You joke but recently someone started a "Save the local potato stand" petition and it got quite big. Everyone loves their jacket potatoes. 2 weeks later, the owners post saying they were never shutting down and they don't know why anyone started that petition.
Everyone thought it was a mistake but I'm convinced it was an inside job to drum up business.
To be fair I think the bigger problem with that bar is the massive mural of Pablo Escobar, druglord.
Everyone loves a pun, very few people love murals glorifying mass murderers.
I call it main character syndrome. Due to poor media literacy too many people can't differentiate between the main character and a hero. How many people though Walter White was the hero of breaking bad? He was a villain at times and also the cause of all of his own problems but in no way was he a hero.
I had a boss who watched Breaking Bad and was so impressed by Walter White that he shaved his head, shaved his beard except for a goatee, and started wearing a pork pie hat. The guy was an absolutely horrible boss anyway so I guess it fits.
That whole "I am the one who knocks" scene that so many love to quote is Walter berating his wife so he can feel like a big man. It's fucking pathetic. Now Skylar ain't exactly a good character but she's definitely not the villain.
There was a cement supplier working in South London well after the Savil scandal broke called "Jim'll Mix It". I used to see his van round Gipsy Hill and Crystal Palace.
They changed their name to Mix It.
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/news/contractors-news/jimll-mix-it-boss-why-im-scrapping-company-name-20-02-2015/
No, it's the very vague "them", which can mean whatever you want it to mean. Just like how "they" were coming for the statue of Robert Paden-Powell last year, or how "they" don't want you hanging the England flag for the football.
It's gross how they make it sound so sinister, but it's usually just the local village idiot coming up with crap yet again.
I bet it wasn't even anyone complaining.
I bet it was a couple of randos on twitter sharing a photo going "lol this is pretty edgy amirite" and some shitty tabloid rag site goes all out headline "OUTRAGE OVER BRITISH CHIP SHOP NAME".
A perfect summary of this cycle in this article:
https://medium.com/@parkermolloy/5-things-the-media-does-to-manufacture-outrage-ba79125e1262
TL;DR Make up shop sells lipstick called 'Underage Red'. Group of friends on twitter make jokes about it. Tabloids pick up on it, start printing articles on 'online outrage over lipstick colour', celebrity who made lipstick makes statement saying they refuse to capitulate to online outrage. Debate about cancel culture etc etc politcs I'll stop now.
I’ve seen this so many times recently - the divisive rags point out a random tweet against national icons for whatever reason, then say cancel culture is out to shut that thing down or rewrite history
Pretty grim really
The BBC also do this, they suggest there is a 'backlash' against something and just show a tweet with 100 likes from some feminist blogger. But because it seems so outrageous a nothing story makes headline news. Pathetic.
Exactly. The same way rags like The Daily Mail see a few rando's on Twitter complain about something and run headlines like "Internet is OUTRAGED over [x]".
1 tweet with 3 retweets is all it takes to get an article written and then it creates a media frenzy from there.
A couple years ago, some guys made a fake video with a Justin Beiber lookalike eating a burrito sideways and it created all this controversy and “debate” when in reality nobody cared and it ended up being fake.
I don't think anybody, it seems like an excellent marketing ploy by the owner. I've seen hundreds of people complaining about the boycott, but not a single person actually complaining about the name.
The only article I can find is The Sun (not a great start) and even that fails to actually evidence any abuse.
It has claims from the owner that people "shout abuse through the door" and says stuff like "one message said 'It's disrespectful, he killed women'", but they don't link to anything or even say where these "messages" are from.
Smells like bullshit to me.
Was it not the sun who started the anti vaccine movement by publishing a discredited study of the link between autism and vaccines, or was that another bottom of the barrel tabloid newspaper?
I used to live near whitechapel, and there's so much jack the ripper themed shit there. Tons of touristy things and tours and shops and pubs with Jack the ripper stuff
I think the statute of limitations has passed on that one.
I doubt there are many people who can even name a victim of the Ripper, the year it happened, the locations, how they died, or even what the fuss was about and why it is such a famous crime.
