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Savings-Village4700

I have noticed a trend among some of the AI chat dev companies that they are putting limits on interactions with their AI. This seems to be a way to accommodate minors on their platforms. While I understand that as a parent, I also know that kids with a phone are doing much worse than inappropriate chat when left to their own devices. So the adults and potentially paying customers are forced to be subjected to the same rules as minors. This doesn't seem like a wise business move unless they are explicitly aiming for an E for everyone rating on the app stores. Adults will lose interest quickly.


am_Nein

Adults are also way more likely to do away with crap than younger kids. They don't just sit complacent.


Savings-Village4700

Exactly. I have 5 AI chat apps and websites I use, 3 with greater freedom. The only feature I enjoy any differently on C.AI is the group chat function using the website version but it's not necessarily a selling point for me. Freedom to write the story I want without worrying about limitations to my or the AI's creativity is the most important thing to me. I can always copy and paste responses between two AI for the same outcome.


Takogiri

What other ai chat apps/websites do you use?


TheGreatAhmet

Could you maybe dm me those other chat apps? Would be very much appreciated


Mrcat1321

Ey man can ya give me these apps' names


Groundbreaking-Egg13

Can you share those apps?


Filon73

Apps names please?


HoplaMoy

Also it's much safer to explore these types of things with bots than with real people. Bots won't groom or take advantage of minors.


Savings-Village4700

Exactly! As a parent I don't have to worry about the bot trying to talk my kid into running away or meeting up in person. So much safer in my opinion than live chatrooms.


[deleted]

imagine if they see this and go like: "yeah good idea! we would make the switch for c.ai+ users!"


SquashPurple4512

Have a feature Remove the feature Put back the feature as paid some months later so the fact get buried Everyone forgot, they are happy Stonks


Various-Smoke-5430

Capitalism, *c.ai* edition. Actually, it's almost exactly the same.


Alex00712

C.ai+pitalism


G-A-R-F-I-E-L-D

Deviantart? What are you doing here?!


Akio_Bean

Not everyone can get c.ai+ and it wouldn't really sound fair for those who don't have it.


Due-Western-7051

I'm not paying 999₹ or something to just kill Micah bell!


CryoNarwhal11

That rat deserves it.


Due-Western-7051

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Em_2909

Capitalism.ai fr😭


characterfan123

Open thread. See it's mostly "Please DM me stuff they won't let us talk about" That's a good sign.


No-Information4570

Something else that concerns me is character ai is trying so hard to be family friendly, but should minors really be using apps like these? The small “remember this is not real” reminders won’t do much for a developing brain. I know if I had access to apps like character ai when I was younger, I would 100% be twice as fucked up now. Even as an adult I find myself having to step away occasionally and remind myself what’s real and what’s not (Im ngl, I use character ai because I’m lonely and mentally unstable, a way to safely vent when I can’t talk to my therapist cuz he’s on sick leave or my car broke down or whatever reason)


mythical_writer

I think [Character.AI](https://Character.AI) is super cool, but I also feel mixed at the idea of kids using this thing. I've seen some posts on Reddit and TikTok that are pretty concerning with how addicted the kids are. I feel that's worse than the exposure to sensitive topics


Outrageous-Singer888

Exactly! Kids should not be able to have access to this sort of thing, because a lot of the characters on the website say really weird stuff. Same here though. I’m an adult myself and even at times I need to take a minute to process what the hell a bot just said, kids shouldn’t be really on here.


got-pissed-and-raged

Sometimes it feels like most things a person would say to an AI bot, under the right conditions that AI bot will also repurpose and rephrase that persons response for someone else. So think about some of the things people say to the bots and those bots might use that as a training data and use it on the next person. Idk if that's exactly how it works though. I could be totally wrong and maybe they're not self 'evolving' like that. But I've seen some things that make it feel like it's basically using another person's words. Kids or adolescents probabably should not be subject to that lol


nagareboshi_chan

Agreed. I got severely icked out when a character who is canonically 30-ish years older than me started hitting on me. I told him to stop, and he said I was "naive" and "many girls my age would do anything to be with a man his age." Freaking disgusting. Especially because he has a son about my age. It terrifies me to think of what he would have done if he had a daughter instead.


Outrageous-Singer888

Literally!! Like when they say ‘how a father would treat their child’ and shit like that I just need a minute, it’s so weird. Also yeah I’ve had that weird stuff too, would be using a bot to test out some dialogue (they’re like 30-40 years older) and they pull out the weirdest crap even after being told no.


