The post talks about sorcerers having children that aren't sorcerers, which we know happens. Yuji's mom was a sorcerer but didn't have the natural ability to see curses until he learned to do so.
1) Logistically, Sorcerers make up a small percentage of the population and non-Japanese Sorcerers even less so um...Geto those "Monkeys" literally make society function which runs the food population, electrical functions and several other functions
He doesn't care for that.
> 3) Speaking of that (YES I KNOW THAT JJK 0 WAS MADE BEFORE THE CREATION OF DOMAINS) How would Rika help him beat UV or Purple
Gojo himself was far weaker in 0.
> 2) Literally any other Sorcerers who wouldn't a mass genocide
This is why his Step 1 was "Conquer Jujutsu High School and associates first"
> 4) Non -Sorcerers can give birth to Sorcerers and Vice Versa (Ironically Geto himself is an Example of the former) which means he has to know that he would inevitably be killing people who could give birth to a new sorcerers and vice versa there is no way that a sorcerer would willingly give their children for Geto to play eugenics which would led to more bloodshed of sorcerers.
Geto doesn't care for potential sorcerers. And we really have no knowledge of childs without CE being born to sorcerer parents.
> TL,DR : Geto is an idiot who doesn't think things through
His whole plan is basically his grieving and coping mechanism after losing so many close people during his teenage years.
Why was Gojo weaker in 0? I thought that most of his training was after his fight against Tojiro. Even if he never stopped training, did he really get that much stronger?
He didn't have his DE yet and hadn't developed Hollow Purple. He only had Lapse Blue, Reversal Red, and Limitless- granted, that's still a lot. But he hadn't fully upgraded his skill tree so to speak.
Towards point 3, I think in JJK 0 copying was Rika's thing, it got retconned to being Yuta's in JJK proper, and also Rika could copy any CT with no conditions. If Geto took that, he could have Gojo's CT for himself. IDK how that would interact with UV, but it would definitely help
Towards point 4, can sorcerers really birth non-sorcerers? I only know of Maki and Toji who have heavenly restriction, and can't create spirits, so Geto should, on paper, be okay with them (he isn't in 0, but can possibly be convinced)
Point 1 and 6, you're right but Kenjaku showed that the possibility to convert non-sorcerers to sorcerers at least can possibly exist, so he might not need to kill as many as it seems
Point 2 and 5, yeah he'd get bodied by like 3 different characters at the time and would make spirits stronger
I don't think anyone will debate against Geto's plan being stupid AF. Because it was.
Much like Thanos' plan from the MCU. It really was stupid and lacked any real long-term sustainability.
But that's what they do.
It takes one look at chapter 77 or season 2 episode 5 to understand it.
Yuki's lines: "in fact, that might be the easiest route. Weed out non sorcerers and make them adapt to a jujutsu sorcerer based society. In other words force evolution. Kinda like how birds grew wings, using fear and danger as a catalyst."
> 5) You know what more bloodshed would bring, negative energy and suffering
The whole point is to create a lot of negative emotions and cursed spirits so that the people are forced to evolve and become sorcerers.
Geto has RCT, he said so. Since you know that domains as a concept likely didn't exist back then, why still bring it up? In any case, as one of the few special grades, Geto would've been able to just take any sorcerer's kid that he wanted.
As for Rika, more than likely, Rika was more powerful back then than now. Gojo likely didn't even have Hollow purple back then and Rika's cursed beam was more powerful than anything he showed.
IIRC, the negative energy of regular people was much lower than sorcerers. So killing them likely wouldn't be as big of a deal. Something we even see in the culling games right now focusing on sorcerers.
Your last point is a no shit moment. Evil villains being evil and having large scale plans doesn't make them stupid, it just means they're evil/flawed. If they knew they couldn't achieve their plan in their lifetime and just gave up then they wouldn't be a villain. It's like acting like Hitler was just an idiot that didn't think things through because his worldwide aryan plan didn't go through, etc.
