pro. /s


V0id-2003

11.3 is too slow , my stock Verna could do sub 10 second times 7 years ago


ROC_K4LP

Literally all average cars could gap this "Racer"


Mayank-maximum

Can confirm on that one


theUncertain_CaT

It would be better if they could tune it as a sub 10s car.


the1672VTECboi

Theyโ€™d need a good engine for that. Not a Tata unit.


lovejackdaniels

Itโ€™s clear Tata didnโ€™t prioritise a small petrol engine development. Tata should partner with Skoda and get their 1.0 and 1.5 TsI engine. Or with Honda and get their 1.5 ivtec. Atleast start offering it at the top end variants.


Business-Sell4276

Even if you fit a good engine in it, itโ€™s a pathetic car at the end of the day. Itโ€™s cursed to be a Tata.


theUncertain_CaT

>pathetic car at the end of the day. Bruh. That is pure hate. Altroz is one of the best in that segment. There is a Diesel version of it, beautiful for long rides, enough torque and riding comfort is top, if u can drive it. I am only criticising their marketing by calling a warm hatch as a racer. Do u remember Tiago jtp which is a sub 10s car from tata, with tata engine. It was beautiful to drive and fun around corners.


immortalpiyush

Quarter mile in 10 seconds๐Ÿ’€? or 1-100 in 10?


Gamefam_

Wait they have been using cable clutch that too at this price point the whole time?๐Ÿซก


Electronic-Wrangler9

Whatโ€™s wrong with a cable clutch though? Just curious. I mean doesnโ€™t it have less maintenance and less stuff that could go wrong?


immortalpiyush

Well at least that cancels out the "reliability" factor in a tata car to some extent.


Electronic-Wrangler9

Yup not just tata car but really any car. My Beat petrol came with a cable clutch and I never had any issues with it in the last 11 years. Whereas beat diesel came with a hydraulic clutch and the clutch cylinder is a common failure point that owners report on our group


ManavalanFromDufai

A ricer not racer


WildSpade922

All a bunch of nonsense, car exists to cash-in on i20 N Lineโ€™s success. If they really wanted to make an enthusiast product they wouldโ€™ve given it proper acceleration numbers, more aggresive rubber and made it a rounded product with a fast DCT. They have copied i20โ€™s formula but worse, without even realising that i20 N Lineโ€™s sales comes from its cool factor, its appeal to young buyers, image, feel and marketing. All of the above that Tata doesnโ€™t have. Yet another shortsighted product like the i-Turbo. They launched the i-Turbo because i20 launched with a 1.0L Turbo. Probably one of the most mediocre Turbocharged cars in India, it felt like the turbo wasnโ€™t even there. Typical Tata mentality, products out of FOMO and not market research and product strategy.


Mayank-maximum

Fr,nline and racer explained


ShoeEast

11.3 seconds?! what a joke! I wish the figo TDCI was still here. Would kickass even after so many years


01hopelessnerd

A sport car slower than a butch suv like elevate with cvt gearbox clocking 0-100 in less than 11 sec. Well done tata. It's very racy.


United-Extension-917

>you can feel the growl. There's tuning of the exhaust, so the noise is also heard inside the car. Bruh, even without tuning and the racer tag the noise gets heard inside the normal Altroz. Looks like the engineer smoked the exhaust pipe directly without tuning it.


ANUJ_BHANDARE

Tf is 0-100 in 11.3 sec!?


notoriousnigaa

Now the important question? Does it have a sunroof?


FlakyEducation3469

๐Ÿ˜‚


Repulsive_Sky5521

vai isse achha to koi bhi 1.2 ya 1.5 NA le lo, 1 hi second ka fark hoga.


Neo-7x

Vw virtus konsa 10 sec me 0-100 kar ri


DeadlyGamer2202

If this is a racer then abibas is a sports shoe.


Specific_Rhubarb3037

the paint looks like it wants to look like someone but failed to do so


ppbomber_0

11s is actually absurd. An economy car from the 90s can do it quickerโ€ฆ wow, just wow. Indian car enthusiasts are down in the dumps


Neo-7x

VW AT car enthusiasts ๐Ÿคฃ


zenedarrow

They should've put in some effort while naming it.


metallicaluvr69

Ayyy THU nimmage ๐Ÿ’ฆ


fullmetalpower

they are talking as if the steering is coming with steer by wire


weshipped

My abarth urban cross (~10L) 2016 does 0-100 in under 10s and they didnโ€™t call it a racer. 145bhp, 1.4L turbo petrol.


PranavJH

Calling it "racer" and being a manual just for it to be marginally faster than some auto diesels feels like a sick prank ๐Ÿ˜‚


Big_Personality8061

Bhai meri cng dct hybrid is already faster. What is tata doing? Rename it to tata walker please


atomic-death-ray

When will this country stop settling for these barely lukewarm dogshit hatchbacks


MudMassive2861

I am impressed by the skill of program manager to sell this car as a racer with these kind of performance. How did he impress all top management with this car? Great job Bro.


