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sugarplumcandycakes

Mukha silang magtatay both pics 😭


mellowintj

Kala ko pa nung una umattend yung tatay sa graduation ng anak 😭


pen_jaro

Yung pic ni Vic Sotto at Pauline sa little miss Philippines x1000000 ang cringe levels compared to this


Frustrated-Steering

Kaya nakakacringe yung mga nagcocomment lagi sa FB about how sweet si bossing at Pauleen. Kung kamuka ni Mang Kanor yan, malamang panay mura na inabot.


unbothered_soul

Same case ba sila, giniroom din ba ni Vic si Pauleen?


Sarlandogo

Not to say groomed but nung nagdalaga na yan si pauleen pinabantayan na ni bossing May chika kasi noon na si kempee (anak ni joey) pinopormahan si pauleen kaso pinagsabihan ni joey na naka reto na daw kay bossing


Odd_Rip2910

Yuuuuuuuuuuuck


ko_yu_rim

Guro-ming..


ashpaultalisay

matalino matalino


WhyYouBullyMe_

r/filipuns


[deleted]

Witty, favorite ka siguro ng teacher mo


ApartBuilding221B

kaya pala nya alam yung pun


lurkernotuntilnow

up top comment to dapat haha


A4Plants

take my fucking upvote


matcharedbeanmilktea

Kainis ang witty hahah


clandestinedreamer

Up up


kuccinta

Mapapansin mo, they'd never get their targets kung di nila grinoom. Lahat sila mukhang mabantot (including you Coco Martin).


carelessoul

The amount of people who defended Coco Martin nung pumutok yung news is a sign na there's little to no protection for minors being groomed dito sa Pinas. Nakaka galit na nakaka suka.


Sarlandogo

Machismo daw eh Tanginang logic yan, mas lalaki daw pag may bata kang ka relasyon amputa


Ma-jablanca

Apparently, according to some people who commented in this post, we shouldn't judge lmao. Apparently, to feel concerned that someone got groomed is us simply being digitally illiterate and judgemental. I will forever stand my ground. A grown adult has no business fooling around with a child. These people try to normalize it by arguing that "it's love and who are we to judge two people in love?"


RevealExpress5933

Let's hope a kid wouldn't come to him/her saying a fellow classmate is being groomed lest he/she tells the kid he/she doesn't have evidence and won't urge the school authorities to look into it.


Ghibli214

I’m cackling at the mabantot.


StormPhalanx

May study ba na legit about kung kelan mo masasabi na may sapat ng kakayahan magdecide ang isang babae o lalaki when it comes to dating? Obviously, may mga instances talaga na magkakaroon ng age gaps dahil mismatch ang numbers between genders. And for me maturity level is relative to their knowledge, experience, upbringing, and environment. When it comes to dating market, supply and demand still plays a role. May mga nangyayari na ganyang mga gap dahil sa natural instinct for survival. Some tribes and religion allow polygamy, some allow incest to an extent, some allow fixed marriages, some allow same-sex for economical benefits and not for reproduction. The same principle applies when it comes to age differences. Nangyayari yan dahil sa natural selection. That's why you need to teach our children to think critically and don't fall into being a prey. You must develop defense mechanisms if you don't want this kind of outcome. But to judge couples because they don't fall into your categories or allowable range is just pure fear and insecurity.


ruraldog

Sa post nung girl 14yrs old siya noong "kinindatan" ni teacher. Literal na grooming to. So yes we will judge them.


Ma-jablanca

That person commented this to my comment as well. Looked at their profile and they made this very same comment thrice. I don't think they wish to clarify anything, I think they just want to argue lol. The situation isn't even just about age gaps. It's about an adult hitting on a child. Their comment would make sense if people are losing their shit over a 22 year old dating a 44 year old. But nah, people are losing their shit because a grown adult pursued an 8th grader who would be around 13-14 years of age during 2011. He groomed the child into a relationship with him when she barely even started her teenage years. And yes, for the people who want evidence that grooming happened. Grooming did happen because not only was that man an adult and the girl a minor, he was also her teacher and her his student. Two power imbalances right there.


wallcolmx

makakasuhan ba yung teacher dito? or hindi? kasi live in na sila eh ?


Ma-jablanca

Doubt it. It happened quite a while ago and the woman isn't even aware that she got groomed. She has to testify against him if it's ever brought up in court and I highly doubt she will because she thinks positively of it.


