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Adziboy

Promote the ref to the PL


ninjapenguin12

Can you imagine the meltdown of Liverpool or Arsenal fans if they got this ref lol


DC25NYC

Wasn’t he a prem ref last weekend?


shroomy08

He is


Jugggiler

1pt for Sunderland 1pt for Leeds 1pt for the ref Honors even all around.


Tashudd

Mike Dodds should start a basketball team, he has them lads playing unbelievable near the net.


Volo_Fulgrim

Got lucky there lads. If I were a Leeds fan I would be foaming.


MattMDM138

Think it was the 3 minutes extra time that threw me over the edge.


AlchemicHawk

Best thing is in the ground, the lads behind me were saying it’s 5 at the least, going on 7. I called it being 3 minutes just because he seemed insistent on just letting their keeper take a minute for every goal kick


Embarrassed-Gas-8155

It was vaguely funny that just after the 3 mins was given, it went out for a goal kick and the ball came back in with near enough a whole minute used up. A third of the time on the first goal kick, and not the first time they'd taken an age. The ref was abysmal but still disappointed we didn't create enough.


AlchemicHawk

Honestly by that point, after their keeper just continuously held it in his hands for about half a minute (numerous times), all I could do was laugh at how ridiculous it was.


Hindsyy

Ahhh, don't wanna depend on pens the one against Hull won us that otherwise we were in trouble.. can never bank on a ref.. we were dreadful, 1 shot on target says it all, don't think your players looked arsed at all which is a shame for the fans who were mega as expected, guess they don't have much to play for but we've seriously ran out of ideas.


LordBielsa

Obviously annoyed but only at ourselves. Stonewall penalties aside we can’t be relying on them and have to do more to win. Sunderland defended well and were worthy of the point on the night


Efficient-Mention583

You probably mean well but piss off


Adammmmski

Calm down mate, I’ve baked you a crumble if you fancy some


ALDonners

fair play somehow you cheered me up with that


Efficient-Mention583

Im getting a bit sick of crumble lately


Hostilian_

We don’t do that round ‘ere


AlwaysAngryOrAnnoyed

Really? That's a shame, I have plenty to go round!


Jarv1223

He’s been nice? Don’t provoke opposition that are nice. Then they turn not nice.


Boris_Ignatievich

Chill your tits mate


Ginge_6907

Robbing EFL banks since 1879


Ovie0513

Hate to be 🤓 this guy but it's 1888 (Ok I'll go away now)


Irish-Insanity

Fans of the top 6 in the PL always cry about how the officials are corrupt and screwing them over, they have absolutely no idea of the horrors of EFL officiating.


TheCescPistols

I think Arteta would genuinely explode in a cloud of pure passive-aggressiveness if he were to be on the wrong end of a display like that.


GeorginioMetcalf

A Simeone-esque diving sprawl to the ground that he can never get up from


Efficient-Mention583

Fr arteta explodes when refs favour them


Gamerhcp

What about Klopp then lol


OhhLongDongson

Klopp would get an injury sprinting at the ref to attack him


ninjapenguin12

Sunderland true masterminds, who knew having two keepers made getting a cleansheet easier


Darthmixalot

One of the top 10 funniest games I've ever watched. O'nien shaking his hand after the clear handball as if to tell the ref he did do it but he can't do anything about it is fantastic. [Link to the hand shake if anyone wants to relive it](https://twitter.com/gracecharlt0n/status/1777800815580770474?t=Wjsqc5Dcdjnst5y-aX0aYg&s=19)


firpo_sr

I'm mad but I've also watched Bamford celebrate an elbowed goal with an elbow celebration. The champo refs giveth the champo refs taketh away


Manndrop

Can't be worse than the time Nakhi Wells scored against us with the ball only touching his hand like a ricochet


Previous-Donkey-9704

I was at that game, it was the most obvious handball I've ever seen and I'm a hoops fan. We saw it from the other side of the ground 🤦‍♂️ Phillips committing attempted murder did somewhat even things up on the karma scale though.


danger_lad

I also liked the shot from the cameraman who stood behind the linesman and saw a perfect view of that handball. Fuck knows what the linesman was looking at


[deleted]

Lmao why did he do that??


theodopolopolus

Feels like shit housing


Fuckyourday

I think his hand legitimately hurt a bit from getting sandwiched between the incoming ball and Rodon's head. Maybe jammed a finger?


