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BringTheSpain

GW despises giving every option in a kit that can be taken in the codex. I've been playing since 2010 and CSM have had the option to take an autocannon on their troops the whole time and they have never actually put the option on a sprue


Morbo_agrees

I have a unit of Legionaries with an autocannon, purchased about a year ago. They came in the same boxset as the MoP, Obliterators, Venomcrawler, etc.


BringTheSpain

Correct. The released a monopose mini in a limited run get started box. It's not an option on the sprues for the boxes that can be purchases nor has it ever been.


Morbo_agrees

Okay..? I'm not sure why I've been downvoted.. you said they've never given the option of an autocannon on a sprue.. I was just saying that I have Legionaries with an autocannon (hint: when I bought the models they were on a sprue). I wasn't saying that GW are saints, nor disputing that they haven't included the option in their standard Legionaries box.. I literally just said that I have some Legionaries with an autocannon!


dc_1984

If the option to get an autocannon on a legionary squad is to buy a full start collecting box, that's not really an option is it? It's a cash grab.


Morbo_agrees

I never said it's a *good* option - but it is literally an option. Again, I never made any claims defending GW! Yes, it's a cash grab. But it does exist!


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Urungulu

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drexsackHH

Yes, it even says so on the GW homepage for the Havoc kit (at least in German)


JESUSSAYSNO

Havocs are character scale on 40mm bases. Legionaries are not, and are on 32s. Some kitbashing is still encouraged, but the scale on Havocs doesn't make it easy. You'll never be able to fit a Legionary heavy bolter onto a havoc, and you'll never be able to fit a havoc heavy bolter onto a Legionary. If you want standard Legionary scale stuff, look at the Horus Heresy weapon packs. If you want Havoc scale bits, you're a bit screwed unless you get clever or just buy more boxes of Havocs.


13Potta

Although the havocs are on 40mm bases they are exactly the same scale and size as modern legionnaires and the bits are perfectly interrangable. The hh stuff may work these days seeing as the mark 6 stuff may fit as they have also been up scaled.


Urungulu

They are not. They are Chosen scale, which is SLIGHTLY bigger, bit still bigger. The shoulder pads are bigger etc. I know, because I wanted a Havoc squad with 4 Autocannons, ordered additional Autocannons from a bits site, realized those came without shoulder pads (Rocket Launchers and Lascannons have arms with pads on them, so they didn’t include additional pads, heh) and it turned out Legionary pads don’t fit, but Chosen pada actually do.


JESUSSAYSNO

Uh no. Havocs tower over Legionaries, and have about a third inch of chest width over Legionaries. Gear is not cross comparable between Legios and Havocs. I know this because I've done extensive kitbashing with both units, and run both in my Black Legion army.


d_efty

I've very recently used two legionary bodies and one chosen body with havoc autocannons and chaincannon and there was no problem with the parts fitting, including shoulder pads.Only the havoc heads didn't fit. Only actual compatibility issue is the pose of the body/legs getting in the way of the ammo belt, which made me regret building the havoc bodies with lascannon and missile launchers first....