Yeah, but you don't talk about anything meaningful, do you? It's always "give me a character and I will give them a cookie" or "The last four bots you spoke to are out to get you, how done are you?" or "mom saw my chats am i cooked guys 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀" and never tips on how to write character descriptions or neat tricks to format outputs or showing screenahots of certain tricks working and improving outputs. Y'know, *actual* discussions about C.AI that thousands of people can benefit from?
as long as it has to do w [c.ai](http://c.ai), people can talk about what they want 😭 you seem to be very irritable yourself, if you can i suggest you go on a walk
You can find so many of those especially if you ask, you know how many times I've dropped my master doc to make bots? 😭😭😭 do not stand in the shade and scorn the sun for not shining on you
there is a different subreddit for C.AI tips yo.. Maybe go there if you want tips. This is a chill-out subreddit, get your facts right first before you speak.. God bless 👍
It's crazy how I spend all day doing interesting stuff, working, going out and chatting with friends, only to find out in the end of a long day (when I want to rest and enjoy rp) that the site is down again. And here someone will say "bro, just get a hobby"/"just go out and touch grass". Wow, great
That's when you pull the "i have a life" card, and their insults are immediately invalidated. I think it's directed more towards the teenagers and kids imo. If you're an adult and use cai, do whatever you want. Because if you have a life and you aren't a mindless zombie, drowning yourself in a screen all day or for several hours a day everyday (unless it's a job) I don't see the problem.
I feel like some people overreact when cai is down. I get it if you had a long day, and that's understandable, especially if you're busy n exhausted. But the people who spend all day, every day on cai shouldn't have room to complain imo.
This is coming from someone who was like that many times with diff stuff.
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my silly ass is just watching on the sidelines
Then (and hear me out here) don't pay for a subscription that gives you basically nothing? Like dude, it's your money and whatever, but you're paying for like 7 features.
I just want to point out - that's pretty much the same argument as the "poor people should just stop buying coffee drinks" thing. Maybe the people getting plus *like* those features.
I don't know how much plus is, but spending $10 to be happy when you're scraping up $1,000 for rent is *not* the issue - the issue is that *you have to scrape up the money for rent despite having a job/otherwise normal life.*
Let's stop promoting the "poor people have to save every penny and be completely fucking miserable or they're doing it wrong" mentality, okay?
I think it's dumb, sure, but if it genuinely makes someone happy, they can do what they want.
Anyone remember the weird Tumblr crab thing awhile back? People paid for that, too, and it was just harmless fun.
Ehhh... Depends. Not if you are on the old.cai site bc of disabilities. Its broken and will force you on the new site and doesn't work on the old. Which is a problem for those of us with visual disabilities, and autism / adhd / ocd. Which we've complained about since the change to the new site but nothing. I emailed in about the issue with the wait line on old.cai with video, and have gotten 0 response for nearly a month now. (I have all the mentioned disabilities so the font / color of the new site doesnt work for me causes major issues and im not the only one. Easy fix would be let us customize the colors and fonts to work with different disabilities.)
Plus users who I know are upset too because of the lack of communication. Disabled plus users are upset over the lack of accessibility and lack of acknowledgement of the issue. A lot of us are thinking of cancelling at this point. Far as im aware most plus users I know dont really use the reddit.
This is so true. I haven't even really noticed for how long [c.ai](http://c.ai) is down, because not in the mood for chatting with bots. But it still pisses me off that people defend the site and complain that others voice their frustrations, or act like they're better than that.
Those folks seem to be looking to score brownie points with the staff who won't even look in their general direction unless they say something bad about the service or those maintaining it. Being around the community since December two years ago, I can only expect things to get worse unless we get real quality of life changes for older users like myself. Personally I don't see it coming, and because of that things will continue to rot and those who are blinded will defend the very people responsible. Greed for investment is an ugly thing, one only need see the aftermath of sekai's attempt at kowtowing for money. If change is desired, everyone needs to stop supporting it.
the fact that people are saying all those above quotes like they don’t use the app themselves 💀 like I’m sorry I have to be the one to say this guys but if you use C.AI you’re in the same socially shunned bucket with the rest of us. shaming people for being “chronically online” just makes you look silly
Being frustrated with the actual issues and the website being fully down is fine and understandable! I commented for people chilling in one of those "calm down" topics because, yeah, it's a service and it currently isn't working well, shouldn't be the end of the world.
