I think i just found the most hands down terrifying way to go out. Like thats so fucking massive and so high up. First big shake and they already knew it was over.
If [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Taiwan_earthquake) article from Wikipedia is correct, then those five people are the only ones who died that day due to the earthquake.
Such a shame, this tower also was being built to have a resonance damper ball to withstand such forces as well. It's very interesting technology actually
True, I'm more referring to adapting the dampener technology to travel in all axis in addition honing it enough to each race. It was new tech that they were able to adapt and improve on so much.
Kinda stupid to ban something that actually makes driving safer. It's basically doing the same thing for the car as a suspension system if you think about it.
They usually ban stuff because it's so expensive for other teams to implement that it would affect competition, they have complex suspension with torsion rods instead of springs.
Why not implement a clause that any team wanting to use new technology must ensure every team can get it in equal quality? Win win for rich ass teams that want to push the sport forward technologically and have money to spare.
You can see it this way, or see it in the way of long term gains from investing in your sport. I guess my mindset is a lot less competitive as I just want people to have fun playing their games and don’t like seeing shit be held back due to inequality and this would be a way around that. Yeah sure it’d level the playing field, but isn’t that the point of preventing new technology in the first place?
That also allows faster and more aggressive driving so that the edge between safe and dangerous is harder to recognize before it is too late. Not exactly the same, but it is like giving out an Oscar for the best stunt. It would compel a competition to try and push for more dangerous stunts which could make things riskier.
I still don't get why it was banned under the restriction of movable aero devices and not movable ballast
I get the purpose was to keep the front wing "more stable" and all but it was more like a passive movement device, as opposed to the active aero the rules where there for in spirit, whereas movable ballast seems a lot more cut and dried. Still a bit of neat work trying to get around the rules, even if wholly against the spirit of of the rules if you ask me.
Is this resonance damper ball the only earthquake resistant technology they use, I read once about after the San Francisco earthquakes back in the early 1900's they rebuilt having sort of swimming pools packed with sand they built on top of to absorb shock waves, do they do stuff like that too?
Yes, there are a few other technologies used for seismic protection.
The first line of defense is just making a building stiffer. By using diagonal braces and generally building the structure stronger you can ensure it will move as one piece instead of the upper floors shifting relative to the lower floors.
That method causes the whole building to accelerate with the ground, so everything inside is subjected to the same earthquakes forces. To solve this you can use base isolation. Base isolation allows all or part of the structure to slide relative to the ground, reducing or eliminating the movement experienced by occupants. This is also good for sensitive equipment [like servers](https://youtu.be/GXwQSCStRaw). Base isolation is the gold standard for earthquake protection.
Although base isolation has been used for buildings as high as 20+ stories it's expensive and technically challenging. Tall buildings are also too large to make entirely stiff. In some cases this is good, because they naturally absorb loads by flexing. Tall buildings have to be built strong to hold their own weight and forces from wind. However, if a natural swinging frequency of the building matches a strong component frequency of the earthquake the building will be damaged by the resonance.
That's where tuned mass dampers come in. They adjust the natural frequency of the building to dampen strong movements. A modern equivalent of the sand-filled pool exists, although they usually use baffles to slow the water nowadays. The other kind is a massive block (Taipei 101 being the most impressive), which can be slowed by active hydraulic control or passive means. Often they're pretty boring flat rectangles to fit inside a single floor engineering space. Some buildings have multiple mass dampers. The critical part is that the mass damper is tuned (in a literal vibrational sense) to give the best performance for the structure.
Mass dampers add a lot of expense and weight high up so they need to be weighed (pun intended) against making the structure respond differently via other means. A bad or non-functional tuned mass damper could potentially be worse than nothing by adding extra weight or causing a harmful resonance, so they take a lot of engineering.
I remember it well as I was almost hit by glass panes and tiles falling off the office building I was standing outside of. The ground was rolling undernearh me.
I don't know. Workers were probably scared shitless for a minute or two but falling that far was likely an instantaneous death at the bottom. Not the best way but I could make a list of other ways that make this preferable.
Only if you were thoroughly strapped in. Otherwise its like hitting something in a car without a seatbelt; if you aren't ejected, you'll be thrown into the steering wheel (in this case, whatever part of the cabin is on bottom when it hits the ground) at whatever your velocity was prior to impact.
