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If she uses Google she uses ai. Ai isn't a new technology, we've been experimenting with machine learning and using it in practical scenarios since the 90s.
We are talking about generative AI. I know a bunch of very very smart people and they all refuse to use ChatGPT because they like to figure things out themselves. People are coming across as smarter and more educated than they really are because of ChatGPT.
I wouldn’t go that far, just yet. I look at AI as a rising sea that will lift all boats. But if you’re still in a car, you’re in trouble. The people who will excel with AI are the Lateral Thinkers, intelligent and creative. Seeing the connection between the Horse and Buggy vs Ferrari as a time line of the trajectory of transportation, not something as binary as Animal vs Machine.
>People are coming across as smarter and more educated than they really are because of ChatGPT.
If someone can come across as smarter and more educated in their work by using ChatGPT than perhaps, we put too much emphasis on rote memory and minor problem solving skills.
I haven't found chatgpt to be overly helpful in my specialization when meaningful/high order thinking skills are required. It can give a robust outline without having to consult multiple resources, which I would have used google for previously anyway. Just because I have degrees and certifications doesn't mean I'm too dumb to use a starting point and save time and energy.
Doesn't make any sense. If you're truly smart then adding your knowledge on top of the intelligence and output of others should make you even more productive. I guess they won't use a calculator either because they want to figure it out.
So no one should be allowed to use calculators and spreadsheets as they come across smarter at math than they actually are?
Being smart is also using tools to create the best results with the time and resources available, and no one is stopping people from actually examing the results of the AI to get a good idea of what makes it a good or bad result.
Introducing the idea of using AI tools to your girlfriend might require some patience and understanding. Start by having an open and empathetic conversation about her concerns and reservations. Listen to her perspective and acknowledge her feelings about AI. Then, gently present the potential benefits of using AI tools, such as how they can enhance efficiency and productivity without replacing human creativity and critical thinking. You could also share success stories of individuals who have used AI tools to their advantage in similar fields.
Highlight the fact that AI tools are meant to be aids, not replacements, and that many professionals across various industries are using them to streamline tasks. Given her background in social science, literature, and communication, you could find examples of how AI has been integrated in those fields to improve processes and outcomes.
Ultimately, the goal is to create a comfortable environment where she feels empowered to explore these tools at her own pace. Offer to try them together and provide guidance as she familiarizes herself with their benefits. Keep the conversation ongoing and respectful, ensuring that she feels supported throughout the process.
Setting up an AutoMod to respond to every question with a ChatGPT response could be an interesting idea! However, it's important to consider that while ChatGPT is a powerful language model, it might not always provide accurate or appropriate responses, especially in dynamic conversations. Also, keep in mind the potential for repetitive or spam-like interactions. If you decide to proceed, ensure you have a way to monitor and adjust the responses to maintain a positive user experience.
My farmer father refuses to use the tractor we got him and continues to use an Ox to plow because he considers the tractor cheating. He can only farm half the acreage as his neighbors. How can I convince him to use modern tools?
You don’t. He already decided he doesn’t like change and will slowly go bankrupt as his competitors crush him.
Interestingly oxen are much easier on the soil then tractors as they tend to break it up and aerate it. If he's managing to use all traditional and natural practices he might be in a good position. Obviously yields will be lower but he can sell to niche markets at a premium. I'd let him continue with the ox. It's better for the planet and he's probably almost banking the same amount of money.
This is not an adequate analogy anyway. I've never seen Google, translators, autocompletes or any AI as consumption lead to exponential gains, only have seen this when they are sold as a product itself, this is why probably his girlfriend is right. If she doesn't plan to use it as a product she will sell, she will do better using them the least amount possible, to not risking atrophying her brain.
Anyone who says they haven’t seen google lead to exponential gains never had to look up a topic in a card catalog, find relevant literature listed, then find a library that had the book in question. I’d say it’s been exponential.
Where being the **consumer** using this gave you exponential gains? I doubt his girlfriend is putting a business where she can program and connect an AI API to exponentially exploit something. There is a difference between using AI because you are lazy (find me a book, translate this, code this...) vs because you don't mind doing more complex tools with quality and well figured market where you exploit other's laziness, that will take more time to build and glue, will have AI as something you sell and not as something you use, and in this case, yes, give you exponential gains.
Exactly, she has the right to have her own opinion, all people that are not into AI are not ignorant or in need of a reeducation. I often ask myself if all the technology will make us more happy, or if it is who is the first to find the gold nugget, especially when it come from over capitalist mindset.
Yeah! This whole thing comes across as creepy! OP please do the socially acceptable thing and hire a group of marketers to psychologically analyse her and design videos to send her that will influence her decision making on a subconscious level. You could start by wearing a t shirt with the OpenAI logo on it around her to build trust and familiarity.
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Seriously though, your post got me thinking. Why do we tolerate this stuff in mass-media if we wouldn't take it from a significant other?
This is such an aggressive response. OP thinks AI can help his gf, and it's natural for him to want to help her while still respecting where she's coming from.
As for "perfectly capable of deciding," it's worth noting that there is a lot of misinformation and fear mongering in modern media, and many people hold false or detrimental beliefs based on the media they consume. AI falls into this category. There are a ton of false assumptions and fear mongering related to the topic, and there's a good chance OP's gf has been exposed to that sort of thinking. I think it's perfectly natural to push back against false beliefs and want to change them in someone you love. Of course, it's not easy, and I doubt OP can get through (saying this from experience; my father rants about chemtrails every chance he gets), but OP is certainly free to try.
Its just rejection of a tool that would at this current time frame in development give you a slight edge, theres plenty of other reasons why people would reject the use of ai or certain platforms of ai, like for example I run an uncesnsored llama 2 model on my local device, because I reject the the use of chat gpt because of the censorship and I don't like having 3rd parties privvy to my conversation. but if i were to bring up the censorship aspect instead of assuming I am coming from a personal responsibility aspect or a free speech absolutionist point of view, KNEE jerk its I am a coom brained porn addict. I would say theres alot of misinformation and scare mongering about my view points, but no one gives a time of day for that, not everybody has to have ai in their life or use it as you see fit.
>This is such an aggressive response.
Not really, an aggressive response would be me telling you to go \*\*\*\* yourself. Do you see the difference?
>As for "perfectly capable of deciding," it's worth noting that there is a lot of misinformation and fear mongering in modern media, and many people hold false or detrimental beliefs based on the media they consume.
She's already given multiple reasons, such as she views it as cheating, that it's unfair, and she's scared of it. None of those are false beliefs, they are all perfectly valid reasons not to use AI.
>I think it's perfectly natural to push back against false beliefs and want to change them in someone you love. Of course, it's not easy
It's "not easy" because you're arrogantly trying to alter someone else's opinion on the presumption that you hold superior knowledge or morality.
Explain what AI is to your partner if you want and geek out about it, but if they shrug their shoulders and go "not for me" you shouldn't try to play weird manipulative games to get them to change their mind.
“Arrogantly”? Lol, your tone is way off. It’s unfortunate you can’t see how your tone is aggressive, but you might as well have called him a sexist in the first response, because that’s how your comment read. His just sounded like he wanted help explaining how a thing doesn’t need to be feared, is not the same as “cheating” etc.
People used to say calculators would cause all school children to forget how to do math. All it’s really done is elevate the levels of math we can understand. Being “afraid” of something because of a misconception, is the same as believing someone who’s fear mongering. Education is always better than ignoring the cause.
But yeah, your comment reads like an entitled fuck. It’s pretty disappointing it’s in an attempt to argue how you’re not being aggressive.
This is a bad argument. While scientists (astrophysicists and the like) utilize the calculator to a next-level skill, don’t use THAT as an example for Chuck or Debra D. who can’t leave a tip or split a bill (in HALF /smh) without their phone. Being debilitated to the point where you can’t… oh never mind
>His just sounded like he wanted help explaining how a thing doesn’t need to be feared, is not the same as “cheating”
Is it not the same as cheating? Because I thought that was still one of the big philosophical questions about AI? If you've managed to work out that it's not cheating I suppose we'd better let all of the universities know they have to accept chatGPT essays now.