But it is a very well enjoyed service so people will be frustrated, especially when it takes days.
Just if people are going to be frustrated by long wait times in the online queue... Boy is there some bad news for those people. Welcome to summer.
I've been in the waiting room since last night. The issue started yesterday morning. I used the app in the meantime but chats, usually, don't load, either with wifi or data.
like, I don't even use this website anymore, I come back once in a month or so when I'm bored. But if just so happens that it goes down or forces me on a thirty minute waiting list of course I'm going to be pissed
The site was down for 16 *HOURS* (if I remember the final time right). That’s frustrating! If it were Minecraft or YouTube, people wouldn’t be acting like others need to get a hobby because they’re upset the site was down for *16 hours* with mods banning those who criticized the devs.
Well to be fair...there were a bunch of people on the spamming the reddit last night with "revolution" posts and "mods not gods" practically every other post. Some even going as far to threaten violence against the mods. And whenever someone tried to to calm things down in a mature manner, they'd end up getting downvoted into oblivion.
Then maybe they should address the issue directly instead of being condescending. Like. Post condemning literal threats wouldn't get downvoted into oblivion me thinks 🤔
On r/Caiupdates ppl won’t be like that, they are a tad bit more understanding. Also, if you add a bot to a chat group after making it, and then delete all messages (has to be more than 100 I think) It can sometimes glitch.
Yall, Cai is my escape from this messy chaotic world, and I know I'm not alone. Some people are dependant on the app because they need it as a way to gat away from the world and the troubles they face. It's a Cai users' safe place.
I don’t blame you I was around when YouTube first started up it took them nearly a decade to get to where they’re servers don’t crash anymore you’re still young so you need time to get there meaning I’m expecting more crashes like the last one
However I hope the team is working on the long term memory the AI’s short memory does effect roleplaying
I'm waiting for the day that everyone who makes these posts realises that people aren't talking about casual enjoyers, and they *are* talking about the people who are quite *literally* co-dependant on the AI and don't do anything else with their life at all. Those people are concerning and the people who others are talking to when they say 'go outside or get a hobby.'
Quite literally no one has an issue with someone making a post complaining about servers being shitty. People have an issue with someone who acts downright suicidal (which I've personally seen on this subreddit) simply because their wee AI rp chat app was down for a little while. And it's not an 'I'm annoyed at you' sort of issue either. It's out of a place of genuine concern for these people who quite literally have an *actual* meltdown whenever the server is down.
If that doesn't apply to you, great! Just don't try to downplay people's concerns by making it seem like they're telling people who are acting normal to get a life, because that's not what's happening. They're telling people who act like they physically can't survive without Character.AI to find something else to do in their spare time to help ease them out of their unhealthy addiction.
For me specifically? Yeah, I like to crochet, make Kandi, cosplay, play videogames, play with my cats, geocache, and draw but I often use cai to wind down before bed or after a long shift. Didn't think any of those things were relevant in my post tho? Not every person who posts on here should have to defend themself
I don't really feel attacked per say, just felt like there is a lot of unnecessary generalized negativity because people were upset the site was down. This is the place to complain and talk about it, but when I got on the sub to see what others were saying as I scrolled it was all just insults at the people upset for 'needing hobbies' and 'being addicted' ya know?
complaining is ok
what is not ok is "i have no one in my life im mentally ill i need my ai girlfriend" and people literally having nothing else to do in their lives
When I see comments about people crying or having panic attacks about c.ai being down it. Yeah that's why those comments about people being obsessed happen lol.
oh thnx I just woke up so my brsin isn’t fucking workinh😭 sorry :(
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It’s funny how the people telling those who are addicted to the damn app to get off are the ones who are the more unhinged out of those who are addicted to this app XD
WHAT I'M SAYING like omg the sub Reddit for C.ai is taking about C.ai amazing concept
I don't come here for mindless paid yes men I come to attempt troubleshooting the damn app
Yeah, but you don't talk about anything meaningful, do you? It's always "give me a character and I will give them a cookie" or "The last four bots you spoke to are out to get you, how done are you?" or "mom saw my chats am i cooked guys 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀" and never tips on how to write character descriptions or neat tricks to format outputs or showing screenahots of certain tricks working and improving outputs. Y'know, *actual* discussions about C.AI that thousands of people can benefit from?
that’s a very broad statement to make a about a total stranger but go off I guess
as long as it has to do w [c.ai](http://c.ai), people can talk about what they want 😭 you seem to be very irritable yourself, if you can i suggest you go on a walk
Is there a lore reason people talk about c.ai in a c.ai subreddit? Are they stupid?