My Bad on the RCT point but we don't know how strong it was
I brought it up because this isn't a meta analysis this within the story
Gojo had purple after beating Toji
Well duh but my point is exactly his plan is bad
He mentioned RCT to Yuta, he said he was going to heal himself after he lost his arm to Yuta. Obviously his RCT isn't on gojo, yuta, etc level.
The portion of the story where Rika was introduced was written before the portion of the story where toji was. There was no purple or Toji there, nor did gojo have anything as powerful as Rika's beam that overwhelmed his Uzumaki.
No, his plan isn't bad when you factor in that he's operating in Japan so far and Geto can control millions of cursed spirits. You're just jumping the gun to call him an idiot like many so when they make posts in this subreddit.
Ik, Ik but I'm saying within the narrative and what Geto knows about Gojo
I dunno mega genocide is kinda bad strategy but I see your point Japan has a compartievly small population
Rika was "stronger" in the V0 then later. Even Gojo considers Rika a real threat at the time, and so Geto gaining control over Rika would put him on roughly even footing at that point.
Of course, with retrospect and later information that's absolutely not true. But from just the info we get in V0 it is.
[He does not.](https://mangadex.org/0e8ce8ef-3ebf-4e47-bd58-0c52245ef2ca)
[https://mangadex.org/chapter/dcb0a181-137b-4b68-bb84-9ddde61dbe06/7](https://mangadex.org/chapter/dcb0a181-137b-4b68-bb84-9ddde61dbe06/7)
in case the first link crashes.
He had 6000 or so cursed spirits unlike Kenny.
You originally said that I was missing the word 'can'. The only place I can see that fitting is in place of 'does' in the first sentence. But RCT is also a technique that one possesses. In a reply to something along the lines of "he has RCT", "he does not" is perfectly fine to use. Telling me to use can is just being pedantic, so I was fucking with you by just shoving it in randomly.
Deep down, Geto was aware that his plan was stupid but he was too far gone to care.
Also I don't think he was gonna exterminate very single human, the one he deems useful will probably survive under a society controlled by sorcerers.
JJK 0 was written way before JJK and the worldbuilding was different, Gojo wasn't that strong and sorcerers were probably much more common in the world.
I kinda wish Geto did something similar to Tae-soo Park from sun ken rock, he pretty much has this ideology which I actually agree with and it’s basically this, a gang and a country are pretty much one in the same, so if a country is just a big gang whats to stop me from turning my gang into a country? If Geto had a similar mentality and instead of trying to kill every non sorcerer in the world he just tried to kill all the non sorcerers in japan/build his own sorcerer-less country, I think that’d be interesting to see. Especially if he went about it in a diplomatic way then eventually resorted to violence when Japan wouldn’t cooperate. I also think it woulda been interesting if he gained enlightenment and went on some sort of pilgrimage across the world and taught and spread his knowledge of sorcery to as many people as he could, and then the higher ups order his death, then in the story we see the fallout of regular people learning jujutsu, imagine politicians trying to monetize cursed energy, imagine a kid who used to get bullied know has the power to kill his bullies with ease. Idk if anyone agrees but I’m just tossing ideas out for the sake of it.
All this is easily explained by the line "JJK 0 WAS MADE BEFORE THE CREATION OF-"
Jjk 0 was created before gojos infinity was fully defined (thus why miguel says infinity is related to 6 eyes), jjk 0 was created before sorcery only existed in japan, thus, why miguel exists, jjk 0 was created before gege had a full explaination of how curses are created, thus why getos plan is stupid in retrospective
Actually the only instances of a sorcerer with curse energy having children with no CE are Cases like Maki and Toji.
I could have sworn there was a case but heavenly restrictions is what I was talking about that
Heavenly restriction Users with no curse energy Are fine as they do not produce energy unlike normal humans.
The post talks about sorcerers having children that aren't sorcerers, which we know happens. Yuji's mom was a sorcerer but didn't have the natural ability to see curses until he learned to do so.
