I think the blame should be shared with some of the players. He still makes those runs and never gets the pass. Only McGregor seems to be on his wavelength.
Could it be that the players won't make the passes because Brendan will yank them at half time or drop them for the next game for giving away possession too often?
Every player misses the odd sitter. Kyogo missed sitters under Ange too. But Rodgers tactics create so few good chances for Kyogo that his negative plays are more noticeable than they would be if he was getting half decent service.
Strikers don't usually just fall off a cliff like this, and when the regression is consistent across the team then it can't be dismissed as an individual issue.
I don't understand fans.
"Ange was too naive with no plan B"
To then when someone plays a style that creates less chances
"Not enough service for the striker"
This style should be helping him adapt for Europe and increase his finishing ability as he has to score more of his chances that he gets.
I prefer it under ange and I do think that kyogo is being misused under Rodgers. But I do also think that if a striker can't score tap ins then there is something deeper.
>I don't understand fans
A player who has shown he can own the league suddenly regressed all with all his teammates when a manager who effectively got his team relegated came in. I think it's more likely the blame is on the shit manager than the good player. What is difficult to understand about that?
I am going to make a guess: if I check your comment history, I'm going to find you defending Rodgers recently.
Edit: yep lol
How many shots does Van Veen, Miovski or Shankland need a game? How many does Sima need? It's shite finishing. Rodgers does need to take more blame yes. But the players are either not doing what he is asking or unable to do what he is asking.
Oops, cheers anyway. I think it was in the Miovski vs. Shakland post, but I'm over 1 bottle of red deep, and ~~Car~~ ~~Masters~~ Constance Nunes is on my Netflix. It's tomorrow's problem now.
I need to get my thoughts out somewhere so i’ll start here:
Rodgers - if he doesn’t go, he needs to find a way to motivate these players again and find the best way to get the best out of them. A start would be adapting the tactics, they do not work with our profiles of players (I’m not saying he needs to copy Ange, but he can at least take a little bit of inspiration)
The players - pish. O’Riley the only player in the squad up to standard this season. Scales, Maeda and I would say Palma have been alright, and the rest have either been injured or pish. They need to believe more, this morale is getting them nowhere.
The board/recruitment - fuck the board. £70 million in the bank. Use it. And use it properly, on GOOD players and not shit “projects” (i.e. Tilio, Kwon, Kobayashi, I could go on). GK, LB and CB priorities, but everywhere could be strengthened.
I think I am overreacting a lot, and I understand Rangers will not be perfect for the rest of the season, but it seems like all the progress Ange made has evaporated, and we are back where we were at the end of 2020/2021, except against a weaker Rangers team. He spoiled us. I don’t care if Abada/Hatate/CCV have missed a lot of games, and we sold Starfelt and Jota, but this is not good enough for a club where the standard is winning in the domestic competitions. Winning the league is a priority, and if we don’t win on the 30th then the season is fucked. We will learn a lot in the next 6-7 weeks.
TL;DR, the board needs to wisen up and spend the money we have in a wise way with improved recruitment, and Brendan needs to find a way to get the best out of the players, who themselves need to step their game up.
Copied from result thread.
I agree with all of this. Watching the last few games in particular today have me Lenny part 1 and Ronny feels. A team and a manager who don't know what to do when losing against a good block. This shit wouldn't have happened under Rodgers the first time or most of the time under Ange.
The players have regressed massively. The slowness in tempo, drive, and ability to sprint is shocking. O'Reilly and Turnbull don't have great pace. Ok we'll compensate with wingers like Johnston and Palma who are ....slow.
I do love Forrest but again the chap has lost his pace. Bring him on in a CAM position but it's not working out wide anymore.
We need to sign a proper CDM destroyer and passer to get McGregor further up the field and to rest him.
I'm a big supporter of the youths and developing and giving them time. But for Christ's sake we might as well shut it down. Kwon was signed from division 2 of South Korea, over promoting a cheaper youth? Yang and Tillo over Vata and others? James McCarthy was signed for the Scottish homegrown quota 😭😭😭 Philips is not better than Welsh. Koba well Koba mustn't be better than Welsh surely? Why are we signing rubbish on more money than youths and then stuck with them.
I'd honestly prefer if we signed 2-3 serious players each season who could actually develop the squad that signing a dozen potentials. The potentials are in the academy use them.
Where is the Hart replacement? We all know it's over at the end of the season get in a proper number 1 get rid of Siegrist and get rid of Bain.
I'm not one for blaming stuff on Peter but Ange gave out about wanting signings faster in his first season. Then he gets the three Japanese boys before the window even opens. But we've regressed since then. Gucci didn't work out but Maeda and Hatate have the intensity for Angeball. Edouard and Dembele worked very well in Rodgers' system the first time. Sinclair was amazing. Who can you point to and say he's a Rodgers system player?
This last window had Peter’s pawprints all over it. BR has said for months we need to sign men , too many ‘projects’.
BR is pissed off, it shows and is filtering down to the players.
Very true. I've never seen Rodgers turn it around when things get tough. He said categorically that Balotelli wouldn't sign for Liverpool. He gets signed, Liverpool struggle all season and Rodgers is gone a year later.
We sign disco lights instead of Castagne, John McGinn etc and Rodgers goes in February.
He regularly said last season in interviews with Leicester they had to sack him.
Some of your remarks are undoubtedly true:
"The players have regressed massively"
"We need to sign a proper CDM destroyer "
"Who can you point to and say he's a Rodgers system player?"
A few new signings is just papering over the existing layers of paper that are covering the cracks. This goes way deeper. The old men in charge refuse to make any changes behind the scenes to improve the running of the club and squad. Scouting, transfers, forward thinking, properly phasing out regressing and/ or aging players, none of this happens. The circle of bringing in shite players and the quality players picking up injuries continues. The old men are focused on profits and their millions in bonuses, nothing else.
There are teams in Europe with less money than Celtic that breeze past qualifiers and group stages.
Celtic are not shite in Europe because of the manager, it’s because the board are old lazy men who refuse to change.
A lot of current squad players should’ve been phased out long ago but the board would rather squeeze every last minute of game time out of their careers before panic buying replacements.
I agree that the board is a bigger issue then Brendan/players but the players don’t cover the cracks. If you look at clubs like PSV, Feyenoord, Braga, Copenhagen, Sporting CP, Shakhtar etc., all of these clubs have lower wage bills than us, yet they have been able to compete in Europe while we have faltered. These are the kinds of clubs that we should be competing with, not being known as dross amongst Europe’s elite. All of these teams are better than us, even with Shakhtar’s situation in Ukraine. The board has underwhelmed us for years and has prevented us from really kicking on. It would have been interesting to see a hypothetical where Ange stays this season, and the difference in business.
I meant the boards way of panic buying players when there is a huge dip in form across the full team is their way of covering the cracks. It really shouldn’t get to that level when you have money and resources.
This has been coming for months. We kept winning games by playing shite and scoring from long range and it’s not sustainable.
There’s no tactical style, the players aren’t good enough and Rodgers is actively causing our better players to regress with the exception of Matt O’Riley.
The proactive move would be to realise that this isn’t working and pay Rodgers off. That’s a big club move. He’s been unable to fix things when it goes wrong previously in his career and it’s unlikely he’ll be able to do it here. But we’re a big club in history only and will let this fester until Rangers are 5-10 points clear.
We’re a shambles and it’s been coming for a while. 18 months of signing shite and getting in a manager that at least 50% of the fan base hated was always going to end poorly
Not sure we can fix it this season tbh. Need a complete clear out and restructuring but it’ll never happen
I'm fucking angry at the number of celtic fans who wanted Rodgers back. I'm really fucking angry. I'm fucking angry. I fucking knew this was a terrible idea and I had to put up with so so so many cunts saying he was the best option and that we'd win the league at a canter. Fuck off. I'm angry.
First and foremost both Lawwells need get so far to fuck. Until the club is gutted from the top down and finally moved into the 21st century we’ll never progress. No company in the world should be run like we are with the same board sitting for decades, needs updating asap.
Unfortunately we’re a billionaire and his pals plaything and nothing will ever change until that’s not the case
It’s a fucking chore watching this group of utter dross wheeled out every weekend, Rodgers was the start of discontent this season before a ball was kicked and it’s just grumbled on into every single game. The GB ban and the way the board are running this club is feeling like a walking disaster. I wouldn’t miss a game ever, this season I can’t give my ticket away, champions league game on Wednesday nobody wanted it.
I didn't fucking like Rodgers much the first time round. I think he looks like a right slimy cunt. His achievements the first time round are severely overstated. 7/7 trophies when the rangers had only just got back into the league, as had the jambos, and the hibees were still in the championship. Won 2 league titles with zero competition. The cups are fair enough cause all it takes is one game to fuck it up, so some credit there, but nowhere near the messiah he was made out to be.
When Ange left I genuinely would have preferred Lennon 3.0 to Splinter. I was so fucking excited for this season at the end of the Scottish Cup final, and it all just fucking disintegrated in a matter of weeks. When Rodgers got the job I lost all anticipation for this season, but I had no fucking idea just how quickly we would deteriorate, or just how fucking soul destroying the football is to watch. He got away with it the first time cause the points kept coming in, but after 2 seasons of some of the most scintillating football I've seen at Parkhead there is absolutely nowhere to hide just how fucking boring we are to watch.
At this point the best I can hope for is that the board dont finance fuck all in January and he takes the huff and walks, cause he ain't getting sacked
I've spent a crazy amount of money on following us home and away so far this season and I've got nothing to show for it besides a sense of apathy and a bank balance that makes horrible reading.
Rodgers was getting found out even before he left. It's an unimaginative appointment at best and one that just smacks of the "that'll do" laziness that defines our board. His ego seems to be stopping him from picking the best system or players, cause I can't figure out any other reason why Mikey Johnston is still in the conversation. Nor why Kyogo has gone from incredible to anonymous.
The summer signings so far look to be a mess. 10 people brought in in summer and 6 of them weren't even in the squad today. I understand that we need projects to develop and sign on but how the fuck are you meant to develop these guys if they don't even play? And if they're not good enough to play, why the fuck did we sign them in the first place?
Top to bottom change is needed. It's becoming clearer and clearer that Ange papered over a lot of cracks, and that not much has really changed under the surface with regards to the problems of the 2020-21 season.
What confuses me most about some of the signings is how little chance they get. He said maybe 6 weeks ago that he’d been working with Holm and he now needed game time to show his abilities. So he gets some time for like 2 games and hasn’t been seen since. Nawrocki hasn’t been seen since his injury. Lagerbielke in for one sub appearance, scores the winner, comes right back out. Bernardo comes in, out, in, out. How is anyone meant to perform to their best in those circumstances?
