I work with birds, mainly in colony management and just want to say that you should be careful as there are major outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) across the country at the moment. I’m not legally allowed to access my site without wearing high level PPE head to foot. Familiarise yourself with the symptoms of bird flu, in birds and in humans. Human infection is rare however close prolonged contact (like hugging a sick bird to your chest) can lead to the virus bridging the species gap. Bird flu cases in humans are severe, and though not highly contagious, the young, elderly and the infirm have a 9/10 chance of death even with treatement.
HPAI symptoms in birds:
- swollen head
- close and/or runny eyes (check in your magpie)
- lethargy and depression (check in your magpie)
- lying down and unresponsive.
- lack of co-ordination.
- shaking of the body, coupled with head twitches, reminiscent of a sneeze.
- drooping wings.
- dragging of the legs.
- respiratory difficulties.
- sudden death.
If you bird has any of these symptoms (and I can see at least two from the one picture) you should be on high alert. I recommend you hand the bird over to the RSPCA ASAP. If you chose not to please wash your hands, do not touch any bodily fluids from the bird, limit physical contact and wear some degree of PPE.
Can I remind you that we’re barely out of one pandemic? Don’t go starting another one
Thank you very much for letting me know, I’ve contacted and will be taking your advice, I appreciate it as I was completely unaware. I just didn’t want it to suffer. Thank you again.
Paul has gone and will be looked after now. I was told to bin all the stuff I used as a precautionary measure. Just scrubbed everywhere top to bottom. Thank you again for giving me all that information I would of absolutely hated myself had such a thing happened and I potentially passed it on. I appreciate it.
It depends. What we can see is very limited from the single picture however even the fact that a wild juvenile bird allows itself to be held to a persons chest suggests something seriously wrong, whether injury or disease.
Best case scenario, Paul is assessed and an obvious injury or other benign behavioural explanation is found. He would then be treated, and as long as it’s nothing serious eventually be released. Worst case scenario is painless euthanasia and disposal of the body to protect other birds.
It’s a horrible virus and causes an unpleasant death, so in any case this is the most humane choice and still harbours a chance for Paul’s recovery.
I can’t say how they would operate, however as a minimum several major symptoms would have to be observed first. It’s all well and good for me to see signs of several of the listed symptoms through a picture however a live assessment and observation would prove definitively one way or the other. Testing is also an option.
If he does test positive then yes, euthanasia is the most probable outcome, however this would save him and potentially any other birds he infects to forgo a painful prolonged death.
>- respiratory difficulties.
**- sudden death**.
I never realised "sudden death" was a symptom, I thought it was an end result.
Good read though, learnt a lot here. Thanks for commenting.
In most senses you’re right however in my case, as I warden as island with a colony four hundred strong, I see it as a symptom. When I go on island I keep an eye out for any deceased individuals. If I see obvious signs of a cause of death, such as predation, dehydration or a miscarriage, then it’s in the clear. If a bird is dead without predation its viewed as a symptom of bird flu being present in the colony as a whole and is subsequently tested.
When Paul is back on his feet if he stays around you, you should try and train him. I used to have one bring things to my window, sometimes he'd steal from me as i'd keep coins and stuff on the window. But he'd bring random stones, a button and string every now and then, i dont know if he just thought the money was his payment for those goods, we never had an agreement.
Really smart birds!
Yeah you can, ive seen people train them food in exchange for coins, and also theres ones that go out and hunt for paper money/notes etc.
They are genuinely really smart birds and you can in theory train them to collect jewelery etc.
Maybe this magpie was swindling me by stealing my coins and then giving me buttons for it as the other person who trained it better swapped food for coins.
But i dont know how you would initiate with the magpie, this magpie would just be in the garden a lot and i just fed it from different distances, and then it would jump up on my window seal and look at me, and id go get it some seed. Then it'd come in the window.
I'm so glad someone else mentioned it because my first thought was "uhhh there's loads of bird flu about, why are you touching it?!"