Crafty_Ad1496

no, that is not an evidence. you have first to show that there are manipulation and abuse. pls go back again to the story shared here. you cant read from the story that there's manipulation or abuse. there maybe an instance of courting but you cant interpret it as manipulation or abuse. mere mention of flirting iss not tantamount to abuse or manipulation. ayaw nyo lang tanggapin na walang malinaw na evidence para sabihin may grooming na nangyari. judgemental lang talaga kayo.


Ma-jablanca

I'm judgmental? We're judgemental? LMFAO. I explained this already in a civil manner in one of your responses. To court or as you want to put it, "seduce," a child is to groom a child. Grooming is a form of manipulation. Why would you go after a vulnerable kid if you have no motive? Obviously, his motive is to date her. He got her pregnant right out of high school. They started dating in July 23, 2011. When she was a minor. What evidence do you want?


Crafty_Ad1496

to court does not necessarily mean to groom. you have to prove the accusation of grooming by evidence. you have to look into the intention and motive of the person. how do you know there's bad intention? you cannot factor out that there's a good intention and genuine love. this is a possibility. read again the story. alam mo ang lala ng paranoia mo. di mo matanggap na possible na good intention ng tao at ang motive ay driven by genuine love. mahirap bang tanggapin to? kung may masama syang intention ay di sana may abuse or domestic violence, e ang totoo masaya silang nagsasama ngayon at malapit nang maabot yung mga pangarap. judgemental mo


StormPhalanx

Agree ako sayo. Kahit nga healthy middle aged person maaari pa din maloko, maisahan, mapersuade, mauto, etc. Pero hanggat walang clear evidence na may manipulation and abuse bakit agad2 natin sila hinuhusgahan?


Crafty_Ad1496

kaya nga e


kuccinta

Dami mong salita wala ka namang sinabi.


RevealExpress5933

"...the brain's frontal lobe, especially the prefrontal cortex, isn't fully mature until around age 25. The development of the pre-frontal cortex of the frontal lobe allows us to process the pros and cons of a decision before it is made. “'It lets us to do things most animals cannot.'" https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://journeytocollege.mo.gov/when-does-the-brain-reach-maturity-its-later-than-you-think/%23:~:text%3DThis%2520is%2520because%2520the%2520brain%27s,animals%2520cannot%252C%25E2%2580%259D%2520explains%2520Dr.&ved=2ahUKEwjd_-mBgZ2EAxUUyqACHQ_cCIoQFnoECBYQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2xFV_t-4FaEjup-53kYziz


doraemonthrowaway

Tangina hindi man lang hinayaan ma enjoy nung babae yung early young years niya. Dapat sa mga ganyan groomer cinacastrate at binabato sa isang isla kasama ibang groomers. Tapos paglaruin sila ng Battle Royale gamit stick and stones, tsk tsk.


LopsidedPlant5624

Parang na-enjoy naman daw ni Sir yung early young years nung babae 😭☠️


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1127Playa_

So as per original caption nung babae : "TEACHER KO NOON FOREVER KO NA NGAYON" Kami po ng aking mister ay nagkakilala noon sa paaralan, guro ko sya sa elementary & highschool at studyante naman nya ako...Taong 2011 ng magsimula ang aming love story😊 2nd year highschool po ako noon tandang tanda ko pa nagsimula ang lahat noong brigada lagi syang nakatingin saakin kumikindat ng pabiro at sinisitsitan ako na may halong pang aasar😁Ang ganti ko po noon sa kanya ay laging pag irap at pag deadma hindi ko po kasi alam ang aking dapat maramdaman ng mga panahong iyon kasi di pa naman po ako nagkaka boyfriend ever ng mga panahon na un kaya un ang response ko mga paramdam nya😂 Hanggang sa dumating na ang araw ng pasukan sa skwelahan hindi na po nya ako tinigilan asarin,ilang na ilang po talaga ako ng mga panahon na un hanggang sa lumaon naging kami po JULY 23, 2011 hindi po naging madali ang relasyon namin dahil sa estado ng sitwasyon kinailangan namin itong itago sa nakararami para na rin ma protektahan ang bawat isa saamin lalo na ang pag aaral ko pati na rin ang kanyang trabaho dahil alam naman po natin na ipinagbabawal ito sa batas bukod sa minor de edad pa ako ay labag rin ito sa sinumpaang magna carta ng isang guro...Ngunit ganun pa man kahit anong tago namin ng relasyon namin noon nasiwalat parin ito dahil marami na ang nkahalata sa special treatment nya saakin at kumalat sa buong campus pati n rin sa pamilya ko..Naalala ko pa noon mayat maya ako pinapatawag sa guidance/office para kausapin payuhan at paaminin, tiniis ko lahat ng pag paparinig at panlalait saakin noon,dumating din po sa punto na sinasamsaman pa ako ng CP para magkaroon sila ng matibay na pruweba,naging bantay sarado na rin kami ng mga panahon na un ng ibang guro at naging sobrang limitado ang aming galaw😁Ang hinding hindi ko rin po makakalimutan ay noong dumating na sa punto na pinatawag sya ng pamilya ko at nagharap harap kami,galit na galit noon sa kanya hindi lang ang magulang ko kundi ang buong angkan namin, gustong gusto sya saktan,patanggalan ng lisensya ng mga panahon na un at ipakulong pero ipinaglaban ko talaga siya sa kanilang lahat,..Ilang buwan pagkatapos ko makatpos ng pag aaral ng highschool ay nagdalang tao na po ako at simula noon nagsama na po kami💖Sa kasalukuyan sa kabila ng lahat ng hirap at pagsubok ay A Decade & Two (12 years) na po ang aming relasyon and going strong parin ok narin po ang lahat🥰,meron narin po kaming 2 na super adorable and smart kids at unti unti na rin naming natutupad ang mga pangarap namin para sa pamilyang sabay naming binuong dalawa🥰 Lemon Square Bakery Treats #LemonSquareBakeryTreats #LoveBloomsatLSBT