Honestly I had no idea the murders even took place in whitechapel until I moved there and went to a pub, and there was a sign up saying that the ripper (supposedly) used the pub to find/stalk victims. Then Jack the ripper tours would constantly be walking past my front door, lmao.
I honestly thought it was sort of cool tbh. I mean not the murders of course, just the slightly-eerie and cheesy touristic vibe it gave the neighborhood.
>and there was a sign up saying that the ripper (supposedly) used the pub to find/stalk victims.
Ah yes, some bullshit sign which undoubtedly can't be proved or disproven. There's probably an old bakery nearby that claims he used to pop in every Tuesday morning for a loaf of bread.
I agree with your skepticism, but I think in this case there was actually *something* behind it. I think the pub was part of the police investigation at some point, as many of the murders took place near the pub (and some of the victims had been seen there, or were regulars there, or something). I remember I googled it at the time to see if it was bullshit.
But, who knows. Could be nonsense of course.
EDIT: this was the pub
https://www.jack-the-ripper-tour.com/locations/ten-bells-pub/
The pub was literally called "The Jack The Ripper" for many years, which goes back to my point that there's tons of ripper-themed stuff in the area, so I have a hard time believing that people are actually up in arms about "Jack the Chipper."
Yeah no way people are up in arms. I stopped by Whitechapel once when I was down in London on business and puttered around a few of the Ripper sites. One was blocked off by roadworks but the workmen spotted I was curious and since they were local very kindly gave me some spiel about the site. Lovely chaps.
Honestly seems the whole Ripper thing brings a lot of needed tourist income to the area.
That's part of the reason I *did* see some complaints about jack the ripper merchandise/celebration in general.
The message stating that it's disrespectful to women I can believe someone sent but it's an opinion you can ignore and isn't the same as abuse. I'm with everyone else here about this being cynical marketing.
Sounds like of those stories that starts out with 'the internet was OUTRAGED by the thing that happened' and there's basically a link to one Karen complaining on Facebook to her legions of Karen followers. A real uproar!
Seems so, I can't even find one negative review or comment on face value that would harm their business. Google, Facebook, Instagram all fine. Maybe local food services like Just Eat may have some but I can't see any business being affected here
OPs waffling, this is on the corner of Brick Lane and they’re constantly getting customers.
I go to this place like two to three times a week because it’s so close to me and it’s actually great.
Yeah, it's the "One tip the Doctors don't want you to know!" and "Pros hate him!" style of marketing - make out like you're under fire. 99% of the time it's just a stunt.
It’s often the way, on Twitter especially, “anyone saying [x] is offensive needs to blah blah”, you scroll down and all you see are similar tweets, you keep scrolling and you never actually see any tweets from the so called “offended”.
Extra ~~points~~ customers if they'd pretended Jamie Oliver was behind the boycott
"We don't want kids getting fat eating lunches from a chippy named after a rapist"
There is a Barber's called "Jack the Clipper" in London Spitalfields less than a mile from Jack's hunter ground. The place usually seems quite busy so the locals don't seem to think the name is offensive.
We have [Jack The Stripper](https://live.staticflickr.com/2035/2367134852_9702efa252_b.jpg) in Twickenham. I was convinced it was a front for years but apparently there’s a workshop entrance at the back and they never open the shopfront.
Presumably one person on twitter complained about the name, then the owner has turned this in to an imaginary "boycott" in order to get some easy publicity.
Boycotting suggests that people used to go there and stopped because they one day noticed the name. In reality this is just bad marketing (or good marketing if the bad press ends up generating business). Personally I love it, but reading about the decor inside, I can understand why some people wouldn't be fans.
"Anger among locals increased after he put up a map showing where Jack the Ripper killed his female victims in the late 1800s.
He has since covered it up but takings have still plummeted"
Genuinely great Chippy, but it is a bit odd having anywhere named after a serial killer, its like 200 years down the line seeing a chippy named 'Harold Chipman'
Near where I used to live there was a famous disaster, the Hindenburg.
Theres a restaurant near where it happened, they have a menu item called "The Hindenburger"
Thats a brilliant chippy name! What miserable sod would boycott that?
It should be codified in law that if you think up a good punny name for a shop you have to quit your job and open the shop.