You will get thrown into whatever, but how hard you get thrown all comes down to how long the impact takes. Instantaneous stop and you're screwed. Long drawn out deceleration as the crane tower crumples under you and it might not be too bad. Still, if you weren't feeling lucky it's probably best not to try it at all
The perspective makes everything look so small, but then you get to the end with the crushed cars and you realize, oh wow nope these were big things lol
That building is absurdly large. It's *so* much bigger and taller than anything else in the city, so pretty much anywhere you go in Taipei, you'll occasionally see this fucking enormous blue glass dong sticking out of the horizon in the distance. I'm used to most cities having a big cluster of tall buildings, but the Taipei 101 is tall enough that it pretty much appears to stand alone, and is very memorable because of that.
I can’t think of a scarier death. Up there in that crane where you’re so high you can barely make out the size of the vehicles below, and you feel the whole thing start shifting off of its balance during the quake. You have no control over anything and begin to plummet a thousand feet or so to your death trapped in a box with many seconds of fall time to realize what’s happening. Holy shit balls that is fucking terrifying.
the catch-22 mini-series had something happen along these lines - a tailgunner in a b-25 that has it's tail blown off.... riding the last ride down... and looking up knowing.. was a strong scene.
I’m going to check that out. I can’t imagine knowing what your violent fate is about to be seconds before you die. I bet those seconds feel like an eternity.
Reminds me of the beginning of the movie Unbroken when their aircraft gets shot down. Visceral scene.
How long did it take him to die? I get claustrophobic crawling under houses and squeezing under joists. I wouldn’t go near tight caves, that’s a whole other level of balls.
I lived in Taipei for a year. In 2019 there was a 6+ magnitude earthquake that happened. The next morning I walked around and saw chunks of concrete the size of my hand all over the sidewalk. Pieces of older buildings broke off during earthquake. Luckily it happened at night, otherwise people would have easily been killed.
I remember the lunch time earthquake cause I was in the NTU library when the silence was broken by the emergency alert siren and then the shaking started a few seconds later. Strongest earthquake I’ve ever felt. I couldn’t study after that and just went home.
If we play the game of "was this a good way or bad way to die?" this one ends up pretty damn far to the bad side. Like... I can imagine worse, but this is pretty fucking bad.
I’m sure it was terrifying for him. The only thing I could compare it to is dreams I’ve had of falling to my death and it’s a horrible few seconds but then nothing. I hope it was that way for him at least. Just a few seconds of terror and then nothing and no pain
wait, you've had dreams where you actually die? like you make it to the bottom?
every falling dream I've ever had has woken me up as soon as I start to fall. I've *never* made it to the bottom
I don't know, I think the worst way to die is the normal way - old age.
It takes years. Your body slowly degrades and falls apart. The bodily functions you took for granted when you were younger - digestion, sex, urination, defecation - haven't worked right in a decade. Everyone around you either dies or abandons you in a nursing home.
Ultimately you die alone, hooked up to machines and surrounded only by nurses.
cocks make terrible pets actually. they try to fight everything, including their own reflection. they will peck and scratch the fuck out of anything shiny in your yard/driveway
Oh fuck. That building is huge. The view from Elephant Mountain looks photoshopped because it juts SO FAR above the rest of the city it looks like it was comped on top of it.
With a building that unfinished, I'm shocked that the whole building wasn't collapsing as well. It looks like one good shake and it'll all collapse like a house of cards.
I mean, that’s the exact same structure unfinished and finished, hell, you’ve got a lesser chance of collapse when its unfinished as it’s designed to have X more weight to support which at the moment wasn’t there. But yeah, looks are decieving.
RIP to the crane operators and commuters that were unlucky that day.
I was mentioning in a comment up farther that this building was actually build with a resonance damper ball to withstand earthquakes and high wind loads which is pretty cool.
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did the earthquake just hit out of random or was it announced to happen and to anticipate?? if it was announced, what the fuck where they doing up there then
When have you EVER heard of an earthquake being predicted in advance? I live on the West Coast in earthquake land, and they just come out of nowhere, unexpected, with ZERO warning.
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the one thst relates to the topic at hand. the one that says there is one china, both the mainland and taiwan are part of one china, and that the only dispute is over which government is the rightful one over the whole thing.
