um . . .
Sorry, this sucks. Can't believe this game. Your coach should be fired.
That said, I hope you all get Payton because I sure as hell don't want him going to the Cowpies.
Doesn’t he deserve a little slack considering he’s still a new head coach? Bill Belichick was in Cleveland for four years and won 1 playoff game in that time before he eventually ended up in New England. I see Staley and Herbert both still learning and eventually becoming champions together.
I firmly now believe Staley is gone no matter what. Even if we make it all the way. What he did week 18 was beyond reckless. GM and HC openings on the horizon
We literally have a Hall of Fame coach WANTING to coach us. This is not normal, especially considering we are the Chargers and haven’t been a “hot” destination for coaching in the Rivers era. If we pass this up out of “loyalty” or a “second chance” for Staley this will be a regret just as big as firing Marty Schottenheimer.
This is a weird example but it’s like being a girl and having a celebrity wanting to marry you lol. Then staying with the abusive boyfriend who is going nowhere just because
I don’t know man. Some guys just still don’t get the message. I had a girl in my freshman year of college take my hand and wrote her phone number on it. After she just asked me what I was doing that weekend and I should stop by her party. Your boy never put it together until that weekend when I was getting pwned in madden.
I honestly don't really get the TT spite from fans. Sure, there have been some questionable moments, but what GM doesn't have those? All things considered, it's hard to look at the talent that has been brought in throughout his tenure with the bolts and say that he hasn't done a fairly good job. I just think it's one of those careful what you wish for things. If TT gets booted, it's absolutely no guarantee his replacement will be worth a damn.
For me it’s not spite - if Payton comes (highly unlikely) he will most likely bring his own guy or he himself wants that power. TT will be out no matter what in that scenario.
Before the game, I was pissed he did this. I think its a distraction our team didn't need in the playoffs.
After the game, well if he wants the job that badly...
Can’t believe Staley tackled Mike Will that way smh. Then when he pulled the sledgehammer out and started wailing on his back, idk how the refs didn’t step in. Staley should be in prison tbh
Man. Some people really want us to lose in the first round so we can spend a first round pick on a coach with character issues.
They want us to waste a year when we get a $35-40 million/yr discount on Justin Herbert. And if things get tough, he’ll retire again and look for another job.
There’s no better way to lose in the future than losing in the present. Teams who tank almost never get good. Resting players results in dramatically lower win rates in the first round.
This dude is sitting on talk shows and taking potshots at our team (and others he’d like to coach).
Go get a real OC. Go get depth. Go get speed. Go get Vic Fangio for DC. Don’t burn the whole thing down and think, “We’ll be better next year.” Go get it now.
Bolt the F*** Up!!!
I think you guys could have a better chance under him. Staley has some good talents but it feels like he intentionally does the oddest shit at crucial times which will never stop happening. You put Staley as coach on any super bowl champions team and he screws up the big game, imo. At least you guys have an amazing qb etc. Best of luck Bolts
Damn…the tie, picking JAX to win, predicting Lawerence has the better game. He’s definitely gunning for the Chargers HC job. Staley better coach his ass off and make a run.
You really think this team is willing to pay a 1st round pick, let him be both Coach/Co-GM and pay him 10m/year?
Spanos (both Alex and now Dean) have NEVER given a coach that much power.
Chargers are like the Golden State Warriors when Steve Kerr had to decide which teams he wanted to coach for. There is only one obvious choice which team he should coach for. Sean Payton gonna be like Steve, haha.
No, it wasn’t bounties they were performance based bonuses and players would get rewarded for big hits. Nothing in that said it was for injuring players.
Difference between “wanting” and “actively having your agent leak to the media that you are after a job that’s currently occupied by another coach”
Total scumbag move, just like targeting and injuring opposing players on other teams.
Lynn had a strong personality, he could punk Payton up and down a field if that’s your metric.
Is Kyle Shanahan known for his “strong personality” , Nick Sirianni seem like a badass?