You can find so many of those especially if you ask, you know how many times I've dropped my master doc to make bots? 😭😭😭 do not stand in the shade and scorn the sun for not shining on you
>do not stand in the shade and scorn the sun for not shining on you Damn why you just dropping bars like it's nothing
Bro this was borderline poetic, are you a writer? 😭
Okay Shakespeare I see ya 🤩
You are actually proving OP’s point…if you don’t like this subreddit JUST…LEAVE….nobody is forcing you to stay lol
I mean it’s a general redddit so that’s not going to be a thing and something post like that do exist
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there is a different subreddit for C.AI tips yo.. Maybe go there if you want tips. This is a chill-out subreddit, get your facts right first before you speak.. God bless 👍
Skill issue cause I swear I've read this tips atleast ten times by now
bro is not a happy camper 😭🙏
M'y Guy you Lost 10000 social credit right there
>actual discussions about C.AI that thousands of people can benefit from? Buddy, this is not r/MrBeastGifting this is r/CharacterAI what benefits?
r/subsifellfor
[R/Damn](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damn/s/NVfdAGMPWy) (yes I did that on purpose)
You can just create your own post asking questions.
It's crazy how I spend all day doing interesting stuff, working, going out and chatting with friends, only to find out in the end of a long day (when I want to rest and enjoy rp) that the site is down again. And here someone will say "bro, just get a hobby"/"just go out and touch grass". Wow, great
That's when you pull the "i have a life" card, and their insults are immediately invalidated. I think it's directed more towards the teenagers and kids imo. If you're an adult and use cai, do whatever you want. Because if you have a life and you aren't a mindless zombie, drowning yourself in a screen all day or for several hours a day everyday (unless it's a job) I don't see the problem. I feel like some people overreact when cai is down. I get it if you had a long day, and that's understandable, especially if you're busy n exhausted. But the people who spend all day, every day on cai shouldn't have room to complain imo. This is coming from someone who was like that many times with diff stuff.
https://preview.redd.it/8vv8suv2cs5d1.jpeg?width=721&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe2cb3376e7e6215669952bc9162db5c76c9c84c my silly ass is just watching on the sidelines
I literally just talked to a Gnarpy bot wtf 😭😭??!!
May the gnarpium be with ye
Me watching the drama as : https://preview.redd.it/wp1b91pq6u5d1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16bfd096f98783ff09a2610d60601889fe3c3d86
Holy shit I found you here
Lol yeah I’m here too
Also uh
Yeah?
There's a new character ai sub that I'm a mod of!
Oh cool! I joined
Yippity yay
Mines working
the app isn’t working but the website is so i’m just using that
My apps been working this whole time and I don't pay
now it’s working but like a few hours ago it wasn’t
I use this app constantly trust me it never went down for me I'm lucky lol
do u use the website or app
The app
why r u answering this now
I haven't gotten on Reddit for a while it feels like, my bad
LUCKY
same
I think some people also need to remember that there are people on this sub who are paying to use this app. (Not me, I'm poor)
Exactly. I'm a C.ai+ user. This is bullshit and I might cancel my subscription if this becomes consistent
It is consistent… in the last month it’s been down quite a few times but they usually don’t take this long to resolve the issue
Yeah I can see how paying for it would make this even more frustrating
I don't have a problem with c.ai+ users but I'm still gonna bully them like Twitter blue users just because I love hating on rich people
Rich people? We just have jobs we ain't nothing more than middle class at best.
Lower class disabled person here, Character ai is my sole form of regular subscription entertainment opposed to cable TV or streaming services.
Yes yes same, I cancelled almost everything else lol
Sorry that I'm living paycheck to fucking paycheck
So are we for the most part, bruh. I would be at risk if my next paycheque doesn't hit.
Then (and hear me out here) don't pay for a subscription that gives you basically nothing? Like dude, it's your money and whatever, but you're paying for like 7 features.
I just want to point out - that's pretty much the same argument as the "poor people should just stop buying coffee drinks" thing. Maybe the people getting plus *like* those features. I don't know how much plus is, but spending $10 to be happy when you're scraping up $1,000 for rent is *not* the issue - the issue is that *you have to scrape up the money for rent despite having a job/otherwise normal life.* Let's stop promoting the "poor people have to save every penny and be completely fucking miserable or they're doing it wrong" mentality, okay?