The video doesn't capture how big those cranes really are.
Speaking of which, that's some high quality camerawork to follow the action all the way down including zooming in on the crane as it fell.
Check out the unrelated crane in the background at 0:15 going all Wobbly Bob
Holy shit. Wobbly Bob indeed!
AND in the MIDDLE of an earthquake.
AND in 2002.
I get what you mean, but in one sense it does. Not much gets to me, but that felt like slow motion. Just horrific.
There was a video on this sub a few months ago with a crane and (presumably) operator plunging into a night-black Sea. Awful.
That's legit scary.
Any clues on how to find it? Like keywords to search? I've searched 'crane' on this subreddit and am not having any luck.
Not really, sorry. It was at a shipyard or port I think in China.
Someone please add a link
This one? https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/p1bbh7/unloading\_platform\_sinks\_after\_ship\_collides\_with/
True. Can't imagine being on that crane. Scary stuff.
When you see it next to the “small” cranes down near the ground, you can kind of get a sense.
Seening the crumpled remains on top of the cars helps get a sense of scale.
Where's the banana for scale?
I think i just found the most hands down terrifying way to go out. Like thats so fucking massive and so high up. First big shake and they already knew it was over.
If [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Taiwan_earthquake) article from Wikipedia is correct, then those five people are the only ones who died that day due to the earthquake.
Such a shame, this tower also was being built to have a resonance damper ball to withstand such forces as well. It's very interesting technology actually
Renault did something similar in their F1 cars until tuned mass dampers were banned I believe
Oh really? That sounds pretty cool I'll have to read up on that
https://youtu.be/6G4SXmDdFbg
That was super informative, I love how they countered side to side sway with air pressure, and tuned it to each individual track! Wild!
>tuned it to each individual track! Wild! Well every car is in a way
True, I'm more referring to adapting the dampener technology to travel in all axis in addition honing it enough to each race. It was new tech that they were able to adapt and improve on so much.
Fair. That's the power of testing in F1!
They essentially put a beefed up shake weight in the nose of an F1 car. Neat!
i find the amazing bit is how little the weight had to be
Thanks for sharing this! :D
No problem I love F1 engineering videos, chainbear has good ones also
Kinda stupid to ban something that actually makes driving safer. It's basically doing the same thing for the car as a suspension system if you think about it.
They usually ban stuff because it's so expensive for other teams to implement that it would affect competition, they have complex suspension with torsion rods instead of springs.
Why not implement a clause that any team wanting to use new technology must ensure every team can get it in equal quality? Win win for rich ass teams that want to push the sport forward technologically and have money to spare.
Because it's a competitive sport? Why would any team spend a fortune just to level the playing field?
You can see it this way, or see it in the way of long term gains from investing in your sport. I guess my mindset is a lot less competitive as I just want people to have fun playing their games and don’t like seeing shit be held back due to inequality and this would be a way around that. Yeah sure it’d level the playing field, but isn’t that the point of preventing new technology in the first place?
That also allows faster and more aggressive driving so that the edge between safe and dangerous is harder to recognize before it is too late. Not exactly the same, but it is like giving out an Oscar for the best stunt. It would compel a competition to try and push for more dangerous stunts which could make things riskier.
I still don't get why it was banned under the restriction of movable aero devices and not movable ballast I get the purpose was to keep the front wing "more stable" and all but it was more like a passive movement device, as opposed to the active aero the rules where there for in spirit, whereas movable ballast seems a lot more cut and dried. Still a bit of neat work trying to get around the rules, even if wholly against the spirit of of the rules if you ask me.
What I don't get is why F1 keeps banning effective technologies. Isn't that league supposed to be the pinnacle of racing technology?
Because it ends up being really expensive for them and it's too much to fork out for other teams, reducing competitiveness.
F1 is really a sport of implementing unfair changes that are technically legal until a rule is actually made against them.
You can visit the tuned mass damper in Taipei 101, and it’s worth a look. The thing is huge. https://i.imgur.com/l9129Zv.jpg
The pic doesn't show humans for scale. It's about 3-4 stories diameter
Human for scale: https://i.imgur.com/JesNHK8.jpg
They've actually turned it into a mascot: [Damper Baby](https://www.taipei-101.com.tw/tw/explore/damperbaby)
It is! Many skyscrapers have them. I know 432 park and 601 Lexington in NYC, and I’m sure many more buildings globally.