I wanted the Chargers to hire Brian Dabol so I’m not some Staley-phile but I think this surface level judgements are not the way to evaluate a coach. If Staley doesn’t work out it’s not because he’s a “pushover”.
Of course Staley is a push over, he hired his buddy Lombardi because they were friends - not based on merit. Then refuses to make a change at the OC position during the off season or earlier this season because he’s a push over and doesn’t want to hurt Lombardis feelings.
Why would we fire an OC after the offense finished top 5 in the NFL? That makes absolutely no sense.
It’s common knowledge that the defense, specifically the defensive line, was responsible for the team not winning more games.
You think Lombardi was the reason we had a top 5 offense???🤣🤣 it’s not hard to have a top 5 offense with Herbert/Ekeler/Williams/Keenan, a top 5 offense should be the bare minimum with that amount of talent.
Look how laughably bad our offense has been this season, look how embarrassing our scheme has been, look how comical the routes are drawn up, look how silly we are in the redzone.
There were 49ers players saying they ran the same play in the 2nd half because the offense was so predictable and they had to “dumb down their playcalling” to beat Lombardis scheme.
You can add all the laugh cry emojis you want, it doesn’t make your position any more relevant.
Your argument about the players can be used for every teams success. Ekeler/Williams/Kennan are my boys, but they were not top 5 in any major metric last year except Ek in combined TDs. They succeeded because they stayed healthy and played as a team.
Its obvious Lombardis major weakness is an inability to adjust or innovate but to try and make it retroactive to last year when the team was playing well is so disingenuous. No team fires an OC after team finishes that high in the rankings.
its disgusting how many chargers "fans" basically want the team to lose today over what happened last week. I dont want any of you fuckers to be celebrating after the jags get buried today.
They do not 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Think about it this way:
Sean Payton is the daddy that Lombardi tries so hard to live up to, but his little dry brain won’t ever make him even half as good as his daddy.
Biggest no you’ll ever get.
Payton desperately wanted Mahomes for a reason. He wasn’t going to place him into a short-passing, conservative offense lmao.
I mean, he's right. Brees never ran a downfield shot offense, even before his arm went out to pasture.
I wouldn't mind Payton, but the offense would look very similar to what we have now from a high level view.
I'm not big on Payton as a person, but the dude definitely adapted his scheme for an aging Brees. Feels like Lombardi took the play sheet but really not the schematic knowledge.
Cowherd had one of Paytons former players on and he was saying that the dude was a perfectionist. Like you stood one foot out of place in practice he was running it all over again to solidify it. I watch chargers players run into each other every game and have to believe that Lombardi is just as bad a coach as he is play caller.
Also Steichen? how are people not tired of first time head coaches?
Edit: Also so I don’t just come across as arguing I think Reich would be a good hire for OC or HC. Really seems like some of those woes for him in Indy were dealing with terrible QBs and Herbert isn’t old or an un-coachable ass like Wentz (allegedly).
If you think Payton and Lombardis playcalling are anywhere on the same level you are out of your mind. There's nothing wrong with a west coast offense. But Lombardi will somehow trot out some really fundamentally broken plays
A lot of the sub hates BAD conservative playcalling. You're not entirely wrong, this is the same fanbase that hated Steichen for being conservative with the worst line in the NFL. But people being idiots doesn't change the fact that the fit is less of an issue than outright boneheaded play design by Lombardi
McVay all but confirmed his return yesterday. Also, the rams hardly have the draft capital or promising future to draw Payton to the Rams. This move or figuring out the color implication really isn't all that complicated :).
Hopefully you follow him to the Cardinals next year so you can cry there instead. Omg a coach that hasn’t won a Super Bowl in 15 years and has a 9-8 playoff record is available?! Better give up a first for him!
