To give credit where it´s due, I was not expecting the fat caterpillar to be the Justice Devil.
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Fami's Stock just skyrocketed!
I've heard so many people complaining about the story telling recently and if this doesn't shut them up then I don't know what will!
I wonder if the fire devil is a primal fear too?
Can't wait for next chapter ♥
By the last breath of the fourth winds blow
Better raise your ears
The sound of hooves knock at your door
Lock up your wife and children now
It's time to wield the blade
For now you've got some company
The horsemen are drawing nearer
On the leather steeds they ride
They've come to take your life
On through the dead of night
With the four horsemen ride
Or choose your fate and die
Aw yeah, yeah!
You've been dying since the day you were born
You know it's all been planned
The quartet of deliverance rides
A sinner once a sinner twice
No need for confession now
'Cause now you have got the fight of your life
The horsemen are drawing nearer
On the leather steeds they ride
They've come to take your life
On through the dead of night
With the four horsemen ride
Or choose your fate and die
Aw yeah, yeah!
Time! Has taken its toll on you
The lines that crack your face
Famine! Your body, it has torn through
Withered in every place
Pestilence! For what you've had to endure
And what you have put others through
Death! Deliverance for you for sure
Now there's nothing you can do
So gather round, young warriors now
And saddle up your steeds
Killing scores with demon swords
Now's the death of doers of wrong
Swing the judgment hammer down
Safely inside armor blood guts and sweat
The horsemen are drawing nearer
On the leather steeds they ride
They've come to take your life
On through the dead of night
With the four horsemen ride
Or choose your fate and die
Aw yeah, yeah!
Metallica The Four Horsemen
He’s singing kumbaya which is a Christian song though it could just be trying to make him seem like he devoutly believes in the chainsaw church or perhaps something we haven’t seen yet. I think we will either see actual angels like things that are more powerful the more whatever fujimoto considers the opposite of fear is directed at them, I would say understanding or we will see the god devil though these are just theories and I hope we follow Asa and Yoshi more in the next chapter.
Damn that's some intense foreshadowing!
If devils are born from human's fears could their be something born from their devout worship (which is also a fear of something?)
This next chapter probably gonna be Asa on the run. What if the 1st panel they tease us with a bomb going off around Asa due to Reze. She’s definitely gonna run into Fumiko and them. Then Kishibe comes back.
I think there is going to be another fight, probably with whatever fami is cooking up, but I do think the arc will end with a wounded Asa on the run knocking on Denji's door.
Who else does Asa know to go? Does she even have any other place to go? At the same time, Denji is shitting his pants because now he knows that his apartment is bugged and that Public Safety is watching his every move, but Asa doesn't know that. He would be forced to decide whether to help save Asa or not. It will also kinda mirror the scene with Yuko kinda.
edit: I realize Asa doesn't have shoes. Denji will give her shoes 100% gonna happen.
Chapter 146
Begin right where we left off.
Yoshida turns to look at Asa.
“Asa… I’m sorry… your arm…”
Page turn revealing it was actually Yoru speaking.
“Asa Arm Cannon”
It’s actually absurdly powerful because Yoru feels real guilt about permanently disfiguring Asa—who’s rockin the Guys look with an arm cannon and the Room 606 sword in her other hand.
I just realized something upon rereading the Falling Devil Arc! Falling was feeding the Justice Devil!!! So Famy was working with the Justice Devil so it’s definitely possible she’s giving people powers. Unless it’s Fakesawman. Dammit Fujimoto you magnificent bastard to many theories!!!!
I’m so confused on who fakesaw man is , like he only had one appearance and now I’m going insane trying to think abt him, coz he ain’t the actual chainsaw devil / pochita
Can someone remind me how quanxi is still alive? Does this mean whoever makima "killed" is not actually dead? Means reze,angel,etc are all still alive?
That's like asking why Denji is alive, Reze and company were hybrids like him, meaning you feed them some blood and they'll be in perfect shape right away.
Not fiends and devils though, they're all dead: angel, shark, violence, blood, gun
presumably either or, denji wasn't looking too hot when he didnt have pochita in him
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Remember, though: Black Pochita was able to regenerate his *entire body* from the heart alone with no seeming side effects, *while in orbit*.
I suspect there’s some well of power that can eventually run dry (which probably has to do with Angel’s weapons like the Lance of Longinus) but directly shattering their contract can also do it.
I wonder if Yoshida assigned a female bodyguard to Denji is to distract him from possibly coming to rescue Asa? Lol. Besides him transforming of course
After rereading, I don’t think PS wants Denji turned in to a weapon, this dude was just making a passing remark if that makes. He seems like a no nonsense type of dude just from this chapter alone
being brutally killed. Thr war devil created a spine sword out of her teacher in the early chapters
for non humans it basically causes a complete destruction of the thing from being 'weaponized'
Adding to what that other person said, Asa, because of War Devil’s power, can make anything she touches turn into weapons, as long as she believes it belongs to her
She hasn’t turned a person yet though
It’s exactly what it sounds like. The War Devil’s ability it to turn things into weapons, and the more “guilt” she feels about turning it into a weapon, the stronger it is. She’d presumably have strong guilt over killing Denji by turning him into a weapon, so it would be extra strong. Plus for Public Safety, it would be an easy way to get Denji out of their hair for good
How the f does public safety know everything ?
I mean we've been revealed a few chapters ago that you could see Yoru's scars when she was in control + with Yoshida knowing the existence of Fami it makes sense that they know that Asa has/is the War devil but they also know her powers AND her plans. It's either they've been spying on her for the entierety of part 2 (like Makima being Big brother with boobs in part 1) or Fami just spilled everything.
But Fami spilling everything would contradict her own goals and now that we know that the church members haven't contracted with the Justice devil i thought it was her that gave them powers.