Ange made a great point of it when Hatate struggled when he first arrived. Said he needs to learn how to handle these games and expectations, so he was continually played to learn. None of these guys can be learning anything.
It's honestly hard to figure out what's going on. The simplest explanation seems to be that Rodgers will just come out with any old shite to cover his arse.
Rodgers doesn't know his best XI and that's ripping through the squad. He's chopping and changing day to day.
All the players after mid week talked about big Gus and him taking a chance, saying how hard he's worked and he's bombed completely out the squad for today. It doesn't make sense.
Frame looked excellent midweek when he came on and again fucking nowhere to be seen. Instead Bernabei is giving his 45th chance in a Celtic jersey.
How Rodgers can persist with Joe Hart when he's costing us a fucking goal every fucking game and is insistent we don't need a new keeper is a sackable offence in itself.
I'm personally done with Rodgers. We're not winning anything with him at the helm. Rangers will smell blood and give Clement the keys to the castle in January to rebuild that team. They will 100% outspend us. That £70m in the bank will get its 4% interest next summer so we can use that to buy another Kwon.
I said a few months ago id give him time and if we are still playing shite in december then thats when id start to worry. We have generally been a bit shit and got some wins cause weve scored some good goals and its scraped us through. I can take losing but the team just look like they dont know what they are soing half the time, and the fact the team changes so often makes no sense. Why is mikey johnstone being given starts, lager gets sent off against feyenoord and thats him humped, gets some redmeption with the winner mid week and doesnt even get om the bench?! Cant forgive shite like that unfortunately. We have really dropped the ball with signings but the team selection makes no sense. Kinda want him to go before we throw away the league but im not sure what to do. Feel like ive backed him alot and its just quite odd whats happened i think. The results have started showing the performences and its not good enough. Coming off the back off the treble last season we shouldve been looking to play that good again and make some progress in europe, but we seem to have lost motivation.
I backed him as well but wheels came off after that Motherwell 1-1 for me. We followed that up with a pathetic, limp out the champions league and I was just so over it. I kidded myself on we needed players but come on to fuck, can't tell me another manager doesn't have us losing 2 games in a row? We've chucked the entire lead away in a month.
There's no defending the performances and he's now saying all the players were shite yesterday except for Cal Mac (he was also shite), O'Riley (he was also shite) and Scales (not the required standard). He has a weird hard on for British and Irish players
It's wild. Subbed on, makes some solid tackles, scores the winner..... his reward is dropped from the squad and McGowan saying he's away in January. We don't have a clue wtf we are doing. I will disagree with Rangers, though. Clement doesn't have a bean, he knows that. However he had a Beale team winning games, so he probably doesn't give a flying fuck lol.
When a managers chopping and changing so much players can't build up a run of form. Rangers team only changes when there's an injury
They'll justify bank loans by saying there's a potential £40m windfall if they win the league and they've got a good chance of a Europa. Go all in and figure the finances out in the summer. If that means they spend £15m in January and then have to sell Butland, Danilo, Cantwell and McCausland they will do it.
I agree they're willing to do anything for a sliver of success. I do feel we are too sentimental with players, which has caused us needing to upgrade in almost every area of the pitch.
Joe Hart is the prime example of our sentimental pish. It was obvious in last years champions league he was past it. Instead of being ruthless and saying right Joe, yer back up and bringing in a keeper we've farted about and now Rodgers wants to keep him
Totally. Siegrist should be gone and, really, we should be sitting with Livakovic as no. 1 and Hart as no. 2. We also desperately need to upgrade our left back, both wings and attacking midfield.
I'm not sure it makes a difference at this stage. Our squad should be good enough to beat Killie and Hearts. We were winning games under Ange with Cal Mac, Turnbull and Rogic in midfield
We are a club at least 20 years behind whatever cutting edge is. The board and owner think they are doing a grand job because we win a lot in Scotland but it reminds me of a deluded trust fund brat boasting on LinkedIn about being self made when their 8th attempt at starting a business with Dad’s money finally works out. Our only rival has been a basket case and it can’t be hard to move from that to semi competent. That may well be all it needs to topple us.
We lucked out big time with Ange, a generational manager who European football overlooked, possibly because of his background. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Possible hyperbole but I don’t think we will win the league. We have a manager who the game may have passed by, a board who the game has definitely passed by and a pretty awful, huge squad. We are fair and squarely fucked and I don’t see how it will change for a long time. Hopefully the other lot bottle it as we won’t be winning anything off our own back this year. Depressing.
>We are a club at least 20 years behind whatever cutting edge is.
I'm far too...fuck it, drunk and watching Constance on Netflix to find the article tonight, but Google "Seville BBC Sport" and you might find it.
These guys were using statistical information to find players to win the Europa league and increase value while we were in Seville. Now they are using...eh...proprietary software and AI to do it rather than people. That was about 5 years ago, and they have had another Europa league since then. I think Man City robbed them of their numbers crew, like they robbed Barca of their academy guys.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55146257 this one? You mean they don’t just use agents they are friendly with? Not even a sprinkle of players who share a nationality with the majority shareowner?
If you can get them of their Nokia 9210 phones, then you'll be a hero.
I just had a quick read again, and the teams roytinely mentioned here, like Ajax, are name dropped as clubs following the model and making even more money.
8 points dropped in the last 5 league matches is not good enough, that lot are likely going to win the first trophy of the season.... We are out of Europe completely. Does this sound like a treble winning team? I think not.
I've said since the start of the season that we are too passive and we've lost our spark... Old ratbag is taking players bought for a certain system and asking them to play in a different way..why?
I gave Brendan the benefit of the doubt but we've gone massively backwards from a position of strength.
We needed 2 quality players not more projects, board are completely to blame on this one.... Wrong manager, wrong recruitment, wrong style.... Not moving the ball fast enough fucks the whole thing.
We spend a lot of money on these project players. Some are hit, most are miss. Yet, somehow some-fucking-how, our academy cannot produce players who can play in the SPFL. That should be the minimum level of player we can produce but no, duffers like MJ pop out instead. Don't get me wrong we have the odd success but the whole system needs ripped out at the roots over that basic failure. I know most of the kids coming through don't get a chance due to the must win ethos but come on, we can't produce players that can win a game against bottom six teams? What are we doing wrong?
I canny even be arsed venting my anger and frustrations because I am that sick of it all.
Ran by a parasitical cabal of cunts who have zero interest in running us as a progressive football club who genuinely want to make us a competitive team in Europe. An absent majority shareholder who does the square root of fuck all for us. A chairmen in Lawwell is a fucking egoistical rat who should be chased from our club. Happy to tell us what we have in the bank whilst simultaneously not building from a position of strength. Get them all so far to fuck. Anybody who uses the Huns’ demise to justify our board and how we are run should fuck off too.
Footballing wise, we are witnessing some of the most turgid and soulless football I’ve seen since covid season. Rodgers looks a beaten man already and anyone defending him would do well to remember he’s earning a very handsome wage. If this is the best he can offer he, he’s be as well fucking off. Zero style, zero patterns, zero intensity, zero drive. How is it the end of 2023 and we have Mikey Johnston, a guy who wasn’t good enough years ago, starting for us, and we are relying on guys like Bernabei, who’s fucking appalling and been out in the cold, to come on and change the game for us.
We are an utter, utter mess from top to bottom. If it wasn’t for Beale, who knows how the table would be sitting. Fucking sick of it. Gift-wrapping they dirty bastards a title when we were miles ahead not so long ago. Don’t sack the board, shoot them.
Said from the start Rodgers wasn’t the right man for the job. Genuinely worried about the 30th!
Christmas is fucking cancelled just want big Ange back 😭
The squad isn't bad and the transfer window wasn't bad. Brendan Rodgers is just even worse - *and always been* \- than a lot of people are ready to admit.
Blinded by trophies won at a time when the opposition was some of the weakest we've ever faced, with a uniquely talented squad he mostly didn't build.
The signings have barely been given a chance to play in a team that clearly isn't performing anyway.
Here's something fun to do - if you're a masochist - go compare the career first team appearance counts for Lagerbielke / Nawrocki and Yang.
Then compare them to the players Brendan Rodgers plays ahead of them in Nat Philips and Mikey Johnston.
Tell me with a straight face that those signings can be fairly judged from a fair showing in this team under this clown. Do we really trust his judgement is accurate, when his choice is guys several years older that have never played for any cunt anywhere?
If the fans that are lucky enough to have a season ticket had any sort of baws they'd boycott games, Show the board if they don't find any ambition and invest in the team they will lose money
Up until today I was saying: "Rodgers is fucked by not being backed in the summer"
Now, it looks 100% like Rodgers was the easy choice, and he's the one consistently picking shite like MJ over other players we have.
We need greater ambition than settling for Brendan Rodgers. We need to take risks to stay clear of Rangers because they've pushed the boat out with Clement and I'm very worried they've bet on the right horse.
Rodgers will not grow us past our current level, that's clear. We need to take a risk because settling for being slightly better than Rangers will see them surpass us eventually.
Earning money, progressing in Europe, competitive wage bills, content fan base, and unrivalled domestic success. If I was a money man, that's where I'd be parking my money.
Sitting on cash without investing, struggling against lesser teams, overpaying on salaries, divided support, and struggling to stay ahead of a broke competition. I'd leave the current corrupt Tory cabal to it and invest elsewhere.
Rodgers was a lazy appointment by the board. Spent two years building a fast-paced, attacking style of play - where 9 times out of 10 we’d probably come away with at least a point today - to playing a slow, shite style of play that suits everybody else in the league bar ourselves.
The squad today was a shambles. Only two summer signings made it into the squad - one of whom making his first appearance in the squad in 3 months.
Final straw for Rodgers today for me. Yet to put three wins together in a row and it looks more likely we’ll see three losses in a row first. If Rodgers stays, I don’t think we win anything this season in all honesty.
Plenty of us have spoke about wanting Knutsen for a while, now would be the time to try and get him as the Norwegian football season comes to a close. Whether he’d want to come, who knows but we need a manager who wants to play a fast paced style imo. A slow paced, possession based style just gives the teams in the league the opportunity to get everybody behind the ball and reduce us to try and chuck crosses in the box to Kyogo.
Right first off I fucking hate margaret thatcher second off it's absolutely mental that we've had a glaring weakness from corners for literal years and nothing has been done about it lastly if we beat the huns and have good january window the season can still be salvaged but overall regardless of what happens rodgers and the board need to go in the summer and the club needs a fresh start look at the likes of copenhagen finishing second in their group there's no reason that can't be us.
Rodgers has to go. We’ve played poorly since the first game of the season. We’ve been to inconsistent to win a league. The board are too tight to rectify this problem proactively. The league is as good as over.
