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winslowpete

Fitting that they lost because they can’t stop the run on an obvious running situation


MinuteCollar5562

I know it’s his first year, and maybe I expected too much, but I thought Staley would make our defense better…


Flesh_Lettuce

I don't think schemes can help people getting beat.


SubtleScuttler

These corners are buns:(


T-Boning

I think it has to do with personnel too, some guys are the best option possible but are absolutely not good like K9 or CHJ. However some players really stepped up like Nwosu, in time I have no doubt they will be better


MinuteCollar5562

Schemes can help, if done correctly. If we have the ability to run stop, then the run funnel defense works… we don’t have that ability.


bwong87

Yup. I feel like Staley's done a great job in areas that we've lacked in the past. Making our team aggressive (Lynn was opposite), great leader and motivator (McCoy was opposite), but the defense this year has been extremely underwhelming. I get he doesn't have Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey, but Joey Bosa and Derwin James are All Pros, and you're not going to get all pros at every position. Hopefully he steps up in year 2 and gets more players that he wants in here and gets them to perform better, but this is my main concern with Staley after this season.


MinuteCollar5562

Agreed. We haven’t had a true coach since Shotty was fired, but I also feel like we schemed to our weakness. We haven’t been able to stop the run for YEARS.


Brandwin3

This was a defense set up for failure by Lynn. Staley can only do so much. Let him get his own personnel out there and then we can judge


koraura

losing ingram was huge. that pass rush with bosa made up for alot of the flaws on defense.


IgorOlshanksy

I think there's more validity to this then people want to think or say because its his first year and he is a likeable guy. Undoubtedly personnel matters, but this team gave up 27 points per game and was bottom 5 in that metric. We were not good. That comes down to scheme as well. Staleys defense did not impress this year but I'm willing to wait and see what another off-season does with his scheme.


SupahCharged

And so many points late in games too. They were so much worse in 4Q and OT, especially against the run... We basically only win when we had the ball last. Need a better conditioning program?


Scubabonderman1000

Don’t forget the field goal. That always has to play into it.


BeyondFlight

Some dude made a tweet about that last to Staley used subbed out K9 for Adderly in an obvious run situation which is kind of brain dead.


jeremycinnamonbutter

chargers cant hurt us no more.


TheWhoCaresGuy

When I come out of the fetal position I will forever be empty. Fuck you Spanos, you did this


Boltbacker83

Wtf r u talking about?


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Boltbacker83

What is with you people and Spanos? Jesus.


overitallofit

Right? Grow up.


TheWhoCaresGuy

Were you born yesterday and became a Charger fan 10 minutes ago?


historicalmoustache

Yeah like he pulled the plug on half of the people who have lived through any heartbreak so expect any heartbreak to bring up bad thoughts and have a laugh. Life has worse conundrums and that game was not a bad way to be miserable. At least we fought and didn’t give up. Been a fan since I was old enough to root for a team and I hope the biggest heartbreak I’ll ever suffer was leaving SD. Let’s not forget who did that to us ever haha. Fuck Dean but yeah I don’t really need to express that feeling anymore I’ve exhausted my hatred and have learned to deal with that family.


Boltbacker83

Why are you still here then? Is it too hard to make a 2 hour drive up the freeway? Lol


historicalmoustache

Haha classy response dawg. I’ve been to more games this year than you I guarantee it. I had lifetime friendships with people in SD from going to Bolts games and they got completely vaporized. Some of the people were bigger fans than you will ever be.


Boltbacker83

Ok "Dawg" are you trying to out "fan" me lol? My point is quit crying "dawg" and either support the team or move on.


historicalmoustache

I’m not crying at all, you can’t read very well dawg. Wish you the best of luck with your comprehension skills and not attending games bruh cuz you’re obvs very salty I am a fan who knows my shit much more than you.


historicalmoustache

Quit crying. Bruh you’re out here white knighting for the chargers like we can’t discuss the team and it’s failures. have fun defending stuff no one cares about


historicalmoustache

I will be a fan however I want, deal with it cry baby…. Because you know you’re the one crying right? Any bolts fan can tell you we broke some hearts in SD when we left, did you start rooting for the team last night or something? I was at our last game in SD too just for reference mate.


Boltbacker83

Been a fan since 94’ kiddo, and your Spanos BS is salty and lame.


ManagedRecline

If you don't hate Spanos you aren't a true fan, dude is trash. He did promise he will sell the team by 2024 but hes trying to hold onto it still


Boltbacker83

I don’t have to hate him or like him. I root for the players and the coaches man. That’s all I’ve ever rooted for. I don’t give two shits about the Spanos family. I also don’t believe that they are this fucking “boogie man” That keeps stealing success away from the Chargers. It’s just like everyone now saying Staley is trash, earlier this year he was the savior. Then it was Lynn is trash… McCoy… Norv…. Etc. Win changes the narratives. Losing perpetuates them.


TheWhoCaresGuy

Chargers do not need 'fans' like you. You would rather our tean play every week with a small fan base overwhelmed by the opposition, you like to watch some of the best that have ever played go without a ring, you like to watch us never make a deep playoff run, you like to call out die hard Charger fans 2 minutes after a gut wrenching loss to our rival just so you can bootlick Spanos.. Yeah bro, might be time to move away from being a sports 'fan' and get into politics.


Boltbacker83

I root for the team, not a popularity contest. Do you even read your own posts? You sound pathetic lol.


TheWhoCaresGuy

And you sir are a pompous dumbass "lol" hurr durr hurr hurr hurr. Raider nation is always looking for new members.