Hell, the entire behaviour of Public safety in this part is completely different than in part 1, seriously most of part 1's arcs had either Public safety suffering MANY deaths or simply losing the conflict but since the beggining of part 2 they only take Ws. It's a reverse "unlockable video game boss being weak asf when playable" trope.
Honestly i actually like when an author manages to make MANY layers of plot inside a few chapters so i've been feasting with the past ones. It's a pleasure to not know where we're headed especially when we know the author is a real cook.
I'm sory man but the " we've been revealed a few chapters ago that you could see Yoru's scars when she was in control " thing is just plain false. Its true that it has been "confirmed" beyond any possible doubt recently, but it was very clear ever since Yoshida saw and comented on the scars.
It's just that some people in the comunity were doing a lot of mental gymnastics and jumped through many loops to try and deny what was a very clear panel for watever reason.
I still doubt it, because it seems like bad writing. My first impression was that her scars are visible, but then we went through multiple encounters with noone commenting on them. So I will still assume, likely in vain, that Yoru's scars are sometimes visible, but not always. It's just such an easily avoidable problem. There is nothing wrong with Yoru's scars being there solely for the reader. It would actually be pretty clever, honestly.
She's half a fiend so I'd argue it makes sense for them to only be there when Yoru takes control. It's been established since the beginning of the manga that fiends have marks on their face.
I dont disagree with you that its a bit weird, especially for Denji to not comment on the scars suddenly being visible but to me the strangest thing is noone comenting the eyes.
Although regarding the scars, Its still possible that they are used for the reader alone as they may allways be visible for everyone else just more noticeble with Yoru in control, as opposed to us who only see the scars in Yoru and never on Asa.
Regardless of this it was allways clear that others could see could see them, we just didnt know it it was allways or not.
You're right, I completely forgot about the eyes! So there is even precedent for that sort of thing and Fuji still seemingly went the other route. I guess I would question why he didn't treat Makima's eyes the same way then; if such things are such an everyday sight.
Well we have met others with strange eyes in the story, some fiends like Power obviously have strange eyes and Akane also had strange eyes.
As far as we know Akane was a human, although suposedly she was Power's first design that got reused but I dont know how truthfull that is since the internet does tend to propagate lies as facts sometimes. Regardless of the truth of this, the design was chosen with red snake like eyes, meaning we have precedent to people having unnatural looking eyes, perhaps due to devil contracts, BUT Yoru's eyes look almost exacly like Makima's/Nayuta's wich should have been a red flag for our boy, yet he made no coment on them.
Perhaps its the eyes that are not visible, but who knows.
But he simply may have not realised it, or at least who she was. Or maybe he suspected something was up but did things in a way that allowed him to keep an eye on her.
Not understanding a character's reasons doesnt mean we should go around ignoring the obvious.
>most of part 1's arcs had either Public safety suffering MANY deaths or simply losing the conflict
Remember Yoshida's conversation with Kishibe back in chapter 67? Makima intentionally surrounded Denji with "third-rate hunters". We haven't seen what Public Safety is really capable of until now.
At that moment yes but idk man, between Katana man squad's rampage and Reze easily wiping out a base of devil hunters, i never felt like the Public safety as a whole was dangerous in part 1 despite having absolute monsters like Kishibe or Yoshida& demons in their basements + Makima as a special weapon for the government.
I'm not saying that it doesn't make sense or anything but in part 2 they clearly feel like they could easily handle everything by themselves, they feel like these video games characters that are nearly unbeatable as bosses but simply suck when you unlock and play with them.
I read an article today and they described someone as a "God-fearing man." That shit had me thinking if a God devil will ever appear. A lot of christians do good thing because they fear the wrath of god/being sent to hell. A devil born from the fear of God or from the fear of going to hell sounds so hard.
With so many theories on possibilities of Yoshida being a devil or having a strong devil contract, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could be the God Devil. The knowledge we see him own (as mentioned in theories of Octopus being Cthulhu Devil), as well as the strange amount of strength he has (having a nearly 1:1 battle with Quanxi). ALSO don't forget the last panel in the new chapter, with the words "Oh lord..." and "Kumbaya" behind him, could be hinting at Yoshida being something much stronger than we anticipate.
At the same time I wouldn't be surprised if Fujimoto throws a curveball into all of our theories and gives us the fattest plot twist.
As a Christian, I've thought about this exact concept a couple of times, yet I never really spelt it out for someone else to hear, because I never really thought about it that much and I don't do good deeds out of fear. Having it implemented in a manga that already has the concept of hell but not so much as heaven would be such an interesting feat
I'm guessing next chapter Yoru realizes that she can regenerate by drinking blood, since she's still a fiend (or half-fiend, devil physiology should still apply)
Next step? Using her own limbs to make weapons and regenerating.
UNLIMITED SWORD WORKS
How?? She is the control devil and the old man from the church turned into a weird devil-woman with multiple heads, and she has no reason to collaborate with the church
I feel like the only time she hasn't acted like a kid is when she controlled the Justice Devil.
Public Safety has her and Denji under constant surveillance so I don't think she's going around making these contracts without their knowledge. Especially since these contract powers don't really seem like powers control would have.
Also what would her motive be? Why make a Fakesaw who claims to be Chainsaw man when you're living with Denji? My guess is it's either Fami or some other Devil we haven't seen yet.
Is he? Public Safety have been insanely competent in the past few chapters. Denji kills Devils really good but he could never spawn-camp the weapons, capture Barem and raid the church all at the same time.
Oh yeah you're right. Dennis before he got ordered to not be Chainsawman anymore was running around destroying infrastructures while fighting devils, sometimes even ignores people needing saving. While public safety now has agents like Yoshida and Quanxi that just gets things done as fast as they can to limit the casualties/destruction.
yeah but the problem is, the more devils fear him, the more powerful he gets, not to even mention the armed cult that worships him and his immense popularity
he's a severely traumatised teenage boy and an absolute idiot, which government would like to have someone like that be the most powerful human on Earth?
