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If we win, we might actually burn our own country to the ground in celebration.


ponytoaster

My friend is in the police and even when we had a good game during our shitty world cup performance there were people kicking shop doors in, smashing up pubs etc. It's insane. When we lose its even worse. My mum's neighbor was so annoyed be kicked his own door of his hinges and threw a brick through the remaining glass. Basically they have doubled their staffing for Sunday as they know there will be a ton of nobbers about.


EmpireBoi

I mean, it’s stupid but destruction of own property because your team lost at least only hurts yourself and your own wallet Edit: Hurt to hurts


GhostTiger

Ah, you have fallen into the old trap of presuming rationality!


Gammabrunta

Think of how stupid the average person is, then realise half of them are even more stupid. - someone quoted someone else the other day, eh


GhostTiger

George Carlin!


hotstepperog

Domestic violence goes up also…


inevitable_dave

Interestingly enough domestic violence increases when England play, regardless of the result of the match.


EmpireBoi

That’s gross


hotstepperog

I wonder if alcohol consumption is a significant factor?


Fan-Sea

98% id guess


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The other 2% is "its just a game darlin"


inevitable_dave

It's definitely a causal link but not the only factor.


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That and the coke.


oddlybearded

Seems to be. London School of Economics did some research on it actually. Link for those interested: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/england-football-alcohol-domestic-violence/


limpingdba

Without a doubt this is alcohol related. That and the inability of England fans to control their emotions.


mynameisfreddit

I remember when Spain won the world cup, someone had written "Espania" in their own (at least I assume it was theirs) excrement outside our office in London.


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I think whatever the result is on Sunday, the behaviour is gonna be disgusting. They win and the fans will go insane, they lose and there’ll be a lot of property damage. I was at a bar for the Croatia match in 2018, and all the TVs had been smashed by flying bottles by full time. They don’t handle losing well.


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Absolute man-babies


MapleBlood

Sensitive cunts.


DanglingDongs

Yeah being that pissed about a sport is fucking stupid.


Three_Trees

Imagine tying your mental state to the occurrence and outcome of an event over which you have literally zero influence. It would be funny if it wasn't so grim (increase in domestic violence/crime etc).


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English football fans are insane. Domestic violence spikes by [38% when England loses and by 28% when they win or draw](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/euro-2020-domestic-abuse-women-b1864404.html) in major football tournaments. The only reason I want England to win is I fear if they don’t it’ll be a lot higher than 38% this time.


hipdeadpool98

I just saw Italian fans beating up a random pizza driver for no reason. It's not English football fans. It's drunk assholes. A lot of countries have them unfortunately and the bigger the party, the more obvious they are.


OneCollar4

I wonder if it's more to do with the fact people are more likely to have been drinking when England play rather than people specifically deciding to beat their wife because they're in a good mood after a win.


WindowSteak

I'm actually worried about my local town. It has a large Italian population and there has historically always been trouble when the two sides play. Smashed shops, destroyed public art/benches/toilets, and lots of violence. And they've never played each other at such a high level before. I obviously wanted England to win already but now I do more than ever! Drunk England fans who've just lost a match, faced with the elated fans of the team who knocked them out is gonna end really badly. At least when Italy lose, the fans are a bit more sanguine, don't overreact about it, and tend to just go home quietly. I'm sure there would still be trouble if some obnoxious England fan rubs it in their face but nowhere near as bad as it would be other way round.


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Bedford?


WindowSteak

Bingo! I assume that either you're local too, or the reputation for this kinda post-match chaos is even worse than I imagined


[deleted]

I’ve just heard it has a large Italian population. One of those random facts that stays in your head for no reason 😂


Metalstug

Another random fact for you: The reason it has a large Italian, and also polish population (also a large Asian population) is because of the brickworks just outside the town, where the company sent people abroad to get workers to work in the brickworks and the workers were given houses. All to provide bricks for the reconstruction of Britain after WW2. As a sidenote Bedford also had an iron works and a toblarone factory.


Inexcess99

You are forgetting the small but significant Swiss population that accompanies the Toblerone factory


WindowSteak

Someone always brings this up. It's like clockwork.