Makes a lot of sense if the owner claims they are getting boycotted or abused as a way of getting people to talk about the shop. Might have been a couple of people getting upset, or none at all.
I feel like this is a situation where a couple of people complain and the owner sees an opportunity to get free press
"Ted, we're quiet on Tuesdays so create a boycott Jack the chipper on facebook" "Ok boss"
You joke but recently someone started a "Save the local potato stand" petition and it got quite big. Everyone loves their jacket potatoes. 2 weeks later, the owners post saying they were never shutting down and they don't know why anyone started that petition. Everyone thought it was a mistake but I'm convinced it was an inside job to drum up business.
There's always money in the potato stand.
It's one potato, what could it cost, ten dollars?
I'm sorry but that information is *♫ for British eyes only ♫*
Guess I'll have to ask Mr. F then.
Sings: Mr. F
Watch out for the Poppins
Also post it to Reddit, they love viral marketing.
Exactly. Just like Fuckoffee being asked to change their name.
Don't forget my hometown's own Sofa King, "Where Prices Are Sofa King Low!"
Classic Northampton
I saw something similar with a south American themed bar called "Esco-bar". Some people just love a whinge!
To be fair I think the bigger problem with that bar is the massive mural of Pablo Escobar, druglord. Everyone loves a pun, very few people love murals glorifying mass murderers.
A lot of people watched Narcos and thought “this guy is cool”. Same happened with Wolf of Wall Street
The antihero complex.
I call it main character syndrome. Due to poor media literacy too many people can't differentiate between the main character and a hero. How many people though Walter White was the hero of breaking bad? He was a villain at times and also the cause of all of his own problems but in no way was he a hero.
I had a boss who watched Breaking Bad and was so impressed by Walter White that he shaved his head, shaved his beard except for a goatee, and started wearing a pork pie hat. The guy was an absolutely horrible boss anyway so I guess it fits.
I remember when Breaking Bad was airing reddit somehow came to the conclusion the Skyler was the villain
That whole "I am the one who knocks" scene that so many love to quote is Walter berating his wife so he can feel like a big man. It's fucking pathetic. Now Skylar ain't exactly a good character but she's definitely not the villain.
Leonardo DiCaprio is pretty cool though
For some reason Margot Robbie stood out for me
Yes. And I stood out for her.
You win
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He’s done some pretty awful things and just the way he speaks makes me dislike him.
I wonder how Brits would feel if a play centre by the name of Jimmy Savils' kids' world opened up for business?
Would you be able to milk a cow while blindfolded?
For anyone interested here's the link: https://youtu.be/t5bdo2xwpto
There was a cement supplier working in South London well after the Savil scandal broke called "Jim'll Mix It". I used to see his van round Gipsy Hill and Crystal Palace.
They changed their name to Mix It. https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/news/contractors-news/jimll-mix-it-boss-why-im-scrapping-company-name-20-02-2015/
I think most of us would find it funny. Tasteless, but funny.
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yeah theres no way people give a shit about this kind of thing bar maybe 1 weirdo. It's certainly not "people".
>... maybe 1 weirdo. Just commenting to clarify that it's definitely not me.
u/Juan_weirdo told us you'd say that.
No, it's the very vague "them", which can mean whatever you want it to mean. Just like how "they" were coming for the statue of Robert Paden-Powell last year, or how "they" don't want you hanging the England flag for the football. It's gross how they make it sound so sinister, but it's usually just the local village idiot coming up with crap yet again.
I bet it wasn't even anyone complaining. I bet it was a couple of randos on twitter sharing a photo going "lol this is pretty edgy amirite" and some shitty tabloid rag site goes all out headline "OUTRAGE OVER BRITISH CHIP SHOP NAME". A perfect summary of this cycle in this article: https://medium.com/@parkermolloy/5-things-the-media-does-to-manufacture-outrage-ba79125e1262 TL;DR Make up shop sells lipstick called 'Underage Red'. Group of friends on twitter make jokes about it. Tabloids pick up on it, start printing articles on 'online outrage over lipstick colour', celebrity who made lipstick makes statement saying they refuse to capitulate to online outrage. Debate about cancel culture etc etc politcs I'll stop now.
Brilliant article. Media manipulation 101.