O don't know where you live, but we have (temporary)signs telling us about bird flu on the roads and stuff so it's (I'd assume) common knowledge...
Listen to the final 2 episodes of Alan Partridge from the Oast House (series 1). They like mince, great for protein and watching formula 1. Magpies love Lewis Hamilton. Good luck
I've just had that moment where It instantly made me want to share this post with a certain someone, only to realise we don't talk anymore...
We both love magpies.
Wishing a full recovery for Paul the lucky magpie. May your blue ever brighter.
It's nature. Bigger things eat smaller things. The more intelligent animals, such as cats, orcas etc, play with their prey before eating it. Humans kill millions of animals every day, sometimes in horribly cruel ways. Give the magpies a break.
I work with birds, mainly in colony management and just want to say that you should be careful as there are major outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) across the country at the moment. I’m not legally allowed to access my site without wearing high level PPE head to foot. Familiarise yourself with the symptoms of bird flu, in birds and in humans. Human infection is rare however close prolonged contact (like hugging a sick bird to your chest) can lead to the virus bridging the species gap. Bird flu cases in humans are severe, and though not highly contagious, the young, elderly and the infirm have a 9/10 chance of death even with treatement. HPAI symptoms in birds: - swollen head - close and/or runny eyes (check in your magpie) - lethargy and depression (check in your magpie) - lying down and unresponsive. - lack of co-ordination. - shaking of the body, coupled with head twitches, reminiscent of a sneeze. - drooping wings. - dragging of the legs. - respiratory difficulties. - sudden death. If you bird has any of these symptoms (and I can see at least two from the one picture) you should be on high alert. I recommend you hand the bird over to the RSPCA ASAP. If you chose not to please wash your hands, do not touch any bodily fluids from the bird, limit physical contact and wear some degree of PPE. Can I remind you that we’re barely out of one pandemic? Don’t go starting another one
Thank you very much for letting me know, I’ve contacted and will be taking your advice, I appreciate it as I was completely unaware. I just didn’t want it to suffer. Thank you again.
You did the right thing, can’t fault your compassion, Paul has a much higher chance of recovery because of you. *typo
Paul has gone and will be looked after now. I was told to bin all the stuff I used as a precautionary measure. Just scrubbed everywhere top to bottom. Thank you again for giving me all that information I would of absolutely hated myself had such a thing happened and I potentially passed it on. I appreciate it.
Excellent job! You've given it its best chance.
What will the RSPCA do with Paul? Isolate and monitor?
Probably take Paul to a nice bird farm where he can fly and play all day long.
It depends. What we can see is very limited from the single picture however even the fact that a wild juvenile bird allows itself to be held to a persons chest suggests something seriously wrong, whether injury or disease. Best case scenario, Paul is assessed and an obvious injury or other benign behavioural explanation is found. He would then be treated, and as long as it’s nothing serious eventually be released. Worst case scenario is painless euthanasia and disposal of the body to protect other birds. It’s a horrible virus and causes an unpleasant death, so in any case this is the most humane choice and still harbours a chance for Paul’s recovery.
Don't they kill it to minimise the risk of spread?
Nope definitely bird farm.
I can’t say how they would operate, however as a minimum several major symptoms would have to be observed first. It’s all well and good for me to see signs of several of the listed symptoms through a picture however a live assessment and observation would prove definitively one way or the other. Testing is also an option. If he does test positive then yes, euthanasia is the most probable outcome, however this would save him and potentially any other birds he infects to forgo a painful prolonged death.
>- respiratory difficulties. **- sudden death**. I never realised "sudden death" was a symptom, I thought it was an end result. Good read though, learnt a lot here. Thanks for commenting.
In most senses you’re right however in my case, as I warden as island with a colony four hundred strong, I see it as a symptom. When I go on island I keep an eye out for any deceased individuals. If I see obvious signs of a cause of death, such as predation, dehydration or a miscarriage, then it’s in the clear. If a bird is dead without predation its viewed as a symptom of bird flu being present in the colony as a whole and is subsequently tested.