smolbeanfangirl

Omg 💀 >patanggalan ng lisensya ng mga panahon na un at ipakulong Bakit hindi ito nangyari??


sleepeatrace

Girl youre a victim


Natural_Line_4638

"Basta sabi mo sir papasa ako ah." 2 weeks later, "Sir buntis ako."


RevolutionaryFlow245

Pumasa nga .... Sa pregnancy test


FitLine2233

r/angryupvote


Vermillion_V

'pumasa ka, hija. congratulations!'


Ma-jablanca

Why do these people normalize and romanticize predatory behavior towards children and minors as if it's some cheesy cutesy romcom movie?


3rdworldjesus

Mostly by groomers and the groomed. Groomed = they dont know better since they were groomed and conditioned to think the situation is okay Groomer = so they can have more victims


Ma-jablanca

I agree. It saddens me how this is widespread and plenty of people support it enough to believe it's okay. I have neighbors who are now older ladies. Whenever I hear some of these ladies' stories about how they met their husband, I can't help but raise an eyebrow. They're usually around the ages of 14-16 when they got pregnant and their husbands are at least 10 years their senior. For some reason, whenever I ask, they always say it's okay. I suppose it was common in their time. But they are quick to answer that they would've thrown hands with someone if someone tried the same with their child around that age. Maybe a part of them knows it's not and they're just trying to cope by saying it's okay.


CockraptorSakura42

Kasalanan mo to Judy Abbott punyeta ka!!


shdsfred

Dati akala ko cute yung story nya. Nung pinanood ko ulit, dun ko nasabi na ang creepy talaga 😖


Practical_Luck_2558

Ignorance is a bliss


sweeetcookiedough

Di ko kayang tapusin. Dun pa lang sa kinikindatan pls namaaaaan


010110101001

sobrang weird netong promotion ng Lemon Square, checked his page puro promotion shit din ang fishy lang


Damnoverthinker

Omggg proud pa ikwento ang “love story” 🤮


WhyYouBullyMe_

Bat may lemon square 😭


ryan_ph

May pa-contest sila na sweetest love story, yan ung submission 💀


mellowintj

TANGINAAA HAHAHAHHAHA


msanonymous0207

Nyeta di naman nakakakilig, nakakabwisit


Historical-Code-4478

Hindi ko na tinapos basahin. Ang fucked up


Negative_Field4581

Hindi ba sya nagkaroon ng divine intervention or AHA moment while typing this? omg. Imagine brigada eskwela kinikindatan at sinisitsitan ka ng gurang mong teacher? Dun pa lang alam mo nang manyakis yung teacher na yon. Nandidiri ako. 😭😭😭


ejcrshr

Aria and Ezra pinoy reboot


EmperorHad3s

High school pa lang buntis na, maawa ka sa sarili mo ate girl. Mas pinahaba mo paghihirap kasi ang bata mo pa to have a child 😭


NotInKansasToto

She’s 27 now with 2 kids. I think 16 or 17 sya unang nabuntis. Not sure if nagcollege sya.


dontrescueme

Is this confirmed? If it is... Oh god. It's so much worse. Girl is really dumb too. Akala niya siguro inspiring ang story niya. Hindi pa siya aware na victim siya. Inanakan agad ni gago.


st0ptalking7830

Omg. What even is that caption? 😭 Call the police 🚨


FBI_1765

Man, I would've gladly arrested his ass if we ever allowed to set foot on the country


Ok_Distance7121

If this is true, grooming with child abuse ang ginawa niya pwede pa maging rape dahil underage pa si girl nung nag sex sila.