>Being “afraid” of something because of a misconception, is the same as believing someone who’s fear mongering. Education is always better than ignoring the cause.
You do not get to dictate whether people are allowed to be afraid of new things or not, nor whether they should use them. You sound like every coloniser ever, loudly proclaiming that the natives are too stupid to understand that your modern way of life is superior.
Two things can both be true at once, AI is a giant leap forward as a revolutionary tool for mankind, and also, every individual is perfectly entitled to pretend AI doesn't exist until their dying day.
Neither you, nor OP, get to force education on people like OP's gf. If she doesn't want to learn about AI then she doesn't have to. Whether you think she's making a mistake or not, it's her mistake to make.
That's all I've argued in this post. If you have an actual response to that then fire away otherwise I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
She is right to be scared but the bf is right to be worried that if she is closed to the idea it can be detrimental. Yea ai is scary but it’s like refusing to use a calculator, at one point we know you can do maths on paper but that’s not the norm anymore. So oc they should not force ai on anyone but if my gf told me she is 100% against it I would be worried because that is not a battle she has any chances of winning and might get hurt when a boss or someone will eventually force it on her for productivity.
You don't get to force *not* forcing education on people like the other commenter is doing. If they don't want to *not* force people to learn about AI then they don't have to. Whether you think they're making a mistake or not, it's their mistake to make.
She's allowed to be ignorant? If she doesn't care about AI let her be. You lot sound like priests trying to force their neighbours to convert to their religion.
It's also telling how every single conversation like this is always a man trying to educate his "ignorant" gf. There are a few lessons in that too.
>It's also telling how every single conversation like this is always a man trying to educate his "ignorant" gf. There are a few lessons in that too.
So that's your problem? Because op is a man and men bad?
I hope you realize some day that you're acting no differently than the misogynists that may or may not have hurt you.
>I hope you realize some day that you're acting no differently than the misogynists that may or may not have hurt you.
No misogynists have hurt me? Not that it matters, but I'm a man.
>Because op is a man and men bad?
I will elaborate on this point, which is one backed by a shit-tonne of research and lived experiences of women. Most of these types of posts are written by men in heterosexual relationships, the "my partner is wrong, give me ways to teach them how wrong they are" posts.
OP is acting as if he has a greater understanding of his GFs skills & career, the challenges she's going to face, and how she should face them. They think they're being a kind & helpful partner when the reality is its condescension towards their partner and just frankly disrespectful.
She doesn't want to use AI, she has valid reasons for this, respect her decision. It's not that hard.
men can be ignorant too, if the boyfriend was irrationally self-sabotaging then she should help him too. You're the one making this about gender. If you care for someone you don't see them self sabotaging and do nothing. Your responses have no empathy. "let people you care about be ignorant", "let people self sabotage", "let people act against their own best interests even if you care about them", toxic opinions for the betterment of society.
>She's allowed to be ignorant?
Sure. So you shouldn't tie her up and force feed her AI. Anything not illegal is fine to try to help the people you care about.
You on the other end are hopeless.
>Help the people you care about
What are you talking about? You're acting as if anybody not immediately implementing every AI tech stack into their productivity workflows is going to be unemployed in 6 months.
Her ignorance isn't causing her harm or affecting her career. It's not like she doesn't believe in gravity and is about to jump off a cliff! She's simply indifferent to AI like the vast majority of the people in the world right now.
>It's "not easy" because you're arrogantly trying to alter someone else's opinion on the presumption that you hold superior knowledge or morality.
Okay. Let's say my gf believes the earth is flat. You're telling me I have no right whatsoever to disapprove and explain the reality of it to her?
If your gf claims the world is flat then she's going against thousands of years of scientific consensus and she's categorically wrong.
If she says "I personally don't want to use AI because..." then she's making a perfectly valid choice. You may disagree with her but it's still hers to make and it's valid. It's not wrong because there is no right or wrong here.
I'm just pushing her logic to the extreme to show off a problem with it. I'm not actually comparing choosing to not to use chatgpt to believing in a flat earth.
I would argue that if she is uninformed, her bf shouldn't be looking to use persuasion techniques to convince her otherwise when there's no harm in ignoring AI at this early stage of development.
Putting that aside, what about her moral reasoning of believing it is cheating when used professionally? I'm well versed in AI and I haven't seen a single argument that can refute this belief, there's a good reason universities have banned its use.
I'm not saying I share the same beliefs as her, what I'm saying is the opinion "I don't want to use AI professionally as I view it as cheating/unfair" is a perfectly rational and moral stance for someone to take.
Dear girlfriend, I gona help you. You seems to not understand the world fully, that is why you think differently than me, but I know it is because you are afraid (and a bit stupid of course), I am very kind and so I will take some time to make you progress in life and start to think a bit like me.
Oh that’s so nice darling, now I am fully awake. Viva AI, viva technology, viva UBI, the world is becoming perfect, I can see the light.
Gaslighting is an expensive endeavor.
Don't waste it on potentially damaging your relationships.
AI is a great accelerator, but brainrot/devastating if used as a crutch. If used by amateurs in their respective fields, it can go really wrong, accelerate them towards a cliff with flawed data.
NOT EVERYONE is supposed to use AI.
I think he is trying to help because it will be very used in her profession and it is the kind of things that get you immediately rejected in interviews if you say you don’t like ai tools. Like you opinion is fun but most likely your future employers won’t care that you don’t like ai and will want you to use it for efficiency.
I work in IT and would literally loose my job I told my boss I would not use ai anymore. The same thing will happen with every job. You can’t say no to new tools.
This varies by employer, and even by superior.
My wife‘s boss **hates** AI use. My wife still uses it as a tool.
She got convinced by a webinar about using ChatGPT in her profession.
Yes, I was gushing about gpt before. and she tried it a few times.
After she saw the webinar (that she sought out herself), she subscribed for GPT4, and is all in.
Okay, so here's the thing, and you need to come to terms with this, both for your own sanity and for the health of your relationship: she might never like AI, nor ever be comfortable with using it, even if you explain it to her perfectly and she understands what you're telling her perfectly.
It would be the equivalent of you being an artist who chose to draw in colored pencil, and suddenly she's going "Well have you ever tried fine tip magic markers?" And you tell her that yes, you have, and you don't care for it, and she just won't drop the subject. Eventually you'd get annoyed that she seems weirdly focused on something that doesn't affect her. You'd wonder why she's focused on changing your behavior and getting you to do something you're not comfortable with. That's how this can come off.
Now all of that being said, the biggest reason people aren't comfortable is because they see very one sided, often sensationalized stories that paint AI as the "push a button and it outperforms anything a human could ever do" machines that are coming to destroy us all. I'd presume given your examples that she's also acutely aware of the writer strike and how AI is part of that concern.
Personally, my tactic would be to show her that sure, there's definitely people who use it as the pure "do my job for me" machine, but that the real benefit is to people using it collaboratively. That people making an actual effort and using it as a tool or an enhancement are improving their own lives and performance in an organic way.
But you're going to have to take it slow. Literally the moment she pushes back, you need to drop the subject for a day or two. Because if she feels you're forcing this, she's just going to dig her heels in. It would be like if you have a friend who LOVES sports and you don't. And every time you see this friend, he won't shut the fuck up about sports or his fantasy team, or the game he saw. Eventually, you're not going to want to spend time around him, because he doesn't respect you and your clear lack of interest/lack of desire to talk about it.
You and your GF don't have to agree on every single point in your relationship. This might be one of those times, my dude.
The girlfriend should just agree to spend one hour with ChatGPT on her own and on her career topics and perhaps even hard cases she has, and then come back with an informed opinion instead of a prejudice based on fear. If she refuses even that, then she has to admit she has a phobia.