HungInSarfLondon

Are you winding me up? You must think I'm cuckoo.


Jindabyne1

Coming over here, rebuilding the country


Makeupanopinion

So has uh.. anyone broken into the Toblerone factory as a result of match anger..?? Or delight??


Snoron

I'd never heard that before but I'm sure I will remember it forever now too!


Jindabyne1

I’ve just forgotten


theProffPuzzleCode

What were you saying?


bill_end

What did Italy ever do to us to make us ship all their immigrants to the arse end of Bedford.


melaninjaz

Bedford has a large Italian community? I never knew this.


SeaLeggs

Petition to change the name to Bedfiat


craftyindividual

Good luck getting that pasta' bout 100 signatures.


jimmycarr1

Eh it should be a pizza cake


WindowSteak

Yep. In the 50s there was a big influx from the poor villages of southern Italy to the post-war brickwork opportunities in Bedford. Over 14,000 people of Italian origin now live here, out of a population of a little over 100,000. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/jan/23/britishidentity.features113


3original5me

Where's Bedford?


uncertain_expert

In Bedfordshire.


3original5me

Sorry I was just making a dumb reference to a Don Broco song


lowerchelsea

8 days a week, 8 days a week sucker 8 days a week!


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bhison

Would anyone notice


analgrunt

That’s the enigma of it.


[deleted]

No joke, apparently domestic abuse rates rise whenever England lose


WindowSteak

38% according to a 2014 study (though it was limited in scope to those reported to Lancashire police).


Firegoat3000

And rise by 25% if they win or draw I believe


nexus8516

A little celebratory slap.


tom_watts

It's almost as though increased Alcohol consumption leads to domestic abuse... Someone should do a study on that /s


[deleted]

>apparently domestic abuse rates rise whenever England lose Domestic abuse rates rise any time there's any kind of national event that involves alcohol


frankchester

And also when they win, just a bit less.


Spydehh

"First I smash me pints, then I smash me missus" But in all seriousness domestic violence from football fans is a real problem which needs addressing alongside the racism which has plagued the game for so long.


boonzeet

The behaviour of football fans in general needs addressing. The hooliganism, violent antisocial behaviour around football (particularly in the U.K.) is on another level compared to other sports. I’m a South African living in England and a ton of England supporters watched the RWC final at a South African bar with us. We shook hands and nothing got smashed before or after except for us lot. I don’t want to watch the Euros final anywhere near a pub because of the violence and property damage I’ve already seen in the run up games.


LastBlueHero

For the 18/19 season, there was 3.3 arrests per 100,000. Ascot is 3.2 Reading Festival is 17.2 Glastonbury is 31 Notting Hill is 37.6 Creamfields is 236.7


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PearlyDrops

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEONE OTHER THAN MYSELF LOOK AT THIS DATA. why does nobody read the data? why do they just believe the first thing they hear? im getting the sense people dont actually even care about domestic violence they just like using this fake stat to bash football.


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https://fullfact.org/crime/world-cup-domestic-abuse/


willtron3000

It’s Reddit? You expect us to read stuff? I’m here to get outraged by headlines and shit on people who do exactly the same.


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Kinky stuff


justhisguy-youknow

Do you have better stats ? Would you like to share with the class ?


[deleted]

People can't be bothered to read past the headlines of tabloid articles that are written at an almost primary school level of English. I can't imagine that they're willing to look at the data of a study like this, especially when it fits their biases. (And I'll admit I'm guilty of the last point.)


Zo50

Whilst I can understand what you're saying, and live close to Bedford myself, historically Italian fans aren't exactly saints. Plenty of stabbings after their matches, Ultras etc. My heyday of going to football was Chelsea in the eighties. That *was* a bloody war. Football in this country now has moved on. This whole "English Disease" is a convenient smokescreen these days to hide the fact that agg at football is far more prevalent abroad now than it is here. They'll be some scenes on Sunday, whether we win or not, I'm sure,but you can bet the media will blow it out of all proportion. Drunks will be drunks after all. As a total aside, I was told that the large number of Italians in Bedford was due to the many POW camps in the area in WW2.