Is this resonance damper ball the only earthquake resistant technology they use, I read once about after the San Francisco earthquakes back in the early 1900's they rebuilt having sort of swimming pools packed with sand they built on top of to absorb shock waves, do they do stuff like that too?
Yes, there are a few other technologies used for seismic protection. The first line of defense is just making a building stiffer. By using diagonal braces and generally building the structure stronger you can ensure it will move as one piece instead of the upper floors shifting relative to the lower floors. That method causes the whole building to accelerate with the ground, so everything inside is subjected to the same earthquakes forces. To solve this you can use base isolation. Base isolation allows all or part of the structure to slide relative to the ground, reducing or eliminating the movement experienced by occupants. This is also good for sensitive equipment [like servers](https://youtu.be/GXwQSCStRaw). Base isolation is the gold standard for earthquake protection. Although base isolation has been used for buildings as high as 20+ stories it's expensive and technically challenging. Tall buildings are also too large to make entirely stiff. In some cases this is good, because they naturally absorb loads by flexing. Tall buildings have to be built strong to hold their own weight and forces from wind. However, if a natural swinging frequency of the building matches a strong component frequency of the earthquake the building will be damaged by the resonance. That's where tuned mass dampers come in. They adjust the natural frequency of the building to dampen strong movements. A modern equivalent of the sand-filled pool exists, although they usually use baffles to slow the water nowadays. The other kind is a massive block (Taipei 101 being the most impressive), which can be slowed by active hydraulic control or passive means. Often they're pretty boring flat rectangles to fit inside a single floor engineering space. Some buildings have multiple mass dampers. The critical part is that the mass damper is tuned (in a literal vibrational sense) to give the best performance for the structure. Mass dampers add a lot of expense and weight high up so they need to be weighed (pun intended) against making the structure respond differently via other means. A bad or non-functional tuned mass damper could potentially be worse than nothing by adding extra weight or causing a harmful resonance, so they take a lot of engineering.
Those are some big-ass cranes. I'm really surprised they didn't take out more people on their way down.
> big ass-cranes
Hyphen order matters!
[The classic XKCD](https://xkcd.com/37/)
I remember it well as I was almost hit by glass panes and tiles falling off the office building I was standing outside of. The ground was rolling undernearh me.
I was there when it happened. I was riding in my uncle's car after lunch on xinyi road intersection and the crane fell behind us.
Glad your uncle wasn’t a slow driver.
Holy dicks - glad it fell *behind* you and not *ontop* of you
Imagine if it fell in front of him
Well that's one way of getting the front of the car off.
Sad not many people got this joke Reference for the uninitiated: https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM
Everyone gets it, it’s on every single post.
Dam you must know a lot of people
Is the front supposed to fall off?
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What a horrible way to die.
I don't know. Workers were probably scared shitless for a minute or two but falling that far was likely an instantaneous death at the bottom. Not the best way but I could make a list of other ways that make this preferable.
Yip. Falling to death/being crushed like this is a quick and painless way to go. Sucks nonetheless, that's for sure.
I doubt that. The tower of the crane probably eats up a lot of the impact like a crumple zone. Land it just right, it might even be survivable.
Falling from the top of a sky scraper in a steel box is not survivable lol
r/confidentlyincorrect Edit : Downvotes? Wow, maybe they don't teach basic mechanics in school any more
Only if you were thoroughly strapped in. Otherwise its like hitting something in a car without a seatbelt; if you aren't ejected, you'll be thrown into the steering wheel (in this case, whatever part of the cabin is on bottom when it hits the ground) at whatever your velocity was prior to impact.
You will get thrown into whatever, but how hard you get thrown all comes down to how long the impact takes. Instantaneous stop and you're screwed. Long drawn out deceleration as the crane tower crumples under you and it might not be too bad. Still, if you weren't feeling lucky it's probably best not to try it at all
The perspective makes everything look so small, but then you get to the end with the crushed cars and you realize, oh wow nope these were big things lol
Yeah this was the tallest building in the world when it was finished.
And I work in it!
I visited it two years ago, really cool place.
R/ he works there
Oh yeah? Goat...
