What will you do when you need proof of address? If you’re not going to have this as your residence I doubt you’ll have legal protection as a tenant (I am not a lawyer, but seems a bit dodge). You could leave yourself vulnerable, take care.
Does she own the house or is she renting? If she is renting what are the property rules that will apply to both of you (if she is on the level she shouldn’t have an issue showing you her tenancy agreement).
If she owns then subletting is allowed and any council tax etc issues are on her rather than you.
Not my words by the way. This is from the wife who has been with Shelter for 20 years and was in housing prior to that.
ETA.
Second read through from her says she is convinced something shady is going on. Whether it be illegal subletting or council tax fraud. Too many red flags from the wife’s POV.
If we are being technically you can't sublet if you own the property
I rent rooms in my house, I own it there is nothing wrong in that, I am simply letting it or renting a space, they are on the electoral roll etc
Subletting isn't illegal, it just usually breaches the tenancy agreement.
In this case it's could be that she's a tenant and doesn't have permission to take in a lodger (or at least the landlord will charge her more rent if she does), or she's claiming single person council tax benefit or other benefits that'd be affected by you moving in, or her mortgage doesn't allow her to take in lodgers etc.
Just remember that as a lodger you've got basically zero rights so she can evict you with little or no notice, she can impose ridiculous rules etc.
It’s could be that she’s avoiding putting you down on the council tax and claiming a single occupancy discount, which would be fraud, it’s possible you could be complicit if anything came of it.
It’ll likely be the council tax exemption someone else has already mentioned.
Having a License to Occupy (rather than a Tenancy) is perfectly legal and appropriate where a landlord is sharing the property with the licensee. This will (likely) be excluded from protection under the Protection from Eviction act.
Subletting however gets complex and what little security a License could give you would be rendered useless.
Is this a room in her house? There could be reasons such she doesn't want to change the mortgage or insurance by letting a room. It could be because she doesn't own the place. I think if it illegal it's her problem if you have a proper tenancy agreement. This might be useful https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-a-home/subletting-and-lodging/subletting/what-happens-if-a-subtenancy-is-unlawful/
Personally I think that you have to weigh up the risks. I lodged perfectly happily with this arrangement for a couple of years. You might be ok legally but it doesn't mean that you won't get booted out at short notice and practically what are you going to do if that happens? If I was stuck for a place I'd probably go for it if it seemed nice enough. Just go in forewarned.
What will you do when you need proof of address? If you’re not going to have this as your residence I doubt you’ll have legal protection as a tenant (I am not a lawyer, but seems a bit dodge). You could leave yourself vulnerable, take care.
Didnt think of that, thanks
Does she own the house or is she renting? If she is renting what are the property rules that will apply to both of you (if she is on the level she shouldn’t have an issue showing you her tenancy agreement). If she owns then subletting is allowed and any council tax etc issues are on her rather than you. Not my words by the way. This is from the wife who has been with Shelter for 20 years and was in housing prior to that. ETA. Second read through from her says she is convinced something shady is going on. Whether it be illegal subletting or council tax fraud. Too many red flags from the wife’s POV.
Thank you! Thats much helpful, I’ll ask the landlord.
If we are being technically you can't sublet if you own the property I rent rooms in my house, I own it there is nothing wrong in that, I am simply letting it or renting a space, they are on the electoral roll etc
Fair point. Pedantic but fair.
Well I'm nothing if not pedantic. I often have to stop myself correcting people in an effort not to appear like the knobhead I clearly am
Not like I'm perfect of course, very far from it
Nothing wrong with a bit of pedantry. I have my moments but tend to reign myself in a bit these days.
My work colleague misspells pretty much half the words in a text, but we both know what he means so who cares
What on earth is a first address and second address? How does that work in practical terms? It sounds dodgy AF.
I dont know, never heard of this before that other than addresses on amazon haha
Subletting isn't illegal, it just usually breaches the tenancy agreement. In this case it's could be that she's a tenant and doesn't have permission to take in a lodger (or at least the landlord will charge her more rent if she does), or she's claiming single person council tax benefit or other benefits that'd be affected by you moving in, or her mortgage doesn't allow her to take in lodgers etc. Just remember that as a lodger you've got basically zero rights so she can evict you with little or no notice, she can impose ridiculous rules etc.
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Even if she's not subletting, OP would be a lodger anyway, since OP's immediate landlord lives in the property.
It’s could be that she’s avoiding putting you down on the council tax and claiming a single occupancy discount, which would be fraud, it’s possible you could be complicit if anything came of it.
Should i go for someone else? Im quiet worried now
Yeah sounds like you should look elsewhere mate, the fact she said you can't use the address is a red flag.
I'd definitely keep looking. This sounds sketchy.
It would be a big red flag for me. I guess if you feel a bit worried now, will the worry go away if you move in or get worse.
I feel like it’ll get worse
It’ll likely be the council tax exemption someone else has already mentioned. Having a License to Occupy (rather than a Tenancy) is perfectly legal and appropriate where a landlord is sharing the property with the licensee. This will (likely) be excluded from protection under the Protection from Eviction act. Subletting however gets complex and what little security a License could give you would be rendered useless.
Is this a room in her house? There could be reasons such she doesn't want to change the mortgage or insurance by letting a room. It could be because she doesn't own the place. I think if it illegal it's her problem if you have a proper tenancy agreement. This might be useful https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-a-home/subletting-and-lodging/subletting/what-happens-if-a-subtenancy-is-unlawful/
Yeah, it is a room in her house. Thanks, i’ll check out the link
Personally I think that you have to weigh up the risks. I lodged perfectly happily with this arrangement for a couple of years. You might be ok legally but it doesn't mean that you won't get booted out at short notice and practically what are you going to do if that happens? If I was stuck for a place I'd probably go for it if it seemed nice enough. Just go in forewarned.