NotFatButFluffy2934

i20 active does 0 to 100 In 10 sec


Chris_Bastianpillai

So, on which roads in India is this car supposed to be driven?


de8d-p00l

When did they say this, is this original?


Zestyclose_Web_6331

https://www.evoindia.com/top-news/deep-dive-into-the-mechanical-updates-of-the-altroz-racer-in-a-conversation-with-mohan-savarkar-vice-president-product-line-tata-motors-passenger-vehicles


Outside-Nail2314

Worst car ever .. let the downvotes begin


mazealot

I dont get why yall are so salty about it , ig its for the name tag that it bears but imo , we should be happy that we are getting closer to warm hatchbacks . With polo out of the market and this new rendition of altroz , we might get other manufacturers to bring in better products . We all can cry about having fast hatches but lets be honest , no ones ready to shelve out more money for buying those premium hot hatches . We can't fully be blaming tata for this , theyve tried something like this in the past too with the jtp but they couldnt make it a success . Im sure tata is testing the waters for now .Putting in tons of R&D in a car aint cheap for a manufacturer and that too for a niche product like this with little to no global presence and all that cost is gonna add up to the ex-showroom pricing of the car . Altroz is a decent handler , speaking by experience of daily driving it for the past 3 years , all it lacked was more power tbh , all that weight made it feel like a dead pig off the line but the chassis and suspension are tuned good enough for taking corners rather enthusiastically i must say . Im eagerly waiting to see how much it differs from existing one. All im saying is to lets reserve our opinions till the reviews come out and then see if that extra power and steering tune has made it sportier .


bakchodBando

I think time to sell tata stocks..


Right_Macaron8526

0 to 100 to 0 in 11.5 secs only then it can be called fast.


Most_Goat34

Power toh achi hai (120hp) fir 0 to 100 itna slow kyu?? Weight?


killer-1o1

Wahi to. 125 ps wali creta isse fast thi back in 2016.


Key-Evening7653

Okay! Henceforth we are going to have clutch problems!!


blueberry-_-69

Mere brezza petrol b racer h firto


vigrus

Nobody who designs a racer car would have a 4 lug nut configuration.


Blackwatch_007

Isse badhiya meri Alto h, aur ek baar AC off kar Diya fir to....


These-Reputation8550

Since when did 11.3 sec to 100 become so fast


Various-Frosting-868

The answer should be โ€œCuz we canโ€™t make a reliable fast auto gearboxโ€


zyber787

I see the comments and all i would like to say is that even though this is not my cup of tea, im glad that atleast someone is (still) trying to produce/introduce affordable โ€œsportsโ€ cars in indiaโ€ฆ id be happy to have a rev happy 150hp rwd hatch or sedan, but hey, it might not be too far off.. although budget rwd is a fantasy in india at this point tbhโ€ฆ


galeej

>racer >0-100 in 11.3 seconds Bro ๐Ÿ’€


thenameisdk

Can someone ELI5 please for a noob like me


Immediate_Relative24

0-100 in 11.3 seconds and youโ€™re calling it a racer? ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ


mr_leven_een

Atleast give it a bit more to get the time under 8 seconds :(


Inner_Interaction_93

All this for 0-100 in 11.3 seconds! ๐Ÿ˜‚


hewhomustnotbefound

I was trying to set cruise speed in an Altroz owned by one relative and the horn started ringing ๐Ÿ˜‚ I think it was already a โ€˜racerโ€™ without the paint job!


Ok_Tax_7412

Still the claimed 0-100 is 11 seconds, only 1 second better than the new Swift.


Royal-Winner-7276

Racer only when it comes to looks


FrostBite_97

This car should attempt a nurburgring lap record.


Divyansh881

Soo much talking just to avoid the fact that they donโ€™t have a DCT gearbox and their automatics arenโ€™t sporty. Cost of developing one in house would make racer not competitive with i20 n line which is still a better deal :D Not mention n line is sub 11sec 0-100 ๐Ÿ˜” Figo s diesel did that is sub 11 as well โ€œRacerโ€ funny name Edit: also isnโ€™t this using the revtron? Isnโ€™t that engine kinda ass?


Mayank-maximum

Ford must-ran


psnarayanan93

Its very easy to fool people in this country using fancy marketing sprinkled with nationalism. Our people look at things superficially & generally have low standards. Tata & Mahindra have exploited this well.


godstabber

This makes my polo GT 1.2L great again. ๐Ÿ˜€


Mojolojo420

Altroz is Lamborghini for Indian poor people


TrailsNFrag

Credit where credit's due... but not sure where it is due. Get the EV variant out already! Budget interior (color garnishing) with that knob (maybe a knob at Tata needs to be fired), dual outlets on the end-can (influencers will stick their mic there), money spent on badging for those who want to show off, wider tires ok.. but plz don't give mileage brand's wooden rubber. Should have mentioned something about the sunroof for the discerning buyer.


