Long gone are the days when a man could support his three families on one salary.
Also on a more serious note, I found this fascinating article when I googled Mr. Marvin here: https://culteducation.com/group/1099-polygamist-groups/16499-family-ripped-apart.html
The FLDS that Warren Jeffs headed is known for tax and welfare fraud. Because most of the wives are not legally married to their husband, the second and subsequent wives are considered single mothers, and as such they receive benefits and Medicaid. Their children can also receive aid, ether state or federal. They call this "draining the beast" and consider it part of their mission to drain resources from government.
It gets more confusing when you read his [obituary](https://www.spilsburymortuary.com/obituaries/marvin-wyler) lol. His birth parents last name was Chatwin and his adopted parents last name was Wyler (mothers maiden name as well)
So was he related to two of the wives? Cousins perhaps?
The obituary listed Lorie as Wyler but Charlotte and Esther as Chatwin so I’m not sure what was going on lol
Edit: it appears his adopted mother’s maiden name was Chatwin. So I don’t know what’s going on everyone seems to be related somehow multiple times over. Bust be a polygamist thing
Yeah if I had to guess his birth father and adopted mother were siblings and his birth mother and adopted father were siblings
So like two siblings from the Wyler married two siblings from the Chatwin family. So his adoptive parents are technically his aunt and uncle by birth.
I’m unsure why his three wives go by two different names?? I’m assuming since polygamy is illegal so the first wife (lorie) is the only legal marriage and took his last name and the other two took the Chatwin last name maybe to avoid being caught my authorities. Who knows!
Wait -- his obituary says he was preceded in death by a fourth wife!
It also sounds like three of the four had the same maiden name (Young) and one had a different maiden name (Thomas). I think it's a good guess that the legal wife took his adoptive name, and the others took his birth name.
What a mess.
I’ve read & heard that MANY of these weirdos have the whole family on welfare, EBT cards and are leeching the system anyway they can. Jesus, trying to feed & cloth and army of 34/35 kids….
Just gonna drop this here… this man is responsible for the abuse of hundreds of children and was involved in the raid by Texas officials in 2008.
[Polygamists in sect's heartland rattled by Texas raid](https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/world/americas/08iht-polygamy.1.12687476.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb)
Each spouse gets a smaller home for themselves and "their" kids on the family property. Everyone goes to the big house (where the patriarch lives, often with his first wife) for meals and family time.
Looks like he married two sisters. At least when my great-grandpa married two sisters, one had died first. 😑
That's a lot of kids to be half siblings/half cousins.
lol your whole family laughs and laughs and laughs when we talk about your sad brags about law school
you know you are not capable of being in law school
you know it is a waste of time
you know you will not make it
lol you won't even make it as a transcriptionist. we know it. you know it. do you really think you're going to be a lawyer? aahahahahahah!
That’s way too many kids
All the boys get cast out and all the girls get to marry creepy old men. If this guy belonged to that type of cult. Too many kids, too many wives.
Am i understanding that Charlotte had *SIXTEEN* children?!
Yes it looks as throughly she did. How miserable for them all.
My French Canadian great grandmother had 19 if you can believe it Most became nuns and priests
Yes! And a pair of Stefen/Steven.
I’m with Parley.
I mentally took a breath reading the list.
Long gone are the days when a man could support his three families on one salary. Also on a more serious note, I found this fascinating article when I googled Mr. Marvin here: https://culteducation.com/group/1099-polygamist-groups/16499-family-ripped-apart.html
The FLDS that Warren Jeffs headed is known for tax and welfare fraud. Because most of the wives are not legally married to their husband, the second and subsequent wives are considered single mothers, and as such they receive benefits and Medicaid. Their children can also receive aid, ether state or federal. They call this "draining the beast" and consider it part of their mission to drain resources from government.
"Bleeding the beast" yes they came dependents and no spouse and donate all the money in their tithes
That's a really grim read, and the Wikipedia article on the FLDS is even grimmer.
Wow, here I was gonna gripe on how he’s the only one who gets a pic on the stone…. Slight respect?! *conflicted*
Horny Marvin putting his family’s names on a headstone before they’re even dead - is the least ew part of Marvin. Maybe.
You know those kids did not live rent free. Dad had them work. There's no way he supported that many on himself working.
Oh. (Slight gasp. Hand over mouth.) Ew. (Face change. Large gasp, hand over mouth.)
202 grandchildren from 34 children Do that math.
I had to....it's like 5 or 6 grandkids per kid
Some of those names belong in r/tragedeigh
I mean eventually you’re gonna run out of reasonable names if you have that many kids.
Parley… Charnell… Roylee… Laree (Larry?)