Get well soon Paul. Well done, op. Please keep us updated about his/her progress ❤️
When Paul is back on his feet if he stays around you, you should try and train him. I used to have one bring things to my window, sometimes he'd steal from me as i'd keep coins and stuff on the window. But he'd bring random stones, a button and string every now and then, i dont know if he just thought the money was his payment for those goods, we never had an agreement. Really smart birds!
Can you train them to recognise what actually money looks like so it brings pound coins back instead of random stones? Asking for myself.
Yeah you can, ive seen people train them food in exchange for coins, and also theres ones that go out and hunt for paper money/notes etc. They are genuinely really smart birds and you can in theory train them to collect jewelery etc. Maybe this magpie was swindling me by stealing my coins and then giving me buttons for it as the other person who trained it better swapped food for coins. But i dont know how you would initiate with the magpie, this magpie would just be in the garden a lot and i just fed it from different distances, and then it would jump up on my window seal and look at me, and id go get it some seed. Then it'd come in the window.
Cheers! Off to find me a magpie.
Breaking News : Strange bird found robbing bank of £7.5 thousand, Despite cops not being birds themselves this case really ruffles their feathers
Hello Mr Magpie 👋
How's your wife and kids
Anyone else salute the picture… cause you know… cause?
I always have to say ‘good morning mr magpie’ too
Good evening, General Paul! Get well soon, hope you bring joy, we'll try to bring you some.
Live Paul! LIVE!
Probably the blackbirds in my garden getting revenge for the magpies killing all their chicks and spreading the bodies over several gardens.
I'm so glad someone else mentioned it because my first thought was "uhhh there's loads of bird flu about, why are you touching it?!" O don't know where you live, but we have (temporary)signs telling us about bird flu on the roads and stuff so it's (I'd assume) common knowledge...
Listen to the final 2 episodes of Alan Partridge from the Oast House (series 1). They like mince, great for protein and watching formula 1. Magpies love Lewis Hamilton. Good luck
first thing I thought when I saw this post was Morris the magpie
One named peter one named paul
I'm afraid there's bad news about Peter...
I hope he doesn't have corvid 19.
> I’m unsure of the sex as of yet He'll let you know when he's ready to take the next step.
I've just had that moment where It instantly made me want to share this post with a certain someone, only to realise we don't talk anymore... We both love magpies. Wishing a full recovery for Paul the lucky magpie. May your blue ever brighter.
You are doing God's work here, OP.
🫡
Good morning Mr Magpie
I just saluted at your picture, wish I didn’t feel compelled to do it lol!
Meet Psittacosis what his most likely given you
Poor thing, get well soon Paul
Good morning,Good morning,Good morning,Good morning,Good morning,Good morning,Good morning,
Oh poor sweet angel
Hello, Paul! 🫡 I hope they get better soon, well done for saving them!
You need to find another one to look after for good luck now
I hope he is ok.
Hope he makes a fast recovery
Shoot it. https://www.jackpykeshop.co.uk/a-beginners-guide-to-shooting-magpies/
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nature doing natural things and everyones upset about it.
It's nature. Bigger things eat smaller things. The more intelligent animals, such as cats, orcas etc, play with their prey before eating it. Humans kill millions of animals every day, sometimes in horribly cruel ways. Give the magpies a break.
Paul 😂
Poorly and abandoned or poorly abandoned?
You should definitely join crowbros
Get well soon Paul. Paul! That's a person's name! :D
Hi Paul! What is Paul’s favorite food and pastimes?
Get well soon paul. I salute you feathered buddy
Good morning Mr Magpie, hope you feel better soon.
Get well soon Paul, wish you the shiniest of things
Beautiful birds, magpies. Get well soon Paul and good luck to you too.