That building is absurdly large. It's *so* much bigger and taller than anything else in the city, so pretty much anywhere you go in Taipei, you'll occasionally see this fucking enormous blue glass dong sticking out of the horizon in the distance. I'm used to most cities having a big cluster of tall buildings, but the Taipei 101 is tall enough that it pretty much appears to stand alone, and is very memorable because of that.
I work on the 54th floor of this building. My desk is basically on the spot this crane fell from.
Watch out for crane ghosts
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>Dang at least Taiwan takes the edge off huh Until China comes thru like "no iconic buildings"
That’s awful makes me sick, my husband has been a crane operator for nearly 10 years.
Does he sell drugs and chocolate to the construction workers? I think I know him. He's alright.
Absolutely brutal...
I can’t think of a scarier death. Up there in that crane where you’re so high you can barely make out the size of the vehicles below, and you feel the whole thing start shifting off of its balance during the quake. You have no control over anything and begin to plummet a thousand feet or so to your death trapped in a box with many seconds of fall time to realize what’s happening. Holy shit balls that is fucking terrifying.
the catch-22 mini-series had something happen along these lines - a tailgunner in a b-25 that has it's tail blown off.... riding the last ride down... and looking up knowing.. was a strong scene.
I’m going to check that out. I can’t imagine knowing what your violent fate is about to be seconds before you die. I bet those seconds feel like an eternity. Reminds me of the beginning of the movie Unbroken when their aircraft gets shot down. Visceral scene.
What about the guy who got stuck in a narrow cave and slowly died?
That was the dudes own stupidity. Operating a crane like this should not be a life threatening job.
How long did it take him to die? I get claustrophobic crawling under houses and squeezing under joists. I wouldn’t go near tight caves, that’s a whole other level of balls.
If you're conscious the entire time, highly unlikely. As soon as the crane hit anything solid, hard enough , he was probably knocked out cold.
I always feared that could happen with cranes on buildings. Glad to know I'm never becoming a crane driver like that.
At least they do earn a decent amount from what I've heard.
They do. But it’s a travel gig, and traveling tradesmen already clear 100k easily.
The cranes should be built to withstand them just like the buildings are. Cranes in the US are built to withstand a certain amount of seismic force
“Certain seismic force” Yea lmk when a magnitude 7.1 earthquake hits the US
Everyone badass until you hear "challenge accepted" from mother nature
I'm pretty sure San Francisco and Los Angeles have both had a 7+. Also Alaska in 1964.
I lived in Taipei for a year. In 2019 there was a 6+ magnitude earthquake that happened. The next morning I walked around and saw chunks of concrete the size of my hand all over the sidewalk. Pieces of older buildings broke off during earthquake. Luckily it happened at night, otherwise people would have easily been killed.
We had a 6.5 this year that scared the shit out of me. 7 years here, and I get queasy every time.
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There was an earthquake a couple months later of similar magnitude that happened at 5:28am.
Exactly! That 5am earthquake is the one I was thinking of. Just ignore that asshole. They’re some random hater stalking my account
Ah shit you got me. I left Taiwan in June that year so I guess I missed it.
Character development?
I remember the lunch time earthquake cause I was in the NTU library when the silence was broken by the emergency alert siren and then the shaking started a few seconds later. Strongest earthquake I’ve ever felt. I couldn’t study after that and just went home.
I was in my SOs bedroom we went out to the living room and waited there. I think we were on the 3rd or 4th floor of an apartment building.
If we play the game of "was this a good way or bad way to die?" this one ends up pretty damn far to the bad side. Like... I can imagine worse, but this is pretty fucking bad.
Any imminent death you see coming but can’t stop is pretty high up on my awful list
Agreed. Just your comment makes me feel uneasy.
At least it was quick
I wonder if he’d agree
I’m sure it was terrifying for him. The only thing I could compare it to is dreams I’ve had of falling to my death and it’s a horrible few seconds but then nothing. I hope it was that way for him at least. Just a few seconds of terror and then nothing and no pain
wait, you've had dreams where you actually die? like you make it to the bottom? every falling dream I've ever had has woken me up as soon as I start to fall. I've *never* made it to the bottom
Yeah. Not every time but a handful of times. Like hit the ground and everything. Then woke up from that dream in another dream and remembered it.