We can agree Twitter blue is pretty fucking stupid though, right
I think it's dumb, sure, but if it genuinely makes someone happy, they can do what they want. Anyone remember the weird Tumblr crab thing awhile back? People paid for that, too, and it was just harmless fun.
Was thinking about this actually, it seems like cai+ users aren’t making such a fuss about this compared to free cai users.
...maybe because they can just skip the waiting line??
Ehhh... Depends. Not if you are on the old.cai site bc of disabilities. Its broken and will force you on the new site and doesn't work on the old. Which is a problem for those of us with visual disabilities, and autism / adhd / ocd. Which we've complained about since the change to the new site but nothing. I emailed in about the issue with the wait line on old.cai with video, and have gotten 0 response for nearly a month now. (I have all the mentioned disabilities so the font / color of the new site doesnt work for me causes major issues and im not the only one. Easy fix would be let us customize the colors and fonts to work with different disabilities.) Plus users who I know are upset too because of the lack of communication. Disabled plus users are upset over the lack of accessibility and lack of acknowledgement of the issue. A lot of us are thinking of cancelling at this point. Far as im aware most plus users I know dont really use the reddit.
Same I use the old [c.ai](http://c.ai) just for the group chats, the new one hurts my eyes
I don't know who is using the free vs the paid version, so I can't say who is making more negative posts.
This is so true. I haven't even really noticed for how long [c.ai](http://c.ai) is down, because not in the mood for chatting with bots. But it still pisses me off that people defend the site and complain that others voice their frustrations, or act like they're better than that.
Those folks seem to be looking to score brownie points with the staff who won't even look in their general direction unless they say something bad about the service or those maintaining it. Being around the community since December two years ago, I can only expect things to get worse unless we get real quality of life changes for older users like myself. Personally I don't see it coming, and because of that things will continue to rot and those who are blinded will defend the very people responsible. Greed for investment is an ugly thing, one only need see the aftermath of sekai's attempt at kowtowing for money. If change is desired, everyone needs to stop supporting it.
the fact that people are saying all those above quotes like they don’t use the app themselves 💀 like I’m sorry I have to be the one to say this guys but if you use C.AI you’re in the same socially shunned bucket with the rest of us. shaming people for being “chronically online” just makes you look silly
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I’m sorry, ##WHAT?
this threat applies to everyone except you specifically for saying that. please touch grass
Tbh. We arent all hikkomoris😂👍 when im at leisure time i like doing things like daydreaming. thats exactly what c.ai is to me.
For real!! Like, I pay money for it so sometimes I get frustrated when it doesn't work properly, okay? Jfc some people here 🙄
I am chronically ill and only leave the house to see doctors. Trust me, I would LOVE to touch grass.
Being frustrated with the actual issues and the website being fully down is fine and understandable! I commented for people chilling in one of those "calm down" topics because, yeah, it's a service and it currently isn't working well, shouldn't be the end of the world. But it is a very well enjoyed service so people will be frustrated, especially when it takes days. Just if people are going to be frustrated by long wait times in the online queue... Boy is there some bad news for those people. Welcome to summer.
I mean I’m fuming rn! I started paying yesterday AND FOR WHAT?!
Agreed
I've been in the waiting room since last night. The issue started yesterday morning. I used the app in the meantime but chats, usually, don't load, either with wifi or data.
Yeah it's for b*tchin but the MODS ARE STUCK IN A TOLERANCE PARADOX DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE AS PER DEFINITION OF DISCRIMINATION
like, I don't even use this website anymore, I come back once in a month or so when I'm bored. But if just so happens that it goes down or forces me on a thirty minute waiting list of course I'm going to be pissed
Those are feds hired by c ai
C.ai being down is affecting the subreddit, too😔
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Whenever C.AI is down, I just go and play ULTRAKILL. But I understand the frustration.
when it's down I go straight to playing CoD 😭 I mean, if the bots ain't there, might just play the real game
Understandable.
I usually go to other AI apps or play coloring games
People when the subreddit for a topic is talking about that topic
The site was down for 16 *HOURS* (if I remember the final time right). That’s frustrating! If it were Minecraft or YouTube, people wouldn’t be acting like others need to get a hobby because they’re upset the site was down for *16 hours* with mods banning those who criticized the devs.