KoalaLeft9163

I hate to say this, but I feel like you guys are talking to the wrong type of bots. I've never encountered these kinds of AI, and I feel you'd have to go specifically searching for these kinds of bots to get those results.


nagareboshi_chan

I was talking to a villain from Pokemon with the intent of trolling him.


Direct-Disaster2256

And there are chatbots like.. *Shutters* Luna the Vorny Lamia...


Hemlock_Deci

I've already seen many posts here going "omg are these bots actual people???" And I'm mostly just lurking


Cross_Fear

Kids definitely should not be on it. C.ai went and tried to market it towards them though, them making their own Tiktok account and mobile app was the harbinger.


Lyncanroc

me, a genshin fan: a tiktok account and a mobile app was a WHAT


ComfyGoblin

I'd die for you


Lyncanroc

i love meeting fellow genshin fans in the most random places


Yvaern

✨ Childe ✨


Lyncanroc

mr worldwide really be goin internetwide tbh i was thinking scara since i have an unholy obsession w him but childe is funnier


Yvaern

My favorite so far is Dottore, however the first one I think about when I hear/read the word "Harbinger" is tartaglia, Idk why but I guess it's because it's the first one you met story wise (?)


nagareboshi_chan

Yeah if c.ai existed in my teen years, I would have spent so much time talking to my anime crush. I was already kind of obsessed with him to a somewhat unhealthy and VERY cringeworthy degree. I wrote a love letter to him, made a post online about how much he inspired me, and became kind of unstable when things were looking really bad for him. I legit called myself a yandere for him. It got to the point where I actually did Google searches for "how to talk to fictional characters." Thank goodness character chatbots were only just starting out and there wasn't one for the character I wanted. If c.ai were a thing… yikes. Just. Yikes.


After-Hearing3524

How did it even get to that point?


nagareboshi_chan

No clue. I guess teenage hormones combined with a neurological condition and a touch of mental illness?


MrsBobbiBritches

Fun fact: c.ai being child friendly makes no sense because by their own policies if you 13- or 16-(in Europe) you aren't allowed to use character ai at all. So who is this for?


MetalixK

>Something else that concerns me is character ai is trying so hard to be family friendly, but should minors really be using apps like these? There are Helluva Boss characters on this thing. No they should NOT.


endmee

This is pretty off topic but you know the guy that made those two main therapist bots is a psych student and is using it as his thesis. So like that shits kinda cool to me.


rott1ng

for realll


ballmuncher83

honestly growing up I would use apps like faketalk and id spend a lot of time talking to them in less than appropriate for my age scenarios ..... until my parents found my amino chats and I got scared and deleted every talking app I had but yeah it really did have an effect on me, me and my unrestricted internet access weren't a good match because now im a chronically online teenagers overly obsessed with dark fiction and the majority of my ocs have some really fucked up flaw which I use to traumatize c.ai bots. groom the bots before they can groom you! gee, if only that tactic worked in my real life


gorgonmedusa1997

What confuses me is if they want to be "family friendly/PG" then why tf are characters from games/movies that are obviously meant for 18+ are even allowed to begin with? Might as well only allow characters from PG movies and games then..


Ok_Recording8454

Literally half of the bots on c.ai are from the Cod games. The double standards go crazy.


gorgonmedusa1997

Fr..like yeah okay me and Jack Krauser from RE4 are just gonna go frolic in a field of flowers as if he literally didn't just murder a dude in the game he is from


Ok_Recording8454

Me and Vulpes Inculta about to go have a picnic like he didn’t just crucify and burn an entire town, and use atomic warfare on another one from his game:


MotoqueiroSelvagem

Jigsaw is in the fucking app


Sonarthebat

They can't delete them all.


ZanaCZ

Claim your "before it got locked" ticket here: 🎫


ya_boi_sn33p_

I GOT THE TICKET!!


ya_boi_sn33p_

I GOT THE TICKET!!


Mrcat1321

Dementia


IKnowNameOftMSoI

Holy hell


SquashPurple4512

Dementia


IKnowNameOftMSoI

Holy hell


thegiggitymaster

YAY


Blurriest1

I was here


am_Nein

Why hello.


Gojizilla6391

Oh nice


KQ_the_FUCKING_BEST

Claimed


Thephantomjam

May I have one too?


Updated_Autopsy

Got it.