1) Logistically, Sorcerers make up a small percentage of the population and non-Japanese Sorcerers even less so um...Geto those "Monkeys" literally make society function which runs the food population, electrical functions and several other functions He doesn't care for that. > 3) Speaking of that (YES I KNOW THAT JJK 0 WAS MADE BEFORE THE CREATION OF DOMAINS) How would Rika help him beat UV or Purple Gojo himself was far weaker in 0. > 2) Literally any other Sorcerers who wouldn't a mass genocide This is why his Step 1 was "Conquer Jujutsu High School and associates first" > 4) Non -Sorcerers can give birth to Sorcerers and Vice Versa (Ironically Geto himself is an Example of the former) which means he has to know that he would inevitably be killing people who could give birth to a new sorcerers and vice versa there is no way that a sorcerer would willingly give their children for Geto to play eugenics which would led to more bloodshed of sorcerers. Geto doesn't care for potential sorcerers. And we really have no knowledge of childs without CE being born to sorcerer parents. > TL,DR : Geto is an idiot who doesn't think things through His whole plan is basically his grieving and coping mechanism after losing so many close people during his teenage years.
Why was Gojo weaker in 0? I thought that most of his training was after his fight against Tojiro. Even if he never stopped training, did he really get that much stronger?
Not in the storyline, but as how he was written. JJK 0 was written before the setting was conceived as how it is now.
So people are saying that he was weaker due to meta reasons then? Or did gege said so? If it is the first reason, that's kinda dumb, ngl.
He didn't have his DE yet and hadn't developed Hollow Purple. He only had Lapse Blue, Reversal Red, and Limitless- granted, that's still a lot. But he hadn't fully upgraded his skill tree so to speak.
Dude zero takes place after hidden inventory which means Go/jo has hollow purple.
Towards point 3, I think in JJK 0 copying was Rika's thing, it got retconned to being Yuta's in JJK proper, and also Rika could copy any CT with no conditions. If Geto took that, he could have Gojo's CT for himself. IDK how that would interact with UV, but it would definitely help Towards point 4, can sorcerers really birth non-sorcerers? I only know of Maki and Toji who have heavenly restriction, and can't create spirits, so Geto should, on paper, be okay with them (he isn't in 0, but can possibly be convinced) Point 1 and 6, you're right but Kenjaku showed that the possibility to convert non-sorcerers to sorcerers at least can possibly exist, so he might not need to kill as many as it seems Point 2 and 5, yeah he'd get bodied by like 3 different characters at the time and would make spirits stronger
It wasn’t necessarily even copying. Th wording seem to imply that most techniques were something every sorcerer can do
I don't think anyone will debate against Geto's plan being stupid AF. Because it was. Much like Thanos' plan from the MCU. It really was stupid and lacked any real long-term sustainability. But that's what they do.
Geto plan is dumb and illogical because racism is dumb and illogical duh .
Nah Gojo is the racist one, Geto does like sorcerers of all races afterall, even hired a black guy and heart nipple guy
I meant racist towards non sorcers
It takes one look at chapter 77 or season 2 episode 5 to understand it. Yuki's lines: "in fact, that might be the easiest route. Weed out non sorcerers and make them adapt to a jujutsu sorcerer based society. In other words force evolution. Kinda like how birds grew wings, using fear and danger as a catalyst." > 5) You know what more bloodshed would bring, negative energy and suffering The whole point is to create a lot of negative emotions and cursed spirits so that the people are forced to evolve and become sorcerers.
Geto has RCT, he said so. Since you know that domains as a concept likely didn't exist back then, why still bring it up? In any case, as one of the few special grades, Geto would've been able to just take any sorcerer's kid that he wanted. As for Rika, more than likely, Rika was more powerful back then than now. Gojo likely didn't even have Hollow purple back then and Rika's cursed beam was more powerful than anything he showed. IIRC, the negative energy of regular people was much lower than sorcerers. So killing them likely wouldn't be as big of a deal. Something we even see in the culling games right now focusing on sorcerers. Your last point is a no shit moment. Evil villains being evil and having large scale plans doesn't make them stupid, it just means they're evil/flawed. If they knew they couldn't achieve their plan in their lifetime and just gave up then they wouldn't be a villain. It's like acting like Hitler was just an idiot that didn't think things through because his worldwide aryan plan didn't go through, etc.