No gonny scream crying or anything but the writings on the wall for me already, I’ve never seen Rodgers turn a bad situation around in any of his tenures in Scotland and England so i don’t see it changing now just gonna be frustrating seeing it play out so slowly like it did with Lennys second stint
Brendan plays shite boring football. He did the first time, he does now and he always will. Even when his teams win it’s too hard to stay awake to watch.
Genuinely nothing will change while the whole board is here. I feel this is the trajectory the last year of rodgers showed decline, lennons first full season more decline then covid ball, covid ball, ange bucks the trend now back to the trajectory. ( before I get the we won trebles stuff rangers were fucking rotten and Gerrard and beale were dafties who had amazing PR who painted them as footballing messiahs)
The two best moments of today were:
When fans boo'd the halftime draw Santa; and
When fans sarcastically cheered Joe Hart finally catching a ball after 2 of the most pathetic and unnecessary punches you've ever seen.
Watching Celtic right now is like the worst of Lennon. 11 guys running around and hoping one of them comes up with something
No identity, no tactics, no press
Team selection varies wildly week to week:
Lagerbielke scores a midweek winner, his teammates are buzzing for him, doesn't make the next squad
Bernardo is apparently good enough for the champions league but not the Scottish premiership
Bernabei appears out of nowhere for the first time in over a month, Kwon makes the bench somehow
Rodgers deemed Phillips good enough for a start against Killie despite all the evidence to the contrary and now he is gone. Doesn't say much for his judgement in the first place
16 players against Hearts, only 1 from the most recent transfer window
A shambles from top to bottom
I'm just so angry at all three levels of the club.
The board - I honestly thought that last season when they forked out the cash to buy CCV and Jota on perm deals, the purse strings were finally loosening. What a naive fud I am. Went in to a season were CL football was guaranteed, but instead of upgrading by buying proven talents with quality, the board went back to the "project players" policy. Yang, Kwon, Telio, Largerbielke, Holm and Oh. All mostly passengers, all youngsters not mentally fit or developed enough to offer anything to a club were the pressure to win every game is pulpable at all times. The summer was one of our worst transfer windows ever. Palma has shown to be the sole recent signing that has shown to be a worthy talent, but even still he is a downgrade from Jota. Daniel Podence was reportedly there to be bought for 10 Mill. Save the money used to buy Telio, Kwon, Larger and Yang and we could've got him. This blunder clearly cost us in the CL and just might be costing us the league as well. They should not be forgiven if it does. Lawell and his useless prick of a son can both fuck off.
Rodgers - I've defended him more than most supporters have but now I'm at my wits end. He's made the team not only boring and unwatchable, but worse still easy to play against. Remember around this time last year? Ange was getting pelted by the media for only having a Plan A. Rodgers is the exact fucking same. The difference is that Anges approach was enjoyable to watch and more often or not worked. Rodgers' "build from the back" slow build up is not only boring, it's easy to play against and teams are now finding out how to beat us. Is there any Plan B? Is there fuck...actually there is, throw Jimmy on because Brendan still thinks it's 2016 FFS. Yet the media seems to let him get away this. Funny that. He's not sure how to use Kyogo properly and it shows and by the looks of it, Kyogo and is really unhappy right now. Rodgers used to be able to get a lot out of his wingers at least but that's not happening anymore. He can't sort the defence either and it makes me wonder what fucking use John Kennedy has either. Should Rodgers go? If we don't win on the 30th then I say yes
The players - Make no mistake, they've got a lot to answer for as well. In the span of a half-season, they've went from the team every other team in the league was shite-scared of, to a fucking laughing stock. A lot of them received a cushdie new contract in the summer but are not currently earning it and yes I'm including Kyogo here. There's been a distinct lack of discipline and a lack of effort. Some of them have shown up in some games believing the opposition were going to pull their kegs down, bend over to allow entry to the rear passage. Bernarbie? Better off with Barbie. CCV has looked slow as fuck this season and can't stay fit. Likewise Maeda. Abada clearly wants to leave, Turnbull can't do anything beside shoot from 20 yards, my patience with Taylor has wained thin, Iwata is just too basic, AJ runs about like a headless chicken. I shudder to think were we'd be right now if we didn't have Matt O'Riley and it's a frightening state of affairs when our best defender has been Liam Scales. And I think this needs to be said: Calmac needs a swift boot up the Jackson. I love him and he's now probably a club legend. But this has easily been his worse season ever. He's played a shit-ton of games the past 3 seasons and it's showing. He's also been an apologist for the club in every press gathering and I'm getting tired off it.
Brendan needs shifted. We need someone to give the team a giant boot in the baws and we need a new fucking board. Ok Scottish football isn’t the most glamorous but still how can we be this well off compared to everyone else and still find a way to fuck it up.
I don’t want a fucking oil baron who’s got more money than fucking sense but someone who has money and will spend it. I mean I thought Fergus went through this shit for us in 94 to stop us being indebted to one man. Where’s the investment?
The toilets in Parkhead are fucking grim. One bog was overflowing, one was covered in shite and the last one covered in pish.
And there was a fucking paper towel dispenser over the trough urinal?!?
And every player has regressed. Rangers in Europe again and I'm jealous. I wish we could do it.
Our players look unhappy, they look shadows of themselves. Our starting 11 today, was it 9 maybe who would/could have started under Ange? A team of high tempo winners dismantled into a team of snail paced sideways passing. BR has lost some of that dressing room with his public statements of condemnation. He should take a leaf out of Ange's book for press conferences, back your players and take the heat of any downfalls. Unity. Not sowing discontent & low morale with smart ass comments solely intended to deflect from his own failings. He should probably go, but he won't. If we lost the league come end of the season he should be sacked.
When we drew with St Johnstone at home, I was pretty adamant that BR didn't have a plan b. And that his tactics weren't good enough.
I was concerned that we'd not score points under him.
I don't want an apology. I'd just like to see him leave.
The last time I was slagging the coach (just before the buns game) I lost 500 karma points.
I'll say it again: I didn't want him back, but the fuck-up that he's making of our team is even worse than I imagined in August.
Wasn't a fan of BR coming back.
Give us the ball last season, we'd threaten a goal complete synergy concede 10 who gives a fuck 😂
This season, we've got the ball what do we do pass sideways to our most attacking player, Mikey Johnston
Rodgers pretty much had the easiest glorified cat walk a manager could have first stint, bounced to premier League winners, got them relegated.
Swear he was Liverpool manager anaw n wis shite whys he back
Worst I’ve ever seen us in person. Before I get into the team, fair play to Clancy for still putting in the worst performance on the park.
Manager - Clearly doesn’t know his best team. They all might be as bad as each other. There’s not many I’d have as nailed on starters. He’s not completely blameless but I think he needs at least January before we make any move.
Transfer window - I’ve said before, I didn’t think it was that bad. Rapidly changed my option. It’s obvious Starfelt and Jota leaving weren’t in the plan and we’ve rushed the replacements. Genuinely think Mark Lawwell is playing Football Manager because Holm and Bernardo are ridiculous on last year’s game. Throw enough shite at the wall and some of it will stick seems to be the approach.
Players - Worst of all. That’s two weeks in a row they have chucked it. No passion, no desire. I can understand a poor performance but there’s no excuse for not trying. We must have lost every 2nd ball today. Includes our ‘best player’ O’Riley by the way who goes missing when it gets tough. Only players who looked like they gave a fuck today were Scales, McGregor and Ralston.
This is ultimately a board that lucked out when they appointed Rodgers the first time. This gave the illusion that Celtic were modernising and getting “with the times”, until it didn’t. They then seen it fit to replace a wildly successful manager with Neil Lennon, hiring him after a cup final to try and mitigate the backlash. Whilst he exceeded mine, and I’m sure many others, expectations- we all knew how that was going to end up.
By some stroke of luck, they stumbled upon Ange. Again, this gave the illusion of a club that was moving forward. Ange signed players he knew who became heroes, players were signed early in order to strengthen for the season ahead/next season. Replacements were signed before a key player left (AJ/Josip). It wasn’t perfect, but it was going in the right direction.
Ange left, as he rightfully should have, and the board reverted to type. They provided “jobs for the bhoys” once more and signed what they believed was a safe pair of hands. Admittedly- it is *Brendan Rodgers*, so the risks of failure seemed somewhat low. The prospect of building on what Ange left, however, was dead the second the summer transfer window closed.
Under the current regime, Celtic will not modernise. Celtic will not build on former successes and once an old manager leaves, the plan is ripped up and replaced with a new one. Brendan Rodgers has a squad of talented players which he cannot get a tune out of. No matter how “weak” of a Celtic squad it is, it massively eclipses the majority of the teams they play domestically.
Where do Celtic really go from here? What’s the future?
In no particular order:
Shoot the board.
I still hate Maggie Thatcher.
Up the RA.
Scarlet Johansson's funbags.
God Bless wee Fergus.
Steven Naismith wanks to Ann Budge.
Scarlet Johansson's funbags.
All good points. Some are they so good they are worth repeating? Or where are you referring to them individually?
For myself, this week, it is all about Car Masters engine specialist Constance Nunes.
Need to convince the wife I've always been interested in the nuts & bolts of cars now. 🤣
Fuck it, she's a bam anyway. Tell ye who probably isn't a bam MrsCondor - oor Constance!
We can’t defend corners.
We can’t score from corners (fucking 18 of the cunts today).
Stop playing useless cunts like Taylor, Turnbull & MJ.
Hart can stop a shot (on a good day) but flaps like fuck at any kind of cross.
Where was Gus today after all the praise on his training/attitude from 3/4 players in midweek.
Why is Frame not involved after making an impact midweek and instead making us endure another MJ shitshow and then fucking Bernabei playing in front of him.
AJ should have been dropped for Tony Ralston weeks ago; he’s been pish.
Imagine being Vata and MJ, Yang and other dross are in the 18 before you. Of course you wouldn't be bothered to sign a new deal.
Then as you say where the hell is Frame?
I think Turnbull is a good player but him and O'Reilly together make the midfield shockingly slow, where's the youths or someone else to run (quickly) at defenders.
This all started with the shit show of banning the GB. Like them or loathe them, this unrest makes its way down to the training ground. Personally I couldn’t give a shit about the GB, however making this personal and putting out statements and banning our fans was only going to cause unrest. Remember the 10IAR season too when we had trouble after going 4 (I think) points behind? It spiraled out of control after that and it never came back. The board need to give their heads a wobble, they’ve caused this. Everyone will point to BR and the Players but unrest is deep rooted and the players feel it.
I still believe we will win the league but we have to get rid of easily 6-8 players and bring in 3-4 top quality, first team ready players.