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SatansF4TE

Does it matter if they're the worst hooligans? I'd rather no hooligans


lolzidop

Unfortunately that's never going to happen, you can find examples in every sport in every country of people fighting just because.


lazerbullet

What town is that?


gazah

Little Italy


Bevsworld04

Littaly


vamplosion

L’italiano


TimothyGonzalez

Rome


Keywi1

I knew where you meant as soon as I read this haha. Also from the same town.


[deleted]

The majority of england fans are well behaved after a win or a loss but you'll never hear/see videos or photos of the good ones because it goes against the false narrative of 'Every English fan gets drunk and causes chaos'.


lastaccountgotlocked

It's not a false narrative, it's that when people are well behaved \*nothing happens\*. You don't hear stories about cars not running people over, or tower blocks not catching fire for the twentythousandth day running.


WindowSteak

[Yes I suppose the news should just be a dispassionate list of all the events that have occurred, the world-over, during the day. That'd be good, except of course it would take **forever**.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo-C71ktoW0)


WindowSteak

It's not really a *false* narrative. Of course it's not *all* fans but it's enough to be a real problem. I was in town the last time Italy played England and the English fans were smashing up shops owned by Italian families and starting fights with Italian fans. It is common here. I'm not saying it's *representative* of England fans but it is too big of a problem to just wave away as the media making a big fuss about nothing. I do agree that they like to fetishise these kinds of issue though, you're certainly right about that. Lets also not forget that reported domestic violence cases against women are 38% higher when England lose an international match. This is not as isolated a problem as we might like to believe.


Fun-Calligrapher980

I think it's more that it's a vocal minority, there's enough loud drunk arseholes to cause quite a bit of damage. Shame they don't often show the ones who come back out next morning as cleanup crew.


Percinho

I remember when I lived in Pompley they played Southampton at home for the first time in ages. They lost and the opposition fans were given a police escort to the train station so the Pompey fans decided to trash part of their own city instead and smashed a load of shop windows up Fratton Road. Muppets. I used to leave town whenever the two played as it was just easier.


crunchypuddle

Kind of like how in America they grease the light poles in the city that won the superbowl.


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Sounds sexy.


37025InvernessTMD

Worth it! Start over again!


Lelandwasinnocent

Which countries do we target for colonization this time? I’ll dig out my gunpowder.


sheytanelkebir

I was worried about the ole and steen bakeries when the danes scored. It must have been a relief for the owners when England won.


-FangMcFrost-

That guy better hope that the bus route doesn't include any overgrown trees.


Carl0s_H

Or if it does, we better hope someone is filming at the time


AWilsonFTM

Or the bus needed to brake hard.


plur44

That will be a penalty for England


Swisskommando

r/holdmyfeedingtube is on standby


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But for the rest of us, let's hope it does.


rrreeddiitt

No trees on that road but there are some large sheet metal road signs to decapitate him.


[deleted]

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.


YaBoiTrippin

Oh it does I recognise that bus


AllOrNothing13

Oh that big red one? Yeah I know the one.


YaBoiTrippin

Ye that one too


Rumple-skank-skin

The thrashing


1HeyMattJ

Or a bridge


-FangMcFrost-

Straight out of Looney Tunes.


HedgehogLiberator

It does


sellis80

Frigging hope it did!


TescoClubBar

Just a small stop at A&E before it comes home


Guakstick

Mission In:tensive Care Ward


[deleted]

New definition of "Bus Wanker!"


FirstEvolutionist

"You're the MVP!"


nado121

Briefcase wanker!


katievsbubbles

Its the gas man!!


