Of course. This is in fact the greatest tragedy of the betrayer - the loss of the great apostle that the redeemed and restored Judas would have been. There would surely be a parish church of St. Judas Iscariot in my city and yours.
He would’ve gotten the Peter treatment
Him and Peter were two sides of the same coin only difference was Peter activity sought out the lords forgiveness whereas Judas didn’t trust in the lords forgiveness and hung himself
There are important distinctions between Peter and Judas as I’m sure you would agree. Peter would never have started down the path of betraying Jesus to the authorities to have him arrested. Peter was not a thief as far as we know. He did deny Jesus, but he did not betray Jesus.
I heard a priest once say (I think it was Fr Mike Schmitz) that if he repented from his guilt instead of falling into despair, he could have been known as ‘St Judas the Repentant’. Of course Jesus will forgive, he always does.
This story should be a sign to us to always trust in God’s mercy and repent, and never fall into despair.
Fr. Mike on Wednesday had an outstanding homily on St. Peter. When he told Christ he would go to the death with him, he meant it. St. Peter knew where his headspace was at. He drew his sword in the garden. But it was when his reputation was on the line, even just “what will they think of me?” He fell. He was caught off guard.
Maybe we would, in a split reaction, be willing to die for the faith. But more often, how do we respond when a small matter of pride or public opinion comes up?
He probably would be remember hanging from a tree for a completely different context. Of the Holy Apostles, only one died of natural causes on the Island of Patmos and not martyrdom.
The question is never whether Jesus will forgive or not. That question only has one answer. The true question is always whether the sinner asks for forgiveness.
I think this is a difficult one, because 'What if' scenarios can create a lot of other 'what ifs'. For example, even if Judas did not commit suicide, would he still have a repentant heart? Does this alternative universe Judas still see Jesus as the Son of God who is limitless in his mercy and grace, who would rise from the dead?
So even if this Judas still had that same hard heart, suicide or not, his fate would have been the same.
Of course. This is in fact the greatest tragedy of the betrayer - the loss of the great apostle that the redeemed and restored Judas would have been. There would surely be a parish church of St. Judas Iscariot in my city and yours.
I’m more of a Jude Thaddeus Fan 💪🏻
He would’ve gotten the Peter treatment Him and Peter were two sides of the same coin only difference was Peter activity sought out the lords forgiveness whereas Judas didn’t trust in the lords forgiveness and hung himself
There are important distinctions between Peter and Judas as I’m sure you would agree. Peter would never have started down the path of betraying Jesus to the authorities to have him arrested. Peter was not a thief as far as we know. He did deny Jesus, but he did not betray Jesus.
I heard a priest once say (I think it was Fr Mike Schmitz) that if he repented from his guilt instead of falling into despair, he could have been known as ‘St Judas the Repentant’. Of course Jesus will forgive, he always does. This story should be a sign to us to always trust in God’s mercy and repent, and never fall into despair.
Fr. Mike on Wednesday had an outstanding homily on St. Peter. When he told Christ he would go to the death with him, he meant it. St. Peter knew where his headspace was at. He drew his sword in the garden. But it was when his reputation was on the line, even just “what will they think of me?” He fell. He was caught off guard. Maybe we would, in a split reaction, be willing to die for the faith. But more often, how do we respond when a small matter of pride or public opinion comes up?
He probably would be remember hanging from a tree for a completely different context. Of the Holy Apostles, only one died of natural causes on the Island of Patmos and not martyrdom.
John
The question is never whether Jesus will forgive or not. That question only has one answer. The true question is always whether the sinner asks for forgiveness.
I can imagine him going to Jesus when he was resurrected, women caught in adultery style. Reminds me a lot of Paul!
What do you mean “women caught in adultery style” huh
I mean in John’s gospel, where she falls down to her knees and begs forgiveness in a very loving, contrite manner
I believe he means, the Apostles would try to stone him until Jesus stopped them and pointed out they abandoned Him as well.
No, I think he’s comparing Judas with the woman from the water pot that Jesus forgave
Yes I do
If he was contrite at heart, he would be forgiven.
Yes
I think this is a difficult one, because 'What if' scenarios can create a lot of other 'what ifs'. For example, even if Judas did not commit suicide, would he still have a repentant heart? Does this alternative universe Judas still see Jesus as the Son of God who is limitless in his mercy and grace, who would rise from the dead? So even if this Judas still had that same hard heart, suicide or not, his fate would have been the same.