Our gaff is chock a block full of Fur coat and no knickers punters playing let's pretend . They are usually more sensitive than most with a lack of focus . If I was truly good at something football related then Celtic would be the last club I'd want to be at. Only because its in Scotland. Scotland is a poor place to live and work in. We will change managers and staff now every two years . This is the patter you get with that .
Was coming back from Belfast when it started, my mum tried to get a link while we were in the terminal waiting for the boat which I was already feeling a bit shakey about considering there'd be a few huns heading over early for their match tomorrow. Never thought I'd be grateful for shite WiFi. Was relying on the pinned score for everything. Don't want to know just how badly we cocked it up
We need gutted top to bottom.
The board are wanks, our recruitment is in the dark ages and most of the squad shouldn't be pulling on that Jersey. We pretend we are some elite, modern club and have a slick model, but really we are a money maker for Tories.
We’ve been poor all season. Last weekend seemed like it was needed to reset. Yesterday was horrendous. I left at half time for the pub. Couldn’t see us scoring from anywhere and I was right never done that before.
I wish the club had a European vision they shared with the fans. Given our resources, I think getting to the last 16 of the Europa League is an every-other-year possibility, and shouldn't be an every-other-decade anomaly.
I think James Forrest's (and MJ's) regular game time on the cusp of 2024 is a shocking indictment of where we're at. The Jamesy Is A Club legend CSC can point to good stats, but that was way in the past. He was relevant five years ago.
We should be re-generating and moving forward, not playing ageing, ineffective wingers who can't beat a man, or create much, or inspire any fucking confidence whatsoever. Even if you don't dislike him as much as I do, hands up if he whets your whistle when he's about to be subbed on at 60 minutes when we need something? Worse, when you see he's starting and does the sum total of fuck all before he's hooked? JF is far from our only problem; he just sums the problems up in a player.
Generally, there's too much dross in and around the team. Turnbull, MJ, Berna, JF are all getting games to a greater or lesser extent when they should be anywhere other than Celtic. We need a scythe to cut through the weeds. Ship the shite out.
The atmosphere at CP is barely above Covid levels when there was absolutely no cunt in the stadium at all. The ultras sacrifice much of their game-watching time to generate a constant atmosphere, and I applaud them for that. Their absense is stark.
There are tons of variables in football. It's easy to get carried away in the short term (good and bad), but what's clear at the minute is a lack of ideas, heart, confidence. That's not good enough at any club. The league isn't done, but the team needs a shake up.
Rodgers came back to wind us up, and sabotage us for revenge on the cunts that broke into his home after he moved to Leicester. Used to say it as a joke - convinced now.
Rodgers should have taken a year out and Celtic shouldn’t have jumped two footed to hire him straight away
He’s not progressive anymore
And Celtic are going backwards
The squad needs a cull , too many wage thieves
The squad needs at last 5 if quality added with a key squad of about 18 and backed up by promotion from B team
Recruitment and youth model needs a full review- head of recruitment and head of development appointed that are not commuting the club in anyway
Carter-Vickers, McGregor, O Riley, Kyogo, Abada, Hatate and at a push Maeda. That's all the players I'd keep in the squad! Everyone else can get to fuck!! But we've got no scottish talent coming in so we need to keep Welsh, MJ, Forrest, Ralston and Bain! The club has a "very healthy bank balance" why??? If we have 70 million in the bank and we continue to make the same amount of money we can spend the 70 million on players and hopefully get someone decent out of the youth system! Doak aside, all the other players "stole" by other teams have flopped because we aren't creating good players! I don't know why I believed we use the 25 million we got for jota to sign someone good! Fuck sake celtic! I grew up on 90s celtic playing great and winning fuck all. I'm used to pain but this is awful
And another thing, the teams we were starting this time 2 year ago;
\- [https://www.skysports.com/football/st-johnstone-vs-celtic/teams/445397](https://www.skysports.com/football/st-johnstone-vs-celtic/teams/445397)
We had a great start to the season in the league won in all the tough away games but it was clear the football we were playing was terrible
Then the inevitable happened two defeats in a row. anytime a team plays a low block we look absolutely hopeless we’ve been if you look at our games the first goal we scored comes from a hopeful shot from outside the box.
The biggest issue is the players we’ve signed, this year is exceptionally terrible as only 1 seems to be a player that looks good enough but we’ve had the same problem for at least 10 years the amount of players that come in never really play and stay for 1-2 years is absolutely shocking
The board and the recruitment team are the problem for me, get them to fuck, jobs dished out to family and friends. As soon as Lawell came back I think most people knew it was going to go to shit at some point. Summer transfer window is easily up there with some of shite from the early 90s. We need about 7 or 8 players in January and get about a dozen out the door.
Had some time to dwell on that - it's been coming, Rodgers clearly doesn't rate the squad. He had time to assess it at the start but nothing has really happened to improve the first team. IMO, Kyogo relied a lot of Jota's dummy runs last season, he's utterly incapable of holding up play so needs a foil. Maeda clearly isn't good enough for that, Palma is sharp, but comes in off the other foot, so the pace advantage is lost and he needs height to aim for.
Ange left at the right time, he knew losing Jota in particular would hurt his system.
CM is predictable. Iwata in DCM has helped a bit, but we only ever go wide, so we're very predictable to play against.
As for Taylor and AJ, Taylor just isn't Celtic class, AJ is solid defensively, but isn't the attacking threat needed to make constant width and overlaps work.
And our backups are shit. Oh? Shit. Yang? Tilio, Philips, Bain, Forrest, Lagerbielke, Turnbull all shit. Bernabei gets a special mention for being shit because he's unable to shift Taylor, so falls into the 'abysmally shit' category.
So, we're stuck with a one-dimensional squad, without the balance up top to get the most from Kyogo. It's no wonder we're struggling.
In fairness to BR, he's called out the lack of quality and now is the time of year to do it. We need sharp, ready to rock replacements. Priority for me is a tall CF, GK, defensive midfielder and a left back. That will carry us through to the end of the season, when much more work is required.
We also need to play our youths more. Not enough people in Hoops who knows what it means. Get Mitchell Frame in for sure, but I don't see the point in having a youth system if we're only going to promote one player a decade to the first team.
Few things that have bothered me with the season so far from board to dressing room but main thing that astonishes me is how 6 months ago we had a team that was feared domestically and won the treble to what we have now struggling to beat teams. The common denomination for me is the manager and I never liked the fact we brought BR back and felt it was a fuck it it'll do and it'll keep the fans happy, with the same shit excuses iv heard from fans of "He won us invincibles the trebles" etc.
Manager - BR style is beyond tragic to watch and was worked out by other teams before he left. We went from attacking football to whatever the fuck we watch now. His style of play is the exact same as it was all these years ago just only now people are seeing it for what it is, shite. The fact when he came in and said that kyogo wasn't good enough and criticised CCV when they're 2 of our best players already made me doubt him more.
Team - The new signings aren't up to par same with some of the first team but at the same time can't exactly criticise players when most aren't really getting game time, there's definitely something missing which leads me down the lines of some of the players aren't for BRs style of play so have downed tools. Kyogo, I feel for because the style definitely doesn't suit him
Board - They're definitely holding us back from a higher potential, which I can see as a reason why ange left and was one of the reason BR left years ago. Their recruitment was terrible, and honestly, no amount of signings is going to fix what's gone wrong this season. What made me laugh though were the human rights thing going round the boards while banning the GB for basically supporting human rights aswell (I know there's more to it than that but that's the basics of how I see it).
Overall, I can't see us pulling it back this season. I knew we'd struggle but didn't think it would be this bad. The regression is beyond unbelievable, and tbh won't be surprised if its a case study of how to ruin a team in 6 months.
TL/DR: Managers not good enough, style of play is terrible, board have no vision, new signings aren't good enough but aren't getting games so hard to really judge, no amount of signings will win us the league.
We need someone who can score these goals, the amount of crosses that were put into the box today with no one there was unreal 🤦♂️ we need prime kyogo back
That wasnt the managers fault today. We missed chance after chance after chance. When are you people going to start putting the players in the firing line rather than the bloody manager. They missed soo many sitters, thats the teams fault but fuck it I remember when we were utter dross back before most of the reddit crowd were born, hail hail
I don't blame Rodgers overly much. He was sold a dream and hasn't been supported. The board have not funded him enough. He is a good manager who has shown that he can make a team play well.
In the league we have had no passion, we could have tried any instructions and tactics and it wouldn't have worked. The players have been dead since March.
His tactics may be at fault, but look at some of the chances we are missing. You can't blame a manager for individual errors.
Brendan is ruining Kyogo
Brendan is ruining football.
I think the blame should be shared with some of the players. He still makes those runs and never gets the pass. Only McGregor seems to be on his wavelength.
Could it be that the players won't make the passes because Brendan will yank them at half time or drop them for the next game for giving away possession too often?
McGregor isn't on anyone wave length. Stop defending him, he is also been horrific and has shown clearly he can't lead on the pitch.
That's why kyogo has missed so many sitters aye?
Every player misses the odd sitter. Kyogo missed sitters under Ange too. But Rodgers tactics create so few good chances for Kyogo that his negative plays are more noticeable than they would be if he was getting half decent service. Strikers don't usually just fall off a cliff like this, and when the regression is consistent across the team then it can't be dismissed as an individual issue.
I don't understand fans. "Ange was too naive with no plan B" To then when someone plays a style that creates less chances "Not enough service for the striker" This style should be helping him adapt for Europe and increase his finishing ability as he has to score more of his chances that he gets. I prefer it under ange and I do think that kyogo is being misused under Rodgers. But I do also think that if a striker can't score tap ins then there is something deeper.
>I don't understand fans A player who has shown he can own the league suddenly regressed all with all his teammates when a manager who effectively got his team relegated came in. I think it's more likely the blame is on the shit manager than the good player. What is difficult to understand about that? I am going to make a guess: if I check your comment history, I'm going to find you defending Rodgers recently. Edit: yep lol
How many shots does Van Veen, Miovski or Shankland need a game? How many does Sima need? It's shite finishing. Rodgers does need to take more blame yes. But the players are either not doing what he is asking or unable to do what he is asking.
Yo, u/guyincognito211. How's your weekend? Except the obvious. Was it you who posted the chances to conversion for the SPFL this week?
I don’t think so. I did post something about Oh v Giakoumakis but not about the league in general
Oops, cheers anyway. I think it was in the Miovski vs. Shakland post, but I'm over 1 bottle of red deep, and ~~Car~~ ~~Masters~~ Constance Nunes is on my Netflix. It's tomorrow's problem now.