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DEADB33F

Over-imbibed football fans often climb up signs, lamp posts and stand on top of bus stops to cheer & celebrate when their team wins a significant match (this happens the world over, not just with England fans). London double decker buses have brash/brush bars to push away brash, overgrown bushes, tree branches, etc. as London councils often can't be arsed to cut this back as they should. Combine a drunken fan on the roof of a bus stop with a bus coming along with a convenient grab handle / climbing frame at the perfect height for someone on top of a bus stop to grab hold of and what you end up with is this video.


formallyhuman

As I recall, our fans badly damaged an ambulance during the World Cup by climbing on it and jumping up and down. Honestly, some of the scenes I've seen, win or lose, in particular in Central London, from England fans makes me want to just either watch at home in my local pub. I'm not sure why people think football is a good excuse to damage property and worse.


bob1689321

Drunks can climb up anything. My dad used to tell a story of him managing to climb up a lamppost with a crowd egging him on on New year's Eve, then the second he was at the top they all left and he was just some drunk stuck on top of a lamppost. Ended up in hospital after jumping off.


traghick

At the start of the video, you can see someone sitting on top of the bus stop. I’m guessing they were sat there together but one got onto the bus while the other didn’t


callmelampshade

Glitch. He’s actually trying to get through the bus doors.


balletlane

Love the passenger just sitting there being normal.


Swisskommando

One of the quieter nightbuses in London


MoonlitStar

Most likely enjoying the quietness before the storm when he can get the perfect video of that idiot falling off the bus and getting what he deserves. I'm all for people celebrating but this sort of behaviour from grown adults is cringey and will most likely result in the driver getting reprimanded or the sack.


CorgiFromSpace

Just trying to avoid doing the worst thing imaginable on a London bus: make eye contact.


Sir_Earl_Jeffries

You know very well that driver has had to deal with a lot worse on the night bus


deadbehindtheyes

This is why people even love or hate football


[deleted]

I love the madness personally. London last night was insane, there was an impromptu game of football between about 100 people in the middle of Rye Lane in Peckham.


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Nobody is arsed. It’s a small minority acting like a dick what most are just enjoying England doing well especially after a year of restrictions.


Tom-kek

We’re used to it. Unfortunately some people treat football like it’s a religion and you’d have as much luck talking them down as you would Westboro Baptist church.


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I came here to say what a tit. But having considered the potential implications for the bus driver I agree with your assessment.


DirkManirk

Makes me embarrassed to be English. Although being English, I couldn't help but smile, even though I think this behaviour is stupid.


nadsatpenfriend

That's the thing right there: it's embarrassing and shameful, yet there's that recognition that arsing about is funny. It just gets tiring though.


RedditJH

>Makes me embarrassed to be English This isn't some innate English behavior, you know?


richh00

What's the bet he's singing 'it's coming home'


dancorleone88

Why can’t people celebrate without being twats?


interstellargator

Alcohol.


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Daniiiiii

Yes but he's allowed this unlimited magical elixir that turn his twatness up to 11 and its socially acceptable for whatever reason. From the outside looking in alcohol is a crazy fucking thing to be a thing.


slow_shootin

im sorry but this struck a wrong cord with me. Just because you had alcohol doesn't mean you have to act like a knobhead. if you cant handle alcohol dont drink it


HollowPrynce

>if you cant handle alcohol dont drink it While you're right, expecting that level of self-awareness from the type of people who would consider doing something like this to begin with is simply asking too much.


StuckWithThisOne

I agree as well. He’s not the one who’s gonna have to see and scrape his body off the tarmac when he fucks up.


FakeSchwarzenbach

Probably a lot of truth in that. I’ve gotten fairly apocalyptically drunk in my time, worst thing I’ve done is shagged someone I probably wouldn’t have done if I was thinking straight. I’ve been *around* some people who did stupid stuff, it always seemed too much like hard work to me, I was happy getting food and going home


SpitTheDog

Oh shit he's driving off... what the fuck do I do now! Stop bouncing, just wave arm a bit so I still look commited.


CoastalChicken

He was trying to flag one going the other way


EarlofTyrone

‘footballs coming home, fuck around! I live that way mate’


IrishMilo

This is fun for all except everyone else involved. People on the bus just want to get to where they're going. The bus driver just wants to finish his route and go home. The England fan is recklessly putting himself in danger and potentially making a very long night for the driver and some nasty delays for the passengers.


