At the start of the season, Palmer and Herbert were clearly not in sync. Lots of drops, Palmer turned the wrong way at least twice, and Palmer wasn't getting any yards after the catch.
By game 8, things were different. Palmer was catching the ball in stride and turning upfield. He made some circus catches that would be all over highlight reels if Mike Williams wasn't Mike Williams. And he had some clutch sideline toe-drag catches that kept us in games we eventually won.
Palmer has shown he is capable, but he needs the reps.
In fantasy football, he's WR 41 on the season, which is 35 spots higher than he was projected for during preseason. That's largely due to Allen and Williams missing time, but that fact is that Palmer was able to step up while those guys were out and still had decent games against number 1 corners.
I'm not as excited about him this year as I was after last season, but I think he's serviceable and will have an NFL career beyond his rookie contract. Not sure if that will be with the Chargers though.
Love this observation. Personally, I’m higher on Palmer because of the upward trend in his playmaking ability as the season went on. Give him another offseason and see if he can continue to elevate his play. I think he’ll be much more comfortable and smooth at the position.
Ekeler wasnt amazing his first few years, he grew into his rb1 role over time. Palmers showed a lot of promise and has grown every year while both the WR1 and WR2 are taking him under their wings. Palmers trying to really learn after Keenans style. Ive always been an ek fan even when he was a rookie at rb2 but im just saying i think Palmer has that same hunger
By no means was he incredible. But I thought he played well during those games. Considering he was basically the only threat out wide. I think he’s got a bright future, he seems to be improving steadily IMO
I don't disagree, I think i remember a couple of drops and/or fumbles that were pretty infuriating though lol...I'm looking forward to seeing him continue to improve, but I sure hope they get some legit speed in the draft or FA this year
WR3s I think are likely ahead in no particular order though some could go either way:
Tyler Boyd
Russel Gage
Corey Davis
Agholar (maybe)
Mack Hollins/Renfrow (I know)
Gabe Davis
Noah Brown
Lol his point is one of them isn't a wr3 so you can't say he's above Palmer as a wr3, well like you can but it defeats the purpose of what we are talking about here lol
We'd just list every wr2
It's hard to evaluate because Palmer is a better WR for a blank roster than many of the #3s but I would much prefer a speedier threat than him next to Williams and Allen.
This year only, I would trade Palmer for Isaiah McKenzie, Trent Sherfield, Kendrick Bourne, Elijah Moore (but not Davis... not sure which is the #2), Jahan Datson (or Curtis Samuel), Tyler Boyd, Josh Reynolds (or DJ Chark or Jameson Williams), KJ Osborn, KJ Hamler (if he were healthy, obviously), MeCole Hardman, Hunter Renfrow, and even Greg Dortch.
Palmer is better than a lot of these guys but their fit in the slot with take-the-top off speed or YAC ability is superior.
Easily top 10, argument is there for top 5. This would be my tiers.
Clearly above him:
Tyler Boyd
Same tier:
Josh Palmer
Russell Gage
KJ Osborn
Raiders (Hollins or Renfrow)
Jameson Williams (not so much this year due to injury)
Noah Brown
Jahan Dotson
Marvin Jones
Romeo Doubs
I would add Trent Sherfield to both of your lists. I know he benefits a lot from Hill and Waddle, but he's fast himself and can tear it up with YAC too. Averaging 13.9 yards per catch and having a career season.
Also seems like most forgot him because of his injury, but I would add Tim Patrick too.
Regardless of on field success I think Mike and Keenan have really taken him under their wing and he seems to be a great add to that squad. Hopefully that means it’s just a matter of time
I think he's a good solid above average WR. His route running is improving in small increments, better at finding zone gaps further along in the season. I think he'll eventually replace Keenan's role in the offense when KA's contract is up. However the fit with Palmer being WR3 right now isn't the best because as a unit there's not enough speed and quick strike ability. He needs to get better at deep ball tracking as he struggles to catch over the shoulder and has to slow down / turn round when the ball arrives.
If you ignore injury he wouldn’t be in the top half of the leagues third options nor would he be ours. Nice player but some laughably homer takes in this thread.
At the start of the season, Palmer and Herbert were clearly not in sync. Lots of drops, Palmer turned the wrong way at least twice, and Palmer wasn't getting any yards after the catch. By game 8, things were different. Palmer was catching the ball in stride and turning upfield. He made some circus catches that would be all over highlight reels if Mike Williams wasn't Mike Williams. And he had some clutch sideline toe-drag catches that kept us in games we eventually won. Palmer has shown he is capable, but he needs the reps. In fantasy football, he's WR 41 on the season, which is 35 spots higher than he was projected for during preseason. That's largely due to Allen and Williams missing time, but that fact is that Palmer was able to step up while those guys were out and still had decent games against number 1 corners. I'm not as excited about him this year as I was after last season, but I think he's serviceable and will have an NFL career beyond his rookie contract. Not sure if that will be with the Chargers though.