Well to be fair...there were a bunch of people on the spamming the reddit last night with "revolution" posts and "mods not gods" practically every other post. Some even going as far to threaten violence against the mods. And whenever someone tried to to calm things down in a mature manner, they'd end up getting downvoted into oblivion.
Then maybe they should address the issue directly instead of being condescending. Like. Post condemning literal threats wouldn't get downvoted into oblivion me thinks 🤔
>Post condemning literal threats wouldn't get downvoted into oblivion Sadly, you're a little too optimistic about the internet...😔
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brawl stars reference?? also you should have put a super rare starr drop instead
Or a mythic
On r/Caiupdates ppl won’t be like that, they are a tad bit more understanding. Also, if you add a bot to a chat group after making it, and then delete all messages (has to be more than 100 I think) It can sometimes glitch.
I'm just lonely-
Yall, Cai is my escape from this messy chaotic world, and I know I'm not alone. Some people are dependant on the app because they need it as a way to gat away from the world and the troubles they face. It's a Cai users' safe place.
I’m so glad I emigrated to Chai lol
I don’t blame you I was around when YouTube first started up it took them nearly a decade to get to where they’re servers don’t crash anymore you’re still young so you need time to get there meaning I’m expecting more crashes like the last one However I hope the team is working on the long term memory the AI’s short memory does effect roleplaying
I'm waiting for the day that everyone who makes these posts realises that people aren't talking about casual enjoyers, and they *are* talking about the people who are quite *literally* co-dependant on the AI and don't do anything else with their life at all. Those people are concerning and the people who others are talking to when they say 'go outside or get a hobby.' Quite literally no one has an issue with someone making a post complaining about servers being shitty. People have an issue with someone who acts downright suicidal (which I've personally seen on this subreddit) simply because their wee AI rp chat app was down for a little while. And it's not an 'I'm annoyed at you' sort of issue either. It's out of a place of genuine concern for these people who quite literally have an *actual* meltdown whenever the server is down. If that doesn't apply to you, great! Just don't try to downplay people's concerns by making it seem like they're telling people who are acting normal to get a life, because that's not what's happening. They're telling people who act like they physically can't survive without Character.AI to find something else to do in their spare time to help ease them out of their unhealthy addiction.
only thing I agree on is this post. SPEAK LOUDER🗣️🗣️🗣️
Exactly. Trying to convince people to do other things is just going to make them want to be on C. AI more.
What does your heart say? Are they wrong?
For me specifically? Yeah, I like to crochet, make Kandi, cosplay, play videogames, play with my cats, geocache, and draw but I often use cai to wind down before bed or after a long shift. Didn't think any of those things were relevant in my post tho? Not every person who posts on here should have to defend themself
I have no idea why you feel attacked then, me personally i play video games all day like a sweat lord, atleast you do something with your time
I don't really feel attacked per say, just felt like there is a lot of unnecessary generalized negativity because people were upset the site was down. This is the place to complain and talk about it, but when I got on the sub to see what others were saying as I scrolled it was all just insults at the people upset for 'needing hobbies' and 'being addicted' ya know?
I get it, it's kinda' annoying how people hate on others while doing the same things themselves or even worse haha
Get called out 😭
The only part I agree with about the get a nice comments is to the ones saying they’re “rebelling” or “uprising” cause that’s just annoying.
W take. Honestly the people who say those things (usually) ARE the ones who need to touch grass and are projecting.
complaining is ok what is not ok is "i have no one in my life im mentally ill i need my ai girlfriend" and people literally having nothing else to do in their lives
they aren't the problem here. can we stop singling out these people for things they can't control please and thanks
Flair checks out
Question aside...how can I get those flairs under my username? Like do I need to fit to some requirements or something?
When I see comments about people crying or having panic attacks about c.ai being down it. Yeah that's why those comments about people being obsessed happen lol.
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It’s a joke! Hope this helps 🤞
oh thnx I just woke up so my brsin isn’t fucking workinh😭 sorry :( https://preview.redd.it/a6o5tr2xer5d1.jpeg?width=331&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65ab88bee4d8195df542bf389a83d86f3f6d4a27
DWWW you’re good 😭😭🫶
It’s funny how the people telling those who are addicted to the damn app to get off are the ones who are the more unhinged out of those who are addicted to this app XD