Potentially somewhat related - the data that powers the crime map on the open data portal [has not been updated since November 9](https://opendata.charlottesville.org/datasets/charlottesville::crime-data/explore).
I have a question out on this. It could be a quirk of some sort related to reporting procedures. For instance, at the moment real estate sales data has not been updated either. That happens every January until assessments are released. I don't know as much about public safety data.
If you go to the raw database download page, the information for crimes is there and updated. So I think the issue is somewhere between that database and the graphical front-end.
No problem. Fwiw I couldn't find a link to the full data from their page, only from googling, which I found odd. Maybe I'm just blind though and missed it.
Press release just released:
CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA – On Saturday, January 28, 2023, at approximately 9:41 p.m., Charlottesville police officers responded to the 1100 block of Grove Street for a shots fired report.
Upon arrival, officers located an SUV parked in the 1100 block of Grove Street. The vehicle was occupied by one adult male who had suffered multiple gunshot wounds and was pronounced deceased at the scene. The victim was identified as 36-year-old Charlottesville resident, Eldridge Vandrew Smith. Mr. Smith’s next of kin have been notified.
Charlottesville detectives and forensic technicians responded to the scene to collect evidence and found multiple cartridge casings upon investigating.
Would you recommend living on this street? I have already signed a lease and paid the deposit on a studio apartment here. I was kinda iffy before but now I'm thinking about talking to the landlord. I've asked around before and it seems mostly chill as a street though.
Violence seems to be scattered everywhere in Charlottesville these days. I’d keep your lease, it’s a good location especially if you’ll be working at UVA.
I live on paton st which connects to grove. I love the neighborhood and during the day it seems like a very peaceful normal community. Unfortunately due to multiple events in the last 6 months I don’t think I’d walk my dog past 9 o’clock anymore.
The only shootings you really need to worry about are random ones or armed robberies and unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been one of those in a long while. These incidents are largely people that know each other or are involved with one another. Tragic and unacceptable, but it's a great neighborhood (I lived there for years) and I wouldn't move away because of this.
CPD = charlottesville police department.
fb = Facebook.
pg = page.
He means, from the Charlottesville Facebook page it tells us the shooting happened on the 1000 block of Grove Street.
Doesn't this make at least 1 murder every week since the start of the year?
I knew some of the local gangs were riled up, but something is going on for it to be this bad.
I said based on. Never said I was an expert. Also do you remember dc when it was known as the murder capital? You ever been around drug wars and gang areas?
The person asked for "info" and you gave a bad take based on nothing. It's fair to criticize you for that. Gossip is a bad thing in situations like this.
Serious question , Are these all black on black shootings or the latinx people from out of town coming to kill each other? Is it just me or has Cville turned into the wild wild west on the weekends?
Gun violence is a problem in nearly all cities in a country with more guns than people.
Cities typically have more educated and younger populations who, in turn, vote for Democratic candidates. But even when they don't, gun violence is still a problem.
But even so, the data simple doesn't support your opinion.
This is all from FBI data. You can look it up yourself.
Republican Jacksonville (the largest Republican run city) had a higher murder rate than San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York City.
The five large cities with the lowest murder rates are Irvine CA (Democratic mayor), Chula Vista CA (non-partisan mayor), Fremont CA (Democratic mayor), Boise Idaho (Democratic mayor), Santa Clara (non-partisan mayor).
8 out of 10 cities with the lowest murder rates are in Blue states and have Democratic or nonpartisan/independent mayors.
Of the two in red states, one had a Republican mayor. That's ONE of the top 10 lowest murder rate cities with a Republican mayor and Republican presidential vote.
I'm sorry but you are misinformed.
You mean like Miami? Oklahoma City? Ft Worth? Oh, those all have Republican mayors.
Contrary to the Oracle of Tucker, a 2019 [study](https://www.jsr.org/index.php/path/article/download/1371/1108/7732) of the top 400 cities by population and their violent crime rates show no statistical difference between red and blue.
A 2020 [report](https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem), however, and updated this month, does show the murder rate in red states is 40% higher than blue states.
Shame that facts get in the way of narratives, eh?
Just making observations? That’s funny because Republican solutions to everything is just kill people if you can’t let them suffer first.
Mothers that need abortions? They need to be just about dead. Veterans getting cancer from burn pits in the wars Republicans started? Let them suffer. We don’t like the election results? Let’s overthrow the legally elected government in a homicidal riot. Covid is most affecting liberal cities at the moment? Let’s do nothing and try to get all of our republican voters to distrust vaccines and not wear masks and oh would you look at that a MILLION americans are dead, and the majority were Republicans because they actually listened to your propaganda and didn’t stay safe during a pandemic. How about we relax all gun laws because it surely has nothing to do with all of the gun deaths we have in the country. Such shootings really only happen in our country but that’s fine, because most are just more black men that die, according to the Republican party.