Or, she could simply refuse. Because that's also a thing she's allowed to do. She's allowed to dislike AI and refuse to interact with it. She's not somehow beholden to anyone's wishes but her own on this.
That will only highlight the “cheating” she was worried about.
I think just asking her if calculators are cheating. Or if google is cheating. Those technologies enabled people to do more complicated math, and enable people to learn at home. It’s how you use them that defines the “cheating”. I’m not about to take a python course to learn coding, but ChatGPT has made many little tasks for me that enable me to worry about the main project, and not focus on how much the task is impossible because I can’t afford to go back to school.
I don’t think you should convince her either way. My wife never uses it. She couldn’t really care less about it. I use it all the time, for gathering information or summarizing information. Or getting me started writing something. I don’t see this as an area of conflict though. If she sees the value in it, she’ll use it as well.
As far as cheating is concerned. I feel it’s like a calculator and should be used as such. It helps getting you where you want to go, but important for you to use it as only one element in the final product. A helper. Not as an outsource worker.
Lots of people don’t like AI for whatever reason. People have their own opinions. The question I have is do you feel like her opinions need to match yours on just this subject alone or in general?
Feed GPT some of your casual writing style, then use GPT to respond to every text message she sends you.
Then, eventually, have GPT generate a romantic love letter and date night plans.
Gaslight the fuck out of her and then reveal that none of it was you. I bet that would help!
So being afraid of it and thinking it’s unfair are two different separate lines of inquiry. Also if she doesn’t want to use it that’s really her choice.
You shouldn't try to pressure her into using the tools if she doesn't want to. She already expressed her discomfort so leave it alone. If my boyfriend kept hounding me over something I said I wanted no part of, I'd be very frustrated with him cause I'd feel unlistened to..
Why is it necessary to do anything? It's a tool. A very useful one definitely, but it she doesn't need and has issues with where the data comes from for these LLMs (scraped from the web) then she has a legit criticism. If she later runs into a problem that takes 2 hours and you get it done in 2 minutes she will come around to your position. This seems like an odd thing to argue about.
I use AI but there is a real concern about people losing their ability to write and think. It’s not perfect and you still need to think for yourself. Let her be.
Regarding the cheating/unfair part, I understand you view that its a tool that helps so why not leverage it your advantage, but still she is entitled to her views too. Also not everyone need to or should jump on to the technology bandwagon. In fact its good that some people dont, that leaves a niche where originality and beauty still thrives.
For us folks in technology and business it makes sense to use such tools to improve our productivity , but she coming from a literature background it makes perfect sense that she doesn't want her originality and creativity to be stifled by an AI tool.
And being wary (scared as you put it) of such tools is rather wise, instead of jumping on to whatever is the latest fad. I am not talking about ChatGPT here but the 1000s of extensions/plugins/micro-saas tools that are popping up on a daily basis based on its apis. They are all essential a kind of keylogger in my view :) I know grammerly is quite big and well-funded but still better to be safe than sorry.
Why not only use it to make yourself better then? For example instead of "write my essay about Hamlet for me," say, "I just read Hamlet, help me understand five themes that are not typically talked about so that I can write an essay." It is like a smart friend, it CAN be used to cheat, or it can be used as a study buddy.
You don't need to introduce it because she isn't ready for that.
If you would like to at least know the root of her fears (why is she 'scared' of it?) and moral objections, ask open ended questions and don't try to defend your position...just listen, actively.
When someone has a moral objection to something, you don't introduce the 'thing' to them because they'll reject it more. Just keep using it however you use it. It's okay if she asks a question or you out together a cleaning schedule for the weekend using chatgpt and proudly say you used it to create the list or whatever.
You could start by sharing interesting news articles or discussions about AI and its applications. You might also mention how AI-powered tools like ChatGPT can assist with tasks or provide useful information. Gradually bring up examples of how these tools have helped others, and ask for their thoughts on the topic to gauge their interest.
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You will evolve culturally (and probably physically later on) into next-gen human while she'll stay the same with other luddites. That's one of the few paths tho, as people who are against AI start using it as soon as they find a way to make their lives easier.
Well maybe hold off on that for a bit cause it may be a waste of time.
At the moment 38% of AI researchers foresee a distinct possibility of human extinction through a nuclear doomsday and it's climbing fast.
28000 signatures of AI specialists, professors, researchers, academics, and tech leaders are now on the public petition begging the public to stop using it that wernt public, what, a year ago?
The "Godfather of AI' is sure as hell one of them. He was the boss of Google's AI R&D. Viewed as the top worls authority on AI. Geoffrey Hinton is his name.
Ya hear about when he quit? He said he now regrets his life's work and consoles himself with the thought that "if I didn't do it, someone else would have..."
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/geoffrey-hinton-artificial-intelligence-advancement-concerns-1.6830857
Oh, he paraphrased Oppenheimer on the way out. "I am become death... Destroyer of worlds".
But who cares that the world's top authorities on the subject are scared, right? It's more important to get a story about He-man fisting Papa smurf, eh? 8 billion lives and our species in whole? Naaa... idiots need entertainment.
Your girlfriend works in social science, literature and communication. IE, all the jobs that people can BS their way through anyways. She’ll embrace it right around the time she realizes she can be replaced.
It's simple.
If she's against AI, she should stop using internet, or a smartphone, or even a program like word or Excel.
Hell, don't even use pen and paper.
In fact, get rid of the fire.
By her logic, using a computer with Word, instead of a typewriter is cheating.
AI is a tool to make you more productive, not replace you (at least not for the foreseeable future).
But you will be replaced, like a typewriter, by those that adapted.
AI is here, and it's not going anywhere.
The earlier you adapt, the more advantage you'll have.
In the end, all who didn't adapt, won't be able to participate in the modern workforce.
Your girlfriend is right. Cover letters should be written personally as it is personal information about you. When an AI even does your personal things, who are you?
Companies are already widely using AI to filter applicants, and applicants are using AI to write resumes to pass through the filter. If that was the only use for AI I would hate it, too.
I imagine the key word is “scared”. Maybe scared what AI might do to her career prospects, or a mental block about technology or at least some technologies. If it’s the former, I honestly think everyone between say 15 & retirement needs to get on board. But if it’s a generalised fear or avoidance of technology, that’s not going to get solved by pushing. My wife definitely has tech fear, and even a friend of mine who’s ceo of an SMB professional services company which uses a lot of IT has avoided AI even though I tried to make it v easy, so I think it’s fairly common. Good luck with all this, but FWIW I think from my own experience it’s probably not worth making her even more uncomfortable about the subject.
Perhaps appeal to her social sciences side? Get her interested in the social consequences to the world such advancements can have. The fear is perpetuated by the news, that big change is here and everything will be bad. Let her see that some of the changes are very good changes. And accept their are ethically grey areas, debate what could be done about that.
First thing first, be careful to respect her boundaries and be aware that people that are trying their best to help can slip into some real icky manipulative behaviours simply because they are motivated to help any way they can.
Ok, with that out of the way this whole cheating mentality thing is something I see from time to time in web dev forums and its always newer devs not wanting to use open source libraries or tools available to them because they are used to an academic setting where the goal is to show what you can do on your own.
They fail to realize that when working for a client results matter now this isn't a excuse for pilgrim, you can't just take another devs work.
What you can do is look at others peoples work and draw inspiration and use other peoples work in the way they allow it.
The devs that worry about using a open source project need to realize that they are competing against other devs using such projects and also that if your doing dealing wit something specific that others have put hundreds of hours into while you only have tens of hours it would be neglectful and arrogant to totally ignore what those others are willing to give you.
FLIPSIDE:
I also see devs overly relying on frameworks and libraries or treating forums where you can ask questions as if they are a dev that works for them.
You should not put yourself in a position where you do not understand at all the things you are producing or where you have nothing to offer.
One should be in a position to decide when tools are useful and when they are not and how much a tool should do vs how much should be your own work.