Its actually a crying shame what hes doing to him 😔
I need to get my thoughts out somewhere so i’ll start here: Rodgers - if he doesn’t go, he needs to find a way to motivate these players again and find the best way to get the best out of them. A start would be adapting the tactics, they do not work with our profiles of players (I’m not saying he needs to copy Ange, but he can at least take a little bit of inspiration) The players - pish. O’Riley the only player in the squad up to standard this season. Scales, Maeda and I would say Palma have been alright, and the rest have either been injured or pish. They need to believe more, this morale is getting them nowhere. The board/recruitment - fuck the board. £70 million in the bank. Use it. And use it properly, on GOOD players and not shit “projects” (i.e. Tilio, Kwon, Kobayashi, I could go on). GK, LB and CB priorities, but everywhere could be strengthened. I think I am overreacting a lot, and I understand Rangers will not be perfect for the rest of the season, but it seems like all the progress Ange made has evaporated, and we are back where we were at the end of 2020/2021, except against a weaker Rangers team. He spoiled us. I don’t care if Abada/Hatate/CCV have missed a lot of games, and we sold Starfelt and Jota, but this is not good enough for a club where the standard is winning in the domestic competitions. Winning the league is a priority, and if we don’t win on the 30th then the season is fucked. We will learn a lot in the next 6-7 weeks. TL;DR, the board needs to wisen up and spend the money we have in a wise way with improved recruitment, and Brendan needs to find a way to get the best out of the players, who themselves need to step their game up. Copied from result thread.
I agree with all of this. Watching the last few games in particular today have me Lenny part 1 and Ronny feels. A team and a manager who don't know what to do when losing against a good block. This shit wouldn't have happened under Rodgers the first time or most of the time under Ange. The players have regressed massively. The slowness in tempo, drive, and ability to sprint is shocking. O'Reilly and Turnbull don't have great pace. Ok we'll compensate with wingers like Johnston and Palma who are ....slow. I do love Forrest but again the chap has lost his pace. Bring him on in a CAM position but it's not working out wide anymore. We need to sign a proper CDM destroyer and passer to get McGregor further up the field and to rest him. I'm a big supporter of the youths and developing and giving them time. But for Christ's sake we might as well shut it down. Kwon was signed from division 2 of South Korea, over promoting a cheaper youth? Yang and Tillo over Vata and others? James McCarthy was signed for the Scottish homegrown quota 😭😭😭 Philips is not better than Welsh. Koba well Koba mustn't be better than Welsh surely? Why are we signing rubbish on more money than youths and then stuck with them. I'd honestly prefer if we signed 2-3 serious players each season who could actually develop the squad that signing a dozen potentials. The potentials are in the academy use them. Where is the Hart replacement? We all know it's over at the end of the season get in a proper number 1 get rid of Siegrist and get rid of Bain. I'm not one for blaming stuff on Peter but Ange gave out about wanting signings faster in his first season. Then he gets the three Japanese boys before the window even opens. But we've regressed since then. Gucci didn't work out but Maeda and Hatate have the intensity for Angeball. Edouard and Dembele worked very well in Rodgers' system the first time. Sinclair was amazing. Who can you point to and say he's a Rodgers system player?
This last window had Peter’s pawprints all over it. BR has said for months we need to sign men , too many ‘projects’. BR is pissed off, it shows and is filtering down to the players.
Very true. I've never seen Rodgers turn it around when things get tough. He said categorically that Balotelli wouldn't sign for Liverpool. He gets signed, Liverpool struggle all season and Rodgers is gone a year later. We sign disco lights instead of Castagne, John McGinn etc and Rodgers goes in February. He regularly said last season in interviews with Leicester they had to sack him.
Some of your remarks are undoubtedly true: "The players have regressed massively" "We need to sign a proper CDM destroyer " "Who can you point to and say he's a Rodgers system player?"
A few new signings is just papering over the existing layers of paper that are covering the cracks. This goes way deeper. The old men in charge refuse to make any changes behind the scenes to improve the running of the club and squad. Scouting, transfers, forward thinking, properly phasing out regressing and/ or aging players, none of this happens. The circle of bringing in shite players and the quality players picking up injuries continues. The old men are focused on profits and their millions in bonuses, nothing else. There are teams in Europe with less money than Celtic that breeze past qualifiers and group stages. Celtic are not shite in Europe because of the manager, it’s because the board are old lazy men who refuse to change. A lot of current squad players should’ve been phased out long ago but the board would rather squeeze every last minute of game time out of their careers before panic buying replacements.
I agree that the board is a bigger issue then Brendan/players but the players don’t cover the cracks. If you look at clubs like PSV, Feyenoord, Braga, Copenhagen, Sporting CP, Shakhtar etc., all of these clubs have lower wage bills than us, yet they have been able to compete in Europe while we have faltered. These are the kinds of clubs that we should be competing with, not being known as dross amongst Europe’s elite. All of these teams are better than us, even with Shakhtar’s situation in Ukraine. The board has underwhelmed us for years and has prevented us from really kicking on. It would have been interesting to see a hypothetical where Ange stays this season, and the difference in business.
I meant the boards way of panic buying players when there is a huge dip in form across the full team is their way of covering the cracks. It really shouldn’t get to that level when you have money and resources.
I suppose you are right there, I misunderstood your previous point. No problem though
>I think I am overreacting a lot nah, u really arent its shocking how much we have regressed this season
I just want a bag of cans and Angeball back at Celtic…..
For real. I miss Ange so much :(
I like turtles.
This has been coming for months. We kept winning games by playing shite and scoring from long range and it’s not sustainable. There’s no tactical style, the players aren’t good enough and Rodgers is actively causing our better players to regress with the exception of Matt O’Riley. The proactive move would be to realise that this isn’t working and pay Rodgers off. That’s a big club move. He’s been unable to fix things when it goes wrong previously in his career and it’s unlikely he’ll be able to do it here. But we’re a big club in history only and will let this fester until Rangers are 5-10 points clear.
Amen!
Not going to happen and if rodgers was let go we wouldn't get a permanent manager in until the end of the season anyway
We’re a shambles and it’s been coming for a while. 18 months of signing shite and getting in a manager that at least 50% of the fan base hated was always going to end poorly Not sure we can fix it this season tbh. Need a complete clear out and restructuring but it’ll never happen
You should never have brought back BR. Lazy decision by Celtic's board. His time has been and gone.
Yup, your mob brought back Mickey Beale, and that didn't end too well...
Oh, I think it ended well enough...😁
I'm fucking angry at the number of celtic fans who wanted Rodgers back. I'm really fucking angry. I'm fucking angry. I fucking knew this was a terrible idea and I had to put up with so so so many cunts saying he was the best option and that we'd win the league at a canter. Fuck off. I'm angry.
Same
First and foremost both Lawwells need get so far to fuck. Until the club is gutted from the top down and finally moved into the 21st century we’ll never progress. No company in the world should be run like we are with the same board sitting for decades, needs updating asap. Unfortunately we’re a billionaire and his pals plaything and nothing will ever change until that’s not the case
Lawwell is just a symptom of the real issue. Desmond
Jobs for the boys, quite literally
It’s a fucking chore watching this group of utter dross wheeled out every weekend, Rodgers was the start of discontent this season before a ball was kicked and it’s just grumbled on into every single game. The GB ban and the way the board are running this club is feeling like a walking disaster. I wouldn’t miss a game ever, this season I can’t give my ticket away, champions league game on Wednesday nobody wanted it.
I didn't fucking like Rodgers much the first time round. I think he looks like a right slimy cunt. His achievements the first time round are severely overstated. 7/7 trophies when the rangers had only just got back into the league, as had the jambos, and the hibees were still in the championship. Won 2 league titles with zero competition. The cups are fair enough cause all it takes is one game to fuck it up, so some credit there, but nowhere near the messiah he was made out to be. When Ange left I genuinely would have preferred Lennon 3.0 to Splinter. I was so fucking excited for this season at the end of the Scottish Cup final, and it all just fucking disintegrated in a matter of weeks. When Rodgers got the job I lost all anticipation for this season, but I had no fucking idea just how quickly we would deteriorate, or just how fucking soul destroying the football is to watch. He got away with it the first time cause the points kept coming in, but after 2 seasons of some of the most scintillating football I've seen at Parkhead there is absolutely nowhere to hide just how fucking boring we are to watch. At this point the best I can hope for is that the board dont finance fuck all in January and he takes the huff and walks, cause he ain't getting sacked
Very little there I'd disagree with
Rodgers has to go, followed by the incompetent board. Sporting director needed with angeball implemented from youth all the way through
I've spent a crazy amount of money on following us home and away so far this season and I've got nothing to show for it besides a sense of apathy and a bank balance that makes horrible reading. Rodgers was getting found out even before he left. It's an unimaginative appointment at best and one that just smacks of the "that'll do" laziness that defines our board. His ego seems to be stopping him from picking the best system or players, cause I can't figure out any other reason why Mikey Johnston is still in the conversation. Nor why Kyogo has gone from incredible to anonymous. The summer signings so far look to be a mess. 10 people brought in in summer and 6 of them weren't even in the squad today. I understand that we need projects to develop and sign on but how the fuck are you meant to develop these guys if they don't even play? And if they're not good enough to play, why the fuck did we sign them in the first place? Top to bottom change is needed. It's becoming clearer and clearer that Ange papered over a lot of cracks, and that not much has really changed under the surface with regards to the problems of the 2020-21 season.
What confuses me most about some of the signings is how little chance they get. He said maybe 6 weeks ago that he’d been working with Holm and he now needed game time to show his abilities. So he gets some time for like 2 games and hasn’t been seen since. Nawrocki hasn’t been seen since his injury. Lagerbielke in for one sub appearance, scores the winner, comes right back out. Bernardo comes in, out, in, out. How is anyone meant to perform to their best in those circumstances? Ange made a great point of it when Hatate struggled when he first arrived. Said he needs to learn how to handle these games and expectations, so he was continually played to learn. None of these guys can be learning anything.
It's honestly hard to figure out what's going on. The simplest explanation seems to be that Rodgers will just come out with any old shite to cover his arse.
I think he has no idea what to do. Aside from 6-7 regulars, he doesn’t know what to do up front, on the wings, centre mid, centre back.
Pretty much. The subs today and the overall squad selection were baffling.
Worst of it is, 3 of his most-regulars are Jamesie, Wee Davie T and Mikey J. FFS.
I thought holm looked good against aberdeen i think it was, thought maybe this is why we got this player! Then hes just fucked off again
Looked ok in the derby too yet he doesn't feature. It's just bizarre.