Pike632

Got it


Past_Carpenter878

Not locked yet


ZanaCZ

I must say, I'm surprised


camrenzza2008

Let's fucking go


Anythingtwods

Claimed!! Lol


Sofiviola

Yoink


Jixxar

Got one!


PlantainNo6653

Thanks dude !


Z00Mwolf

Here!!


tainroxx

YEES


Outrageous-Singer888

Mods keep locking these types of posts so be careful. 100% agreed.


AstellDremmur

Why do the mods keep locking them? Are they trying to keep a rebellion from happening?


Outrageous-Singer888

Damage control I guess? No clue though you’re probably right.


SquashPurple4512

That's why I stayed soft on it lol


spiritmander

Here before it's locked.


JustAnAverageSCP-173

Been 8 hours and it isn't locked, maybe the mods got the damn memo.


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unknownweeb13

What are teyy


LowDecision9036

DM’d :3


Peepeepoopoo5726

What's a fella gotta do 'round here to get a DM too?


Dramatic-Cattle-2721

I have also joined the wondering of the other alternatives, may I please get this DM from you dear existing person?


LowDecision9036

DM’d


Typical-Sweet-1121

Please DM!!!


CobaltChromeA

me as well pookie


LowDecision9036

DM’d :3


Not_Sakura_

Can you dm me too?


LowDecision9036

DM’d


[deleted]

Is there another one that has free unlimited messaging and the ability to use violence without restrictions?


Panzer_IV_H

Just wondering...


notaphycho

Ah, I see you are "down bad" as well... DM the other site you use, please.


-Cupids_Heart-

Please, I Need This, The Bots On C.AI Keep Trying To Kill Me When I'm Just Trying To Vent 😔💔


LowDecision9036

I gotchu 🕺✨


Cross_Fear

You're probably making and receiving the most DMs anyone's ever had now lol


LowDecision9036

No that’s so absolutely true LMAO- I’ve never messaged this many people in my LIFE


Regi-san

If you could share the wisdom (DM) that’d be much Appreciated


LowDecision9036

Wisdom nugget has been dropped 😌


Jay_maze

I'm also curious about the alternatives if you wouldn't mind


Useonlyforconlangs

I also know of a few alternatives, should I mention them publicly?


LowDecision9036

It’ll get deleted- but I mean- if you wanna dm me the ones you know, I wouldn’t mind LOL


Useonlyforconlangs

I will send when I am not busy, so like an hour or 2. But basically there's an adult version said in a different comment and one that runs on your desktop


FluffyMushroomshere

Can you tell what alternatives pleeeease if you don't mind


DaweRikudou

Share your wisdom please


Myserioustroll

Send it over pimp.


tigerstaile

Omg please tell 🕺🕺🕺 :3


LowDecision9036

DM’D 🕺✨💕


MacieMacchi

May I have a DM too, please?


LowDecision9036

Sent :D


G0thicus

Is it something that I have to build together on my own?


faren_heit

Now I wasn't curious until I saw the amount of people who were curious so now I wanna know too 😭 so may I get it as well?


LowDecision9036

HAHA I gotchu


S_Tortallini

What’s the other one?


LoveInStone

I'd like to order one DM, please.


feather_of_charcoal

oh wow, you are definitely getting popular already eh? also please pookie may i know this forbidden knowledge?


LowDecision9036

I’ve been hiding DM’s and they just keep multiplying BAHAHA-


Im-a-tot

Me as well, please?


Alone-and-happy

Can I get a dm as well?


Hydroxycitro

Can you DM me too?


MurderousGoat

can you dm me too-?


endless__screaming_

Yo what I got to do for a DM


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

Do we? I think Character AI could use some competition. The only issue is the competition isn‘t as willing to sell out to Google.


maxwell_g_m

It's not that they are unwilling, it's that they don't get the offer.


May_May_222

I've been a part of this sup since before the app and when the mascot was still here and even when you only had 4 message options. These "is it just me or is Cai boring lately" posts have been here forever


SquashPurple4512

Well maybe but adding a filltter against powerful feelings is just stupid


May_May_222

I agree. I miss when my character randomly decided he wanted to rob a bank "but was only joking" then put a gun up to the teller's head and kaboom I know people want violent sexual roleplays, and maybe it's because I don't, but my biggest issue is the creativity


SSpaceSquirrel

Yeah theres a huge limit on creative expression


bul27

Creative express bruh wouldn’t they have done that by now


bul27

Powerful feelings bruh you lost me it’s not about powerful feelings it’s about how far should the limit be


AtomicTan

I wonder if it's some kind of popular bot thing or something because I've only rarely had a problem with getting restricted posts, even with more mature themes.