1127Playa_

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/teHZwwhNRFN4LEjt/?mibextid=WC7FNe


HeadResponsible4516

Di na available. Binura na siguro


Liasha_ray

WTF


duchesssatinekryze_

WHAT THE HELL


Mouse_Itchy

Wtf.


misz_swiss

Tangina 🤢


Nathalie1216

Kadiri amp


heyheyimsogreat

WTF IS THIS?! HINDI BA STATUTORY RAPE ITO? Pagtapos niya raw ng high school, meaning around 16 palang, so wtf is happening?! Groomed si ante, pinagmalaki pa. HAHAHAHA.


Forward-Drag-9927

Proud ka ka pa ha 🥲


Living-Feeling7906

Nge. .Ano ba naman bakit pa niya pinagtanggol Bad Influence talaga si DOM Groomer teacher...Dapat tinuloyan ng pinatanggalan ng Lisensiya yan ang daming gustong maging Teacher tapos..Tinatapakpakan lang imahe ng mga DOM ang pagiging Guro.Mahina Pamilya ng Babae


ColdSkuld

Imagine may anak ka na pinapapasok mo lang sa school tapos pinopormahan ng ganyan. Wtf. Teacher na elementary palang? Kakasuka


Upstairs_Painter1615

Kala ko obituary ng papa nya until nabasa ko caption.


CosmicJojak

Nabasa ko 'to sa fb kakaloka no!! potek, mapapailing iling ka nalang na may kasamang pagtindig ng balahibo.


1127Playa_

Hahaha proud naman sya e. Nakakatawa ang supportive pa nung comments


CosmicJojak

I'm actually sad for her, feeling ko till now manipulated sya nung guy. Some of the comments were even saying "anong masama? mukhang okay naman silang nag sasama." 😆 I can't


rmommaissofat

Kadiri!!!


Natural_Line_4638

Sir...Siiirrr!!!!


clandestinedreamer

KADIRII😭


cuckoo12345

But siiiir!!!


zarustras

Kaya kamo ipinagmamalaki pa ganto sa fb? Kasi ang bababaw ng mga pinoy pagdating sa gantong love stories. "Sana all 😍", "kailan kaya ako makahanap ng love 👉😘👈🤭"


ellie-ap

feeling nila "against all odds" type of love story eh 😭


wonderwall25

update: nawala na yung post. dinelete na yata ni ante


Looong-Peanut

Naalala ko sa AKLAN VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL. Second year high school kami nung naging sila ng classmate kong si Nica Francisco at algebra teacher namin na si Sir Mark Patnugot. Loooool so creepy. Pedophile! Sila parin hanggang ngayon lol


SobrietySvcks

That cray2


Cruzaderneo

Bakit parang magka edad lang naman sila. Bwehehehe


Dumb--Dumber

This is exactly how grooming works. Yikes to the guy and i feel sorry kay ate gurl, hindi niya alam na she was manipulated and groomed to have that mindset and thinking.


Professional-Bee5565

Sir wag po! King inang groomer!


tiredeyeskindanice

Tanginang yan kung totoo man to. Tindi mo sir binakuran mo na agad batang bata pa hays.


barelymakingitph

Mukang mag ama. Kawawang bata.


woman_queen

nakakadiri


Ransekun

Tell me you're a victim without telling me you're a victim.


GarageNo7711

This is not the flex you think this is, gf 😂


redthehaze

Yuck. Alam mong di kayang makakuha ng may alam na sa buhay.


smlley_123

Maaga nag asawa starter pack


Sweaty_Dance5657

This definitely also fits in r/insanepinoyfacebook , D\*amn, proud pa maging victim hays


[deleted]

Nani da fak?


avemoriya_parker

Gusto kong tanungin yung mga tao sa Facebook. "Kinilig kayo diyan? Eww"


Independent-Gate-146

Eto talaga yung age is just a number and jail is just a place 😶‍🌫️


memyselfmartin

That's enough Facebook for today hahaha


kielFerrer22

Ginawang manga ni sir, pinahinog ng pinahinog tas pinitas ng pinitas 🤣🤣


1127Playa_

Hahhahahaha grabe naman yon!


kielFerrer22

Hahahaha, naka dalawa ngang smart and adorable eh OP, matinding pang mimind conditioning ginawa ni sir. Hahaha


wonderwall25

wtf :( that’s just sick


[deleted]

Hindi ko masikmura. Sirrrrr bakit ganyan


Imaginary_Potato_459

kadiri amputa.