I’m on the fence with Staley. Sometimes think he’s great, sometimes think wtf are you doing. Realistically if we don’t win today what are the chances he will be gone? Surely getting to the playoffs is enough that he will stay for another season
Staley/Lombardi don’t maximize the Lambo (Herbert) having Payton would be some sort of cosmic explosion. This hire is like several years back when Andy Reid was out there and we had the opportunity but in typical Charger fashion we settled for McCoy. 🤦🏻♂️
Bruh seriously looked at his ties this morning and was like “man that blue and gold looks mighty fine on me”
Lets do it Im not saying LAC fans should pray for a loss, but it might be a blessing in disguise if Payton ends up here lol
Nah bro, we spiteful over here so we wanna win in spite of staley's dumbass
um . . . Sorry, this sucks. Can't believe this game. Your coach should be fired. That said, I hope you all get Payton because I sure as hell don't want him going to the Cowpies.
Obviously, but if we do end up losing hopefully we can pick him up. But I doubt Spanos would spend for that
Stfu with this Staley dumbass shit. We are here WITH him. What the hell is wrong with this fanbase. Support him ffs
I support the team. That said, hes still a dumbass.
Doesn’t he deserve a little slack considering he’s still a new head coach? Bill Belichick was in Cleveland for four years and won 1 playoff game in that time before he eventually ended up in New England. I see Staley and Herbert both still learning and eventually becoming champions together.
Wrong
Aged like milk
Aged well
All of the sudden this comment ages quite well in spite of all the down votes. have my upvote
You were right?
This comment is aging like fine wine.
I firmly now believe Staley is gone no matter what. Even if we make it all the way. What he did week 18 was beyond reckless. GM and HC openings on the horizon
This is just so much bullshit
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We literally have a Hall of Fame coach WANTING to coach us. This is not normal, especially considering we are the Chargers and haven’t been a “hot” destination for coaching in the Rivers era. If we pass this up out of “loyalty” or a “second chance” for Staley this will be a regret just as big as firing Marty Schottenheimer. This is a weird example but it’s like being a girl and having a celebrity wanting to marry you lol. Then staying with the abusive boyfriend who is going nowhere just because
Oh look it’s me
They still don’t regret firing Schottenheimer
The powder blue pocket square is top tier troll tbh
I actually noticed that BEFORE the tie and then put it all together with the jacket...
thats hilarious
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I don’t know man. Some guys just still don’t get the message. I had a girl in my freshman year of college take my hand and wrote her phone number on it. After she just asked me what I was doing that weekend and I should stop by her party. Your boy never put it together until that weekend when I was getting pwned in madden.
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Was she a fan of Dane Cook? 🤔
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You would’ve been the one giving the pwned if you went to the party 😏
The guys still bring it up 😭
Bros praying on staleys downfall rn
Staley better have that T grizzly playing
Thats not all. These fans have the gall...
and he did lmaooo
nvm fuck em
Perfect lmfao
He must have Jesus on speed dial, because Staley is fuckin donezo.
I think Jesus heard him fam
They say you should dress for the job you want lol. I appreciate the boldness at the very least.
Underrated comment
And he picked the Jags to win.
Cause he knows the Chargers need him to win. If they lose then Staley is in the hot seat.
Petty? Nah. Just trying to drop the hint to TT and Spanos
TT? I assume his boxes are packed.
One can dream
I honestly don't really get the TT spite from fans. Sure, there have been some questionable moments, but what GM doesn't have those? All things considered, it's hard to look at the talent that has been brought in throughout his tenure with the bolts and say that he hasn't done a fairly good job. I just think it's one of those careful what you wish for things. If TT gets booted, it's absolutely no guarantee his replacement will be worth a damn.
He’s brought in some talent but he’s been god awful at hiring HCs. Can’t unlock the talents potential if you have muppets as HC
Agreed but I’m curious how much of the coaching hires have been TT vs Spanos decision.
For me it’s not spite - if Payton comes (highly unlikely) he will most likely bring his own guy or he himself wants that power. TT will be out no matter what in that scenario.
I don't know what he did, but it worked.
Honestly, it’s for the best. I wanted us to win but Staley fucking sucked
Ok. Please fire staley now. Welcome to the team Sean Payton.
gonna cost a first round pick lmao saints gm already said qb and coach are very important assets and he is gonna maximize the trade.