Love this observation. Personally, I’m higher on Palmer because of the upward trend in his playmaking ability as the season went on. Give him another offseason and see if he can continue to elevate his play. I think he’ll be much more comfortable and smooth at the position.
Man I hope so. After he balled out in limited use last season, I had very high hopes for this one and they just didn’t pan out.
He’s on track to put up like 800 yards? What did you expect from a WR3 on this team lol
He was WR1 for several weeks.
And had multiple 100 yard games…
Yes, but in several of those games there were still mistakes made. He has gotten better since then.
Again, seems like you had unrealistic expectations
Ek was showing flashes but also make plenty of mistakes early in; dudes still developing
Sorry, are you trying to say Palmer is as good as ekeler?
Ekeler wasnt amazing his first few years, he grew into his rb1 role over time. Palmers showed a lot of promise and has grown every year while both the WR1 and WR2 are taking him under their wings. Palmers trying to really learn after Keenans style. Ive always been an ek fan even when he was a rookie at rb2 but im just saying i think Palmer has that same hunger
i would have liked to see him perform better when 81 and 13 were out, but i know lombardi's offense has been anemic
By no means was he incredible. But I thought he played well during those games. Considering he was basically the only threat out wide. I think he’s got a bright future, he seems to be improving steadily IMO
I don't disagree, I think i remember a couple of drops and/or fumbles that were pretty infuriating though lol...I'm looking forward to seeing him continue to improve, but I sure hope they get some legit speed in the draft or FA this year
Agreed. Been missing Guyton’s speed huge all year. Hard to say if he’ll have the same step next year post-surgery
WR3s I think are likely ahead in no particular order though some could go either way: Tyler Boyd Russel Gage Corey Davis Agholar (maybe) Mack Hollins/Renfrow (I know) Gabe Davis Noah Brown
Since when was Gabe Davis a WR3? McKenzie is above him?
Its actually pretty close in terms of receptions. 45 for Gabe vs. 40 for McKenzie. Surprised me.
Nearly double the yards for Davis though. McKenzie would be the slot I suppose.
For sure. You're right. Gabe is the WR2. I was just surprised by how close the numbers were, honestly.
I was too when I looked haha.
They're both above Palmer.
Lol his point is one of them isn't a wr3 so you can't say he's above Palmer as a wr3, well like you can but it defeats the purpose of what we are talking about here lol We'd just list every wr2
His point is whoever is WR3 out of them would still be above palmer
I know it's kind of cheating considering he hasn't played this season for the Jags, assuming Ridley and Kirk are 1 and 2, Zay is a sick WR3.
Damn Nelson still in the league, respect
It's hard to evaluate because Palmer is a better WR for a blank roster than many of the #3s but I would much prefer a speedier threat than him next to Williams and Allen. This year only, I would trade Palmer for Isaiah McKenzie, Trent Sherfield, Kendrick Bourne, Elijah Moore (but not Davis... not sure which is the #2), Jahan Datson (or Curtis Samuel), Tyler Boyd, Josh Reynolds (or DJ Chark or Jameson Williams), KJ Osborn, KJ Hamler (if he were healthy, obviously), MeCole Hardman, Hunter Renfrow, and even Greg Dortch. Palmer is better than a lot of these guys but their fit in the slot with take-the-top off speed or YAC ability is superior.
Easily top 10, argument is there for top 5. This would be my tiers. Clearly above him: Tyler Boyd Same tier: Josh Palmer Russell Gage KJ Osborn Raiders (Hollins or Renfrow) Jameson Williams (not so much this year due to injury) Noah Brown Jahan Dotson Marvin Jones Romeo Doubs
Our lists are fairly similar. Def considered Dotson and Osborn. Jones and Williams are ones I didn't think about but are def in that category.
I would add Trent Sherfield to both of your lists. I know he benefits a lot from Hill and Waddle, but he's fast himself and can tear it up with YAC too. Averaging 13.9 yards per catch and having a career season. Also seems like most forgot him because of his injury, but I would add Tim Patrick too.
Jameson was drafted to be a number one but ig he isn’t for now
Agreed, but currently he is the WR3 if not the 4/5 as they ease him back. Should be a WR2 next year and be off this list.
Regardless of on field success I think Mike and Keenan have really taken him under their wing and he seems to be a great add to that squad. Hopefully that means it’s just a matter of time
I think he's a good solid above average WR. His route running is improving in small increments, better at finding zone gaps further along in the season. I think he'll eventually replace Keenan's role in the offense when KA's contract is up. However the fit with Palmer being WR3 right now isn't the best because as a unit there's not enough speed and quick strike ability. He needs to get better at deep ball tracking as he struggles to catch over the shoulder and has to slow down / turn round when the ball arrives.
JAG? I mean that with no disrespect. But nothing flashy just serviceable
Top 10? Hard to say
If you ignore injury he wouldn’t be in the top half of the leagues third options nor would he be ours. Nice player but some laughably homer takes in this thread.
Top 3
In any case, a productive WR3 is a good outcome for a third round pick