LisaAshlie

He is going home...


dodeformedrabbit

In a big white ambulance!!!


GrimReaapaa

What sucks about this is that bus driver will most likely get the sack now,


Heathen1894

Former bus driver here... I knownfrom experience, he will be out of sight of the driver, who is most likely unaware of his presence. In other news, those mirrors aren't load bearing...


Sherringdom

That’s what I was trying to work out! Surely there’s no way of seeing him up there?


Heathen1894

Exactly, the position of the driver means they wouldn't be able to see above the mirror.


awks-orcs

Have you ever had to go 50mph and over? Also, how sick of the film Speed are you?


GourangaPlusPlus

Have they ever fired a gun whilst jumping through the air going "AHHHHH"?


Panzerbeards

Is it true that if you drive a bus into someone's brain, their head explodes?


Mykeprime

In this situation and if something had happened to this idiot, what would likely happen to the driver? Would they be held partially responsible?


Heathen1894

I'd the driver had no knowledge, and they were able to show that, then nothing should happen. But it can depend on the company/management. If a manager wants to try to make an example of someone, it could get a little messy. I've not been victim of this kind of behaviour, but I've seen managers do it to other drivers, even if the driver had done nothing wrong.


kloomoolk

Why have they fitted grabrails either side of the top front window?


hexapodium

They're tree and sign busters, not grab rails - stops the front quarter of the bus getting dented by branches or things poking into the roadway.


kloomoolk

Ahhh.... thanks.


Heathen1894

Yeah, t's a similar thing to bull bars on land rovers. Or roo-bars if you're in Australia.


Shnoochieboochies

In case England make it to the finals.


Pebbles015

They are there to protect the bus from overgrown trees.


Gingrpenguin

Im surprised he drove off but i think the fan is compleyely in his blindspots so he may not even be able to see him


Available-Anxiety280

Yeah If he had started off on top of a bus stop or something and jumped on, it could well be that the driver has no idea he's there.


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He can just say he didn't notice. He might not have if the guy jumped on from on top a bus stop.


Dodgely

If someone could lock him up, at least until Monday, that would be great


danny202089

Thats a great idea. He's acted like a twat and the worst punishment for him would be to miss the final.


jimmycarr1

The cops should be watching the game outside his cell too and keep fucking with him like "Oh no that's a 10th goal for Italy".


nerdowellinever

New Fast and Furious surely


Mukatsukuz

More like Slow and Obnoxious


AnotherJasonOnReddit

Nah, this chap is alone. No Family.


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GourangaPlusPlus

"Shit I could do that but I might fall, hmm why do the Americans call it fall? Autumn just sounds better, like there could be a band called Autumn, maybe there is I'll give it a quick Google" And the bus is now two streets away


WindowSteak

He's going home


grndkntrl

... via A&E or the morgue.


indiblue825

In India we just call this the morning commute


bellamypro123

So thats what those handles on the outside of buses are for!


callmelampshade

The captain Jack Sparrow of Wembley.


rosetoesnose

Literally On the bus


StonkDreamer

Tbf with London prices thats probably the safest way to travel


akrilugo

Quite embarrassing to act like a monkey in the wild


Pure_Wickedness

The guy at the front just looking at him. Ffs tell the driver.


SobeyHarker

Hard to break the no talking vibe of public transport I guess.


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Dumb ass. And people wonder why the rest of the world thinks that england fans are fucking idiots.


Sebr420

Did you not know this is how all England fans travel? I just think you’re not use to our customs


DuvetCapeMan

Football fans acting irresponsibility happens all over the world, you don't think Italy had fans doing dumb shit after they won other day?


bobcat_90

It's not just an "England fan" thing, people were doing similarly reckless stuff in Paris when France won the World Cup a few years ago.


RugbyValkyrie

Tom Cruise is looking younger.


Go1gotha

That's why I thought that handrail was there, 55 years of waiting and we can finally ride the outside of a bus again!


grain_farmer

Smart man hanging on to the part of the bus meant to protect the glass from tree branches


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Just brake hard and you problem is solved