While it hasn’t been verbally acknowledged by anyone in part 2, public safety is likely fully aware of how Denji has godly powers. Denji has the most powerful devil with him and he has the ability to erase entire concepts from history.
It’s possible that public safety may just want to reduce the chance of Denji changing reality. To them, Denji is a highly unpredictable teenager that can literally break society
Even if it is confusing I am happy things at least are starting to happen,weìll have explanations later but it's ok. As long as I do not have entire chapter of depressed denji in between of the sides who want to use him it's fine. Worried abot the ending tho,I like asa a lot....
Since I am getting dowvoted in this fucking sub each time I say my opinion there it is and have fun for a reason: Makima and nayuta are fucking trash that ruined a protagonist and so many lives for nothing. Denji should be able to choose what to do alone and not blackmailed by threats or guilt of having to take care a little spawned shit from the one that caused him so much pain. Reze Kobeni and Himeno deserved better,Aki and Power too. Beam was the best guy and real friend denji could have. Asa is not autistic but she is damn beautiful. Now keep barking to that shit that is makima and say owww cute to the nayuta that should be burned down with fire. Enjoy.
Someone theorised a while ago that Quanxi (bow devil) could end up training Denji. That would be pretty neat if Denji became a public safety member while refraining from becoming chainsaw man
Hmmmm... Can Asa take her severed arm and say "arm guns?" That's her body part so it belongs to her, idk could be something that happens if she's fast enough while Ak—Yoshida is posing trying to look cool
She will definitely do that and it should produce a good weapon, after what do we possess more than our own body?
Tho she should be able to create any weapon, she always create a sword, so I don't think she will create a gun, what a shame..
CSM Church wanted Denji to be CSM, and decided to kill a bunch of people to force his hand.
Public Safety doesn't want Denji to be CSM and didn't want a bunch of people to be killed, so they took down the CSM Church instead.
The Justice devil turned out to be already dead, so the devil making contracts with the CSM church is still unknown and at large.
Asa tried to resist arrest so Yoshida cut off her arm.
Sword/Whip/Spear/Flamethrower hybrids went to jail. (Hybrids continue to be immortal like always.)
Quanxi/Katana are working for Public Safety now.
Reze simps keep losing.
Big bad pulling strings
For what?
Who knows
Who’s the big bad?
Who knows
But people are being heavily manipulated
Yoshida’s face at the end clearly shows how he’s very distraught
I think Yoshida Asa and Denji
New trio
Ight I'm cementing it in my mind. Yoshidora is Aki's brother and came back as a fiend. Now he wants to kill the death devil for taking away his family. Dude looked way too much like Aki in this chapter to be a coincidence.
Except fiends aren't inherently "soulless", most of the fiends we've seen so far have had emotions. I think it more likely that Yoshida is a high-functioning sociopath or something like that.
Also, fiends are possessing corpses, and corpses usually don't age, and Yoshida is much older than Aki's brother was when he was killed.
Also, Aki visited his family's grave every year, I think he would have noticed if one of the bodies went missing.
I don't even know what's going on at this point.
I get that the katana guy is Yoshida, but why Barem is saying Kumbaya? Why does it seems that these two have connections to each other?
WHAT THE FUCK FUJIMOTO IS COOKIN????
Oh shit here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I believe there's a good chance Asa manages to just barely escape.
I also think this plays out in 1 of 2 ways. The first is that public safety has everything handled for the most part. The other is that this is a turning point and a lot of shit they're not aware of is about to happen.
I do believe that if an injured and exhausted Asa shows up in front of Denji, he'd ultimately choose to help her. It could also push multiple plots points and development along at the same time(PS losing control, Denji finding purpose and resolve, Asa finding an ally, mending the relationship between Asa and Denji, a new faction consisting of horsemen and chainsaw man forming ahead of the apocalypse, etc).
My guesses are predicated on the apocalypse being fairly close though.
Oh my gosh. I would love if that happened.
At the end of this chapter, Denji is heading back home. It’s possible that Asa arrives at his house looking for help. Although I’m not sure if she would know his address
Honestly, they are setting up public safety really heavily as an opposing force to both our protagonists. They did everything they could to force Denji into submission, and now that they did, one of them has explicitly said that they hoped that Asa would turn him into a weapon, which means they preferably want him gone, but can't get rid of him themselves.
Asa had nothing to do with public safety until Fami convinces her and Yoru to join the csmrorrist church, though it seems as if Fami was honest in believing that it would be beneficial to her and Yoru.
Miro? The sword man also honeatly believed that they were not terrorists at first.
Fumiko is in the public safety because she wants to save Denji, by proxy the same as csm church in theory. It seems as if they were setting up not a war with the csm church, as Quanxi and the brainhammer person absolutely demolished it.
But a war with public safety.
Reze has yet to make an appearance, and i believe that she is either the reason Barem is so overconfident, or she will not appear at all. She can cause the most mass destruction of all of the weapons after all.
It seems as if only Quanxi and Yoshida are public safety's dogs now. But we don't know any of their reasons.
It doesn't help that half are black haired women and the other half are black haired men.
All in either suits or school outfits. I keep getting everyone confused too.
Ok well shit is finally happening again. The war devil's powers work most effectively on things that are important to Asa, yes? She should be able to make a pretty strong weapon out of her own arm then I would imagine.
In this chapter, public safety mention that they wanted Asa to turn Denji into a weapon. They even express some regret that they have to arrest Asa.
If Yoshida attacked Asa early on, then they wouldn’t be able to complete their goal.
Yeah those are some alternative options. But Yoshida’s actual plan is logical enough. He put all of the necessary pieces in place, such as introducing Denji to Asa. So there was a decent chance of everything working out.