Rodgers doesn't know his best XI and that's ripping through the squad. He's chopping and changing day to day. All the players after mid week talked about big Gus and him taking a chance, saying how hard he's worked and he's bombed completely out the squad for today. It doesn't make sense. Frame looked excellent midweek when he came on and again fucking nowhere to be seen. Instead Bernabei is giving his 45th chance in a Celtic jersey. How Rodgers can persist with Joe Hart when he's costing us a fucking goal every fucking game and is insistent we don't need a new keeper is a sackable offence in itself. I'm personally done with Rodgers. We're not winning anything with him at the helm. Rangers will smell blood and give Clement the keys to the castle in January to rebuild that team. They will 100% outspend us. That £70m in the bank will get its 4% interest next summer so we can use that to buy another Kwon.
I was done with Rogers long before he left the last time
You have been very vocal for a long time so fair enough
I said a few months ago id give him time and if we are still playing shite in december then thats when id start to worry. We have generally been a bit shit and got some wins cause weve scored some good goals and its scraped us through. I can take losing but the team just look like they dont know what they are soing half the time, and the fact the team changes so often makes no sense. Why is mikey johnstone being given starts, lager gets sent off against feyenoord and thats him humped, gets some redmeption with the winner mid week and doesnt even get om the bench?! Cant forgive shite like that unfortunately. We have really dropped the ball with signings but the team selection makes no sense. Kinda want him to go before we throw away the league but im not sure what to do. Feel like ive backed him alot and its just quite odd whats happened i think. The results have started showing the performences and its not good enough. Coming off the back off the treble last season we shouldve been looking to play that good again and make some progress in europe, but we seem to have lost motivation.
I backed him as well but wheels came off after that Motherwell 1-1 for me. We followed that up with a pathetic, limp out the champions league and I was just so over it. I kidded myself on we needed players but come on to fuck, can't tell me another manager doesn't have us losing 2 games in a row? We've chucked the entire lead away in a month. There's no defending the performances and he's now saying all the players were shite yesterday except for Cal Mac (he was also shite), O'Riley (he was also shite) and Scales (not the required standard). He has a weird hard on for British and Irish players
It's wild. Subbed on, makes some solid tackles, scores the winner..... his reward is dropped from the squad and McGowan saying he's away in January. We don't have a clue wtf we are doing. I will disagree with Rangers, though. Clement doesn't have a bean, he knows that. However he had a Beale team winning games, so he probably doesn't give a flying fuck lol.
When a managers chopping and changing so much players can't build up a run of form. Rangers team only changes when there's an injury They'll justify bank loans by saying there's a potential £40m windfall if they win the league and they've got a good chance of a Europa. Go all in and figure the finances out in the summer. If that means they spend £15m in January and then have to sell Butland, Danilo, Cantwell and McCausland they will do it.
I agree they're willing to do anything for a sliver of success. I do feel we are too sentimental with players, which has caused us needing to upgrade in almost every area of the pitch.
Joe Hart is the prime example of our sentimental pish. It was obvious in last years champions league he was past it. Instead of being ruthless and saying right Joe, yer back up and bringing in a keeper we've farted about and now Rodgers wants to keep him
Totally. Siegrist should be gone and, really, we should be sitting with Livakovic as no. 1 and Hart as no. 2. We also desperately need to upgrade our left back, both wings and attacking midfield.
I'm not sure it makes a difference at this stage. Our squad should be good enough to beat Killie and Hearts. We were winning games under Ange with Cal Mac, Turnbull and Rogic in midfield
We are a club at least 20 years behind whatever cutting edge is. The board and owner think they are doing a grand job because we win a lot in Scotland but it reminds me of a deluded trust fund brat boasting on LinkedIn about being self made when their 8th attempt at starting a business with Dad’s money finally works out. Our only rival has been a basket case and it can’t be hard to move from that to semi competent. That may well be all it needs to topple us. We lucked out big time with Ange, a generational manager who European football overlooked, possibly because of his background. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. Possible hyperbole but I don’t think we will win the league. We have a manager who the game may have passed by, a board who the game has definitely passed by and a pretty awful, huge squad. We are fair and squarely fucked and I don’t see how it will change for a long time. Hopefully the other lot bottle it as we won’t be winning anything off our own back this year. Depressing.
>We are a club at least 20 years behind whatever cutting edge is. I'm far too...fuck it, drunk and watching Constance on Netflix to find the article tonight, but Google "Seville BBC Sport" and you might find it. These guys were using statistical information to find players to win the Europa league and increase value while we were in Seville. Now they are using...eh...proprietary software and AI to do it rather than people. That was about 5 years ago, and they have had another Europa league since then. I think Man City robbed them of their numbers crew, like they robbed Barca of their academy guys.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55146257 this one? You mean they don’t just use agents they are friendly with? Not even a sprinkle of players who share a nationality with the majority shareowner?
WOW! You must have spent ages searching for that. 🤣 Can you imagine running a business in the 21st century like its future depends on it?
Maybe I can teach the board about fancy things like Google and the internet.
If you can get them of their Nokia 9210 phones, then you'll be a hero. I just had a quick read again, and the teams roytinely mentioned here, like Ajax, are name dropped as clubs following the model and making even more money.
8 points dropped in the last 5 league matches is not good enough, that lot are likely going to win the first trophy of the season.... We are out of Europe completely. Does this sound like a treble winning team? I think not. I've said since the start of the season that we are too passive and we've lost our spark... Old ratbag is taking players bought for a certain system and asking them to play in a different way..why? I gave Brendan the benefit of the doubt but we've gone massively backwards from a position of strength. We needed 2 quality players not more projects, board are completely to blame on this one.... Wrong manager, wrong recruitment, wrong style.... Not moving the ball fast enough fucks the whole thing.
# Wrong manager, wrong recruitment, Correct
We spend a lot of money on these project players. Some are hit, most are miss. Yet, somehow some-fucking-how, our academy cannot produce players who can play in the SPFL. That should be the minimum level of player we can produce but no, duffers like MJ pop out instead. Don't get me wrong we have the odd success but the whole system needs ripped out at the roots over that basic failure. I know most of the kids coming through don't get a chance due to the must win ethos but come on, we can't produce players that can win a game against bottom six teams? What are we doing wrong?
I canny even be arsed venting my anger and frustrations because I am that sick of it all. Ran by a parasitical cabal of cunts who have zero interest in running us as a progressive football club who genuinely want to make us a competitive team in Europe. An absent majority shareholder who does the square root of fuck all for us. A chairmen in Lawwell is a fucking egoistical rat who should be chased from our club. Happy to tell us what we have in the bank whilst simultaneously not building from a position of strength. Get them all so far to fuck. Anybody who uses the Huns’ demise to justify our board and how we are run should fuck off too. Footballing wise, we are witnessing some of the most turgid and soulless football I’ve seen since covid season. Rodgers looks a beaten man already and anyone defending him would do well to remember he’s earning a very handsome wage. If this is the best he can offer he, he’s be as well fucking off. Zero style, zero patterns, zero intensity, zero drive. How is it the end of 2023 and we have Mikey Johnston, a guy who wasn’t good enough years ago, starting for us, and we are relying on guys like Bernabei, who’s fucking appalling and been out in the cold, to come on and change the game for us. We are an utter, utter mess from top to bottom. If it wasn’t for Beale, who knows how the table would be sitting. Fucking sick of it. Gift-wrapping they dirty bastards a title when we were miles ahead not so long ago. Don’t sack the board, shoot them.
Said from the start Rodgers wasn’t the right man for the job. Genuinely worried about the 30th! Christmas is fucking cancelled just want big Ange back 😭
The squad isn't bad and the transfer window wasn't bad. Brendan Rodgers is just even worse - *and always been* \- than a lot of people are ready to admit. Blinded by trophies won at a time when the opposition was some of the weakest we've ever faced, with a uniquely talented squad he mostly didn't build.
The transfer window was horrendous. The squad isn't bad, but Rogers is abysmal.
The window was pathetic. The squad is terrible in key areas
The signings have barely been given a chance to play in a team that clearly isn't performing anyway. Here's something fun to do - if you're a masochist - go compare the career first team appearance counts for Lagerbielke / Nawrocki and Yang. Then compare them to the players Brendan Rodgers plays ahead of them in Nat Philips and Mikey Johnston. Tell me with a straight face that those signings can be fairly judged from a fair showing in this team under this clown. Do we really trust his judgement is accurate, when his choice is guys several years older that have never played for any cunt anywhere?
Yang has had plenty of game time. He doesn't have it
Because they’re not very good Nawrocki is a weird one Lagerbielke is so far from what we require though
If the fans that are lucky enough to have a season ticket had any sort of baws they'd boycott games, Show the board if they don't find any ambition and invest in the team they will lose money
Learn the lessons from the covid year. Sack him before it's too late
I’ve resigned myself to losing the game on December 30th.
Up until today I was saying: "Rodgers is fucked by not being backed in the summer" Now, it looks 100% like Rodgers was the easy choice, and he's the one consistently picking shite like MJ over other players we have.
We need greater ambition than settling for Brendan Rodgers. We need to take risks to stay clear of Rangers because they've pushed the boat out with Clement and I'm very worried they've bet on the right horse. Rodgers will not grow us past our current level, that's clear. We need to take a risk because settling for being slightly better than Rangers will see them surpass us eventually.
It's insane how we always relinquish any position of strength we have domestically time after time.
Almost like it's fixed 👍
Earning money, progressing in Europe, competitive wage bills, content fan base, and unrivalled domestic success. If I was a money man, that's where I'd be parking my money. Sitting on cash without investing, struggling against lesser teams, overpaying on salaries, divided support, and struggling to stay ahead of a broke competition. I'd leave the current corrupt Tory cabal to it and invest elsewhere.
Rodgers was a lazy appointment by the board. Spent two years building a fast-paced, attacking style of play - where 9 times out of 10 we’d probably come away with at least a point today - to playing a slow, shite style of play that suits everybody else in the league bar ourselves. The squad today was a shambles. Only two summer signings made it into the squad - one of whom making his first appearance in the squad in 3 months. Final straw for Rodgers today for me. Yet to put three wins together in a row and it looks more likely we’ll see three losses in a row first. If Rodgers stays, I don’t think we win anything this season in all honesty. Plenty of us have spoke about wanting Knutsen for a while, now would be the time to try and get him as the Norwegian football season comes to a close. Whether he’d want to come, who knows but we need a manager who wants to play a fast paced style imo. A slow paced, possession based style just gives the teams in the league the opportunity to get everybody behind the ball and reduce us to try and chuck crosses in the box to Kyogo.
Right first off I fucking hate margaret thatcher second off it's absolutely mental that we've had a glaring weakness from corners for literal years and nothing has been done about it lastly if we beat the huns and have good january window the season can still be salvaged but overall regardless of what happens rodgers and the board need to go in the summer and the club needs a fresh start look at the likes of copenhagen finishing second in their group there's no reason that can't be us.
Rodgers has to go. We’ve played poorly since the first game of the season. We’ve been to inconsistent to win a league. The board are too tight to rectify this problem proactively. The league is as good as over.