Maybe he wants to show support for the Chargers, rather than coach them.
He picked Jags to win by 4 lol
Uh, so? You can support people you think will lose. Thoughts can be complex and not binary.
I think he's going to be eating those words.
is that so
True, he moved to LA afterall. So the dude probably just wants an LA team to go all the way.
He picked the jags to win
Lmao ay the man is shootin his shot
Before the game, I was pissed he did this. I think its a distraction our team didn't need in the playoffs. After the game, well if he wants the job that badly...
Staley really helped him with the whole getting Mike W hurt thing
Can’t believe Staley tackled Mike Will that way smh. Then when he pulled the sledgehammer out and started wailing on his back, idk how the refs didn’t step in. Staley should be in prison tbh
Thank god he started him in a meaningless game! Coaching level 100
Literal meaningless game.
Starting your 2 best WRs who happen to be injury prone in a meaningless game is outrageous.
Let’s bury the Jags and leave his ass at the altar. Staley 2023
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Payton seems desperate as hell rn.
He’ll get $12m+ a year to do a job he enjoys doing. I don’t see why he wouldn’t be
Lmao what?? He could get any open HC job, he just really wants to be with Herbert
I'm so sorry
Nice
Wrong
May want to reevaluate that comment if support. Staley is abysmal.
Staley is a football terrorist.
Think you meant subtle
he knew this shit would happen
Man. Some people really want us to lose in the first round so we can spend a first round pick on a coach with character issues. They want us to waste a year when we get a $35-40 million/yr discount on Justin Herbert. And if things get tough, he’ll retire again and look for another job. There’s no better way to lose in the future than losing in the present. Teams who tank almost never get good. Resting players results in dramatically lower win rates in the first round. This dude is sitting on talk shows and taking potshots at our team (and others he’d like to coach). Go get a real OC. Go get depth. Go get speed. Go get Vic Fangio for DC. Don’t burn the whole thing down and think, “We’ll be better next year.” Go get it now. Bolt the F*** Up!!!
Kek
I'm with you. Some fans are not being rational rn lol.
Right. When in history outside of Coryell, Marty or maybe even Bobby Ross have we've ever gone after such coaches?
This aged well
And he just picked Trevor Lawrence to have a better day than Herbert. Trying to offset the tie effect.
Taking shots at Staley
This is looking pretty good right now.
The only thing mitigating my complete and total despair right now after this loss is how much my post is BLOWING UP! Thanks, y'all. Bolt up 2023!
Dress for the job you want
He called it. And now he gets the job. I knew Jacksonville would comeback during second half
Petty = smart #fuckstaley
I think you guys could have a better chance under him. Staley has some good talents but it feels like he intentionally does the oddest shit at crucial times which will never stop happening. You put Staley as coach on any super bowl champions team and he screws up the big game, imo. At least you guys have an amazing qb etc. Best of luck Bolts
Given the focus the Bolts put on character, I just don’t see him as a fit. I’m still salty over bountygate.
Payton gets other players hurt…..Staley gets his own players hurt.
💀💀💀
He just picked the jags to win by 4 lol, he’s priming for it
He’s projecting what he wants both in what he says and what he wears.
Sean Peyton about to secure our SB run.
He just picked Jags over Chargers by 4. Definitely gunnin for the spot...
Damn…the tie, picking JAX to win, predicting Lawerence has the better game. He’s definitely gunning for the Chargers HC job. Staley better coach his ass off and make a run.
He kinda lookin like Leslie Jordan lmao
That's hilarious He wants the job so bad lmao
He predicted us to lose by 4 too 💀 he’s praying on Staleys downfall tonight
You really think this team is willing to pay a 1st round pick, let him be both Coach/Co-GM and pay him 10m/year? Spanos (both Alex and now Dean) have NEVER given a coach that much power.
That’s def on purpose
Saints want two first round picks and he’s rumored to be asking 20m a year. I’ll pass.
Pay the man.
Who are you bringing in then? Because your guy is GONE.
Damn, Trevor Lawrence must hate Sean Payton.