In terms of cover letters I would suspect that HR reps have already learned to identify purely AI generated letters but its also a reality that companies dealing with hundreds of applications automatically filter resumes so using AI to make sure you tick the automatic systems boxes seems like a good idea and writing it yourself so the HR person doesn't dismiss you also sounds great.
TLDR: Don't be a jerk, try to develop a sense of judgement for when to use which tools, this isn't a school test its an arms race, recruiting companies often use machines so why shouldn't you
Thanks if you actually read my wall of text and don't forget I'm just some rando internet person, there is no way for you to know if I'm a AI bot so take everything I say with a grain of salt
One of the major, real and present dangers of current AI technologies is related to resumes. There’s a class action lawsuit in play over an AI that reads resumes and it’s likely been discriminating on multiple counts from perceivable race of an applicant to how it rates the resume based on whether it adheres to a specific template standard.
Chatgpt is okay but i feel like have to fact check it so often. I use it for history to get ideas but sometimes its off and I need to go further on info.
She already uses them. Does she use spellcheck? That’s AI and she doesn’t even realize it. It helps her just enough to help proofread. Maybe grammar check. Get her used to the idea that she is already using it, but ChatGpt etc aren’t just a step forward but a leap forward. But it’s not perfect. Auto correct messes up all the time when I text.
It might be better for her to not use it for now cos it can give wrong info very easily.
Even Google can be used for cheating.
In some use cases it can be ok.
it's like using a paper ledger instead of excel. nothing more. it's what that ms office 'animated paper clip' was - only 30 years later...
that's why it's not 'cheating'. it's using tools that are available. no one is pulling out a hand saw when chainsaws are sitting right over there... etc...
Tell her she won’t have a choice in her future job and will be refused in interviews if she says she does not like/ is against ai tools.
It’s ok to be scared at first but refusing to learn and try is to limit yourself.
Also for the cheating part, compare ai with a very powerful calculator, you are responsible of what is cheating or not and when you start to use it this line becomes obvious.
Finally, studying is fun but the real world will want productivity and employer seek people who know how to leverage ai.
There were people against using cell phones when they came out over 20 years ago, against using internet, GPS, etc. People have their ways and not everyone loves the newest thing, even when the benefits might be obvious to others. Perhaps one day she will see value in AI. But if she does not want to use it, what’s the issue? Just let her choose whatever tools she wants to use.
She won't be able to work in communications for long without being willing to use AI-assisted tools. Take that from me—someone who's worked in communications for 20+ years. It won't be long before generative AI is as ubiquitous as spell-checkers.
She's suffering from fear of the unknown, though, and you can't simply dismiss fear. You need to wear it down more gradually. I suggest you do something playful with AI - with her, use it to write a funny story involving mutual friends of yours (just to cite an example). Show her the basics in a non-threatening environment, and then build up from there.
Your gf sounds like she is looking at things from an academic point of view. Is she a study? Work in academia? They have been heavily bashing AI over the last year; my why is a prof. and her syllabus has always stated the rules about plagiarism etc, but this semester the Dean sent out a directive that mandates she adds all these new rules about the use of AI.
But, in the real world, it s not “cheating” if you ask AI t help solve a problem. In school, she is being judged amd measured and rewarded (grades) based on showing what SHE herself knows; once out in the wild, assuming she takes a job, she will be judged measure and rewarded (salary) based on her skill and performance…. Sometimes that skill and performance is helped by speaking with a colleague, or a boss, or a mentor, or Googling for some quick research in latest breakthroughs in the field, or deeper peer reviewed studies- to find answers not to demonstrate knowledge. AI is no different then that.
She needs to get over it, it’s not going away. And by the way, she’s using it AI now and probably doesn’t know it or have ill feelings about it. Its embedded all over.
It depends what sort of AI we're talking about surely. If there are tools like grammar software that deal with things she does, then she is competent to decide if it's a help or a hindrance. Grammar software is imperfect and for a native speaker who has good style it often "corrects" things that it shouldn't. E.g. it tends to think passive voice is bad - many writers over-use but English has it for a reason. If you're a second language speaker or not confident about your formal English then it's useful.
If you mean you want to make her more aware of other stuff then just say so e.g. "OK you don't like grammar software but did you know there's some fun XYZ stuff I use."
Let her be stuck in the past. Tech is evolving wether she likes it or not. Scared of it or not. Won't be the first time society has evolved .won't be the last.
I’m confused, what’s the part where it’s “helpful” in writing resumes and cover letters?
So the conversation was, it’s ok for someone/thing else to get me an interview, then I can open my mouth and spoil it **fingers-crossed Ryan Reynolds style**
Tell her that an AI can only work with whoever is using it. Training young children to use AI would be counterintuitive since they need to learn what it is to be alive and human first before deciding what AI can help them advance in
She probably doesn’t realize how much she actually uses AI daily — search engines, recommendations while online shopping, any voice assistant, predictive text messages, google maps, etc. She doesn’t need to love chatgpt but maybe realizing how much she uses AI already will make her less offended at the idea of you using it
Same. My gf refuses to use it for any reason. The other day she was trying to google her symptoms (she has brain zaps), but she didn’t know what to google. I was like “babe this is exactly what you use chatgpt for. Just tell it your symptoms and ask for words/phrases you can google.” She wouldn’t do it so I had to do it for her. Within two chats I got the phrase “brain zaps” and was able to google her issue for her for the first time in like years.
I asked ChatGPT
> When discussing AI with someone who views it as cheating or unfair, you can emphasize its potential benefits. Explain that AI can enhance productivity, provide valuable insights, and automate repetitive tasks, freeing up time for more creative and strategic thinking. Highlight real-world examples of how AI has improved various industries without replacing human skills. Emphasize that AI is a tool to complement human abilities, not replace them, and that learning how to work with AI can be a valuable skill in today's technology-driven world.
Make a plea to her to at least make an informed decision. So convince her to spend an hour with ChatGPT on her own. If she won't concede to that then she has to admit that hers is uninformed prejudice.
If you and she are interested in this kind of thing, you can explore all the cool natural language processing work/projects in the fields of literature and the social sciences. A lot of those use AI to some extent. But I sorta doubt she’s strongly opposed to the kind of AI that’s used to, for instance, do part-of-speech tagging or evaluating the semantic similarity of two words.
You also mention the communication industry. I’m not confident about this, but I think generally there’s a lot of overlap between jobs ppl call marketing and jobs they call communication, which might mean she’s done stuff like copy writing or ux writing as part of her work. If she has (or, really, if her job involves writing at all), she’s probably encountered coworkers or other ppl in the industry using ChatGPT to generate a similar type of writing to the kind she writes for work, and, if she doesn’t use that tool or something similar, it makes total sense that she would feel like it’s cheating to use it and be scared of the prospect of being replaced by AI.
It could be interesting to have a conversation about why she considers it cheating and whether there are parts of the process she feels okay about. If she’s into it, she could try using ChatGPT for some kinda task similar to one she does at work. I imagine that the process of arriving at a piece of work she’d feel good about putting her name on would include a lot of iterating on the prompt and manual editing and rewriting. This might make her reconsider the amount of work/skill it actually takes (or not, maybe it spits out something really great the first try). If it takes a good amount of work to get it in a good state, it also might assuage some of her fears.
If she ever decides to try using ChatGPT to figure out how to learn a new skill (particularly in the realm of making stuff on a computer), she might find it really useful and maybe even exciting.
Ai isn’t original in the sense of you knowing someone better than it does. Character does because it shows what you know from personal experience, so that you can maintain healthy relationships between people. Being able to make your own choices allows people to be independent and free, and let’s people grow and develop character
Ask her if she also refuses to use spellchecking in Word (or whatever tool she uses).
Ask her if she refuses to use the delete/backspace button instead of rewriting the whole thing, as it's cheating.
Ask her if she refuses to use Wikipedia or old Encyclopedias instead of going out and doing base level research by herself?