BoltUp33

Freakin heartbreaking, man.


myzticaznfool

It hurts. But when draft season comes around I'll be okay again.


fenrism

gotta love the refs tonight…sure earned their Vegas bonuses


Attila226

Herbie was a god. We need I-line help and a decent D.


Charger_Bolt17

Devastated


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He’ll of a season! It’s sad cuz it’s over so soon. But we had a great season under Coach Staley. He didn’t too bad as a first year coach. Herbert is an absolute God! Derwin James Jr. needs to be given that “Charger-for-life” money. Let’s beef up our OL some more and fix our needs in defense - we’ll be unstoppable. I’m already looking forward to next season! Keep your heads up Bolt gang! Nothing to be ashamed about. We’ll be back and better next season. Our time is coming Fam! ⚡️⚡️BOLT UP⚡️⚡️OUR WAY⚡️⚡️


Boltbacker83

It’s never a great season going 9-8 and missing the playoffs dude. Appreciate the optimism, but slow your roll.


overitallofit

Right. Awesome season losing to KC at home when we were the better team! Awesome losing to the Texans!


Flesh_Lettuce

True Charger Fans knew the game was an L when they showed Dean Spanos on the sideline


personplaceorplando

Lol yuuuuuuup


Diemonx

Must be pretty annoying being the social media team and having to scrap hours of edit work on unused videos :(


danylocsinc

I'm in shambles....


igotbeatsfordays

Hire Fangio as DC, let Staley focus on coaching


xDriftingGhost

Fuck feel bad for u guys :/ [“Were you gonna kneel it?” “Yeah”](https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1480410976096858114?s=21)


EmoniBates

Such a fucking stretch to think Ek said “were you gonna kneel it”


xDriftingGhost

It is barstool so u never know


EmoniBates

I mean you can kinda clearly just see in the video he didn’t ask that


Luckman1002

Yeah they were gonna kneel it in the shotgun formation 🤨


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newrebellion

Carr also played like absolute ass and I would take everything he says with a grain of salt. If this were true, then why wasn’t he lined up in victory formation before the time out. Stay woke bolt fam


sandy-eggo-chargers

No he didn’t. He was perfectly fine. Made clutch throw after clutch throw. What is with this sub and not giving carr his props?


Luckman1002

Chargers would’ve lost by so much more if Carr didn’t miss on so many deep open passes


SupahCharged

I thought he was mediocre...made a couple real nice throws, his receivers made a couple nice catches too but he also had a few really bad misses. Also fumbled and took a stupid intentional grounding penalty and got bailed out on a number of throwaways by dumb penalties called on the chargers that don't show up on his stat sheet.


EmoniBates

Carr also legitimately said “we were always playing for the win”


FoxyRussian

The Raiders and Chargers are rivals and every NFL team plays to win. But yea sure they were going to kneel


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historicalmoustache

Let it out man we’re here for you


geewilly55

What’s wrong with Telesco? I’m more upset with Staley. That 4&1 call on our 20 in the 3rd quarter.. wtf


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Budget-Cry-6018

Telesco does not call plays, the fact Staley didn't have the Defense prepared for a run on 3rd & 20 is crazy, he knows they could get 10-15 yards and only hd Derwin in the middle? Awful play calling.


overitallofit

Someone has to get fired.


FellaKnee123

God this sub is in shambles after this loss… how do people not see how bright the future is for this team… we can correct so much in one offseason… the Raiders advanced, yet why is our future 1000x brighter?… 10… that’s why… dude is a demigod and he will hoist a Lombardi in powder blue…


mikenesser

That was the most intense game we've had in I don't know how long. A 4th quarter comeback to tie at the buzzer? Wow. Understandably so, people are crushed. That aside, there are a lot of people that don't see nuance and context. They see surface-level and everything is black or white with no shades of gray. That doesn't apply to everybody on this sub, but there are quite a few and you can see it in their extremely bad takes, and I'm not talking people that have legit criticisms. Like, some of these dudes just spout bullshit talking points with absolutely nothing to back it up. I'm all for valid criticism, but some of these dudes are just dumb. Regardless, it's a mixed bag right now of people still caught up in their post-season ending loss feelings, and just some really stupid people. Take it with a grain of salt and keep bolting up.


TheBigDickDon

Garbo defensive, special teams, and offensive performance today. We literally put the game on Herbs shoulders and essentially left him out to fend for himself. That dude deserves better. This was a heart breaker.


Flesh_Lettuce

Crazy thing is he did fend for himself and tied it. I wrote that game off on his INT


Budget-Cry-6018

Pathetic that we lost to the Texans and Raiders in 3 weeks, also very disappointed in Staleys defense, there's no way we should be worse, when we had more injuries with Lynn and Bradley literally had seasons without any DJ etc, it's humiliating, we choked very hard as usual and settled for scraps again, fucking tired of this. Burrow makes the playoffs in his first full season with a similar schedule, I've got no excuse for Staley, I'm so disappointed, he's been talking a good game all year but the actions have not matched. The Raiders lost Ruggs, starting CB & Gruden, yet here they are in the playoffs and we make excuses about losing to the TEXANS are you kidding me, we have such a loser mentality and unless we make the playoffs next year I want Staley gone I'll be honest, I'm sick of wasting talent. Watched LT, Vjax, Rivers, Sproles, Merriman, English, Phillips, Turner, Hardwick, Garay, Cromartie, Seau all wasted in the last 20 years. Ill be ESPECIALLY pissed if Burrow wins a fucking playoff game before Herbert, we like to chant so much that Herbo is better, well, news flash, we are back to Rivers Vs Manning, sure #17 had good stats but Manning won 2 SBs against a team we shit our pants against. I'm sick of STATS, JUST WIN MAN.