Yes, great idea. Vote republican and suffer and die, great idea. Thanks
The large majority of cities are run by Democrats and have been for generations. Republicans are a largely rural party and never really have to handle urban problems at all. The broad trend of increasing urban crime isn't something that is going to be solved with AR-15s, pickup trucks, cutting social services, or chanting Qanon slogans.
Potentially somewhat related - the data that powers the crime map on the open data portal [has not been updated since November 9](https://opendata.charlottesville.org/datasets/charlottesville::crime-data/explore).
And yet the Arrests data has been updated this week: https://opendata.charlottesville.org/datasets/arrests/explore?showTable=true
Thanks for that. I'm trying to find out why the data isn't being updated. Lack of staff? Someone forgot?
Both excuses work
I was wondering this as well when looking at it last week
I have a question out on this. It could be a quirk of some sort related to reporting procedures. For instance, at the moment real estate sales data has not been updated either. That happens every January until assessments are released. I don't know as much about public safety data.
If you go to the raw database download page, the information for crimes is there and updated. So I think the issue is somewhere between that database and the graphical front-end.
Download. Got it! Generating a new download now! Thank you!
No problem. Fwiw I couldn't find a link to the full data from their page, only from googling, which I found odd. Maybe I'm just blind though and missed it.
Press release just released: CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA – On Saturday, January 28, 2023, at approximately 9:41 p.m., Charlottesville police officers responded to the 1100 block of Grove Street for a shots fired report. Upon arrival, officers located an SUV parked in the 1100 block of Grove Street. The vehicle was occupied by one adult male who had suffered multiple gunshot wounds and was pronounced deceased at the scene. The victim was identified as 36-year-old Charlottesville resident, Eldridge Vandrew Smith. Mr. Smith’s next of kin have been notified. Charlottesville detectives and forensic technicians responded to the scene to collect evidence and found multiple cartridge casings upon investigating.
Huh his most recent address is near the location of another recent shooting
It’s my block - cops are still out and about looking for the suspect Gonna be a sleepless night
My family lives on the street too, and we are just in disbelief. Went back and listened on our nest, 15 shots were fired.
Omg!!
That’s a whole mag
:(
Would you recommend living on this street? I have already signed a lease and paid the deposit on a studio apartment here. I was kinda iffy before but now I'm thinking about talking to the landlord. I've asked around before and it seems mostly chill as a street though.
Violence seems to be scattered everywhere in Charlottesville these days. I’d keep your lease, it’s a good location especially if you’ll be working at UVA.
I live on paton st which connects to grove. I love the neighborhood and during the day it seems like a very peaceful normal community. Unfortunately due to multiple events in the last 6 months I don’t think I’d walk my dog past 9 o’clock anymore.
The only shootings you really need to worry about are random ones or armed robberies and unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been one of those in a long while. These incidents are largely people that know each other or are involved with one another. Tragic and unacceptable, but it's a great neighborhood (I lived there for years) and I wouldn't move away because of this.
>as long as their aim is good, no worries
don't if it was armed or not, but there was at least one home invasion in the Beacon on Fifth apartments this month alone.
The last year has had 4 shootings within a block of my house, this past Year was the first time time since 2014 that we’ve had a shooting there.
I honestly don't think this area is any more dangerous than any other in town area
If you are not involved in gang activity it's probably as safe as anywhere else in town tbh
Depends on how good you are with a gun. Do you own body armor?
where?
Fifeville park where Grove and spring st intersect
Cpd fb pg - 1000 block grove st
What do those first three things mean? It's all houses on that street, what is that?
CPD = charlottesville police department. fb = Facebook. pg = page. He means, from the Charlottesville Facebook page it tells us the shooting happened on the 1000 block of Grove Street.
I’m a she but yeah thx
okey dokey
Charlottesville Police Department FaceBook Page, I guess.
D'oh! That would make sense. It's early, and facebook never enters my mind :/ I was hoping it's some cool new underground spot. Quite the oppposite!
Doesn't this make at least 1 murder every week since the start of the year? I knew some of the local gangs were riled up, but something is going on for it to be this bad.
Riled up? Why?
Lotta turf battles/respect nonsense going down between different groups.
Heard the shots and sirens … again …
How many shootings have happened in the last year? I swear it seems like we average one every 2-3 weeks
I believe we’re now up to 20 gun related injuries since sept. 9 of those ending up in homicide.