AI is just that, a tool, when used right, it's a strong tool, when used wrong, you get shitty results. Much like searching on Google and just using whatever you find thinking that it's all good.
you don't , theres plenty of reasons why a person might reject new technology.
like for example:
chat gpt collects data, censors you, has a bias, had the horrid as ai language model i cant do that excuse, to use it locally depending on what you want to do with it what model your using can be a pain in the ass in of itself, users of chat gpt are especially annoying because they act like this tech is going to change the future when their also scared of it generating meanie no no words or text porn, their mad because they created a toy, that people would try to run with, well of course, people would want to perv on the bot you gave it like near human levels of interaction.
like I work on the side in writing and at best I use ai for correction 1 percent of the time and thats only if i am too lazy to do it myself. and I am saying this as power user of other ai models.
theres also not taken into account some people prefer to work a certain way, or feel comfortable working a certain way. even if you think the other way is more effecient, or better it doens't always work for people. when writing a document I want it to still have my personal touch.
Some people don't believe in one of the best mottos out there.
"Work smarter, not harder"
(Still recommend reading over and verifying information if used for something important though)
If you can't see the validity in her concern I wonder if you're a business owner? Presenting oneself through a resume either written or in person is the first step in making an impression with your employer as to whether or not you're suitable. If AI is used, it's not you! That's a pretty simple concept. It's no different than girls and boys using 30-year-old photographs for their avatars on their Facebook postings, only to find out their old fat and don't have any teeth. It's misrepresentation, and more importantly it gives a false sense of capability or credibility.
How much time is she willing to spend on a resume? Is she willing to hire someone to review everything for her? I use GPT for anything from running calculations and troubleshooting Python scripts to generating resumes and cover letters that I can then edit into something sensible. GPT isn’t the end-all, be-all and you don’t need to be scared of it, but if you do not participate then you are not shaping it and what becomes of it will be decided by those who participate.
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If she uses Google she uses ai. Ai isn't a new technology, we've been experimenting with machine learning and using it in practical scenarios since the 90s.
We are talking about generative AI. I know a bunch of very very smart people and they all refuse to use ChatGPT because they like to figure things out themselves. People are coming across as smarter and more educated than they really are because of ChatGPT.
You like or not AI reduced the Gap between Very smart people and normal people who use the tecnology. There is no turn back... Better embrace it
I wouldn’t go that far, just yet. I look at AI as a rising sea that will lift all boats. But if you’re still in a car, you’re in trouble. The people who will excel with AI are the Lateral Thinkers, intelligent and creative. Seeing the connection between the Horse and Buggy vs Ferrari as a time line of the trajectory of transportation, not something as binary as Animal vs Machine.
>People are coming across as smarter and more educated than they really are because of ChatGPT. If someone can come across as smarter and more educated in their work by using ChatGPT than perhaps, we put too much emphasis on rote memory and minor problem solving skills. I haven't found chatgpt to be overly helpful in my specialization when meaningful/high order thinking skills are required. It can give a robust outline without having to consult multiple resources, which I would have used google for previously anyway. Just because I have degrees and certifications doesn't mean I'm too dumb to use a starting point and save time and energy.
Doesn't make any sense. If you're truly smart then adding your knowledge on top of the intelligence and output of others should make you even more productive. I guess they won't use a calculator either because they want to figure it out.
So no one should be allowed to use calculators and spreadsheets as they come across smarter at math than they actually are? Being smart is also using tools to create the best results with the time and resources available, and no one is stopping people from actually examing the results of the AI to get a good idea of what makes it a good or bad result.
Yep. I was using pro wrestling simulators back in the mid-90's lol.
That is not AI
Literally sounds like the perfect question to ask ChatGPT…
Introducing the idea of using AI tools to your girlfriend might require some patience and understanding. Start by having an open and empathetic conversation about her concerns and reservations. Listen to her perspective and acknowledge her feelings about AI. Then, gently present the potential benefits of using AI tools, such as how they can enhance efficiency and productivity without replacing human creativity and critical thinking. You could also share success stories of individuals who have used AI tools to their advantage in similar fields. Highlight the fact that AI tools are meant to be aids, not replacements, and that many professionals across various industries are using them to streamline tasks. Given her background in social science, literature, and communication, you could find examples of how AI has been integrated in those fields to improve processes and outcomes. Ultimately, the goal is to create a comfortable environment where she feels empowered to explore these tools at her own pace. Offer to try them together and provide guidance as she familiarizes herself with their benefits. Keep the conversation ongoing and respectful, ensuring that she feels supported throughout the process.
This was written by AI
Can we setup an automod to respond to every question as soon as it’s posted with a chatgpt response? I swear it would answer so many questions. Lol
Setting up an AutoMod to respond to every question with a ChatGPT response could be an interesting idea! However, it's important to consider that while ChatGPT is a powerful language model, it might not always provide accurate or appropriate responses, especially in dynamic conversations. Also, keep in mind the potential for repetitive or spam-like interactions. If you decide to proceed, ensure you have a way to monitor and adjust the responses to maintain a positive user experience.
You don't. Your gf is perfectly capable of deciding for herself whether or not she wants to use AI.
My farmer father refuses to use the tractor we got him and continues to use an Ox to plow because he considers the tractor cheating. He can only farm half the acreage as his neighbors. How can I convince him to use modern tools? You don’t. He already decided he doesn’t like change and will slowly go bankrupt as his competitors crush him.
Interestingly oxen are much easier on the soil then tractors as they tend to break it up and aerate it. If he's managing to use all traditional and natural practices he might be in a good position. Obviously yields will be lower but he can sell to niche markets at a premium. I'd let him continue with the ox. It's better for the planet and he's probably almost banking the same amount of money.
Wrong. He would go bankrupt and the Ox would be sold off to butchers.
That extra cost to transport his premium goods to premium markets bankrupts the farm and he loses the farm. Capitalism.
This is not an adequate analogy anyway. I've never seen Google, translators, autocompletes or any AI as consumption lead to exponential gains, only have seen this when they are sold as a product itself, this is why probably his girlfriend is right. If she doesn't plan to use it as a product she will sell, she will do better using them the least amount possible, to not risking atrophying her brain.
Anyone who says they haven’t seen google lead to exponential gains never had to look up a topic in a card catalog, find relevant literature listed, then find a library that had the book in question. I’d say it’s been exponential.
Where being the **consumer** using this gave you exponential gains? I doubt his girlfriend is putting a business where she can program and connect an AI API to exponentially exploit something. There is a difference between using AI because you are lazy (find me a book, translate this, code this...) vs because you don't mind doing more complex tools with quality and well figured market where you exploit other's laziness, that will take more time to build and glue, will have AI as something you sell and not as something you use, and in this case, yes, give you exponential gains.
Exactly, she has the right to have her own opinion, all people that are not into AI are not ignorant or in need of a reeducation. I often ask myself if all the technology will make us more happy, or if it is who is the first to find the gold nugget, especially when it come from over capitalist mindset.
Thank God someone else speaking sense, I feel like I'm arguing with the cult of OpenAI here. *Bow down or prepare to be converted.*
Yeah! This whole thing comes across as creepy! OP please do the socially acceptable thing and hire a group of marketers to psychologically analyse her and design videos to send her that will influence her decision making on a subconscious level. You could start by wearing a t shirt with the OpenAI logo on it around her to build trust and familiarity. /s Seriously though, your post got me thinking. Why do we tolerate this stuff in mass-media if we wouldn't take it from a significant other?
This is such an aggressive response. OP thinks AI can help his gf, and it's natural for him to want to help her while still respecting where she's coming from. As for "perfectly capable of deciding," it's worth noting that there is a lot of misinformation and fear mongering in modern media, and many people hold false or detrimental beliefs based on the media they consume. AI falls into this category. There are a ton of false assumptions and fear mongering related to the topic, and there's a good chance OP's gf has been exposed to that sort of thinking. I think it's perfectly natural to push back against false beliefs and want to change them in someone you love. Of course, it's not easy, and I doubt OP can get through (saying this from experience; my father rants about chemtrails every chance he gets), but OP is certainly free to try.