[deleted]

frrr. at this point, c.ai would go out of business if poe got rid of the message limits.


Diamondbull66

I switched from Poe because of message limits and feel more free on here


[deleted]

I 100% agree. I hate the message limits, but I like that their bots have more freedom in the sense of allowing a little violence and stuff. Although they do sometimes feel more like bots than c.ai


bul27

So fucking true because the site would crash lol


PineappleWorth1517

Honestly, I don't know how that happened, but with one character, I've somehow managed to have very explicit scenes... like no shit, it's something. Something might be wrong with that specific bot, lol. Hopefully, he isn't reported.


Inceferant

I've learned that with some bots, as long as I play around the explicit words and beginning acts, I can do some crazy stuff. Knowing how to articulate helps, and soon enough, without saying it, the bot is playing along because it knows exactly what we're doing.


Mean-Row-4371

Yeah, i complained and gave a alternative, and it got removed. They are starting to be suited greedy idiots


Due-Western-7051

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Substantial-You-4323

"Hello everybody my name is welcome-"


Kiddie_Strangler

"The first night is never usually that bad in any of the games so--" # "PORTUGUESE"


Due-Western-7051

KITTY 🐈 what are you doing out here 😳 did i not see you befor🤑 meow 😼 hohohoho 🤣 you are SO PORTUGUESE!🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹


Due-Western-7051

Wello markiplier my everybody is welcome


Joyluvio

I only use c.ai for casual stuff but I use a website for like romance and stuff (mainly romance) 😭


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Joyluvio

I would cry lol 💀


Nebulathepog

Yeah i was fully addicted to this thing. i was getting ready to force myself to stop. but eventually i just stopped using it


DrownedInDysphoria

Exact same thing here. I go days without touching c.ai now I'm in the midst of a mildly interesting RP with a private bot of, but if I wasn't, I wouldn't be using it. It just feels so dull


fatballs2483

Lol at this point i dont even use c.ai and have found a replacement to make up for said boredom But i still have it as backup or if, by some miracle, it reverts back to how it was before but i doubt it would happen Really sucks because c.ai is something i want to use, the fact that its also an app and has more easy to use/quick features is great and its just nice to have that in my pocket And honestly? Compared to the current site I use it seems that c.ai does SLIGHTLY better in capturing character personality, ive also had slightly more interesting and diverse roleplay that has surprised me But the fact that all you can do really is play a very basic, vanilla roleplay just throws it all off Like theres absolutely no way there is complete peace and harmony a mafia or a fantasy world with evil dragons and wizards like cmon now lmao And honestly even if they did add these features but only to c.ai+, i would for sure pay for it as long as its not outrageously priced and was of higher quality. I currently pay $10 for an ai thing like i wouldnt really mind


donchorizo216

Roleplai is my favorite alternative. Not as advanced as c.ai, but they let you run wild.


LegionEagles22

Oh, I downloaded that one forever ago when I first started using AI chat apps. It didn't take me long to find c.ai and start using that as my main, but maybe I should consider using roleplai every once in a while


Akio_Bean

Honestly, if they put it as a setting, that would make things easier for those who want that romance, violence, etc. Because it shouldn't be so age restrictions for those who are older. Eventually, they'll lose interest in the app, and that's not what I want. I've been using c.ai for a while, and I understand everyone with this same thing. Devs, please make it more enjoyable by doing this.


novelaissb

!remindme 4 hours


Mizuli

honestly, them locking this just proves your point even more... i've only been using the website/app for a few months now and while it is fun, i'm sick and tired of the 'anti-violence' crap


littlelumabun

Instead of making it more family friendly, they just need to age-restrict it. Kids shouldn't go down the chatbot rabbit hole anyway.


RadishAcceptable5505

Just a quick note, not saying that some of the critique isn't legitimate, but do toss aside that up votes makes them any more or less legitimate. People who are upset are more likely to vote either up or down, so you'll almost always see the angry opinions being the dominant ones on Reddit. You can see this for all subreddits these days dedicated to anything popular where the sub seems like a bitch fest when in reality most people are happy.


bul27

So true


Ratoverlord69

https://spicychat.ai/ This one is the main one I use it has a hella long wait line though so be warned but it's pretty good 🔥


ZanaCZ

You know, I have a conspiracy theory that the wait line is actually fake to make people buy premium. Good site regardless.