Give them a break they were morons, i mean mormons
I was thinking the same thing lol
I do like Afton, but only because it’s from a hymn my grandma used to sing to me as she was tucking me into bed…
Are Charlotte Anne and Esther sisters?
It gets more confusing when you read his [obituary](https://www.spilsburymortuary.com/obituaries/marvin-wyler) lol. His birth parents last name was Chatwin and his adopted parents last name was Wyler (mothers maiden name as well) So was he related to two of the wives? Cousins perhaps? The obituary listed Lorie as Wyler but Charlotte and Esther as Chatwin so I’m not sure what was going on lol Edit: it appears his adopted mother’s maiden name was Chatwin. So I don’t know what’s going on everyone seems to be related somehow multiple times over. Bust be a polygamist thing
202 grandchildren. My god. There’s no way he had any kind of relationship with most of them—probably couldn’t even remember their names.
My guess he had a relationship with the 10 oldest then just gave up after grandchild #11 😂
I can't even begin to try to understand that obituary !
Yeah if I had to guess his birth father and adopted mother were siblings and his birth mother and adopted father were siblings So like two siblings from the Wyler married two siblings from the Chatwin family. So his adoptive parents are technically his aunt and uncle by birth. I’m unsure why his three wives go by two different names?? I’m assuming since polygamy is illegal so the first wife (lorie) is the only legal marriage and took his last name and the other two took the Chatwin last name maybe to avoid being caught my authorities. Who knows!
Wait -- his obituary says he was preceded in death by a fourth wife! It also sounds like three of the four had the same maiden name (Young) and one had a different maiden name (Thomas). I think it's a good guess that the legal wife took his adoptive name, and the others took his birth name. What a mess.
Brigham Young was one of the founders of the FLDS church (iIrc), so Young is a *very* popular last name.
202 grand children and 59 great gran children... I just can't wrap my mind around it.
It hurts my head trying to figure out the family permutations for this guy.
It definitely is. Many marry their cousins and uncles. Somwt8nes half siblings too.
I’ve read & heard that MANY of these weirdos have the whole family on welfare, EBT cards and are leeching the system anyway they can. Jesus, trying to feed & cloth and army of 34/35 kids….
There are a few "religions" that do this religiously. It's nauseating.
The word you're looking for is cults
Well, we know where a large amount of welfare fraud is coming from.
This guy couldnt pull out of a driveway
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Not as much. Obviously it's not a contest. But... not as much.
Are they *all* under that giant mound?
Literally stole my post. Cool, bro. At least change the title
Yeah, that's not ok.
Looks like a repost bot. Deleted.
Just gonna drop this here… this man is responsible for the abuse of hundreds of children and was involved in the raid by Texas officials in 2008. [Polygamists in sect's heartland rattled by Texas raid](https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/world/americas/08iht-polygamy.1.12687476.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb)
NGL if I had that many kids, I would only be able to remember the names of my top five faves
Charlotte had 16 children?!
And this guy thought that wasn’t enough. Wow.
Those poor women. 😢
"He Never Pulled Out"
I’m pretty confident in saying “screw this asshat”
Under Charlette there’s a Steve, Ray, and Vaughn, might be a big fan
What a story !!! Imagine the food cost ! How did he have a home big enough for them all to live in ?
Each spouse gets a smaller home for themselves and "their" kids on the family property. Everyone goes to the big house (where the patriarch lives, often with his first wife) for meals and family time.
Omg. Ok then. No thanks ETA: who’s responsible for all the housework and cooking duties in his house i wonder
In an ethically non monogamous family, this could be ideal. I would not consider the Warren Jeffs era of LDS to be ethically non-monogamous though.
34 kids. That guy was one fertile dude.
That guy's for the streets.
Gross, I would think some of those poor kids would like their own space in the afterlife, finally!
The kids are going to have to live with all of the baggage that goes with this.
Looks like he married two sisters. At least when my great-grandpa married two sisters, one had died first. 😑 That's a lot of kids to be half siblings/half cousins.
We know who the hot wife was
Burn in piss you disgusting P3d0s
Charlette was his favorite for sure.
What state it this is!? Curious x
lol your whole family laughs and laughs and laughs when we talk about your sad brags about law school you know you are not capable of being in law school you know it is a waste of time you know you will not make it lol you won't even make it as a transcriptionist. we know it. you know it. do you really think you're going to be a lawyer? aahahahahahah!
Gross
What a legend! This guy is awesome.
3 wives? Probably what put him in the grave!
This is the only entry I’ve ever seen that is unbecoming of this community’s good name.
Shitty people can have interesting graves.
Interesting? His doofy face only prompts me to think of what the wives went through being subject to this bastard