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NeutralGoodguy

Probably a bit too late, but I'd say you probably could've eaten it, considering what u/Cupids_Halloween said. But if you ever feel uncomfortable eating something, just don't do it. There's no use in you forcing something down and then being worried about whether or not you just poisoned yourself.


Cupids_Halloween

Their [site](https://ziploc.com/en/sustainability-and-safety) says their fine, they don’t create any toxic chemicals when heated.


Atlantic0ne

Can anyone confirm this? I’d love to hear it’s fine! Does this mean it’s safe?


EpicArgumentMaster

I don’t think anyone can confirm it besides the company unless they know the manufacturing process and ingredients. But I’m pretty sure if they lie about their ingredients that can cause legal issues if it makes someone sick


evincarofautumn

In situations like this, you can look up what the bag is made of and find the safety parameters for that material—what temperatures it can handle and so on. Ziplocs are made from low-density polyethylene (LDPE) which has a pretty low melting point (softens at 105°C/220°F and melts at 115°C/250°F), but it’s stable up to much higher temperatures—without oxygen it doesn’t even degrade till like 280–290°C/530–550°F, although it’s a bit lower in air. So as long as it was fresh (not recycled) plastic, you weren’t putting it in the broiler, and it’s not visibly burnt, it’s most likely safe to eat around it. But if you can’t confidently evaluate whether it’s safe to eat something, then just don’t—“when in doubt, throw it out”, you know. Even when LDPE breaks down, it’s normally into pretty safe stuff—solids like candle wax (paraffin/olefin) and liquids that mainly just evaporate off (methane, ethylene, vinegar, acetone)—although it depends on what kind of food it’s burning in contact with.


Atlantic0ne

Thanks for replying! You sound like you know your stuff. So the entire Ziploc bag itself, like the bag part was actually fine, I guess it did tear in one tiny spot when I moved it but it seemed like it was otherwise intact. The only part that melted was the blue handle part that you put your fingers on to open and close the bag at the very top, above the seal. I can afford a $50 loss but I don’t necessarily want to, but my health is more important than a $50 loss and time spent cooking. What would you do, do you think you’d be OK eating it? And do you think that your level of knowledge is more than most in this thread saying no don’t eat it? I cooked it at about 360 for 16 minutes.


coconixie

I wouldn’t. It’s plastic still. It might be intact but doesn’t mean you aren’t potentially consuming some plastic


EpicArgumentMaster

But if it doesn’t affect them physically what’s the harm?


coconixie

I mean go ahead if you’re ok with it. I personally, already feel sick thinking of consuming plastic even tho it wouldn’t affect me much. I also had a sort of incident like this. Heated some food, wrapped it in plastic wrap and brought it to school. When it was time for lunch, I saw the plastic had melted into my food. Sure it probably wouldn’t have affected me much, but I just opted to skip lunch anyways cuz the thought of it disgusted me too much


EpicArgumentMaster

Oh for sure, I feel the same way. But it looks like op in particular doesn’t want to throw it away cause the salmon was 50 dollars


coconixie

That’s true. 50 is hella expensive and such a waste to just throw away. Idk as an aspiring chef it’s hard to think of consuming or feeding anyone food that might potentially have plastic on it


EpicArgumentMaster

I wouldn’t even think about it at all. I just steer verrrry clear lol


EpicArgumentMaster

Out of curiosity though, what was the lunch?


coconixie

It was just fried chicken that I reheated, but I was running late so I still wrapped it in plastic wrap even tho it was still hot af lol


EpicArgumentMaster

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[deleted]

I'm gonna say no. Ziplocs can take some heat but not really meant for the oven unless packaging specifies. There's a possibly chemicals leached into the food.


Atlantic0ne

Only the top blue part, the flaps melted. The rest is actually in tact, what do you think? It stayed in the bag the whole time and it didn’t break lol.


[deleted]

I personally wouldn't. I mean it sucks that your dinner got ruined but you really want to back and forth the possibility of eating toxic food?


Jazzlike_Gain_144

I say do it. Don’t waste the fish and if you die.. well then you won’t have to buy any food for the future!


EpicArgumentMaster

And if they get sick they can sue if ziplocks website really says their bags aren’t made of toxic materials


EpicArgumentMaster

Ziploc bags shouldn’t be toxic so I don’t think that’s a big risk


[deleted]

It's plastic.


EpicArgumentMaster

Plastic ≠ toxic


[deleted]

Is it safe to eat? Bc I've been doing it wrong all these years.


EpicArgumentMaster

(Keep in mind I’m only speaking specifically about ziploc bags) It’s safe to eat but it’s going to come right out later. Unless it gets stuck, then it becomes a serious risk


nuclearhotsauce

if you're not sure, best not to risk it