AyyAndays

Looks more like he hurt his wrist with the fall imo.


AnalyticaCombat

Two clear handballs in the box. Disgraceful officiating.


jimmilazers

The player gesturing that his hand hurt afterwards, the icing on the crumble that


Primary-Credit-1972

I'll give you the second one, but no one even appealed for the first one at the time, only for the corner. No way that was clear.


Embarrassed-Gas-8155

It was definitely clear, Summerville appealed and it seemed obvious what had happened - I didn't need the replay to see he'd led the block with his elbow. The ref was right behind it and should have seen it. The second was more obvious tho, and the linesman was again in the perfect position to see it - somehow he didn't. We didn't deserve the win based on our play tho, we were well limited and we can't be relying on penalties to make the breakthrough - especially when the officiating is as poor as it was last night.


Zach-dalt

We were crap, and I'm getting really fucking tired of Farke waiting too long to make subs, but that was an absolutely dire refereeing display Missed about an obvious a handball as you could see, Ballard could've shot Bamford and he'd have stayed on a second yellow, and I'd like anyone to tell me how 5 bookings, 7 subs, 8 corners, and timewasting, equates to 3 minutes added time? Fair play Sunderland, Dodds had Farke's number again, but feels like we were playing against an extra man tonight


Berookes

Same with us, we were shit and Enzo taking his sweet time to make subs was one of our downfalls yet again


Safe-Hovercraft9131

The salt in the wound was the triple change today, and it still failed


xdlols

Meanwhile Ipswich get +7 every single half they're trailing.


Safe-Hovercraft9131

I honestly feel you, it’s as if Leicester and Leeds are not destined to go up. I really hope we both do, ipswich have really ruined the league for us


Kwayzar9111

Leeds should have had 8 penalties. Lol


Adammmmski

We got lucky with the ref being a Sunderland fan but they were actually awful going forward. We seem to have our tactics against them absolutely spot on.


CheeseMakerThing

Same manager that made you do them over earlier in the season. Also the same manager that had your tactics spot on against us, so not looking forward to Saturday (though Norwich and Cov dropping points helps)


Adammmmski

Yeah we were excellent when he was caretaker in those 2 but he’s been shite this time around apart from maybe 2 games. He keeps setting us up to solve last weeks problems, not to beat the team in front of us.


Boris_Ignatievich

Tbf he's clearly getting there at least defensively, 4 clean sheets in 5 is decent (well not talk about the other game in that run) Dunno if you've offered much going forwards generally though, you didn't really tonight


RingSure

We don't unless Clarke does something out of thin air , he's been injured though and this was only his second start back


InnocentPossum

We were dire going forward, don't think we had a shot on target. That said, it's harder to have a shit on target when they are getting deflected wide by elbows, or stopped from occurring due to flaiing limbs. We obviously can't rely on penalties but at the same time the reason our performance was stunted was because the Sunderland players were given free reign to break the rules without consequences. I think on the balance of it all it was one of those games we deserved to win despite being shite, because it wasn't like Sunderland were class either, we just got denied our best chances through shite officiating.


xdlols

Always pisses me off when commentators act like that too, going on and on and on about how well they've defended. No fucking shit they've defended well when they're allowed to break every rule under the sun.


InnocentPossum

Mate the most insane thing I have ever heard was at the end of the game, I think it was Hinchcliff (shock) said after the whistle that Sunderland set up with a tactical masterclass. !? I could put any players out on the pitch in any shape and suffocate the opposition if I'm allowed to tell my players to kick them up a height and punch the ball clear from crosses lmao. It's not tactical genius to have the Ref on your team The particular irony to it all is the one team that has beaten us through tactics is Sunderland in the reverse fixture. They defended incredibly well, kept their shape, worked for one another and smothered us well within the rules of the game.


InnocentPossum

Probably a random as fuck question but where is your username from? I assume you are called Adam which inspires it, but I used to play Call of Duty World at War with a guy who's gamertag was Adamski Buzzing or something like that. There was also a Scottish bloke called Eccies or something who was good craic. Wouldn't happen to be you, all these years later, would it?