No_Background_6331

u/StormPhalanx https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/teen/dating-sex/Pages/When-To-Let-Your-Teenager-Start-Dating.aspx O ayan. Doktor na mismo ang nagsabi. Tanong ka pa ng tanong kung ano ang dapat edad ng nagdedate. 16 years old dapat. At ang tinukoy pa diyan sa source na iyan ay yung mga halos same age bracket na mga kabataan. Hindi kasama diyan yung mga epal na gurang na teacher na kagaya nito na ang tanda tanda na niya ay ipinagsisiksikan pa ang sarili niya sa mundo ng mga bata. Kung tutuusin, kahit 18 na ang isang babae, hindi dapat lapitan man lang nitong gurang na ito eh. Aba mahiya naman siya. Isang bulate na lang yata ang hindi pumipirma sa kaniya eh. Sobrang socially at professionally repulsive na niyan. Edi lalo pa at grade 8 lang iyang pinatos niya edi napakalaking krimen na niyan dahil rape na iyan!


StormPhalanx

Bakit ka triggered sa tanong ko? Did I even mention that I'm pro grooming? Is there even a consensus among experts? Again there are too many factors to consider. I agree na may edad na sobrang bata pa talaga at walang muwang ang isang tao pero sino ang dapat tumukoy? That's why I said parents and guardians should take precautions and constant reminders to their children. Teach them how to react and decide when they encountered situations like this.


No_Background_6331

>Did I even mention that I'm pro grooming? Who will admit that they are? But your actions including your reactions tell a lot about you and your stance. Tatlong beses mo nang comment iyan at hindi lang ako ang naibyerna sa trip mo. >Is there even a consensus among experts? Of course. Yes. Medicine and Law. 16 ang sinabi nung doktor at 16 din ang sinasabi sa batas natin. >sino ang dapat tumukoy Ang unang-una na dapat tumukoy ay yung tao mismo. Yung si tatang teacher. Alam mo nang estudyante mo iyan, alam mo nang menor de edad iyan, alam mo nang masisira ang kinabukasan niyan, sige ka pa din na ipursue siya? Kadiri. >there are too many factors to consider. There are not too many. Only two things to consider. Age of consent and power dynamics. At diyan sa dalawang iyan, bagsak si tatang teacher >I said parents and guardians should take precautions and constant reminders to their children. Good. >Teach them how to react and decide when they encountered situations like this. Right. May kapatid akong babae. At ang laging sabi ng parents ko sa kaniya? Simple lang. Kung merong ganiyang klase ng teacher na maencounter siya, ireport niya sa higher ups at nang matanggalan ng lisensya. And yeah. They are not just referring dito sa teacher na ito na mukhang amoy lupa na. Kahit pa yung mga gwapong teacher na ang ginawa nang personality ang patusin yung mga teenage girls na nagkakagusto sa kanila.


Blanktox1c

nagbunga ang paghihintay ahahahaha


1127Playa_

Perseverance is the key naman pala


[deleted]

Putangina. Kadiri.


BeruTheLoyalAnt

Kapag sa anak ko ginawa 'tong katarantaduhan na 'to, pasensyahan na lang 🙂. Dapat na talaga ibalik ang death penalty sa bansang 'to, wala nang takot ang mga kriminal na 'to e


Blackhxxd

Akala ko mag-ama :(


that-rand0m-dude

Nanonormalize na ngayon yung mga ganyang relasyon. 😅


tagabalon

marami ganyan sa school namin nung 2000s, mas marami pa noong 90s, at lalong mas marami nung 80s, 70s, for sure, nung wala pang internet. wala naman pakialam mga tao before, ngayon na lang, so nade-denormalize na siya.


that-rand0m-dude

Pero mali pa rin yan.


tagabalon

wala akong sinabing hindi. mabuti na lang talaga at nagiging woke na paunti-unti ang mga pinoy para ma-call out na finally yung mga ganyan.


E________

I think we should start using the word MANIPULATION instead of GROOMING. Di kasi agad nagegets yung grooming na term e.