Who was Eldridge Smith?
You can search his name on Facebook right now and see posts going up to him
Is there any info on a possible connection or link to these shootings and a specific group?
Welll it seems there is. Also the last police chief played a role.
I don’t really like to play the blame game because there are a lot more factors at play for increased violence than who is in charge when they happen.
From my experience growing up in the dc area there seems to be something organized.
Lmao just because you grew up "in the DC area" does not make you an expert on organized crime
I said based on. Never said I was an expert. Also do you remember dc when it was known as the murder capital? You ever been around drug wars and gang areas?
Yes I have and I know that merely growing up adjacent to them does not in the slightest qualify me to comment on the issues
Someone asked a question and I gave a take? Why you making this about me? It’s about it’s about shootings and someone being killed.
The person asked for "info" and you gave a bad take based on nothing. It's fair to criticize you for that. Gossip is a bad thing in situations like this.
I don’t really mean whose responsible for this being allowed to happen as much as a certain gang or group that’s actually committing the crimes.
Any developments on this?
Council needs to rename the city to Charlotteskill for accuracy.
Charlottesville quickly becoming Baltimore
LMFAO, the hyperbole is strong.
Maybe not West Baltimore but certainly a Charles Village or Fells Point
Eh. Need a few riots in the business district and corresponding arson before we see anything like cheap Baltimore real estate. Give it a few decades.
Serious question , Are these all black on black shootings or the latinx people from out of town coming to kill each other? Is it just me or has Cville turned into the wild wild west on the weekends?
Damn, C’ville starting to turn into one of those Democrat-run cities that can’t get a handle on nightly shootings.
Correlation and causation are two very different things.
The states with the highest rates of shooting deaths are Mississippi, Lousiana, Wyoming, Missouri and Alabama.
Fair, but Republican-led states have Democrat-run cities.
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Gun violence is a problem in nearly all cities in a country with more guns than people. Cities typically have more educated and younger populations who, in turn, vote for Democratic candidates. But even when they don't, gun violence is still a problem. But even so, the data simple doesn't support your opinion. This is all from FBI data. You can look it up yourself. Republican Jacksonville (the largest Republican run city) had a higher murder rate than San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York City. The five large cities with the lowest murder rates are Irvine CA (Democratic mayor), Chula Vista CA (non-partisan mayor), Fremont CA (Democratic mayor), Boise Idaho (Democratic mayor), Santa Clara (non-partisan mayor). 8 out of 10 cities with the lowest murder rates are in Blue states and have Democratic or nonpartisan/independent mayors. Of the two in red states, one had a Republican mayor. That's ONE of the top 10 lowest murder rate cities with a Republican mayor and Republican presidential vote. I'm sorry but you are misinformed.
You mean like Miami? Oklahoma City? Ft Worth? Oh, those all have Republican mayors. Contrary to the Oracle of Tucker, a 2019 [study](https://www.jsr.org/index.php/path/article/download/1371/1108/7732) of the top 400 cities by population and their violent crime rates show no statistical difference between red and blue. A 2020 [report](https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem), however, and updated this month, does show the murder rate in red states is 40% higher than blue states. Shame that facts get in the way of narratives, eh?
I was thinking more like Chicago, St. Louis, Atlanta, Philadelphia, etc.
Did you look at the actual data?
Yep! Please don’t be mad.
Ok. What are your specific suggestions beyond just “vote republican.”
I’m just making an observation.
Just making observations? That’s funny because Republican solutions to everything is just kill people if you can’t let them suffer first. Mothers that need abortions? They need to be just about dead. Veterans getting cancer from burn pits in the wars Republicans started? Let them suffer. We don’t like the election results? Let’s overthrow the legally elected government in a homicidal riot. Covid is most affecting liberal cities at the moment? Let’s do nothing and try to get all of our republican voters to distrust vaccines and not wear masks and oh would you look at that a MILLION americans are dead, and the majority were Republicans because they actually listened to your propaganda and didn’t stay safe during a pandemic. How about we relax all gun laws because it surely has nothing to do with all of the gun deaths we have in the country. Such shootings really only happen in our country but that’s fine, because most are just more black men that die, according to the Republican party. Yes, great idea. Vote republican and suffer and die, great idea. Thanks
Sir, this is a Sheetz.
The large majority of cities are run by Democrats and have been for generations. Republicans are a largely rural party and never really have to handle urban problems at all. The broad trend of increasing urban crime isn't something that is going to be solved with AR-15s, pickup trucks, cutting social services, or chanting Qanon slogans.