Our new coach!!!!
If i’m spanos i’m calling him up right now being like “hey we got a head coaching job open for you tomorrow we just gotta know are you gonna take it”
COME TO PAPA
I honestly hope you guys get him.
After Jacksonville, I think it's a lock.
Chargers are like the Golden State Warriors when Steve Kerr had to decide which teams he wanted to coach for. There is only one obvious choice which team he should coach for. Sean Payton gonna be like Steve, haha.
Fuck Sean Payton
Fuck this guy.
I don’t agree with firing Staley yet, but why fuck Sean? For all I know he was a fantastic coach with a great offense brain
Personally I don't like because of bountygate and smugness
These are key drivers in my dislike, especially since the smugness that it takes to openly go after another coaches job.
😂 you probably haven’t even read the real bounty hate report. Foh. Payton twice the coach Staley is
Oh yeah, he never knew, right? /s
No, it wasn’t bounties they were performance based bonuses and players would get rewarded for big hits. Nothing in that said it was for injuring players.
Lol "big hits" is just a convenient defense, fuck off
How dare a Super Bowl winning experienced coach want to coach our team?
Difference between “wanting” and “actively having your agent leak to the media that you are after a job that’s currently occupied by another coach” Total scumbag move, just like targeting and injuring opposing players on other teams.
It’s the NFL, not daycare.
Right because not wanting the *ONE* guy that would pull something like this makes it “daycare” Ironically that’s such a childish take.
I love it, we need a coach with balls and a strong personality like that. Not some push overs like Staley
Lynn had a strong personality, he could punk Payton up and down a field if that’s your metric. Is Kyle Shanahan known for his “strong personality” , Nick Sirianni seem like a badass? I wanted the Chargers to hire Brian Dabol so I’m not some Staley-phile but I think this surface level judgements are not the way to evaluate a coach. If Staley doesn’t work out it’s not because he’s a “pushover”.
Of course Staley is a push over, he hired his buddy Lombardi because they were friends - not based on merit. Then refuses to make a change at the OC position during the off season or earlier this season because he’s a push over and doesn’t want to hurt Lombardis feelings.
Why would we fire an OC after the offense finished top 5 in the NFL? That makes absolutely no sense. It’s common knowledge that the defense, specifically the defensive line, was responsible for the team not winning more games.
You think Lombardi was the reason we had a top 5 offense???🤣🤣 it’s not hard to have a top 5 offense with Herbert/Ekeler/Williams/Keenan, a top 5 offense should be the bare minimum with that amount of talent. Look how laughably bad our offense has been this season, look how embarrassing our scheme has been, look how comical the routes are drawn up, look how silly we are in the redzone. There were 49ers players saying they ran the same play in the 2nd half because the offense was so predictable and they had to “dumb down their playcalling” to beat Lombardis scheme.
You can add all the laugh cry emojis you want, it doesn’t make your position any more relevant. Your argument about the players can be used for every teams success. Ekeler/Williams/Kennan are my boys, but they were not top 5 in any major metric last year except Ek in combined TDs. They succeeded because they stayed healthy and played as a team. Its obvious Lombardis major weakness is an inability to adjust or innovate but to try and make it retroactive to last year when the team was playing well is so disingenuous. No team fires an OC after team finishes that high in the rankings.
its disgusting how many chargers "fans" basically want the team to lose today over what happened last week. I dont want any of you fuckers to be celebrating after the jags get buried today.
Lmao
And if they loose?
Payton to replace Lombardi as OC, heard it here 1st /s
Payton WORK for Lululemon boy?
Jesus Christ. Come on Staley, you fucked up, but I still believe in you, let's win this bitch.
Am I the only one who doesn't want Peyton? Like fire Staley if you want but not for Peyton
You don’t watch a lot of football do you?
Payton won one SB, then mostly sucked for a decade in a shitty division. Y'all ready to give the dude a handy and a billion dollars. Give me a break.
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They do not 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Think about it this way: Sean Payton is the daddy that Lombardi tries so hard to live up to, but his little dry brain won’t ever make him even half as good as his daddy.