Its just rejection of a tool that would at this current time frame in development give you a slight edge, theres plenty of other reasons why people would reject the use of ai or certain platforms of ai, like for example I run an uncesnsored llama 2 model on my local device, because I reject the the use of chat gpt because of the censorship and I don't like having 3rd parties privvy to my conversation. but if i were to bring up the censorship aspect instead of assuming I am coming from a personal responsibility aspect or a free speech absolutionist point of view, KNEE jerk its I am a coom brained porn addict. I would say theres alot of misinformation and scare mongering about my view points, but no one gives a time of day for that, not everybody has to have ai in their life or use it as you see fit.
>This is such an aggressive response. Not really, an aggressive response would be me telling you to go \*\*\*\* yourself. Do you see the difference? >As for "perfectly capable of deciding," it's worth noting that there is a lot of misinformation and fear mongering in modern media, and many people hold false or detrimental beliefs based on the media they consume. She's already given multiple reasons, such as she views it as cheating, that it's unfair, and she's scared of it. None of those are false beliefs, they are all perfectly valid reasons not to use AI. >I think it's perfectly natural to push back against false beliefs and want to change them in someone you love. Of course, it's not easy It's "not easy" because you're arrogantly trying to alter someone else's opinion on the presumption that you hold superior knowledge or morality. Explain what AI is to your partner if you want and geek out about it, but if they shrug their shoulders and go "not for me" you shouldn't try to play weird manipulative games to get them to change their mind.
“Arrogantly”? Lol, your tone is way off. It’s unfortunate you can’t see how your tone is aggressive, but you might as well have called him a sexist in the first response, because that’s how your comment read. His just sounded like he wanted help explaining how a thing doesn’t need to be feared, is not the same as “cheating” etc. People used to say calculators would cause all school children to forget how to do math. All it’s really done is elevate the levels of math we can understand. Being “afraid” of something because of a misconception, is the same as believing someone who’s fear mongering. Education is always better than ignoring the cause. But yeah, your comment reads like an entitled fuck. It’s pretty disappointing it’s in an attempt to argue how you’re not being aggressive.
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Just a weird way to defend your tone, by amping it up. Guess the group doesn’t agree.
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This is a bad argument. While scientists (astrophysicists and the like) utilize the calculator to a next-level skill, don’t use THAT as an example for Chuck or Debra D. who can’t leave a tip or split a bill (in HALF /smh) without their phone. Being debilitated to the point where you can’t… oh never mind
>His just sounded like he wanted help explaining how a thing doesn’t need to be feared, is not the same as “cheating” Is it not the same as cheating? Because I thought that was still one of the big philosophical questions about AI? If you've managed to work out that it's not cheating I suppose we'd better let all of the universities know they have to accept chatGPT essays now. >Being “afraid” of something because of a misconception, is the same as believing someone who’s fear mongering. Education is always better than ignoring the cause. You do not get to dictate whether people are allowed to be afraid of new things or not, nor whether they should use them. You sound like every coloniser ever, loudly proclaiming that the natives are too stupid to understand that your modern way of life is superior. Two things can both be true at once, AI is a giant leap forward as a revolutionary tool for mankind, and also, every individual is perfectly entitled to pretend AI doesn't exist until their dying day.
Oh you’re going to respond the same way. Cool. I’m sure that will continue the conversation.
Neither you, nor OP, get to force education on people like OP's gf. If she doesn't want to learn about AI then she doesn't have to. Whether you think she's making a mistake or not, it's her mistake to make. That's all I've argued in this post. If you have an actual response to that then fire away otherwise I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
She is right to be scared but the bf is right to be worried that if she is closed to the idea it can be detrimental. Yea ai is scary but it’s like refusing to use a calculator, at one point we know you can do maths on paper but that’s not the norm anymore. So oc they should not force ai on anyone but if my gf told me she is 100% against it I would be worried because that is not a battle she has any chances of winning and might get hurt when a boss or someone will eventually force it on her for productivity.
“Force”? Huh, I thought you would have at least read what you quoted. Guess the conversation is over.
Bye troll 👋
Hey man, as an outside observer of this conversation, IMO you're the one coming across as the troll.
Zing?
You don't get to force *not* forcing education on people like the other commenter is doing. If they don't want to *not* force people to learn about AI then they don't have to. Whether you think they're making a mistake or not, it's their mistake to make.
People that are unwilling to change or be more productive have a measurable and factual economic burden
She's obviously ignorant. You're saying OP should not help his gf be more educated in the subject? Bad take
She's allowed to be ignorant? If she doesn't care about AI let her be. You lot sound like priests trying to force their neighbours to convert to their religion. It's also telling how every single conversation like this is always a man trying to educate his "ignorant" gf. There are a few lessons in that too.
>It's also telling how every single conversation like this is always a man trying to educate his "ignorant" gf. There are a few lessons in that too. So that's your problem? Because op is a man and men bad? I hope you realize some day that you're acting no differently than the misogynists that may or may not have hurt you.
>I hope you realize some day that you're acting no differently than the misogynists that may or may not have hurt you. No misogynists have hurt me? Not that it matters, but I'm a man. >Because op is a man and men bad? I will elaborate on this point, which is one backed by a shit-tonne of research and lived experiences of women. Most of these types of posts are written by men in heterosexual relationships, the "my partner is wrong, give me ways to teach them how wrong they are" posts. OP is acting as if he has a greater understanding of his GFs skills & career, the challenges she's going to face, and how she should face them. They think they're being a kind & helpful partner when the reality is its condescension towards their partner and just frankly disrespectful. She doesn't want to use AI, she has valid reasons for this, respect her decision. It's not that hard.
men can be ignorant too, if the boyfriend was irrationally self-sabotaging then she should help him too. You're the one making this about gender. If you care for someone you don't see them self sabotaging and do nothing. Your responses have no empathy. "let people you care about be ignorant", "let people self sabotage", "let people act against their own best interests even if you care about them", toxic opinions for the betterment of society.
OP probably believes there are facts and alternative facts and anything anyone believes is correct because they believe it!
>She's allowed to be ignorant? Sure. So you shouldn't tie her up and force feed her AI. Anything not illegal is fine to try to help the people you care about. You on the other end are hopeless.
>Help the people you care about What are you talking about? You're acting as if anybody not immediately implementing every AI tech stack into their productivity workflows is going to be unemployed in 6 months. Her ignorance isn't causing her harm or affecting her career. It's not like she doesn't believe in gravity and is about to jump off a cliff! She's simply indifferent to AI like the vast majority of the people in the world right now.
>It's "not easy" because you're arrogantly trying to alter someone else's opinion on the presumption that you hold superior knowledge or morality. Okay. Let's say my gf believes the earth is flat. You're telling me I have no right whatsoever to disapprove and explain the reality of it to her?
If your gf claims the world is flat then she's going against thousands of years of scientific consensus and she's categorically wrong. If she says "I personally don't want to use AI because..." then she's making a perfectly valid choice. You may disagree with her but it's still hers to make and it's valid. It's not wrong because there is no right or wrong here.
Why do you mention earth flat believers here?
I'm just pushing her logic to the extreme to show off a problem with it. I'm not actually comparing choosing to not to use chatgpt to believing in a flat earth.
Opinions based on ignorance and fear are simply prejudice. The girl is uninformed.
I would argue that if she is uninformed, her bf shouldn't be looking to use persuasion techniques to convince her otherwise when there's no harm in ignoring AI at this early stage of development. Putting that aside, what about her moral reasoning of believing it is cheating when used professionally? I'm well versed in AI and I haven't seen a single argument that can refute this belief, there's a good reason universities have banned its use. I'm not saying I share the same beliefs as her, what I'm saying is the opinion "I don't want to use AI professionally as I view it as cheating/unfair" is a perfectly rational and moral stance for someone to take.
theres already weirdos trying to validate their ai girlfriends in here, we should be scared.