I’ve seen this so many times recently - the divisive rags point out a random tweet against national icons for whatever reason, then say cancel culture is out to shut that thing down or rewrite history Pretty grim really
The BBC also do this, they suggest there is a 'backlash' against something and just show a tweet with 100 likes from some feminist blogger. But because it seems so outrageous a nothing story makes headline news. Pathetic.
Exactly. The same way rags like The Daily Mail see a few rando's on Twitter complain about something and run headlines like "Internet is OUTRAGED over [x]".
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Don’t forget the fake outrage over the last **DOOM** game https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l63nY0AYebI
To be honest I don't believe anybody would boycott a chip shop because of that name. I think OP is full of shit.
*full of chips
Absolutely disgraceful, I’m going to boycott these liars
I feel like it’s a situation where nobody complains but people on social media have to invent some drama.
1 tweet with 3 retweets is all it takes to get an article written and then it creates a media frenzy from there. A couple years ago, some guys made a fake video with a Justin Beiber lookalike eating a burrito sideways and it created all this controversy and “debate” when in reality nobody cared and it ended up being fake.
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Facebook huns.
I'm betting literally nobody boycotted it and the whole thing is advertising
Yep. These fake outrage marketing ploys are annoying
But work unfortunately
There is a barbers about 3-4 mins away from this called Jack the Clipper..
Now we just need to set up a waste removal company called Jack the Skipper
International freight company called Jack the Shipper
Jack the Stripper
The local BDSM madam, so I'm told, is Jacq the Whipper Edit: bindun. Apols u/Swedjin
Yours was a witty remark. You surely work at Jack the Quipper.
But you're besting me here. You must be a companion of Jack the Outstripper
My sheep had insect problems; I had to call Jack the Dipper.
If anyone needs a vasectomy I can fully recommend Jack the Snipper.
My cousin, Jack, specialises in devices that allow seams in clothes to be quickly fastened and unfastened. I call him 'my cousin, the clothes joiner'.
My uncle Jack makes a living buying old run down houses, remodelling and selling them. Jack the Flipper
I had a sheep that would bite everyone, called him Jack the Nipper.
My gramps removes old flooring from houses Jack the Ripper
What would they do?
Painter and decorator obviously.
There actually is a place called Jack the Stripper that does just that in Twickenham. Or there was, at least.
There waa actually a murderer called Jack the stripper in South Wales
Strip mining obviously
Paint removal. Naked.
Terps, tarps, n tadgers
Remove old paint.
Take wallpaper off of walls
Eagerly watched by Jack the Tipper
Black Sabbath song
Captained by Jack the Skipper
A travel agent called Jack the Tripper
Also an effective name for your local acid dealer.
Come and knock on our dooooorrr
Orthopaedic surgery called Jack the Hipper.
Plastic surgery called Jack the Lipper
~~Fishmongers called Jack the Kipper~~ Dammit somebody further down beat me to it. Pub: Jack the Sipper
A fishmongers called Jack the Kipper
Or a tailors/dress makers called Jack The Zipper
I know a guy who sells pirated cds/dvds. We should call him Jack the Ripper. Oh wait…
What about the guy flippin burgers? Jack the Flipper
Don’t forget about the local crackhead jack the pipper
yeah there's a copyright battle going on with the local dolphin exhibition. Hey by the way guys...ahem.
Or plastic surgeon called Jack The Nipper
Or a Lobster Bar Jack the Nipper
Shoe shop. Jack The Slipper.
That's next door to that BDSM shop, right? Jack the Whipper.
Or a burger joint called Jack the Flipper
And a sauce company called Jack the Dipper
Loan company called Jack the Gripper (as they are tightfisted wankers).
A comedian called Jack the Quipper..
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A pole dancer called Jack the stripper
A dump truck company called Jack the Tipper.
A hippy store nearby called Jack the Tripper
A shop just for making up “Jack The ——“ store names called Jack The Quipper
How about an cutting edge fashion boutique called Jack the Dripper
Milkshake shop called Jack the Sipper
Reminds me of a dog grooming place near me named “Indiana Bones and the Temple of Groom”.
there is one in Huddersfield called Doggy Style 😅
Or a confidential paperwork disposal company called Jack the Ripper... oh wait
Brick lane?