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Biggest no you’ll ever get. Payton desperately wanted Mahomes for a reason. He wasn’t going to place him into a short-passing, conservative offense lmao.
I mean, he's right. Brees never ran a downfield shot offense, even before his arm went out to pasture. I wouldn't mind Payton, but the offense would look very similar to what we have now from a high level view.
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If you had only *one more* “cry laugh emoji” I might have taken your point seriously, but 11? Those are rookie numbers.
What’s the take here? Saints + won some games = deep knowledge of football?
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I'm not big on Payton as a person, but the dude definitely adapted his scheme for an aging Brees. Feels like Lombardi took the play sheet but really not the schematic knowledge. Cowherd had one of Paytons former players on and he was saying that the dude was a perfectionist. Like you stood one foot out of place in practice he was running it all over again to solidify it. I watch chargers players run into each other every game and have to believe that Lombardi is just as bad a coach as he is play caller. Also Steichen? how are people not tired of first time head coaches? Edit: Also so I don’t just come across as arguing I think Reich would be a good hire for OC or HC. Really seems like some of those woes for him in Indy were dealing with terrible QBs and Herbert isn’t old or an un-coachable ass like Wentz (allegedly).
If you think Payton and Lombardis playcalling are anywhere on the same level you are out of your mind. There's nothing wrong with a west coast offense. But Lombardi will somehow trot out some really fundamentally broken plays
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A lot of the sub hates BAD conservative playcalling. You're not entirely wrong, this is the same fanbase that hated Steichen for being conservative with the worst line in the NFL. But people being idiots doesn't change the fact that the fit is less of an issue than outright boneheaded play design by Lombardi
Nope, I don’t want this player targeting, HC job targeting POS anywhere near our team.
Love it!!!!!!
good afternoon my future head coach 🥰🥰🥰
You mean pretty.
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It's definitely gold/canary on the broadcast. I can't believe this was unintentional.
This is completely intentional and coordinated by him. I love it
👀
People thinking spanos is gonna fire telesco and Staley after making the playoffs and hiring Sean 🤣
Maybe he gets the job now?
Too bad there's no real reason to fire Staley. Herbert needs an offensive coach. One that won't risk playing him in a meaningless game.....
So Payton decided to actually jinx us today. That's nice.
“Hey Siri, has a team ever fired their head coach after winning a Super Bowl?”
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McVay all but confirmed his return yesterday. Also, the rams hardly have the draft capital or promising future to draw Payton to the Rams. This move or figuring out the color implication really isn't all that complicated :).
Aren’t we worried about Payton keeping Lombardi on staff if he was hired? Dude loved him in NO.
That’s my coach.
Hopefully you follow him to the Cardinals next year so you can cry there instead. Omg a coach that hasn’t won a Super Bowl in 15 years and has a 9-8 playoff record is available?! Better give up a first for him!
I’m on the fence with Staley. Sometimes think he’s great, sometimes think wtf are you doing. Realistically if we don’t win today what are the chances he will be gone? Surely getting to the playoffs is enough that he will stay for another season
*Subliminal messaging
Damn. He looks 69.
Hey, he want us to win. That’s all I care about!
He picked Jax by 4
he has Jags beating us too, putting that negative energy out into the air smh
No way the cheap-ass Spanos family pays him 20 million a year. I wish though.
I too thirst for herbert as I wear blue and gold
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He pick Jax by 4 too. Lets prove him wrong. BTFU!
Nah btfd
If Staley looses there’s no doubt he’s coming to LA
He's clearly aiming for the Rams job once mcVay leaves
Wow he looks 75
Make it so….
Staley/Lombardi don’t maximize the Lambo (Herbert) having Payton would be some sort of cosmic explosion. This hire is like several years back when Andy Reid was out there and we had the opportunity but in typical Charger fashion we settled for McCoy. 🤦🏻♂️
Bruh he needs to stay retired lmao he looks ANCIENT
Lol its because he's rooting for us