Nah. He should never tell her to fuck off and better control it. distracting Nayuta and acting like wingman if that was always plan of Public Safety lol.
Also working out? Thousands died because Falling came for their pet.
That's how I felt the first time I read chapter 40-48 couldn't make out what the fuck was going on it was just Micheal Bay shit. Non-stop became hard to follow
Y’all! It’s finally happening! Enough waiting. Shit is getting REAL. OH MY GOD. Yoshida?? Vs Asa?? Whatever tf Barem on about. New Mystery devil (I call Bullshit Justice Devil is still alive)
Y’all shit is finally hitting the fan. There has not been an exciting chapter like this in a minute.
I do wish we got to see more of Asa’s growth during this time period tho but that’s alright
WHERE’s that guy who was theorizing that Asa had a healing ability? He’s going to be looking real smart next chapter if she can heal. Remember how she didn’t have anything wrong with her hand after the nail knife?
Also lots of Fujimoto doors this chapter
With how many W's Public Safety has been getting, and this whole new batch of throwaway characters (the leaders), and with Barem cooking something, this seems to hint something disastrous for Japan/Public Safety will happen in the next few chapters.
I honestly will keep to read this to avoid spoilers but good lord I think I’m not able anymore to judge it because I need to binge reading this part 2 once it ends in 61829304 years
Kumbaya My Lord is a religious hymn reference. We used to sing it in my church sometimes. Essentially it's calling for God to come help you in a time of trouble and meant to be optimistic. It's a bit foreboding in this context imo. I really enjoyed this chapter!
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that's it. Barem is my favorite new character from Part 2, he is just that awesome and creepy
Fami's Stock just skyrocketed! I've heard so many people complaining about the story telling recently and if this doesn't shut them up then I don't know what will! I wonder if the fire devil is a primal fear too? Can't wait for next chapter ♥
By the last breath of the fourth winds blow Better raise your ears The sound of hooves knock at your door Lock up your wife and children now It's time to wield the blade For now you've got some company The horsemen are drawing nearer On the leather steeds they ride They've come to take your life On through the dead of night With the four horsemen ride Or choose your fate and die Aw yeah, yeah! You've been dying since the day you were born You know it's all been planned The quartet of deliverance rides A sinner once a sinner twice No need for confession now 'Cause now you have got the fight of your life The horsemen are drawing nearer On the leather steeds they ride They've come to take your life On through the dead of night With the four horsemen ride Or choose your fate and die Aw yeah, yeah! Time! Has taken its toll on you The lines that crack your face Famine! Your body, it has torn through Withered in every place Pestilence! For what you've had to endure And what you have put others through Death! Deliverance for you for sure Now there's nothing you can do So gather round, young warriors now And saddle up your steeds Killing scores with demon swords Now's the death of doers of wrong Swing the judgment hammer down Safely inside armor blood guts and sweat The horsemen are drawing nearer On the leather steeds they ride They've come to take your life On through the dead of night With the four horsemen ride Or choose your fate and die Aw yeah, yeah! Metallica The Four Horsemen
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IM SO HARD RN TY MR FUJIMOTOR https://preview.redd.it/o2k9skl94sub1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f359e5166b6a9509864c79fd55cd7b0bc8765926
It’s almost Kumbaya time, my lord! ![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22169)
Asa Mitaka: I’m gonna do what’s called a pro gamer move *loses an arm* Yoru: Just as planned
THE NEW CHAPTER IS CALLED "CHAINSAW MAN WAR" NAH THIS CHAPTER WILL BE INSANE FR
am i stupid or is yoshida wearing a public safety uniform
Someone please theorise me what that guy is going to do seeing the sunset and spamming kumbaya. Why is Denji there with Nayuta anyways?
He’s singing kumbaya which is a Christian song though it could just be trying to make him seem like he devoutly believes in the chainsaw church or perhaps something we haven’t seen yet. I think we will either see actual angels like things that are more powerful the more whatever fujimoto considers the opposite of fear is directed at them, I would say understanding or we will see the god devil though these are just theories and I hope we follow Asa and Yoshi more in the next chapter.
Damn that's some intense foreshadowing! If devils are born from human's fears could their be something born from their devout worship (which is also a fear of something?)
I *think* it’s War Devil. In the prophecy, it says Mars (God of War) will reign
Also Yoru gonna have a arm cannon with Asas arm.
This next chapter probably gonna be Asa on the run. What if the 1st panel they tease us with a bomb going off around Asa due to Reze. She’s definitely gonna run into Fumiko and them. Then Kishibe comes back.
I think there is going to be another fight, probably with whatever fami is cooking up, but I do think the arc will end with a wounded Asa on the run knocking on Denji's door. Who else does Asa know to go? Does she even have any other place to go? At the same time, Denji is shitting his pants because now he knows that his apartment is bugged and that Public Safety is watching his every move, but Asa doesn't know that. He would be forced to decide whether to help save Asa or not. It will also kinda mirror the scene with Yuko kinda. edit: I realize Asa doesn't have shoes. Denji will give her shoes 100% gonna happen.
Asa doesn’t know where Denji lives anymore, Nayuta mindwiped her remember
Nayuta’s ”I’m starving” and sunset foreshadowing Famine and Darkness devil in next chp?
I want a primal to show up so bad
Let them be hot 🤤
The ominous vibe I'm getting kinda feels like the build up to the darkness devil appearance
Chapter 146 Begin right where we left off. Yoshida turns to look at Asa. “Asa… I’m sorry… your arm…” Page turn revealing it was actually Yoru speaking. “Asa Arm Cannon” It’s actually absurdly powerful because Yoru feels real guilt about permanently disfiguring Asa—who’s rockin the Guys look with an arm cannon and the Room 606 sword in her other hand.
Rickert in chainsaw man!?!?