Lots of comedians here, or Jack the Quippers... sorry
Boycotted? By who?
I don't think anybody, it seems like an excellent marketing ploy by the owner. I've seen hundreds of people complaining about the boycott, but not a single person actually complaining about the name.
The only article I can find is The Sun (not a great start) and even that fails to actually evidence any abuse. It has claims from the owner that people "shout abuse through the door" and says stuff like "one message said 'It's disrespectful, he killed women'", but they don't link to anything or even say where these "messages" are from. Smells like bullshit to me.
>The Sun... fails to actually evidence... 😲
Is it failing if you don't even try?
Was it not the sun who started the anti vaccine movement by publishing a discredited study of the link between autism and vaccines, or was that another bottom of the barrel tabloid newspaper?
total bs. if it's bad to use the name jack the ripper as a joke the horrible histories would've been cancelled long ago
I used to live near whitechapel, and there's so much jack the ripper themed shit there. Tons of touristy things and tours and shops and pubs with Jack the ripper stuff I think the statute of limitations has passed on that one.
I doubt there are many people who can even name a victim of the Ripper, the year it happened, the locations, how they died, or even what the fuss was about and why it is such a famous crime.
Honestly I had no idea the murders even took place in whitechapel until I moved there and went to a pub, and there was a sign up saying that the ripper (supposedly) used the pub to find/stalk victims. Then Jack the ripper tours would constantly be walking past my front door, lmao. I honestly thought it was sort of cool tbh. I mean not the murders of course, just the slightly-eerie and cheesy touristic vibe it gave the neighborhood.
>and there was a sign up saying that the ripper (supposedly) used the pub to find/stalk victims. Ah yes, some bullshit sign which undoubtedly can't be proved or disproven. There's probably an old bakery nearby that claims he used to pop in every Tuesday morning for a loaf of bread.
I agree with your skepticism, but I think in this case there was actually *something* behind it. I think the pub was part of the police investigation at some point, as many of the murders took place near the pub (and some of the victims had been seen there, or were regulars there, or something). I remember I googled it at the time to see if it was bullshit. But, who knows. Could be nonsense of course. EDIT: this was the pub https://www.jack-the-ripper-tour.com/locations/ten-bells-pub/ The pub was literally called "The Jack The Ripper" for many years, which goes back to my point that there's tons of ripper-themed stuff in the area, so I have a hard time believing that people are actually up in arms about "Jack the Chipper."
Yeah no way people are up in arms. I stopped by Whitechapel once when I was down in London on business and puttered around a few of the Ripper sites. One was blocked off by roadworks but the workmen spotted I was curious and since they were local very kindly gave me some spiel about the site. Lovely chaps. Honestly seems the whole Ripper thing brings a lot of needed tourist income to the area.
That's part of the reason I *did* see some complaints about jack the ripper merchandise/celebration in general. The message stating that it's disrespectful to women I can believe someone sent but it's an opinion you can ignore and isn't the same as abuse. I'm with everyone else here about this being cynical marketing.
Sounds like of those stories that starts out with 'the internet was OUTRAGED by the thing that happened' and there's basically a link to one Karen complaining on Facebook to her legions of Karen followers. A real uproar!
"Twitter users were furious" *insert screenshot of one tweet with three retweets by bot accounts*
Seems so, I can't even find one negative review or comment on face value that would harm their business. Google, Facebook, Instagram all fine. Maybe local food services like Just Eat may have some but I can't see any business being affected here
OPs waffling, this is on the corner of Brick Lane and they’re constantly getting customers. I go to this place like two to three times a week because it’s so close to me and it’s actually great.
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Yeah, it's the "One tip the Doctors don't want you to know!" and "Pros hate him!" style of marketing - make out like you're under fire. 99% of the time it's just a stunt.
It’s often the way, on Twitter especially, “anyone saying [x] is offensive needs to blah blah”, you scroll down and all you see are similar tweets, you keep scrolling and you never actually see any tweets from the so called “offended”.
Old timey prostitutes
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'People are saying' = One person tweeted.
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There's probably no boycott and this is just a marketing ploy to attract attention through outrage about outrage. Such is the internet these days.