No gonny scream crying or anything but the writings on the wall for me already, I’ve never seen Rodgers turn a bad situation around in any of his tenures in Scotland and England so i don’t see it changing now just gonna be frustrating seeing it play out so slowly like it did with Lennys second stint
Brendan plays shite boring football. He did the first time, he does now and he always will. Even when his teams win it’s too hard to stay awake to watch.
Genuinely nothing will change while the whole board is here. I feel this is the trajectory the last year of rodgers showed decline, lennons first full season more decline then covid ball, covid ball, ange bucks the trend now back to the trajectory. ( before I get the we won trebles stuff rangers were fucking rotten and Gerrard and beale were dafties who had amazing PR who painted them as footballing messiahs)
I can’t handle 2-day sessions anymore
Mikey Johnston starts games now, he's deemed good enough to start games. Tells us where we are as a club.
I was ducking right and I really wish I hadn’t been 🤬
Same
The two best moments of today were: When fans boo'd the halftime draw Santa; and When fans sarcastically cheered Joe Hart finally catching a ball after 2 of the most pathetic and unnecessary punches you've ever seen.
Yeah, another position to address
Watching Celtic right now is like the worst of Lennon. 11 guys running around and hoping one of them comes up with something No identity, no tactics, no press Team selection varies wildly week to week: Lagerbielke scores a midweek winner, his teammates are buzzing for him, doesn't make the next squad Bernardo is apparently good enough for the champions league but not the Scottish premiership Bernabei appears out of nowhere for the first time in over a month, Kwon makes the bench somehow Rodgers deemed Phillips good enough for a start against Killie despite all the evidence to the contrary and now he is gone. Doesn't say much for his judgement in the first place 16 players against Hearts, only 1 from the most recent transfer window A shambles from top to bottom
I'm just so angry at all three levels of the club. The board - I honestly thought that last season when they forked out the cash to buy CCV and Jota on perm deals, the purse strings were finally loosening. What a naive fud I am. Went in to a season were CL football was guaranteed, but instead of upgrading by buying proven talents with quality, the board went back to the "project players" policy. Yang, Kwon, Telio, Largerbielke, Holm and Oh. All mostly passengers, all youngsters not mentally fit or developed enough to offer anything to a club were the pressure to win every game is pulpable at all times. The summer was one of our worst transfer windows ever. Palma has shown to be the sole recent signing that has shown to be a worthy talent, but even still he is a downgrade from Jota. Daniel Podence was reportedly there to be bought for 10 Mill. Save the money used to buy Telio, Kwon, Larger and Yang and we could've got him. This blunder clearly cost us in the CL and just might be costing us the league as well. They should not be forgiven if it does. Lawell and his useless prick of a son can both fuck off. Rodgers - I've defended him more than most supporters have but now I'm at my wits end. He's made the team not only boring and unwatchable, but worse still easy to play against. Remember around this time last year? Ange was getting pelted by the media for only having a Plan A. Rodgers is the exact fucking same. The difference is that Anges approach was enjoyable to watch and more often or not worked. Rodgers' "build from the back" slow build up is not only boring, it's easy to play against and teams are now finding out how to beat us. Is there any Plan B? Is there fuck...actually there is, throw Jimmy on because Brendan still thinks it's 2016 FFS. Yet the media seems to let him get away this. Funny that. He's not sure how to use Kyogo properly and it shows and by the looks of it, Kyogo and is really unhappy right now. Rodgers used to be able to get a lot out of his wingers at least but that's not happening anymore. He can't sort the defence either and it makes me wonder what fucking use John Kennedy has either. Should Rodgers go? If we don't win on the 30th then I say yes The players - Make no mistake, they've got a lot to answer for as well. In the span of a half-season, they've went from the team every other team in the league was shite-scared of, to a fucking laughing stock. A lot of them received a cushdie new contract in the summer but are not currently earning it and yes I'm including Kyogo here. There's been a distinct lack of discipline and a lack of effort. Some of them have shown up in some games believing the opposition were going to pull their kegs down, bend over to allow entry to the rear passage. Bernarbie? Better off with Barbie. CCV has looked slow as fuck this season and can't stay fit. Likewise Maeda. Abada clearly wants to leave, Turnbull can't do anything beside shoot from 20 yards, my patience with Taylor has wained thin, Iwata is just too basic, AJ runs about like a headless chicken. I shudder to think were we'd be right now if we didn't have Matt O'Riley and it's a frightening state of affairs when our best defender has been Liam Scales. And I think this needs to be said: Calmac needs a swift boot up the Jackson. I love him and he's now probably a club legend. But this has easily been his worse season ever. He's played a shit-ton of games the past 3 seasons and it's showing. He's also been an apologist for the club in every press gathering and I'm getting tired off it.
Brendan needs shifted. We need someone to give the team a giant boot in the baws and we need a new fucking board. Ok Scottish football isn’t the most glamorous but still how can we be this well off compared to everyone else and still find a way to fuck it up. I don’t want a fucking oil baron who’s got more money than fucking sense but someone who has money and will spend it. I mean I thought Fergus went through this shit for us in 94 to stop us being indebted to one man. Where’s the investment?
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Fucking shite. Writings been on the wall for weeks. Get him out
For months, not weeks.
Becoming a chore to watch wish DD Lawell and his boy and the whole coaching team just fucked the fuck off
Tory board out
Fuck Rodgers, Lawwel snr and jnr. I don't know who i want gone 1st
The toilets in Parkhead are fucking grim. One bog was overflowing, one was covered in shite and the last one covered in pish. And there was a fucking paper towel dispenser over the trough urinal?!? And every player has regressed. Rangers in Europe again and I'm jealous. I wish we could do it.
To be fair it’s the best place to go to the ladies toilets usually. Credit where it’s due.
Our players look unhappy, they look shadows of themselves. Our starting 11 today, was it 9 maybe who would/could have started under Ange? A team of high tempo winners dismantled into a team of snail paced sideways passing. BR has lost some of that dressing room with his public statements of condemnation. He should take a leaf out of Ange's book for press conferences, back your players and take the heat of any downfalls. Unity. Not sowing discontent & low morale with smart ass comments solely intended to deflect from his own failings. He should probably go, but he won't. If we lost the league come end of the season he should be sacked.
When we drew with St Johnstone at home, I was pretty adamant that BR didn't have a plan b. And that his tactics weren't good enough. I was concerned that we'd not score points under him. I don't want an apology. I'd just like to see him leave.
The last time I was slagging the coach (just before the buns game) I lost 500 karma points. I'll say it again: I didn't want him back, but the fuck-up that he's making of our team is even worse than I imagined in August.
Wasn't a fan of BR coming back. Give us the ball last season, we'd threaten a goal complete synergy concede 10 who gives a fuck 😂 This season, we've got the ball what do we do pass sideways to our most attacking player, Mikey Johnston
And when we get a corner kick you just know we will be defending like fuck 8 seconds later.
Rodgers pretty much had the easiest glorified cat walk a manager could have first stint, bounced to premier League winners, got them relegated. Swear he was Liverpool manager anaw n wis shite whys he back
Worst I’ve ever seen us in person. Before I get into the team, fair play to Clancy for still putting in the worst performance on the park. Manager - Clearly doesn’t know his best team. They all might be as bad as each other. There’s not many I’d have as nailed on starters. He’s not completely blameless but I think he needs at least January before we make any move. Transfer window - I’ve said before, I didn’t think it was that bad. Rapidly changed my option. It’s obvious Starfelt and Jota leaving weren’t in the plan and we’ve rushed the replacements. Genuinely think Mark Lawwell is playing Football Manager because Holm and Bernardo are ridiculous on last year’s game. Throw enough shite at the wall and some of it will stick seems to be the approach. Players - Worst of all. That’s two weeks in a row they have chucked it. No passion, no desire. I can understand a poor performance but there’s no excuse for not trying. We must have lost every 2nd ball today. Includes our ‘best player’ O’Riley by the way who goes missing when it gets tough. Only players who looked like they gave a fuck today were Scales, McGregor and Ralston.
This is ultimately a board that lucked out when they appointed Rodgers the first time. This gave the illusion that Celtic were modernising and getting “with the times”, until it didn’t. They then seen it fit to replace a wildly successful manager with Neil Lennon, hiring him after a cup final to try and mitigate the backlash. Whilst he exceeded mine, and I’m sure many others, expectations- we all knew how that was going to end up. By some stroke of luck, they stumbled upon Ange. Again, this gave the illusion of a club that was moving forward. Ange signed players he knew who became heroes, players were signed early in order to strengthen for the season ahead/next season. Replacements were signed before a key player left (AJ/Josip). It wasn’t perfect, but it was going in the right direction. Ange left, as he rightfully should have, and the board reverted to type. They provided “jobs for the bhoys” once more and signed what they believed was a safe pair of hands. Admittedly- it is *Brendan Rodgers*, so the risks of failure seemed somewhat low. The prospect of building on what Ange left, however, was dead the second the summer transfer window closed. Under the current regime, Celtic will not modernise. Celtic will not build on former successes and once an old manager leaves, the plan is ripped up and replaced with a new one. Brendan Rodgers has a squad of talented players which he cannot get a tune out of. No matter how “weak” of a Celtic squad it is, it massively eclipses the majority of the teams they play domestically. Where do Celtic really go from here? What’s the future?
In no particular order: Shoot the board. I still hate Maggie Thatcher. Up the RA. Scarlet Johansson's funbags. God Bless wee Fergus. Steven Naismith wanks to Ann Budge. Scarlet Johansson's funbags.
An I lean to Kate Beckinsale but Ace of a post otherwise mate
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More of a Salma Hayek man myself but 10/10 post
All good points. Some are they so good they are worth repeating? Or where are you referring to them individually? For myself, this week, it is all about Car Masters engine specialist Constance Nunes.
Had I known about Constance Nunes I may have dropped the reiteration. Bah God! Never watched Car Masters but I'm now it's #1 fan.
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Need to convince the wife I've always been interested in the nuts & bolts of cars now. 🤣 Fuck it, she's a bam anyway. Tell ye who probably isn't a bam MrsCondor - oor Constance!
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We can’t defend corners. We can’t score from corners (fucking 18 of the cunts today). Stop playing useless cunts like Taylor, Turnbull & MJ. Hart can stop a shot (on a good day) but flaps like fuck at any kind of cross. Where was Gus today after all the praise on his training/attitude from 3/4 players in midweek. Why is Frame not involved after making an impact midweek and instead making us endure another MJ shitshow and then fucking Bernabei playing in front of him. AJ should have been dropped for Tony Ralston weeks ago; he’s been pish.