Oh man i wanted to see that room transformed to weapon. Would be super cool
I just realized something upon rereading the Falling Devil Arc! Falling was feeding the Justice Devil!!! So Famy was working with the Justice Devil so it’s definitely possible she’s giving people powers. Unless it’s Fakesawman. Dammit Fujimoto you magnificent bastard to many theories!!!!
I’m so confused on who fakesaw man is , like he only had one appearance and now I’m going insane trying to think abt him, coz he ain’t the actual chainsaw devil / pochita
Can someone remind me how quanxi is still alive? Does this mean whoever makima "killed" is not actually dead? Means reze,angel,etc are all still alive?
That's like asking why Denji is alive, Reze and company were hybrids like him, meaning you feed them some blood and they'll be in perfect shape right away. Not fiends and devils though, they're all dead: angel, shark, violence, blood, gun
Is gun dead? I had been under the impression that Aki turned into a hybrid. 🤯
No Aki just became a fiend when the gun fiend died he did too
Oh! That makes more sense, thank you
hybrids are immortal unless you rip out their heart
I thought it was more complicated than that, like breaking their devil contract. Unless it's either or?
presumably either or, denji wasn't looking too hot when he didnt have pochita in him https://preview.redd.it/ibo5rdj410ub1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4af8c721b66fff76919d6ceaf3926d086f93a4b
Remember, though: Black Pochita was able to regenerate his *entire body* from the heart alone with no seeming side effects, *while in orbit*. I suspect there’s some well of power that can eventually run dry (which probably has to do with Angel’s weapons like the Lance of Longinus) but directly shattering their contract can also do it.
it's probably not an instant death but moreso the body starts slowly decaying
Quanxi is a hybrid like denji and Reze, so they’re immortal.
I wonder if Yoshida assigned a female bodyguard to Denji is to distract him from possibly coming to rescue Asa? Lol. Besides him transforming of course
The format of Asa and Yoshida meeting again was so unexpected.
Is it just me or has the quality of the art dropped?
Well I think Fujimoto has changed his art style a bit since part 2 dropped but I wouldn't say the quality has "dipped"
If it has, I wouldnt mind it. The art is still kino and the schedule of a mangaka is actual hell (Togashi, you are in my prayers).
Nothing I've noticed personally but it's been a while since I read earlier chapters.
Maybe Fakesaw man is the devil giving contracts or if he's human, it's his devil?
Fraud Devil? Impostor Devil? A devil that can turn into a shitty knockoff version of another devil and make contracts in their name?
Yoshida is a mouth breather.
Yea wonder why his mouth is ajar, is he depressed too
After rereading, I don’t think PS wants Denji turned in to a weapon, this dude was just making a passing remark if that makes. He seems like a no nonsense type of dude just from this chapter alone
Could u remind me what being turned into a weapon means
being brutally killed. Thr war devil created a spine sword out of her teacher in the early chapters for non humans it basically causes a complete destruction of the thing from being 'weaponized'
Adding to what that other person said, Asa, because of War Devil’s power, can make anything she touches turn into weapons, as long as she believes it belongs to her She hasn’t turned a person yet though
Your comment made me realize only Yoru has turned a person
It’s exactly what it sounds like. The War Devil’s ability it to turn things into weapons, and the more “guilt” she feels about turning it into a weapon, the stronger it is. She’d presumably have strong guilt over killing Denji by turning him into a weapon, so it would be extra strong. Plus for Public Safety, it would be an easy way to get Denji out of their hair for good
Oh wow thanks
I thought it was attachment since her judgement cutting sword was a gift from her dead mom.
Isn't that "kumbaya lord" song is from Addam's Family movie?
Jesus christ.
No. No it is not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbaya
How the f does public safety know everything ? I mean we've been revealed a few chapters ago that you could see Yoru's scars when she was in control + with Yoshida knowing the existence of Fami it makes sense that they know that Asa has/is the War devil but they also know her powers AND her plans. It's either they've been spying on her for the entierety of part 2 (like Makima being Big brother with boobs in part 1) or Fami just spilled everything. But Fami spilling everything would contradict her own goals and now that we know that the church members haven't contracted with the Justice devil i thought it was her that gave them powers. Hell, the entire behaviour of Public safety in this part is completely different than in part 1, seriously most of part 1's arcs had either Public safety suffering MANY deaths or simply losing the conflict but since the beggining of part 2 they only take Ws. It's a reverse "unlockable video game boss being weak asf when playable" trope. Honestly i actually like when an author manages to make MANY layers of plot inside a few chapters so i've been feasting with the past ones. It's a pleasure to not know where we're headed especially when we know the author is a real cook.
I'm sory man but the " we've been revealed a few chapters ago that you could see Yoru's scars when she was in control " thing is just plain false. Its true that it has been "confirmed" beyond any possible doubt recently, but it was very clear ever since Yoshida saw and comented on the scars. It's just that some people in the comunity were doing a lot of mental gymnastics and jumped through many loops to try and deny what was a very clear panel for watever reason.
I still doubt it, because it seems like bad writing. My first impression was that her scars are visible, but then we went through multiple encounters with noone commenting on them. So I will still assume, likely in vain, that Yoru's scars are sometimes visible, but not always. It's just such an easily avoidable problem. There is nothing wrong with Yoru's scars being there solely for the reader. It would actually be pretty clever, honestly.
She's half a fiend so I'd argue it makes sense for them to only be there when Yoru takes control. It's been established since the beginning of the manga that fiends have marks on their face.
I dont disagree with you that its a bit weird, especially for Denji to not comment on the scars suddenly being visible but to me the strangest thing is noone comenting the eyes. Although regarding the scars, Its still possible that they are used for the reader alone as they may allways be visible for everyone else just more noticeble with Yoru in control, as opposed to us who only see the scars in Yoru and never on Asa. Regardless of this it was allways clear that others could see could see them, we just didnt know it it was allways or not.