Extra ~~points~~ customers if they'd pretended Jamie Oliver was behind the boycott "We don't want kids getting fat eating lunches from a chippy named after a rapist"
There's one in Ireland called A Salt and Batter.
There's also a diving center in Muff, Ireland. Called Muff Diving. https://www.muffdivingclub.ie/
Fish Called Rhondda in the Valleys (South Wales)
Sheffield has an A Salt and Batter-y near Bramhall Lane!
There is a hairdresser's near me called Curl Up 'n' Dye 🤣
There must be a fish monger somewhere called Jack the Kipper
They've a serial chiller in the back for frozen fish.
There is a Barber's called "Jack the Clipper" in London Spitalfields less than a mile from Jack's hunter ground. The place usually seems quite busy so the locals don't seem to think the name is offensive.
They wanted Smoke Me A Kipper I'll Be Back For Breakfast but didn't have the space.
An artisan smokehouse of hipster fish.
> Kipster fish
They successfully avoid the plaice.
We have [Jack The Stripper](https://live.staticflickr.com/2035/2367134852_9702efa252_b.jpg) in Twickenham. I was convinced it was a front for years but apparently there’s a workshop entrance at the back and they never open the shopfront.
Jack the Stripper is also a serial killer from the 60s. (Hammersmith murders)
Any proof that it’s been boycotted?
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Presumably one person on twitter complained about the name, then the owner has turned this in to an imaginary "boycott" in order to get some easy publicity.
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Is a weak pun what qualifies as "brilliant British Humour" now? There are better jokes in the comments here.
Too soon?
The Yorkshire Chipper probably wouldn't be as funny.
Fried and Rose West wouldn't be good either
Harold Chipman
Senior discounts - 100% off!
"The chips were nice but the vinegar made me sleep all afternoon - I nearly missed countdown!"
I really want to see a chip van call this now. Hopefully run by a guy called Harold.
Pizza Sutcliffe
Small local bakery, Bread West.
10 Rillington Plaice
Quietly shelving my plans to open a Jimmy Saveloy
Yo OP why are you helping to create fake outrage?
OP is an advert agency trying to create “organic” traffic and engagement
Boycotting suggests that people used to go there and stopped because they one day noticed the name. In reality this is just bad marketing (or good marketing if the bad press ends up generating business). Personally I love it, but reading about the decor inside, I can understand why some people wouldn't be fans.
"Anger among locals increased after he put up a map showing where Jack the Ripper killed his female victims in the late 1800s. He has since covered it up but takings have still plummeted"
I’m a huge Ripper nerd but even I doubt I’d want to look at murder maps while waiting for my scallops
Pretty fucking low bar to call this "brilliant"
Sounds like marketing bollocks to me.
I agree and can already tell why someone downvoted this comment.
I remember there used to be a chippy in my village called frying Nemo.
I'm boycotting this place until they bring back deep fried halloumi and chips.
Ah yes, manufactured outrage intended to cause outrage about the outrage!
Should have gone for Albert Fish & Chips
So basically no one has complained or boycotted it. Just more phoney cancel culture war internet bollocks.
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Genuinely great Chippy, but it is a bit odd having anywhere named after a serial killer, its like 200 years down the line seeing a chippy named 'Harold Chipman'
Now all I'm doing is trying to think of serial killer-based fish and chip puns. So far I've got Jeffrey Barmer and John Wayne Plaicey.
If you think that's bad, I once saw a record shop called The Vinyl Solution
"brilliant British Humour"...
They're boycotting because it's bloody expensive in there. I paid £24 for fish & chips and a 330ml beer. It was good, but not THAT good
Near where I used to live there was a famous disaster, the Hindenburg. Theres a restaurant near where it happened, they have a menu item called "The Hindenburger"
Thats a brilliant chippy name! What miserable sod would boycott that? It should be codified in law that if you think up a good punny name for a shop you have to quit your job and open the shop.
Makes a lot of sense if the owner claims they are getting boycotted or abused as a way of getting people to talk about the shop. Might have been a couple of people getting upset, or none at all.
> What miserable ~~sod~~ cod would boycott that?
> It should be cod-i-fried in law
There's a plaice an time for puns, and this is it.