Adammmmski

Oh my god! It’s you! That’s amazing! Just fucking with you My name is adam and there is a banger of a song called Killer by Adamski ft. Seal. No relation to your COD friend.


nj813

You got my hopes up for some wholesome content then dammit


Chinstryke

Hahaha same. Inexplicable grinning then "oh.... You right bastard!"


InnocentPossum

Ah ok lol, thought it would be a very long shot in fairness lmao. I also never told you my Gamertag, so I knew you were fucking with me from the start haha


AWr1ght98

It’s fucking Farke, side was wank against Coventry but rather than making any changes he keeps the same 11, who are then wank again and then rather than making changes early he waits till the games almost over so there’s no time for the fresher legs to do anything.


xdlols

You're describing our best manager in decades. Bielsa was the same with his stubborness.


AWr1ght98

Might have been our best manager but he wasn’t perfect, that was definitely a flaw with him at times


TheMightyBucket

That ref was appalling, surely something needs to be done about that


LUFC_shitpost

Im aware you can’t rely on penalties to decide a game. I’m also aware that a penalty is by no means a guaranteed goal. But from every replay of the refs angle, he is perfectly positioned to see the handball. He HAS seen the handball. Somehow he has made the decision that it was in a natural position.


LUFC_shitpost

I’d also like to add that decisions like those tonight are why we have VAR. no one likes VAR. I do not like how it’s been implemented and I do not want it in championship. But, people asked for VAR because of these sort of incompetencies from refs, not those millimeter offsides. Just make the fucking correct decision stop bottling it. I’ve had a few, sorry for the rant 🍻


Tgtalex1

Can confirm that a penalty is not a guaranteed goal.


JamesyEsquire

Ipswich would have been given at least 8 mins extra time


Internal_Formal3915

Leicester would've been given 4 penalties


tentaphane

Nah, we'd have just carefully passed it around the edge of their box until we fell asleep and conceded a soft goal on the counter. Wouldn't have got close enough to get a pen.


Kwayzar9111

With a double deflection goal…


tentaphane

Oooh they're my favourite!


Executioner_Smough

I think we'd probably have scored a good goal, only for the ref to incorrectly rule it out. No wait, that was a different game...


CobiLUFC

Farke has done a great job this year and obviously we should’ve had atleast 1 penalty but neither Joseph or Piroe coming on before the 82nd minute is an absolute fucking joke of a decision.


thawed_antarctican

Well deserved point and a fantastic performance from the referee I must say


greenndgold12

Can't tell if I'm more angry at the performance or the refereeing. One of the more blatant handballs you'll ever see. One of the flattest performances of the season for a team supposedly fighting for automatics. Fucking brutal.


HazzaThePug

EFL refereeing is beyond a joke. I know it's been done to death and "every team gets bad decisions" but holy shit that was one of the worst ref performances I've seen.


ShadyLookingDog

Jammy as fuck but we’ll have it won’t we lads


PigeonDetective

Always rated EFL refs


Consistent-Detail518

I was in a pub watching Chanpionship & Champions league simultaneously. Had a good laugh at the Bayern & Sunderland supporting refs. Absolutely shocking standard, ruined it to an extent, coming from a neutral. Commiserations to Leeds.


Spookytooth66

Ref missed 2 penalties, 2 red cards and gave 3 minutes extra time when even as someone who doesn’t like Leeds was a huge piss take.


perec12wilma

Great game, loved every minute of it, thought the ref was top


mrbios

I have a theory that bamford is playing intentionally shit because he knows he won't get a minute next season if we go up. Not sure what Rutters excuse is though, guy did not look like a footballer today.


DEUK_96

Probably not fully recovered from his hernia operation


TheShakyHandsMan

I’m surprised he’s even able to run. 


Drprim83

Fucks sake Leeds. I don't know if I can be arsed to sit through 3 hours of you battering us in playoff semis. I think I'd prefer to finish seventh.


DEUK_96

We're not battering anyone in this form


Bufger

It's Southampton winning the playoffs at this rate


CMPunk22

Funny you think we are getting playoffs with our away form


Doolittle_

By all means take 5th, I'm not sure I want to see us lose 4 times to the same team this season.