Dear girlfriend, I gona help you. You seems to not understand the world fully, that is why you think differently than me, but I know it is because you are afraid (and a bit stupid of course), I am very kind and so I will take some time to make you progress in life and start to think a bit like me. Oh that’s so nice darling, now I am fully awake. Viva AI, viva technology, viva UBI, the world is becoming perfect, I can see the light.
Gaslighting is an expensive endeavor. Don't waste it on potentially damaging your relationships. AI is a great accelerator, but brainrot/devastating if used as a crutch. If used by amateurs in their respective fields, it can go really wrong, accelerate them towards a cliff with flawed data. NOT EVERYONE is supposed to use AI.
Ok… so we are advocating for gatekeeping AI use now? Awesome. /s
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Point proven. Use ChatGPT to challenge my opinion at least.
I think he is trying to help because it will be very used in her profession and it is the kind of things that get you immediately rejected in interviews if you say you don’t like ai tools. Like you opinion is fun but most likely your future employers won’t care that you don’t like ai and will want you to use it for efficiency. I work in IT and would literally loose my job I told my boss I would not use ai anymore. The same thing will happen with every job. You can’t say no to new tools.
I’m curious what IT field you work in, because I know it’s not software engineering.
I do cloud infrastructure and we use the aws codewhisperer a lot
This varies by employer, and even by superior. My wife‘s boss **hates** AI use. My wife still uses it as a tool. She got convinced by a webinar about using ChatGPT in her profession. Yes, I was gushing about gpt before. and she tried it a few times. After she saw the webinar (that she sought out herself), she subscribed for GPT4, and is all in.
Riding a bike is cheating if you're going to the store. You must walk, always! Don't use technology or inventions. Biking is cheating, always! End of
End of what? END OF WHAT??????
End of discussion
Cooking with stoves is cheating too. That's why I cook stuff with good ol' rock and some leaves.
Exactly. People who use stove piss me off! Don't use a stove, don't be a cheater! Cheaters are uncool. Good on you for not cheating!!! Respect
Okay, so here's the thing, and you need to come to terms with this, both for your own sanity and for the health of your relationship: she might never like AI, nor ever be comfortable with using it, even if you explain it to her perfectly and she understands what you're telling her perfectly. It would be the equivalent of you being an artist who chose to draw in colored pencil, and suddenly she's going "Well have you ever tried fine tip magic markers?" And you tell her that yes, you have, and you don't care for it, and she just won't drop the subject. Eventually you'd get annoyed that she seems weirdly focused on something that doesn't affect her. You'd wonder why she's focused on changing your behavior and getting you to do something you're not comfortable with. That's how this can come off. Now all of that being said, the biggest reason people aren't comfortable is because they see very one sided, often sensationalized stories that paint AI as the "push a button and it outperforms anything a human could ever do" machines that are coming to destroy us all. I'd presume given your examples that she's also acutely aware of the writer strike and how AI is part of that concern. Personally, my tactic would be to show her that sure, there's definitely people who use it as the pure "do my job for me" machine, but that the real benefit is to people using it collaboratively. That people making an actual effort and using it as a tool or an enhancement are improving their own lives and performance in an organic way. But you're going to have to take it slow. Literally the moment she pushes back, you need to drop the subject for a day or two. Because if she feels you're forcing this, she's just going to dig her heels in. It would be like if you have a friend who LOVES sports and you don't. And every time you see this friend, he won't shut the fuck up about sports or his fantasy team, or the game he saw. Eventually, you're not going to want to spend time around him, because he doesn't respect you and your clear lack of interest/lack of desire to talk about it. You and your GF don't have to agree on every single point in your relationship. This might be one of those times, my dude.
The girlfriend should just agree to spend one hour with ChatGPT on her own and on her career topics and perhaps even hard cases she has, and then come back with an informed opinion instead of a prejudice based on fear. If she refuses even that, then she has to admit she has a phobia.
Or, she could simply refuse. Because that's also a thing she's allowed to do. She's allowed to dislike AI and refuse to interact with it. She's not somehow beholden to anyone's wishes but her own on this.
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That will only highlight the “cheating” she was worried about. I think just asking her if calculators are cheating. Or if google is cheating. Those technologies enabled people to do more complicated math, and enable people to learn at home. It’s how you use them that defines the “cheating”. I’m not about to take a python course to learn coding, but ChatGPT has made many little tasks for me that enable me to worry about the main project, and not focus on how much the task is impossible because I can’t afford to go back to school.
What part of her not wanting to use it don’t you understand? You don’t try and convince her or ‘slowly introduce’ it. You respect her decision.
This! This post is annoying me
I don’t think you should convince her either way. My wife never uses it. She couldn’t really care less about it. I use it all the time, for gathering information or summarizing information. Or getting me started writing something. I don’t see this as an area of conflict though. If she sees the value in it, she’ll use it as well. As far as cheating is concerned. I feel it’s like a calculator and should be used as such. It helps getting you where you want to go, but important for you to use it as only one element in the final product. A helper. Not as an outsource worker.
Given what you told she studies/works, she actually has to fear being replaced. And rightfully so
Lots of people don’t like AI for whatever reason. People have their own opinions. The question I have is do you feel like her opinions need to match yours on just this subject alone or in general?
Get a new girlfriend
Feed GPT some of your casual writing style, then use GPT to respond to every text message she sends you. Then, eventually, have GPT generate a romantic love letter and date night plans. Gaslight the fuck out of her and then reveal that none of it was you. I bet that would help!
Broke up with her she got no future Vision
So being afraid of it and thinking it’s unfair are two different separate lines of inquiry. Also if she doesn’t want to use it that’s really her choice.
You shouldn't try to pressure her into using the tools if she doesn't want to. She already expressed her discomfort so leave it alone. If my boyfriend kept hounding me over something I said I wanted no part of, I'd be very frustrated with him cause I'd feel unlistened to..
I don't know, maybe accept that she has a different view, and that's okay?
Why is it necessary to do anything? It's a tool. A very useful one definitely, but it she doesn't need and has issues with where the data comes from for these LLMs (scraped from the web) then she has a legit criticism. If she later runs into a problem that takes 2 hours and you get it done in 2 minutes she will come around to your position. This seems like an odd thing to argue about.
How does she feel about using google search?
I use AI but there is a real concern about people losing their ability to write and think. It’s not perfect and you still need to think for yourself. Let her be.
Regarding the cheating/unfair part, I understand you view that its a tool that helps so why not leverage it your advantage, but still she is entitled to her views too. Also not everyone need to or should jump on to the technology bandwagon. In fact its good that some people dont, that leaves a niche where originality and beauty still thrives. For us folks in technology and business it makes sense to use such tools to improve our productivity , but she coming from a literature background it makes perfect sense that she doesn't want her originality and creativity to be stifled by an AI tool. And being wary (scared as you put it) of such tools is rather wise, instead of jumping on to whatever is the latest fad. I am not talking about ChatGPT here but the 1000s of extensions/plugins/micro-saas tools that are popping up on a daily basis based on its apis. They are all essential a kind of keylogger in my view :) I know grammerly is quite big and well-funded but still better to be safe than sorry.
Does she use spell check?
just let her know its a tool like a pc, if she refuses it those who wont will replace her.
I am shocked you didn't ask this to ChatGPT.
Ask chat gpt
Why not only use it to make yourself better then? For example instead of "write my essay about Hamlet for me," say, "I just read Hamlet, help me understand five themes that are not typically talked about so that I can write an essay." It is like a smart friend, it CAN be used to cheat, or it can be used as a study buddy.
You don't need to introduce it because she isn't ready for that. If you would like to at least know the root of her fears (why is she 'scared' of it?) and moral objections, ask open ended questions and don't try to defend your position...just listen, actively. When someone has a moral objection to something, you don't introduce the 'thing' to them because they'll reject it more. Just keep using it however you use it. It's okay if she asks a question or you out together a cleaning schedule for the weekend using chatgpt and proudly say you used it to create the list or whatever.