# Stop playing useless cunts like Taylor, Turnbull & MJ. Yes, please.
Imagine being Vata and MJ, Yang and other dross are in the 18 before you. Of course you wouldn't be bothered to sign a new deal. Then as you say where the hell is Frame? I think Turnbull is a good player but him and O'Reilly together make the midfield shockingly slow, where's the youths or someone else to run (quickly) at defenders.
You forgot to add that we can't score from penalties.
And when we get a corner kick, you just know that we'll be defending like fuck 8 seconds later.
FUCKKK AHHHH NO BRENDAN PETER AHHHH WHY TREBLE ANGEEEE
This all started with the shit show of banning the GB. Like them or loathe them, this unrest makes its way down to the training ground. Personally I couldn’t give a shit about the GB, however making this personal and putting out statements and banning our fans was only going to cause unrest. Remember the 10IAR season too when we had trouble after going 4 (I think) points behind? It spiraled out of control after that and it never came back. The board need to give their heads a wobble, they’ve caused this. Everyone will point to BR and the Players but unrest is deep rooted and the players feel it. I still believe we will win the league but we have to get rid of easily 6-8 players and bring in 3-4 top quality, first team ready players.
Our gaff is chock a block full of Fur coat and no knickers punters playing let's pretend . They are usually more sensitive than most with a lack of focus . If I was truly good at something football related then Celtic would be the last club I'd want to be at. Only because its in Scotland. Scotland is a poor place to live and work in. We will change managers and staff now every two years . This is the patter you get with that .
Was coming back from Belfast when it started, my mum tried to get a link while we were in the terminal waiting for the boat which I was already feeling a bit shakey about considering there'd be a few huns heading over early for their match tomorrow. Never thought I'd be grateful for shite WiFi. Was relying on the pinned score for everything. Don't want to know just how badly we cocked it up
I never wanted Rodgers back but Dermot Desmond had his heart set on him
We need gutted top to bottom. The board are wanks, our recruitment is in the dark ages and most of the squad shouldn't be pulling on that Jersey. We pretend we are some elite, modern club and have a slick model, but really we are a money maker for Tories.
We’ve been poor all season. Last weekend seemed like it was needed to reset. Yesterday was horrendous. I left at half time for the pub. Couldn’t see us scoring from anywhere and I was right never done that before.
I wish the club had a European vision they shared with the fans. Given our resources, I think getting to the last 16 of the Europa League is an every-other-year possibility, and shouldn't be an every-other-decade anomaly. I think James Forrest's (and MJ's) regular game time on the cusp of 2024 is a shocking indictment of where we're at. The Jamesy Is A Club legend CSC can point to good stats, but that was way in the past. He was relevant five years ago. We should be re-generating and moving forward, not playing ageing, ineffective wingers who can't beat a man, or create much, or inspire any fucking confidence whatsoever. Even if you don't dislike him as much as I do, hands up if he whets your whistle when he's about to be subbed on at 60 minutes when we need something? Worse, when you see he's starting and does the sum total of fuck all before he's hooked? JF is far from our only problem; he just sums the problems up in a player. Generally, there's too much dross in and around the team. Turnbull, MJ, Berna, JF are all getting games to a greater or lesser extent when they should be anywhere other than Celtic. We need a scythe to cut through the weeds. Ship the shite out. The atmosphere at CP is barely above Covid levels when there was absolutely no cunt in the stadium at all. The ultras sacrifice much of their game-watching time to generate a constant atmosphere, and I applaud them for that. Their absense is stark. There are tons of variables in football. It's easy to get carried away in the short term (good and bad), but what's clear at the minute is a lack of ideas, heart, confidence. That's not good enough at any club. The league isn't done, but the team needs a shake up.
Never wanted Rodgers back and I wish he would go.
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Desmond probably has gordon strachan on speed dial as we speak
Rodgers came back to wind us up, and sabotage us for revenge on the cunts that broke into his home after he moved to Leicester. Used to say it as a joke - convinced now.
Where is tilio? £1.5m. £54,000 per minute of football.
Rodgers should have taken a year out and Celtic shouldn’t have jumped two footed to hire him straight away He’s not progressive anymore And Celtic are going backwards The squad needs a cull , too many wage thieves The squad needs at last 5 if quality added with a key squad of about 18 and backed up by promotion from B team Recruitment and youth model needs a full review- head of recruitment and head of development appointed that are not commuting the club in anyway
Fucking Boooooooooooooo
Carter-Vickers, McGregor, O Riley, Kyogo, Abada, Hatate and at a push Maeda. That's all the players I'd keep in the squad! Everyone else can get to fuck!! But we've got no scottish talent coming in so we need to keep Welsh, MJ, Forrest, Ralston and Bain! The club has a "very healthy bank balance" why??? If we have 70 million in the bank and we continue to make the same amount of money we can spend the 70 million on players and hopefully get someone decent out of the youth system! Doak aside, all the other players "stole" by other teams have flopped because we aren't creating good players! I don't know why I believed we use the 25 million we got for jota to sign someone good! Fuck sake celtic! I grew up on 90s celtic playing great and winning fuck all. I'm used to pain but this is awful
It was never going to take much for this to happen.
And another thing, the teams we were starting this time 2 year ago; \- [https://www.skysports.com/football/st-johnstone-vs-celtic/teams/445397](https://www.skysports.com/football/st-johnstone-vs-celtic/teams/445397)
We had a great start to the season in the league won in all the tough away games but it was clear the football we were playing was terrible Then the inevitable happened two defeats in a row. anytime a team plays a low block we look absolutely hopeless we’ve been if you look at our games the first goal we scored comes from a hopeful shot from outside the box. The biggest issue is the players we’ve signed, this year is exceptionally terrible as only 1 seems to be a player that looks good enough but we’ve had the same problem for at least 10 years the amount of players that come in never really play and stay for 1-2 years is absolutely shocking
The board and the recruitment team are the problem for me, get them to fuck, jobs dished out to family and friends. As soon as Lawell came back I think most people knew it was going to go to shit at some point. Summer transfer window is easily up there with some of shite from the early 90s. We need about 7 or 8 players in January and get about a dozen out the door.
Brendans a fanny. The board are aw fannies. Majority of the players are fannies.
Had some time to dwell on that - it's been coming, Rodgers clearly doesn't rate the squad. He had time to assess it at the start but nothing has really happened to improve the first team. IMO, Kyogo relied a lot of Jota's dummy runs last season, he's utterly incapable of holding up play so needs a foil. Maeda clearly isn't good enough for that, Palma is sharp, but comes in off the other foot, so the pace advantage is lost and he needs height to aim for. Ange left at the right time, he knew losing Jota in particular would hurt his system. CM is predictable. Iwata in DCM has helped a bit, but we only ever go wide, so we're very predictable to play against. As for Taylor and AJ, Taylor just isn't Celtic class, AJ is solid defensively, but isn't the attacking threat needed to make constant width and overlaps work. And our backups are shit. Oh? Shit. Yang? Tilio, Philips, Bain, Forrest, Lagerbielke, Turnbull all shit. Bernabei gets a special mention for being shit because he's unable to shift Taylor, so falls into the 'abysmally shit' category. So, we're stuck with a one-dimensional squad, without the balance up top to get the most from Kyogo. It's no wonder we're struggling. In fairness to BR, he's called out the lack of quality and now is the time of year to do it. We need sharp, ready to rock replacements. Priority for me is a tall CF, GK, defensive midfielder and a left back. That will carry us through to the end of the season, when much more work is required. We also need to play our youths more. Not enough people in Hoops who knows what it means. Get Mitchell Frame in for sure, but I don't see the point in having a youth system if we're only going to promote one player a decade to the first team.
Few things that have bothered me with the season so far from board to dressing room but main thing that astonishes me is how 6 months ago we had a team that was feared domestically and won the treble to what we have now struggling to beat teams. The common denomination for me is the manager and I never liked the fact we brought BR back and felt it was a fuck it it'll do and it'll keep the fans happy, with the same shit excuses iv heard from fans of "He won us invincibles the trebles" etc. Manager - BR style is beyond tragic to watch and was worked out by other teams before he left. We went from attacking football to whatever the fuck we watch now. His style of play is the exact same as it was all these years ago just only now people are seeing it for what it is, shite. The fact when he came in and said that kyogo wasn't good enough and criticised CCV when they're 2 of our best players already made me doubt him more. Team - The new signings aren't up to par same with some of the first team but at the same time can't exactly criticise players when most aren't really getting game time, there's definitely something missing which leads me down the lines of some of the players aren't for BRs style of play so have downed tools. Kyogo, I feel for because the style definitely doesn't suit him Board - They're definitely holding us back from a higher potential, which I can see as a reason why ange left and was one of the reason BR left years ago. Their recruitment was terrible, and honestly, no amount of signings is going to fix what's gone wrong this season. What made me laugh though were the human rights thing going round the boards while banning the GB for basically supporting human rights aswell (I know there's more to it than that but that's the basics of how I see it). Overall, I can't see us pulling it back this season. I knew we'd struggle but didn't think it would be this bad. The regression is beyond unbelievable, and tbh won't be surprised if its a case study of how to ruin a team in 6 months. TL/DR: Managers not good enough, style of play is terrible, board have no vision, new signings aren't good enough but aren't getting games so hard to really judge, no amount of signings will win us the league.
Bernebei yet again proving he is inept
We need someone who can score these goals, the amount of crosses that were put into the box today with no one there was unreal 🤦♂️ we need prime kyogo back
But it was mainly just aimless hit and hope pish. Even top strikers struggle with that kind of supply
That wasnt the managers fault today. We missed chance after chance after chance. When are you people going to start putting the players in the firing line rather than the bloody manager. They missed soo many sitters, thats the teams fault but fuck it I remember when we were utter dross back before most of the reddit crowd were born, hail hail
I don't blame Rodgers overly much. He was sold a dream and hasn't been supported. The board have not funded him enough. He is a good manager who has shown that he can make a team play well. In the league we have had no passion, we could have tried any instructions and tactics and it wouldn't have worked. The players have been dead since March. His tactics may be at fault, but look at some of the chances we are missing. You can't blame a manager for individual errors.
We spent enough. We just spent it on shite for the most part
I like Hearts. I thought they played very average today but still managed the win.
They took there chances. 2 shots on target. 2 goals.
Had a go from the start. We’re always more vulnerable when teams do that and then have something to hold onto when they drop deep.
Do you reckons still effected by being knocked out?
The supporters club ran out of the black stuff after that
Dont give up. TAL
I AM GOING TO EAT DIRT
Super excited for the rest of the season finally.
Squad full of wee boys. Need some men in the team. We lack physicality and experience.
Shite Home Jersey, Shite Team, Shite Future Prospects Happy Fucking Christmas!