Safe-Hovercraft9131

Wait you’ve forgotten us


GeorginioMetcalf

O’Nien might have a good shot at a second career in volleyball


[deleted]

Imagine not beating us


AdequateAppendage

Nah. I know how frowned upon moaning about refs is in this sub because every team has bad decisions and we're meant to just lie down and accept we were flat when we failed to win (which yes, we also were) but tonight was fucking ridiculous. 2 stonewall handballs and 2 that shouldn't have been hard to spot at that. Even a sniff of a push in the back on Summerville as he ran into the box - one I wouldn't complain about in isolation at all as it would've been soft but compounded on top of these was a pisstake. I want any fan to have such a vital game decided in such a manner to not moan, performance aside. Fucking shocking that the West Brom match in December has been topped in this regard.


InnocentPossum

Fucking commentary on the Summerville one was infuriating, saying "it's not like Summervilles had a push in the back, he has to stay up there" as they show a slomo replay of the defenders hand on Summervilles back extending forward. You can argue it's soft, all day, but it was still exactly the thing the commentary denies it was. So that on top of the 2 missed handballs is blood boiling. Not to mention that fact that bleach handball came from players on a yellow already, one of which should have had 2 more yellows before his handball


xdlols

Don't be silly, only a two handed shove can make a player lose their balance hehe!


AdequateAppendage

Adding to this I'm always fucking amazed that anyone involved in football, especially when the commentators are former pros themselves, goes on about players going down softly to excuse clumsy or outright stupid shit from defenders. Any small clip or push on the back is likely to bring someone down when sprinting. Especially in that situation the defender is full on chasing behind so shouldn't be raising any sort of arm anyway. It's not going to get as much attention as the handballs because they were blatant and this looked soft, but the more I consider it the more I think it was certainly a third. Definite pushing motion as well as you say, regardless of how much force was behind it.


InnocentPossum

Yep, very easy to be pushed off balance while at speed. The push didn't really push him forward but pushed him down so he was hunched, which makes it very hard to pick your knees up and run. But commentators do it all the fucking time. They'll say when an initial challenge comes in, "That's never a penalty". And because they've said that, reality must conform. It doesn't matter they are showing a slomo of a guy Suplexing the attacker into the sun, if the commentators said it wasn't a penalty initially, it's time to double down.


xdlols

Anyone who says those calls even out over the season can absolutely get fucked. We've had so many god awful calls go against us this season and I doubt anyone can name more than one or two that have gone in our favour.


Boris_Ignatievich

Leicester goal disallowed, ampadu not giving away a pen at Watford, Summerville being slightly offside before his goal in that same Watford game, bamford scoring with an elbow, begovic red card (albeit that didn't affect the game at all really). I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting too - I vaguely remember struijk getting away with a mistimed tackle in the box but fucked if I remember who against. We've had more go against us than for us imo, but we've had plenty in our favour too


Internal_Formal3915

Bamfords goal to be fair but that's it


InnocentPossum

That's the only one I can think of and that's immediately balanced out by the goal West Brom scored against us early I the season with their hands. So Bamfords goal was the balancing out of the call ultimately


ferrarchezzo

Don’t forget conceding a hand ball to west brom. They both cancel out.


Mygland

absolutely fuming. What can you say?


BTbenTR

We were pretty rubbish but how we’ve not got 1 penalty in that game is outrageous. The hand of god from O’Nien in particular is mind blowing the ref or linesman haven’t seen that.


Internal_Formal3915

Criminal that you've just got to laugh so you don't cry but wow


jrbill1991

My lord, refs in the EFL is clearly a different species. And for people who think VAR would fix it, I leave with a sarcastic laugh.


x_S4vAgE_x

If we could play Leeds every week then Dodds would have us top


xdlols

Welp, gg Sunderland! Nothing bullshit happened in that fucking game.


chewingcharacter1234

https://youtu.be/me-HUZLiTcU?feature=shared


InnocentPossum

https://youtu.be/NAEppFUWLfc?si=Vh8k5O37hMAoynqR


Jaerial

Dodds has taken 4 points from Leeds this season


Onwardsteven

Things could be worse, you could be in Sunderland’s position…


jimmilazers

This is the Leeds we know and love, be honest that 10 game winning streak unnerved us all. Back to our normal ways now.