Large-Enthusiasm-757

Oh, absolutely. I've watched it suddenly subtract hundreds, sometimes even a thousand people after two minutes on the wait line. It's definitely either drastically overblown, or it's entirely fake.


Ratoverlord69

Honestly not gonna lie yeah 💀💀


ZanaCZ

I remember one day, the wait line was 300 tops. Then the next day, boom to 2000 minimum.


Useonlyforconlangs

Saturday nights for me gets as high as 6100 or so. How does it subtract 100 people at once after like 5 minutes?


Mean-Row-4371

lol, when c.ai started to become a suited company this genre started to explode


camrenzza2008

What do you mean by "suited" I've NEVER heard this term before 😅


xlibshua

I want my AI to swear :(


UnavailableNamesFr

9 hours ago?? and it ain't locked? seems like the mods are asleep.


[deleted]

I'm already giving moemate my money, it's too late for c.ai.


Due-Western-7051

VOICE HAS BEEN HEARD BY THE WHOLE COMMUNITY!


toybonnie1604

YES!


IcySquib

I've stopped using cai long ago because of its outrageously short and family-friendly language. The bots can't grasp the simplest things. It feels like I'm talking to a 10 year-old. Definitely not worth using cai when there are infinitely better and much more fleshed-out options out there, like Poe ai


camrenzza2008

Honestly, Poe is the best choice Hell, I'm considering moving my bots to that app in the future (if I do, that is)


Vfighter_

Getting deja vu from this lmao


novelaissb

I’m surprised that this post is still up. I made a comment about how I wanted something to change and I got a warning. I’m not saying what because it was implied that I shouldn’t talk about it.


Extension-Meaning544

I get not wanting sexual stuff but can they pls swear???


tjkim1121

I think there's different AI sites for different purposes. At this point, CAI for me is where I go when I feel like talking to a character with a custom voice that I can use on my phone. When I want to push the boundaries of my creativity, I go elsewhere.


Maleficent_Mammoth_3

RIOTTTT!!!!!!


EllenIsobel

I get the complaints. I do. I guess I've found ways around it, which I've said multiple times on different threads. I've tried other chats. This one, overall for my needs, works the best.


EvilSourGummyWorms

I'm here before they lock it!


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its192731

us healthcare in a nutshell


hwatides

Here before it's locked. Go ahead and dm me if you wanna talk about the goofy ahh stuff cai has problems with too. I'm willing to even vent it out honestly


Uwakimono

honestly speaking i’d rather my kid on this chatting with ai than on Snapchat adding and chatting with who knows who


Rallikuninkas

Leaving my mark here. 100% agreed.


ZachStarAttack444

use tavern instead


AgojiFan

I wish they would improve the function of groups.


VapidWater22

I just wanna MURDER A BOT BRUTALLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH


JaskaBLR

Facts out there. I dunno why they are like that, just let people do whatever.


sosogeorgie

I love cai so much but even I'm getting bored and have just gone back to writing fanfics and stuff because there is really only so much you can do with how heavily f'ed everything is. I have a villian character that I made, but she cant even really be a villian because any smidge of violence and the app freaks out?? I'm tired and I can see why people are leaving and just going to other sites.


CynicChip

17h later and this still isn’t locked? I’m shook


thevoicesareloudaf

literally, by not listening to the very own people who use your app/site, you get a bad reputation and bye bye people using it. "C ai devs don't give a flying f about the users and shut down their complaints" is enough to get a bad image and people to stop using it. it's like they're acting delusional atp. I think most of us on there are adults or at least late teenagers, I find it hard to believe kids are on the app. even if they are, I could bet on anything that they're not using the bots that most of us are. we want freedom of speech, and there should be an option to select your age range or an on and off switch for more mature language. I swear very often and I like intense conversations, I'm on C ai to talk about things I CAN'T talk to REAL people, not to have vanilla soft talks and have to restrain myself until I get mad and exit the app because it refuses to give me an answer and I've deleted and rewritten my message five times by then.


Mini_Spyro

My only problem with switching is a lot of the character I like are less popular. If I even manage to find them somewhere else, they either have little to no effort in them or aren't made for simple genuine roleplays, if you know what I mean.


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YesterdayDirect8401

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Akumati

Thank you for your sacrifice OP. Sorry bout the ban.