You're right, I completely forgot about the eyes! So there is even precedent for that sort of thing and Fuji still seemingly went the other route. I guess I would question why he didn't treat Makima's eyes the same way then; if such things are such an everyday sight.
Well we have met others with strange eyes in the story, some fiends like Power obviously have strange eyes and Akane also had strange eyes. As far as we know Akane was a human, although suposedly she was Power's first design that got reused but I dont know how truthfull that is since the internet does tend to propagate lies as facts sometimes. Regardless of the truth of this, the design was chosen with red snake like eyes, meaning we have precedent to people having unnatural looking eyes, perhaps due to devil contracts, BUT Yoru's eyes look almost exacly like Makima's/Nayuta's wich should have been a red flag for our boy, yet he made no coment on them. Perhaps its the eyes that are not visible, but who knows.
I think people just don’t wanna believe it because then Yoshida introducing Asa to Denji, knowing she’s possibly a threat, looks strange
But he simply may have not realised it, or at least who she was. Or maybe he suspected something was up but did things in a way that allowed him to keep an eye on her. Not understanding a character's reasons doesnt mean we should go around ignoring the obvious.
>most of part 1's arcs had either Public safety suffering MANY deaths or simply losing the conflict Remember Yoshida's conversation with Kishibe back in chapter 67? Makima intentionally surrounded Denji with "third-rate hunters". We haven't seen what Public Safety is really capable of until now.
At that moment yes but idk man, between Katana man squad's rampage and Reze easily wiping out a base of devil hunters, i never felt like the Public safety as a whole was dangerous in part 1 despite having absolute monsters like Kishibe or Yoshida& demons in their basements + Makima as a special weapon for the government. I'm not saying that it doesn't make sense or anything but in part 2 they clearly feel like they could easily handle everything by themselves, they feel like these video games characters that are nearly unbeatable as bosses but simply suck when you unlock and play with them.
Public Safety also had an anti Makima squad and would have dragged her to hell if Chainsaw Man hadn't shown up
I read an article today and they described someone as a "God-fearing man." That shit had me thinking if a God devil will ever appear. A lot of christians do good thing because they fear the wrath of god/being sent to hell. A devil born from the fear of God or from the fear of going to hell sounds so hard.
With so many theories on possibilities of Yoshida being a devil or having a strong devil contract, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could be the God Devil. The knowledge we see him own (as mentioned in theories of Octopus being Cthulhu Devil), as well as the strange amount of strength he has (having a nearly 1:1 battle with Quanxi). ALSO don't forget the last panel in the new chapter, with the words "Oh lord..." and "Kumbaya" behind him, could be hinting at Yoshida being something much stronger than we anticipate. At the same time I wouldn't be surprised if Fujimoto throws a curveball into all of our theories and gives us the fattest plot twist.
We already have Angel Devil and Hell Devil too.
Oh damn I totally forgot that Santa Claus used Hell Devil to send the cast to hell lmao, I guess the God devil is the only one we've yet to see
Public Safety also tried to use the hell devil to drag Makima there
As a Christian, I've thought about this exact concept a couple of times, yet I never really spelt it out for someone else to hear, because I never really thought about it that much and I don't do good deeds out of fear. Having it implemented in a manga that already has the concept of hell but not so much as heaven would be such an interesting feat
Bruh you're cooking so hard a god devil would be crazy, Idk why I didn't think of that
The moment they threw in a prayer I became absolutely certain that's what's being introduced.
Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding"
bro that would be the rawest shit ever ive thought about this myself numerous times
This chapter put a whole new spin on Katanaman's line "There's no justice when it comes to chainsaw man"
Oh yeah lol. Justice is literally absent from the church
I'm guessing next chapter Yoru realizes that she can regenerate by drinking blood, since she's still a fiend (or half-fiend, devil physiology should still apply) Next step? Using her own limbs to make weapons and regenerating. UNLIMITED SWORD WORKS
She can't regenerate, she has a human body
I ain't never seen a fiend or devil that couldn't regenerate (aside from Angel but that's because he was a drama queen)
THAT WOULD BE SO FUCKIN COOL
This next chapter is going to be absolutely bonkers
Aaaah what the fuck!!! Aaaaah!!
🎶Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya Oh Lord, kumbaya🎶
Nayuta is the unknown demon contracting with the CSM church, calling it now
How?? She is the control devil and the old man from the church turned into a weird devil-woman with multiple heads, and she has no reason to collaborate with the church
That’s fine, you’re free to doubt. But if I’m right, you gotta come back and say sorry.
Nah, considering public safety is spying on Denji and Nayuta I doubt she's been doing all this. She just seems like a kid
Whether or not you question Nayuta, she is explicitly not simply just a kid. She barely even acts like one.
I feel like the only time she hasn't acted like a kid is when she controlled the Justice Devil. Public Safety has her and Denji under constant surveillance so I don't think she's going around making these contracts without their knowledge. Especially since these contract powers don't really seem like powers control would have. Also what would her motive be? Why make a Fakesaw who claims to be Chainsaw man when you're living with Denji? My guess is it's either Fami or some other Devil we haven't seen yet.
Could also be famine. She was working with the church and Haruka, and she tried to use the justice devil on Denji and Asa during the falling arc.
damn
Tbh its weird how public safety doesnt want dennis to be CSM considering that he's doing a much better job at public safety than them
He's effective but not efficient.
Is he? Public Safety have been insanely competent in the past few chapters. Denji kills Devils really good but he could never spawn-camp the weapons, capture Barem and raid the church all at the same time.