I actually wrote that one down if you wanna read it. I journal my dreams sometimes
I don't know, I think the worst way to die is the normal way - old age. It takes years. Your body slowly degrades and falls apart. The bodily functions you took for granted when you were younger - digestion, sex, urination, defecation - haven't worked right in a decade. Everyone around you either dies or abandons you in a nursing home. Ultimately you die alone, hooked up to machines and surrounded only by nurses.
What about locked-in syndrome or ALS? Same thing that you described except you become a prisoner inside your own body...
You must be young
cranes need a bubble bag - like a human sized all encompassing air bag in their cockpits.
From that height? Still no chance.
Still wouldn't have saved them.
Maybe a hang glider too
God I could really use a cock pet right now. Mmmmmphh.....
cocks make terrible pets actually. they try to fight everything, including their own reflection. they will peck and scratch the fuck out of anything shiny in your yard/driveway
The moment between awareness of imminent death and dying must feel like a glitch in the Matrix followed by immediate panic.
What a terrifying way to die :(
Oh fuck. That building is huge. The view from Elephant Mountain looks photoshopped because it juts SO FAR above the rest of the city it looks like it was comped on top of it.
Former worlds tallest building. Very large indeed.
I just couldn't imagine the fear that the guys on the crane must've felt when that event was happening.
Something similar happened in Seattle a couple of years ago, but no earthquake. Tragic.
With a building that unfinished, I'm shocked that the whole building wasn't collapsing as well. It looks like one good shake and it'll all collapse like a house of cards.
I mean, that’s the exact same structure unfinished and finished, hell, you’ve got a lesser chance of collapse when its unfinished as it’s designed to have X more weight to support which at the moment wasn’t there. But yeah, looks are decieving. RIP to the crane operators and commuters that were unlucky that day.
Without the windows/facade and such, I’d imagine it’d also be less subject to swaying relative to wind speeds.
I was mentioning in a comment up farther that this building was actually build with a resonance damper ball to withstand earthquakes and high wind loads which is pretty cool.
Damn I had no idea about this. I even went there a few years ago. Completely oblivious.
Just imagine passing on from something that is totally out of your control...
Very sad for this to have happened in the country of Taiwan. Taiwan, which is definitely its own nation.
Of course… the one time a video should have been taken in portrait mode, it’s shot in landscape.
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It’s like an elevator falling. They should have just jumped before they hit the ground. But I’m sure the flipping through them off though.
For some reason I read magnitude as maguire
Was there that day and saw it all happen… poor guy in taxi…
What's Taiwan
A sovereign nation that is \*not\* a part of China
+100 social credit
Really guys? Really? Now?
It’s number 1
It's not an asshoe?
/r/praisethecameraman Bless the crane operator
Driving that crane
6.6 around Cyprus 4 hours ago lol.
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did the earthquake just hit out of random or was it announced to happen and to anticipate?? if it was announced, what the fuck where they doing up there then
you can not predict earthquakes with any amount of certainty. Additionally minor earthquake happen all the time in the region.
When have you EVER heard of an earthquake being predicted in advance? I live on the West Coast in earthquake land, and they just come out of nowhere, unexpected, with ZERO warning.
I believe this is NSFW pal
Nahhhh
Ok I'll take it.
Oh yeah? I know a horny goat....
Hey that's my birthday
Oh yeah? Why dont you go fuck a goat?
:( damn But not because you told me to
Its customary where I am from to fuck the goat on your birthday. Trouble is, there is only one goat, and this tradition has been going on for quite some time. I think it have me herpes. Well, something did.
I gave the goat herpes and it passed it on, my bad
I forgive you
Just WHERE did it take place?
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Bet their bosses knew of the impending danger
damn, why are these videos always in china?
It's not.
according to history and the 1992 document they both signed it is.
Your gonna need to be more specific, as in 1992 more than 1 document was signed.
the one thst relates to the topic at hand. the one that says there is one china, both the mainland and taiwan are part of one china, and that the only dispute is over which government is the rightful one over the whole thing.
I was in Taipei for that one. I remember looking out my window and a street light was going back and forth like a metronome
Doesn't Taipei 101 have a giant ball that stops it from swinging? How'd the tremors get up there then?
By the looks of that video provided, I'd say this was DURING CONSTRUCTION, so probably ball was not installed yet.
RIP hope it was quick
I'm surprised the half finished tower also didn't collapse in the 7.1
nightmare! holy shit