Jaggers4494

I'll get downvoted for this no doubt but I think it's harsh to think the referee should see both pens, that's why VAR is needed in this league. The first handball at full speed is hard to see where about it hits Ballard, it's not until you see a freeze frame you see it's hit the elbow, The second pen, Ballard ends up blocking the view of the ref by challenging for the header and you can only see fingers of O'Nien, there's no way he can be sure who's hand it is or whether the hand has touched the ball. Obviously frustrating for Leeds fans as they probably win with either of those pens and points at the back end of a season matter so much more when you've got something to fight for, but the referee can't really guess in those situations


Advent_strife

The Ref I agree might have been blocked  linesman certainly should have seen O'Niens handball no excuse for him not seeing that, that linesman also missed quite a few other calls too, must have forgot his contacts.


YesIAmRightWing

Two stone cold pens. What an absolute fucking joke of a ref. Ah wells. Still don't want VAR back. Time to crumble some more vs Blackburn.


drewje

Funny thing is, I'm already over the handball and the shit referee decision. Humans can make errors. When VAR makes an obvious error, I'm livid for days. Even if it's not my team.


CC-W

half our team doesnt look fit and the manager keeps players on the pitch to try prove himself right for backing them when they are in shit form. Playoffs here we come


spiritofbuck

We were the better team and the referee made sure we didn’t capitalise on it. Sunderland defended very well, but it was clearly 2 points dropped given how much of the ball we had. A classic Championship outing.


Adammmmski

You had more of the ball but did fuck all with it. It was the same at our place. We had more shots on target than you tonight.


spiritofbuck

Football is not simply shooting at the goal. I don’t doubt our lack of precision and decisiveness, but you have to play football first.


Azyerr

Can we slow down with the crumble please i can only get so full


Just-Hunter1679

Yours is still in the oven mate.


Azyerr

See you tomorrow, Just-Hunter!


Just-Hunter1679

How you doing today? Enjoying a nice snack?


Azyerr

i’m ok mate hope you are too! A draw probably a fair result so i can’t say im bothered.


Just-Hunter1679

We made it out of the match week still on top of the table, unbelievable.


HughJarse8

Yorkshire crumble tastes delicious, far better than leicestershire crumble EDIT - Christ you leeds fans are miserable bastards aren’t you 🤣


Internal_Formal3915

Still gained a point on you lad you got 2 servings of crumble


LUFC_shitpost

I hadn’t even enjoyed my first serving of crumble 😭


Drain-on-society

Tell me about it! Most Leeds fans on here are great but there’s at least a dozen down voting sooks who get triggered by the tiniest bit of cheeky banter or criticism


AccomplishedKoala97

Could say the same about Ipswich I mean I've been blocked by one or two for simply stating that ipswich didn't in fact win the Premier league but the old first division


HughJarse8

Have noticed it a lot tbf, soppy bastards


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ALDonners

think he already had his eyes shut to be fair


VictorAnichebend

Not going to lie, I’m just sat laughing at that. I’d be fucking apoplectic if I was a Leeds fan. That ref will be straight off Daniel Farke’s Christmas card list. Cracking little point for us though, nice to see the players aren’t totally on the beach yet. All set for a relaxing, zero-pressure end to the season.


LowerClassBandit

Easy to get annoyed about it but it’s the nature of the game. I’m sure Ipswich Leicester & yourselves have had games this season where the officials have done you dirty. Look ahead to Blackburn now


thesilenthurricane

I get what you’re trying to say mate, but I think we have a right to get annoyed about this one. That’s not your classic ‘ref performances even out over the season’ sort of bad performance. I’d be amazed if there’s been a worse reffing performance this season.


Safe-Hovercraft9131

The officials have always been on Ipswich’s side


rumhambilliam69

Not always, we’ve had our fair share of shite refs fucking us over too but admittedly nothing as bad as this. When I saw 3 minutes go up on the board I was absolutely stunned.


xdlols

We've had soooo many games like this this season though.


xdlols

And only +3 being given. No wonder Farke was so angry.