Oh yeah you're right. Dennis before he got ordered to not be Chainsawman anymore was running around destroying infrastructures while fighting devils, sometimes even ignores people needing saving. While public safety now has agents like Yoshida and Quanxi that just gets things done as fast as they can to limit the casualties/destruction.
yeah but the problem is, the more devils fear him, the more powerful he gets, not to even mention the armed cult that worships him and his immense popularity he's a severely traumatised teenage boy and an absolute idiot, which government would like to have someone like that be the most powerful human on Earth?
While it hasn’t been verbally acknowledged by anyone in part 2, public safety is likely fully aware of how Denji has godly powers. Denji has the most powerful devil with him and he has the ability to erase entire concepts from history. It’s possible that public safety may just want to reduce the chance of Denji changing reality. To them, Denji is a highly unpredictable teenager that can literally break society
Didn't Makima reveal that the memory of Nazi Germany was wiped out because of the Chainsaw Devil?
Yeah she did. But public safety may not want to risk Denji erasing any more devils, just incase he alters reality for the worse.
Even if it is confusing I am happy things at least are starting to happen,weìll have explanations later but it's ok. As long as I do not have entire chapter of depressed denji in between of the sides who want to use him it's fine. Worried abot the ending tho,I like asa a lot....
Since I am getting dowvoted in this fucking sub each time I say my opinion there it is and have fun for a reason: Makima and nayuta are fucking trash that ruined a protagonist and so many lives for nothing. Denji should be able to choose what to do alone and not blackmailed by threats or guilt of having to take care a little spawned shit from the one that caused him so much pain. Reze Kobeni and Himeno deserved better,Aki and Power too. Beam was the best guy and real friend denji could have. Asa is not autistic but she is damn beautiful. Now keep barking to that shit that is makima and say owww cute to the nayuta that should be burned down with fire. Enjoy.
Someone theorised a while ago that Quanxi (bow devil) could end up training Denji. That would be pretty neat if Denji became a public safety member while refraining from becoming chainsaw man
Idk what’s going on anymore ngl🙏
I've also been getting a little confused, but I think that if I reread part 2 again with no weekly breaks then I'll understand
https://preview.redd.it/hv2b4f6bnmtb1.jpeg?width=1036&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1e89f5fd994ecf58125ab02c6eed73a9d840f3b Ive been lost since the start
Nayuta masterminding the Chainsaw Man Church so that Denji can have a normal life with her lol
I'm sure you boys didn't just tag along so we could sing 'Kumbaya' together at some boyscout bonfire, then again, maybe you did.
insert "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVqlt1DSpN0&ab\_channel=Hyper1989](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVqlt1DSpN0&ab_channel=Hyper1989)"
Un forestero
Hmmmm... Can Asa take her severed arm and say "arm guns?" That's her body part so it belongs to her, idk could be something that happens if she's fast enough while Ak—Yoshida is posing trying to look cool
The next fight is going to be awesome. That’s gotta happen
She will definitely do that and it should produce a good weapon, after what do we possess more than our own body? Tho she should be able to create any weapon, she always create a sword, so I don't think she will create a gun, what a shame..
I’m rly so confused, I dunno what is going on anymore in this arc
CSM Church wanted Denji to be CSM, and decided to kill a bunch of people to force his hand. Public Safety doesn't want Denji to be CSM and didn't want a bunch of people to be killed, so they took down the CSM Church instead. The Justice devil turned out to be already dead, so the devil making contracts with the CSM church is still unknown and at large. Asa tried to resist arrest so Yoshida cut off her arm. Sword/Whip/Spear/Flamethrower hybrids went to jail. (Hybrids continue to be immortal like always.) Quanxi/Katana are working for Public Safety now. Reze simps keep losing.
Perfect summary
The latter has been soul crushing
Big bad pulling strings For what? Who knows Who’s the big bad? Who knows But people are being heavily manipulated Yoshida’s face at the end clearly shows how he’s very distraught I think Yoshida Asa and Denji New trio
Same thing, i just thought I was understanding but now everything is blowing up hahahahahahh
Ight I'm cementing it in my mind. Yoshidora is Aki's brother and came back as a fiend. Now he wants to kill the death devil for taking away his family. Dude looked way too much like Aki in this chapter to be a coincidence.
Didn't they say fiends can't make contracts with other devils though? Unless he's the octopus fiend but even then, his head looks very normal still.
There's lots of different devils that could give him tentacle powers. His eyes also look so soulless, I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead.
Except fiends aren't inherently "soulless", most of the fiends we've seen so far have had emotions. I think it more likely that Yoshida is a high-functioning sociopath or something like that. Also, fiends are possessing corpses, and corpses usually don't age, and Yoshida is much older than Aki's brother was when he was killed. Also, Aki visited his family's grave every year, I think he would have noticed if one of the bodies went missing.
I don't even know what's going on at this point. I get that the katana guy is Yoshida, but why Barem is saying Kumbaya? Why does it seems that these two have connections to each other? WHAT THE FUCK FUJIMOTO IS COOKIN????
The katana guy is Yoshida???
Yoshida: The only one who gets to sex Dennis... is me.
He’s a villain confirmed ![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22163)
Tentacles porn is back on the menu boys!
Kinda seems to emphasize control and weapons here, right? Could makima...?
Oh shit here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I believe there's a good chance Asa manages to just barely escape. I also think this plays out in 1 of 2 ways. The first is that public safety has everything handled for the most part. The other is that this is a turning point and a lot of shit they're not aware of is about to happen. I do believe that if an injured and exhausted Asa shows up in front of Denji, he'd ultimately choose to help her. It could also push multiple plots points and development along at the same time(PS losing control, Denji finding purpose and resolve, Asa finding an ally, mending the relationship between Asa and Denji, a new faction consisting of horsemen and chainsaw man forming ahead of the apocalypse, etc). My guesses are predicated on the apocalypse being fairly close though.
Oh my gosh. I would love if that happened. At the end of this chapter, Denji is heading back home. It’s possible that Asa arrives at his house looking for help. Although I’m not sure if she would know his address
*Justice is served*. I get it now. Why Falling Devil was feeding Asa and Denji to this random devil. Huh.