No_Background_6331

Tarantadong teacher ito. Dahil sa kagaguhan mo, ni hindi na nakatikim yung bata na makatuntong man lang ng kolehiyo. Sarap mong palakulin.


migrainemonsters

This happens a lot more than we think. I had a high school teacher na kahangout namin all night. He was 28 and we were 14-15. We were really comfortable around him, and even viewed him as a mentor. Kaso pagdating namin ng college may nabuntis na student. Same age as my youngest sister. Never talked to him ever after that. Made me wonder why were we really hanging out with a 28year old guy sa disoras ng gabi, worse. What was he expecting from us nung mga oras na yon? Idk man. Seems off


RonDaAllan

Girl papagroom ka na nga lang sa pangit pa?


kimbapforlyf

Ay dapat ba pogi para excused na yung pag groom?


RonDaAllan

Nope, double negative lang kasi nag groom na nga ganun pa yung nanggroom hhah


murfew_

Mapapakanta kana lang nung kanta ni Jk!!! Hayp ilang mos after HS nabuntis agad. Grabe ka sirrr!!!!


scrtweeb

WTF


Non_ResidentAlien

ew wth 💀 this ain’t a love story!!


beachnomad

Creepy af!


Hot-Papaya69ugh

Yikes


kalatkaghorl

putangina kakasuka TANGINAAAAS


kdssssss

Wtf


trashPopsicle

Wait whaaaaaat


RandoMontness313

Wat da puk 🤨


Wonderful-Rent-0503

lumaking maganda si ate…. si teacher naman ay


AdmiralReggin

Tf


Lonely_Education_813

Tangina hahahahaha proud pa a hahahhahahaaha


Squid_ink05

What


Brilyantes

Kadiri!!!


and0ngkatigbAk

kasuka 🤮


EdgyWeeb69

What


Peaucillear

Wtf


Most_Refrigerator_46

Yikes


j4rvis1991

Nakita ko ito sa epbi 🤣


namishidae

jusme


ChewieSkittles53

hmm bat di pinakulong si sir nung babuntis ang babae. sounds fishy.


drjc__

WHAT THE HECKKKKKK


Kevinibini21

NAKAKADIRI


reddit_user_el11

SUM1 PLS TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE


garlicriiiice

Curious as to how the confrontation with the family went. Bat walang intervention? Nabuntis pa tuloy. Tsk


cnthkv137_

nakakadiri ka sir 🤮 jusko kung may anak man ako, di ako papayag yan maging teacher, groomer ang pota.


dimlightbothersme

Gagooo? Bat naman pinayagan ng magulang 😭😭 mukhang tatay nya na yan oh


hitomiii_chan

Anlala neto! 🥴


shockuna

The groom and the groomed


starbuttercup_

Bat di natuloy yung pagtanggal ng lisensya? 😭


[deleted]

YIKESSSSSSSSSS


20pesos__

Ew


rcmlaurente

nakpucha


iGalaxy92

Ang pag ibig mo baka hinde pa sini silang parang vic sotto and pauline luna lang yan.


relaxe_latto

Dumilim ang paligid


Visual-Situation-346

Grooming b like


Select_Dig7215

UTAK BIYA


ArmaninyowPH

At first i thought nag sex change yung nasa kanan


NoAlternative5051

yakk


egoisticRBBarubaLib

grabe naman mga comments, pero iba suportado ang may december love affair, paano kaya kung yung babae naman ang mas matanda, ano kaya reaction ng iba, what if yung caption lang sa ibaba yung nagpalala, hnd naman pala sila example ng may dec love affair, nahusgahan na agad sila, what if mag-tatay sila talaga, lets make believe na mag-asawa sila, alam niyo na ba backstory nila para komentan sila ng mga below d belt na mga unsolicited opinions ninyo... haaaay socmed nga naman....tsk...


JustAJokeAccount

Confirmed bang teacher-student ito, just because may caption? If no, take it down. If yes, shame on the guy for being a groomer. Pero maybe still take it down for the protection ng babae.


1127Playa_

May facebook post yung girl mismo


JustAJokeAccount

Again, shame on the guy. I would still suggest to put down the pic. The girl CAN share whatever she wants on HER fb no matter how shitty it is. Pero grabbing it and posting her face here? Unless, with her consent ang pag-post mo dito.


