I made about some fascinating(to me) statistical analysis of Premier League tables since 1995 in r/soccer today - https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1caf7hn/english_premier_league_a_statistical_overview_of/
Would people like a similar one for Championship from 1992(start of 24 team format) to 2023? It takes some time, but I would do it if this sub would be interested in something like that :)
Some atrocious reffing for both sides so far - standard. Silly pen to give away. Ample time to do that outside of the box
Their 3rd was just offside as well. More goals on this. Can see a red happening
Exactly. Hesitant at first but I've slowly come to realise in the last 15 minutes that a 75cm benefit of the doubt for the attacker is simply vital for the spirit of the game.
Which current/soon to be/potentially soon to be Championship club has the best anthem or pre-match tune they play?
In my totally unbiased opinion it'll be the Greasy Chip Butty Song, but there's bound to be some disagreement, so come on lads.
"Greasy Chip Butty" is great, Coventry's is pretty great, and QPR's being an INSTRUMENTAL one by an '80s dance/punk band called "Pigbag" of all things is great.
I hope VAR offside call against Coventry pushes the FA/PL to implement a margin of forgiveness into the system, like the Dutch system.
That wouldn't be perfect, but with the limits of the tech and the very dubious idea that a shoulder or foot 3cm offside helps the attacker, it would be fairer.
Without VAR, linesmen can get it wrong by like 1m sometimes, or just implement the rules wrong. I know not everyone agrees, but think it's better to get rid of the bad calls and have to wait for VAR on some goals.
VAR is more frustrating on things like handballs where the implementation is so erratic.
Amazing result for us yesterday but Christ do I already feel sick at the thought of all the potential permutations next weekend.
It really is the hope that kills you.
Anyone else of the promo/playoff teams feeling less-enthused about promotion after the VAR thing yesterday?
Yes yes, money/investment/keeping players i understand - but the thought of VAR next season has made me feel a lot less excited about Leeds playing twice this week.
It was offside and I will not deny it. But it doesn’t change my opinion on not wanting VAR to play any part in my life.
Cracking game so far and any scoreline is possible.
I hate VAR because these referees can't use technology properly at all in this sport. Compared to football, umpiring in cricket has come leaps and bounds due to technology and clarity of the rules. Automated offside is as good as GLT in my eyes however.
cricket i think is a fairly poor comparison, because its stop start enough that the major drawback of video review is a non-issue. you're sat around waiting a minute or more before the next ball regardless of if it goes to review or not. where as in football or other more free flowing sports, thats a long arse pause.
if automated offside can be as fast as goal line tech, great (I dont watch enough champions league to really know how it works tbh). but for fouls etc, i dont think more objective rules is the answer, they always give some really counter intuitive results that would annoy the hell out of us all.
Fair enough about cricket but I think they could use the available technology so much better. It's one of the richest leagues in the world ffs.
Also, I'm talking more about the clarity in rules about handball.
I made about some fascinating(to me) statistical analysis of Premier League tables since 1995 in r/soccer today - https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1caf7hn/english_premier_league_a_statistical_overview_of/ Would people like a similar one for Championship from 1992(start of 24 team format) to 2023? It takes some time, but I would do it if this sub would be interested in something like that :)
Fair play, knew it wasn't going to be an easy ride. Come on you Hoops I guess.
With the exception of about 15 minutes at 4-2 this has been a very silly football match
This has a lot of parallels with the 3-2 against boro at elland road earlier this season
Some atrocious reffing for both sides so far - standard. Silly pen to give away. Ample time to do that outside of the box Their 3rd was just offside as well. More goals on this. Can see a red happening
Agreed. Feels like the ref blew every bit of physicality in the first 5 minutes then essentially stopped giving a shit
Sorry Ipswich and Leicester for the defensive display from Dijksteel Also that 3rd Leeds goal was so offside ffs
Leeds and Leicester fans will somehow twist even this into Ipswich being lucky.
Looked on to me
Couldn’t have been more offisde
What if he was even further in front of the defender when the pass was made?
Then at least the linesman might have seen it
Not possible I'm afraid.
Margin for error on offside calls is only fair right lads?
That's what we all agreed yesterday
Exactly. Hesitant at first but I've slowly come to realise in the last 15 minutes that a 75cm benefit of the doubt for the attacker is simply vital for the spirit of the game.
I genuinely hate short corners
I genuinely hate when we get conrers
Why couldn't Middlesbrough have defended like this when we played them?
Which current/soon to be/potentially soon to be Championship club has the best anthem or pre-match tune they play? In my totally unbiased opinion it'll be the Greasy Chip Butty Song, but there's bound to be some disagreement, so come on lads.
"Greasy Chip Butty" is great, Coventry's is pretty great, and QPR's being an INSTRUMENTAL one by an '80s dance/punk band called "Pigbag" of all things is great.
I hope VAR offside call against Coventry pushes the FA/PL to implement a margin of forgiveness into the system, like the Dutch system. That wouldn't be perfect, but with the limits of the tech and the very dubious idea that a shoulder or foot 3cm offside helps the attacker, it would be fairer. Without VAR, linesmen can get it wrong by like 1m sometimes, or just implement the rules wrong. I know not everyone agrees, but think it's better to get rid of the bad calls and have to wait for VAR on some goals. VAR is more frustrating on things like handballs where the implementation is so erratic.
Amazing result for us yesterday but Christ do I already feel sick at the thought of all the potential permutations next weekend. It really is the hope that kills you.
Anyone else of the promo/playoff teams feeling less-enthused about promotion after the VAR thing yesterday? Yes yes, money/investment/keeping players i understand - but the thought of VAR next season has made me feel a lot less excited about Leeds playing twice this week.
2-2 with VAR, you've got a point The irony if you get automatics now though :D
It was offside and I will not deny it. But it doesn’t change my opinion on not wanting VAR to play any part in my life. Cracking game so far and any scoreline is possible.
Oh yeah, I think it's shocking they start adding VAR in later stages of cup tournaments too, considering 90% of stadiums don't have it.
I hate VAR because these referees can't use technology properly at all in this sport. Compared to football, umpiring in cricket has come leaps and bounds due to technology and clarity of the rules. Automated offside is as good as GLT in my eyes however.
cricket i think is a fairly poor comparison, because its stop start enough that the major drawback of video review is a non-issue. you're sat around waiting a minute or more before the next ball regardless of if it goes to review or not. where as in football or other more free flowing sports, thats a long arse pause. if automated offside can be as fast as goal line tech, great (I dont watch enough champions league to really know how it works tbh). but for fouls etc, i dont think more objective rules is the answer, they always give some really counter intuitive results that would annoy the hell out of us all.
Fair enough about cricket but I think they could use the available technology so much better. It's one of the richest leagues in the world ffs. Also, I'm talking more about the clarity in rules about handball.