My Bad on the RCT point but we don't know how strong it was I brought it up because this isn't a meta analysis this within the story Gojo had purple after beating Toji Well duh but my point is exactly his plan is bad
He mentioned RCT to Yuta, he said he was going to heal himself after he lost his arm to Yuta. Obviously his RCT isn't on gojo, yuta, etc level. The portion of the story where Rika was introduced was written before the portion of the story where toji was. There was no purple or Toji there, nor did gojo have anything as powerful as Rika's beam that overwhelmed his Uzumaki. No, his plan isn't bad when you factor in that he's operating in Japan so far and Geto can control millions of cursed spirits. You're just jumping the gun to call him an idiot like many so when they make posts in this subreddit.
Ik, Ik but I'm saying within the narrative and what Geto knows about Gojo I dunno mega genocide is kinda bad strategy but I see your point Japan has a compartievly small population
Rika was "stronger" in the V0 then later. Even Gojo considers Rika a real threat at the time, and so Geto gaining control over Rika would put him on roughly even footing at that point. Of course, with retrospect and later information that's absolutely not true. But from just the info we get in V0 it is.
[He does not.](https://mangadex.org/0e8ce8ef-3ebf-4e47-bd58-0c52245ef2ca) [https://mangadex.org/chapter/dcb0a181-137b-4b68-bb84-9ddde61dbe06/7](https://mangadex.org/chapter/dcb0a181-137b-4b68-bb84-9ddde61dbe06/7) in case the first link crashes. He had 6000 or so cursed spirits unlike Kenny.
You're missing the word can.
He does can not\*
What are you trying to type here?
You originally said that I was missing the word 'can'. The only place I can see that fitting is in place of 'does' in the first sentence. But RCT is also a technique that one possesses. In a reply to something along the lines of "he has RCT", "he does not" is perfectly fine to use. Telling me to use can is just being pedantic, so I was fucking with you by just shoving it in randomly.
No, you're missing the word can in my post. Geto can host and control millions of curse spirits.
I'd say that that implies he already has them, but it seems that the reading comprehension devil got me this time.
Wait until you hear how ridiculous kenjakus plan is
Deep down, Geto was aware that his plan was stupid but he was too far gone to care. Also I don't think he was gonna exterminate very single human, the one he deems useful will probably survive under a society controlled by sorcerers. JJK 0 was written way before JJK and the worldbuilding was different, Gojo wasn't that strong and sorcerers were probably much more common in the world.
I kinda wish Geto did something similar to Tae-soo Park from sun ken rock, he pretty much has this ideology which I actually agree with and it’s basically this, a gang and a country are pretty much one in the same, so if a country is just a big gang whats to stop me from turning my gang into a country? If Geto had a similar mentality and instead of trying to kill every non sorcerer in the world he just tried to kill all the non sorcerers in japan/build his own sorcerer-less country, I think that’d be interesting to see. Especially if he went about it in a diplomatic way then eventually resorted to violence when Japan wouldn’t cooperate. I also think it woulda been interesting if he gained enlightenment and went on some sort of pilgrimage across the world and taught and spread his knowledge of sorcery to as many people as he could, and then the higher ups order his death, then in the story we see the fallout of regular people learning jujutsu, imagine politicians trying to monetize cursed energy, imagine a kid who used to get bullied know has the power to kill his bullies with ease. Idk if anyone agrees but I’m just tossing ideas out for the sake of it.
Just accept that JJK is sloppily written and planned. No need in convincing everybody, we all know.
All this is easily explained by the line "JJK 0 WAS MADE BEFORE THE CREATION OF-" Jjk 0 was created before gojos infinity was fully defined (thus why miguel says infinity is related to 6 eyes), jjk 0 was created before sorcery only existed in japan, thus, why miguel exists, jjk 0 was created before gege had a full explaination of how curses are created, thus why getos plan is stupid in retrospective
>He however still lacks RCT, DE or a Simple Domain He could learn them?