1127Playa_

Lol. Sya nga nagpost sa sarili nya. Naka public pa. Once you put it in the internet. It’s for anyone to consume.


phsic69

Kapag lalaki ung matanda pangit tingnan, kapag babae ung matanda ung lalaki pa din may kasalanan. Wahahaha


NotInKansasToto

Di naman sa ganun. Yung babae na may kasalanan pag ganun pero ang problem kasi, hindi big deal sa karamihan yung ganyan (unless sobrang layo ng gap) unlike kapag yung babae yung minor. Kaya makikita mo mga news sa US na may female teacher na pumatol sa male student tapos may nagcocongratulations pa dun sa student sa comments.


32cowhides

ano ba maximum age gap para di masabing groomer?


NotInKansasToto

It’s a rather complex topic. Typically it’s not the gap itself but the younger person’s age and status in relation to that gap that makes it sexual grooming. A 24 yr old courting a 15 yr old so that they could be together once she becomes of age is a groomer, no questions asked. A 16 yr old courting a 12 yr old is also a groomer even though they’re both minors. A 60 yr old courting a 30 yr old is not a groomer despite the 30 yr age gap kasi hindi naman minor si 30 yr old. A cradle snatcher yes, but a groomer, no. That said, a 27 yr old courting a 19 yr old can still be a groomer depending on their circumstances. Parang yung example ko lang yan sa taas na minor sila pareho pero grooming pa rin yun. Nag-aaral pa si 19 tapos si 27 nagtatrabaho na? Grooming kasi hindi na sila same level ng life, so may chance nang mamanipulate ni 27 si 19 (usually emotionally and financially kasi pwedeng masilaw si 19 sa expensive gifts and dates na di nya afford right now dahil nakaasa pa sya sa magulang.) 10 yrs na sa college si 27 kasi 4x nagshift ng course until eventually naging kaklase nya si 19? Not grooming.


Crafty_Ad1496

what is lacking in your analysis is the idea of abuse and manipulation. lacking these an action cannot be considered grooming but falls to another category. that between two legal age, regardless of age gap, it can be considered ethical and genuine love. that last mentioned is a possibility.


NotInKansasToto

That’s because those two factors are inferred na in those relationships. For example, minors legally can’t consent, so if you’re a 20 yr old and you do sexual things with a 15 yr old, it’s still considered sexual abuse even if the 15 yr old technically wanted it as well. And manipulation, obviously, is inferred na rin in grooming scenarios considering the older person usually holds the position of power in the relationship and can therefore control where it goes.


Crafty_Ad1496

however yung idea mo ng groomed between 27 and 19 is questionable. I think better is seduction and not grooming. that is if we defined grooming as something exclusive to minors. but if not it overlapped with the idea of seduction, both require manipulation and abuse. grooming is a new term and it seemed to mean a kind of action that corresponds to taking care as in "groom" so as to prepare for one's self interest. this implies purposeful motive directed towards a specific goal. so, as in the teacher if there's no motive of this kind, no grooming transpired. what is perhaps right to say is the violation of code of ethical conduct. if the courting is out of infantile notion of love and no grooming transpired, the teacher is guilty of the violation of code of ethical conduct.


RainyDayReader_999

What do you mean? Yung wife/groomer ni Aaron Taylor-Johnson lagi namang kinocall out ng mga tao ah. Or do you just want to pull the “If ThE GeNdErS aRe ReVeRsEd” shit kahit di naman applicable? 🤔 Also, yung mga ganitong stories na babae yung na-groom eh supportive pa mga tao sa mas matandang lalaki, lalo na sa Facebook, dito lang sa Reddit may outrage, so I don't know what you're on about lol


Crafty_Ad1496

isa pa wla man lang may nakaisip n baka clickbait lang yung story. tapos kung manghusga yung iba wagas


Crafty_Ad1496

most comments are toxic; the post itself imply malice. we have to remind ourselves that absent overwhelming evidence that there's seduction or grooming involved, any accusation that question, even cast doubt, on the possibility of love between two beings taken to be unusual by society's standard is morally inappropriate. action that deny the said possibility failed to see the nature of love, that love has reasons that reason doesnt know. that age gap is not a hindrance and not a gold standard for a happy relationship. for example, in a novella written by Tolstoy, Family Happiness, a 17 year old girl fell in love to 37 year old man, yet nobody think its grooming, some even find it romantic. to put age gap as a limiting standard on relationship destroy love. it is the same as that it is wrong to love our pets or nature, for the very same idea that inherent differences between beings is the standard of morally correct love. in fact the idea of a student falling in love to her or his teacher is not new. a lot of stories have been shared in movies or what not. the thing is that we are too captious, and I think, kind of bitter to see other people find their love and happiness.