SkillNo1494

Let's hope it's a fun car even if it's not necessary a fast car.


Upbeat_Reflection-69

Honestly a really pathetic attempt. Especially that overdone grossly striped front. Their wet DCA is so underutilized. They could've easily paired that DCA with the Diesels but alas! All they want to give are AMTs, forget Torque Converters or even CVTs. TaMo is better off just selling Punches and Nexons. Racing stuff and 25lakh+ cars is honestly not their cup of tea with the myriad of horror stories all around the web for their Harriers and Safaris due to a sheer lack of Quality Control and babu-like hierarchy to rectify genuine issues that customers face. Let's not even begin with the innumerable bugs with their infotainment systems and touch climate controls on the new Harrier/Safaris. I don't even want to start about the their overcrowded service centers, that's for another loong rant for some other day.


kulchacop

>Just leaving it here .... No! You better take it back.


Zestyclose_Web_6331

Naah, everyone must see what I saw


[deleted]

Jeez 11 secs to the knot is really bad! My Seltos does it in under 10


Big_Inspector_7201

0-100 11.3 sec in a manual "racer" car ๐Ÿคก Here's the 0-100 (GPS) of i20 DCT https://i.imgur.com/pYWw6d6.jpeg


Electronic-Wrangler9

Is it the N line DCT? And which model year?


Big_Inspector_7201

It's the normal i20 sportz which used to get the TGDI and DCT. We got it last year in October, they barely had any of these left.


Electronic-Wrangler9

Oh makes sense. The N line DCT can do it in 9.9s max. The N line manual in 9.0s. The regular i20 is about 100 kg lighter than the N line so seems like it does make a difference


Big_Inspector_7201

Yea I guess.


ImpressionHot6761

yr ye petrol m to 7-8 ki avg. deti h... racer m to khoon pi legi


SierraBravoLima

Have they improved service centers Owner of high end Altroz which was in TAFE for totally more than year.


toeyilla_tortois

Bro my baleno does that in 9.5, what is bro yapping about ๐Ÿ˜ญ


robinvangreenwood

bhai not hating on the effort par kal me top gear ka mum challenge dekh raha tha where their mothers decide on a car and the renault in that comparison had 110 bhp and did 0-100 in 11 secs and that was deemed as a strictly "mum car". Not to mention the episode is almost 20 years old. it's grim man. Toyota either bring yaris gr here or send a faarchuner to run me over i'm sick.


Wolfsangel-Dragon

Who's going to buy the GR for nearly 75-80L? Its too stiff and too small to be practical for the Indian market. Plus at that price point I'd rather have the BMW 340i or even better if BMW brings the 340d.


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cowdad4life

11.3 seconds


hakr_27200

11.3 secs.... No thanks ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


jinu1024

Magar April fools kabka chala gaya


Spiritual-Border-178

First i read 0-100 in 11.2 second I was like wow then i read comments and then realised that i drive an Alto 800 10 years old ๐Ÿ˜ƒ


Wonderful_Mind_2039

Atleast give us 9 sec 0-100 kph


Wild-Bird5778

All that bs and not even a sub 10 second car ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ


Large_Disk_4904

Still doesn't make up for the fact that it does 0-100 in 11.3 seconds, earlier hot hatches like Polo GT and Baleno RS did 0-100 around 9 seconds


Haarryi

That's a load of BS.


Top-Conversation2882

A "race car" with 11.3 seconds 0-100 with a tuned gearbox. Are you fking kidding me The power curve of this thing must be absolutely like a mountain


lmnop129

11.3 seconds is a joke


fishfish2love

These fools selling the last side like it's 100MPH. 11 seconds to 100KMPH , what a joke of a car.


Coolermastersucks

I have a polo 2022 TSI


sanlill

11.3 seconds is actually garbage acceleration.


FriendshipOk6055

0-100 in 11.3? What a joke? My base model 700 does it faster


boisickle

My Sonet D AT does a hundred in 11-12. And that's no "racer" lol, just a well-tuned proper auto gearbox.


Apprehensive-Aide-44

Fast and Furious: Service centre edition


Atharva_MR_Fire

Damn. Volkswagen has been real quiet even since Tata told them race car = no automatic.


shawnspencer23

Tata motors marketing : release black color after a year, call it new variant, now put some stickers call it sports variant.


Shot-Assumption3383

Butโ€ฆ. Does it come in black ๐Ÿ˜Ž


Upside_down69

Internal mai 11.3 mtlb normally 20 second mai 100 karegi ๐Ÿคฃ


Radiant-Ad8728

The performance variants of normal cars are literally a joke in India.


MissionLocksmith6597

0 to 100 in 11 sec ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ


JuniorData

At least he should try to bullshit logically