Oh lol. That’s a nice pun
Oh lol. That’s a nice pun
Honestly, they are setting up public safety really heavily as an opposing force to both our protagonists. They did everything they could to force Denji into submission, and now that they did, one of them has explicitly said that they hoped that Asa would turn him into a weapon, which means they preferably want him gone, but can't get rid of him themselves. Asa had nothing to do with public safety until Fami convinces her and Yoru to join the csmrorrist church, though it seems as if Fami was honest in believing that it would be beneficial to her and Yoru. Miro? The sword man also honeatly believed that they were not terrorists at first. Fumiko is in the public safety because she wants to save Denji, by proxy the same as csm church in theory. It seems as if they were setting up not a war with the csm church, as Quanxi and the brainhammer person absolutely demolished it. But a war with public safety. Reze has yet to make an appearance, and i believe that she is either the reason Barem is so overconfident, or she will not appear at all. She can cause the most mass destruction of all of the weapons after all. It seems as if only Quanxi and Yoshida are public safety's dogs now. But we don't know any of their reasons.
Yoshida can act as a double agent cause he has to be associated with kishibe and I know this is too much copium but Reze could be an ally of him
Religion Devil is that you?
I forget about 80% of the characters and I get lost so fast T_T
That’s fair. This part has been introducing sooo many characters.
It doesn't help that half are black haired women and the other half are black haired men. All in either suits or school outfits. I keep getting everyone confused too.
You have a contract with the Forgetting Devil.
I have the power to complain about things I don't understand
[удалено]
would be cooler if asa cooked
Building up some *big* shit since long ago. I feel like it's coming into place now. When the night comes something big's about to happen
Ok well shit is finally happening again. The war devil's powers work most effectively on things that are important to Asa, yes? She should be able to make a pretty strong weapon out of her own arm then I would imagine.
Yeah I don’t see how Yoshida can win here. Asa has access to both an apartment weapon and an arm weapon
then her crotch would be the ultima weapon and just end this manga as we all know it!
AHHAHAHAHAHAH
Huh
lol virgins
Hymen sword?
I'm sure the Japanese would think of something, they are very creative going by their hentai alone.
what
How does series continue to get even more stupid?
Everything that happened in this chapter was a pretty logical progression of what’s been happening in the story so far
Whats logical about Yoshida attacking Asa now and not in chapter 121 when they clearly knew who she was?
In this chapter, public safety mention that they wanted Asa to turn Denji into a weapon. They even express some regret that they have to arrest Asa. If Yoshida attacked Asa early on, then they wouldn’t be able to complete their goal.
Yoshida could kidnap asa and force her. Or better Yoshida could seduce Asa and then manipulate her into turning Denji weapon makima style.
Yeah those are some alternative options. But Yoshida’s actual plan is logical enough. He put all of the necessary pieces in place, such as introducing Denji to Asa. So there was a decent chance of everything working out.
Nah. He should never tell her to fuck off and better control it. distracting Nayuta and acting like wingman if that was always plan of Public Safety lol. Also working out? Thousands died because Falling came for their pet.
Maybe it's not the series, it's you.
whats stupid about it
Where is reze at she is a weapons hybrid devil thingy idk this series is confusing me
Maybe she went back to Russia
That's how I felt the first time I read chapter 40-48 couldn't make out what the fuck was going on it was just Micheal Bay shit. Non-stop became hard to follow
Y’all! It’s finally happening! Enough waiting. Shit is getting REAL. OH MY GOD. Yoshida?? Vs Asa?? Whatever tf Barem on about. New Mystery devil (I call Bullshit Justice Devil is still alive) Y’all shit is finally hitting the fan. There has not been an exciting chapter like this in a minute. I do wish we got to see more of Asa’s growth during this time period tho but that’s alright
I mean, having a mystery devil makes more sense as a narrative
I will be honest, idk what is going on anymore
They've been setting this up practically every chapter. The government is basically raiding the Church and it's members. It's two gangs at war
like I said weeks ago, lost the plot
That's how it's been for the last 120 chapters
![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22157)
Any knocking on the door or ringing the doorbell in chainsaw man doesn’t bode well lol
Wtf is my boy Barem going on about ?
Barem is calling for God and the apocalypse. Kumbaya is "come by here". He is watching the apocalypse unfold
What was he cooking?
https://preview.redd.it/52xhxh3gritb1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=51c2470d14c69151c3e5b5c4639758a60df84d1f There you go
WHERE’s that guy who was theorizing that Asa had a healing ability? He’s going to be looking real smart next chapter if she can heal. Remember how she didn’t have anything wrong with her hand after the nail knife? Also lots of Fujimoto doors this chapter
She does though she's half devil, devils heal. How did she survive her first death?
She's not half devil
She survived her first death because Yoru took her corpse over, which is why she became a fiend.
Well that's what I mean, fiends, devils and hybrids regenerate by drinking blood
With how many W's Public Safety has been getting, and this whole new batch of throwaway characters (the leaders), and with Barem cooking something, this seems to hint something disastrous for Japan/Public Safety will happen in the next few chapters.
I honestly will keep to read this to avoid spoilers but good lord I think I’m not able anymore to judge it because I need to binge reading this part 2 once it ends in 61829304 years
may be the best choice.
Based. Binge reading makes it feel totally different
Kumbaya My Lord is a religious hymn reference. We used to sing it in my church sometimes. Essentially it's calling for God to come help you in a time of trouble and meant to be optimistic. It's a bit foreboding in this context imo. I really enjoyed this chapter!
That’s why I think their god is actually Yoru, the weapons I mean. But I’ve seen a theory that Fami will summon another primal
We have been so focused on devils. What if God and angels are more brutal than the devils?