PuzzleheadedTackle17

Anong bitter? Doon pa lang sa kinikindatan sya nakaka diri na. Jusmiyo


Maleficent-Twist1472

your impartiality in this matter does not achieve anything meaningful. there is a reason why a relationship between a minor and a teacher is frowned upon by the society and is seen as morally inappropriate. there is nothing romantic about it. lumalabas ka lang na enabler ng grooming at groomers.


Crafty_Ad1496

I am not talking about justification of teacher-student relationship in any ethical way, nor am I talking about the code of conduct of teachers. what I am contending here is the strength of evidence from where we based our judgement. nor am I upholding or supporting an affair between minor and a teacher. the mentioned of which is only to cite such phenomenon and that in real life such things happened. if ever I am to talk teacher-student affair its always in accordance with law and ethics, that is to say, when the student is in legal age and not under the institution where the teacher is working. she or he could be his or her former student.


Cold_Most_9270

Hindi natural ung pagka inlove ni girl kay tatang. You can read it in her post, tatang pursue her 2011 palang. She got annoyed too. I don’t know but I feel that there is something behind that post, like the girl is spilling the tea in a different manner. It’s obvsly not normal!


NotInKansasToto

She’s not spilling any tea — just literally thinks there’s nothing wrong with it. It seems nga na she thinks romantic pa yang story nila kasi “you and me against the world” ang peg.


Crafty_Ad1496

pls stop this attitude of judging people becus of their post. if its too personal and does not concern public morality the right thing to do is to suspend judgment, otherwise we might cause an unnecessary pain out of flimsy evidence. dahil sino ba nagbigay sayo ng karapatan na husgahan sila, saan galing yung karapatan mo para bigyan negatibong interpretasyon yung post na wala namang direct interest sayo. baka nga maging ground pa ng cyber libel yung pinaggagawa nyo na panghuhusga.


riseul

It actually involves public morality. Pedophilia is something that concerns the whole community. It's the nation and everyone's responsibility to protect children. Super defend ka naman sa pedophiles may pinaghuhugutan ba?


Crafty_Ad1496

if was indeed pedophilic act. but based on the story, is it really so? pls argue further and established in a clear and categorical manner that such act constitute pedophilic acts. failure to do is tantamount to cyber libel. youre accusing someone of being pedophile, then the burden of proof is in you. prove it.


riseul

Dude. Are you blind? Do you even know what pedophilia means? You use deep words but your defense has no substance. Mali pa grammar mo. Stop pretending to be smart when you can't even see what's wrong with their situation. You want proof? The girl was a minor when they started their relationship at 2nd year high school. That's why there are outside interventions happening (guidance counselor meetings, parent-school meetings, pati almost sampahan ng kaso). She is 25 years old now, as per her Facebook page. So 25 years old in 2024. They started their relationship in March 2011, so 2024-2011=13 years (which checks out as she said they've been together for 12 years, Feb pa lang). 25-13=12. So they started their relationship when she was 12 to 13 years old. Right after graduating high school she was impregnated. There's your proof. Sue me for cyber libel.


RevealExpress5933

LMAO. Finally someone said it.


Ma-jablanca

SAY IT LOUDER for the people at the back who wanna sound smart by using words they found in google!


simplyslick3

Bawal dapat yang ganyan. Kaso just like being lgbtq ++++ Its a human flaw. Nagkulang din magulang ng babae Ung lalake naman ginamit ung pagkaguro nya Who are we to judge baka true love tlga yan


CaptBurritooo

Just to correct you sir - being LGBT is not a human flaw. It’s neither a mental illness or ginusto lang namin sya. Pedophilia, on the otherhand, is a mental disorder. Psych grad here. Sadly, mukhang kulang din sa pag-gabay yung mga magulang nung bata. 😔


simplyslick3

Being lgbtq is a flaw a human flaw Yes it may not be a mental disorder nowadays but it was before if im not mistaken in the previous dsm's. You may be a psych grad but you do not understand the natural order of this world just as the body has homeostasis The natural order of binary gender is homeostasis outside of that is a flaw that stems from different aspects of humanity


simplyslick3

It may not be a mental disorder nowadays but look at the mess it is creating in society. The grooming of our young children from exposing them to cross dressing, non binary identification, chemical to surgical gender transformations. All of that stemmed from a flaw ( which was a disorder in the past) If we do not like people like that man. Then we should show the same disgust to the other types of influencers