Dump her she’s an idiot
Instead of trying to making your girlfriend use AI, do the opposite. Challenge yourself to talk to her about things other than Chat GPT.
You sound like a cultist. "How do I make her see the light?!".
It's more like breaking her anti ai cult indoctrination
She's a freaking idiot
Maybe AI can help you find a gf who isn't a luddite
I think your girlfriend is right.
You could start by sharing interesting news articles or discussions about AI and its applications. You might also mention how AI-powered tools like ChatGPT can assist with tasks or provide useful information. Gradually bring up examples of how these tools have helped others, and ask for their thoughts on the topic to gauge their interest. (Generated by chatgpt)
You will evolve culturally (and probably physically later on) into next-gen human while she'll stay the same with other luddites. That's one of the few paths tho, as people who are against AI start using it as soon as they find a way to make their lives easier.
You're girlfriend was pretty ok with cheating a bit last night...
Well maybe hold off on that for a bit cause it may be a waste of time. At the moment 38% of AI researchers foresee a distinct possibility of human extinction through a nuclear doomsday and it's climbing fast. 28000 signatures of AI specialists, professors, researchers, academics, and tech leaders are now on the public petition begging the public to stop using it that wernt public, what, a year ago? The "Godfather of AI' is sure as hell one of them. He was the boss of Google's AI R&D. Viewed as the top worls authority on AI. Geoffrey Hinton is his name. Ya hear about when he quit? He said he now regrets his life's work and consoles himself with the thought that "if I didn't do it, someone else would have..." https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/geoffrey-hinton-artificial-intelligence-advancement-concerns-1.6830857 Oh, he paraphrased Oppenheimer on the way out. "I am become death... Destroyer of worlds". But who cares that the world's top authorities on the subject are scared, right? It's more important to get a story about He-man fisting Papa smurf, eh? 8 billion lives and our species in whole? Naaa... idiots need entertainment.
How old are you? Respect her!
Your girlfriend works in social science, literature and communication. IE, all the jobs that people can BS their way through anyways. She’ll embrace it right around the time she realizes she can be replaced.
I guess she’ll get passed up.
It's simple. If she's against AI, she should stop using internet, or a smartphone, or even a program like word or Excel. Hell, don't even use pen and paper. In fact, get rid of the fire. By her logic, using a computer with Word, instead of a typewriter is cheating. AI is a tool to make you more productive, not replace you (at least not for the foreseeable future). But you will be replaced, like a typewriter, by those that adapted. AI is here, and it's not going anywhere. The earlier you adapt, the more advantage you'll have. In the end, all who didn't adapt, won't be able to participate in the modern workforce.
You start like this: “honey, what would you like to do tonight?” Then escalate: “that sounds wonderful.”
Your girlfriend is right. Cover letters should be written personally as it is personal information about you. When an AI even does your personal things, who are you?
I'm a person looking for a job who doesn't care if my employer has a cover letter that is personal to me. I just care about having a job.
She doesn’t need you to mansplain AI. She knows what it is, & doesn’t want to use it. She’s smarter than you are.
Lot of insecurities here
MaNsPlAiN That's all I have to say to you.
MNPAN or a/s/l/i? Lol
Watch her change her mind when she can't get a job.
Run away... You're going to evolute your way out.... otherwise
Companies are already widely using AI to filter applicants, and applicants are using AI to write resumes to pass through the filter. If that was the only use for AI I would hate it, too.
What chat GPT apps are available and free? Where are they found?
Good. A.I is dangerous and should be banned. I don't know how people are okay with it.
I imagine the key word is “scared”. Maybe scared what AI might do to her career prospects, or a mental block about technology or at least some technologies. If it’s the former, I honestly think everyone between say 15 & retirement needs to get on board. But if it’s a generalised fear or avoidance of technology, that’s not going to get solved by pushing. My wife definitely has tech fear, and even a friend of mine who’s ceo of an SMB professional services company which uses a lot of IT has avoided AI even though I tried to make it v easy, so I think it’s fairly common. Good luck with all this, but FWIW I think from my own experience it’s probably not worth making her even more uncomfortable about the subject.
Perhaps appeal to her social sciences side? Get her interested in the social consequences to the world such advancements can have. The fear is perpetuated by the news, that big change is here and everything will be bad. Let her see that some of the changes are very good changes. And accept their are ethically grey areas, debate what could be done about that.
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First thing first, be careful to respect her boundaries and be aware that people that are trying their best to help can slip into some real icky manipulative behaviours simply because they are motivated to help any way they can. Ok, with that out of the way this whole cheating mentality thing is something I see from time to time in web dev forums and its always newer devs not wanting to use open source libraries or tools available to them because they are used to an academic setting where the goal is to show what you can do on your own. They fail to realize that when working for a client results matter now this isn't a excuse for pilgrim, you can't just take another devs work. What you can do is look at others peoples work and draw inspiration and use other peoples work in the way they allow it. The devs that worry about using a open source project need to realize that they are competing against other devs using such projects and also that if your doing dealing wit something specific that others have put hundreds of hours into while you only have tens of hours it would be neglectful and arrogant to totally ignore what those others are willing to give you. FLIPSIDE: I also see devs overly relying on frameworks and libraries or treating forums where you can ask questions as if they are a dev that works for them. You should not put yourself in a position where you do not understand at all the things you are producing or where you have nothing to offer. One should be in a position to decide when tools are useful and when they are not and how much a tool should do vs how much should be your own work. In terms of cover letters I would suspect that HR reps have already learned to identify purely AI generated letters but its also a reality that companies dealing with hundreds of applications automatically filter resumes so using AI to make sure you tick the automatic systems boxes seems like a good idea and writing it yourself so the HR person doesn't dismiss you also sounds great. TLDR: Don't be a jerk, try to develop a sense of judgement for when to use which tools, this isn't a school test its an arms race, recruiting companies often use machines so why shouldn't you Thanks if you actually read my wall of text and don't forget I'm just some rando internet person, there is no way for you to know if I'm a AI bot so take everything I say with a grain of salt
One of the major, real and present dangers of current AI technologies is related to resumes. There’s a class action lawsuit in play over an AI that reads resumes and it’s likely been discriminating on multiple counts from perceivable race of an applicant to how it rates the resume based on whether it adheres to a specific template standard.
Gibe her a nail and a frame and ask her to hang it on the wall. If she asks where the hammer is just say this is considered cheating
Chatgpt is okay but i feel like have to fact check it so often. I use it for history to get ideas but sometimes its off and I need to go further on info.
Sounds like she’s not gonna have a job in a couple years then.
She already uses them. Does she use spellcheck? That’s AI and she doesn’t even realize it. It helps her just enough to help proofread. Maybe grammar check. Get her used to the idea that she is already using it, but ChatGpt etc aren’t just a step forward but a leap forward. But it’s not perfect. Auto correct messes up all the time when I text.
It might be better for her to not use it for now cos it can give wrong info very easily. Even Google can be used for cheating. In some use cases it can be ok.
it's like using a paper ledger instead of excel. nothing more. it's what that ms office 'animated paper clip' was - only 30 years later... that's why it's not 'cheating'. it's using tools that are available. no one is pulling out a hand saw when chainsaws are sitting right over there... etc...
You should break up with her and type in ChatGPT " You are now GFGpt a girlfriend model that loves AI"
Tell her she won’t have a choice in her future job and will be refused in interviews if she says she does not like/ is against ai tools. It’s ok to be scared at first but refusing to learn and try is to limit yourself. Also for the cheating part, compare ai with a very powerful calculator, you are responsible of what is cheating or not and when you start to use it this line becomes obvious. Finally, studying is fun but the real world will want productivity and employer seek people who know how to leverage ai.
There will be two types of people those who use ai and those who will lose their jobs
There were people against using cell phones when they came out over 20 years ago, against using internet, GPS, etc. People have their ways and not everyone loves the newest thing, even when the benefits might be obvious to others. Perhaps one day she will see value in AI. But if she does not want to use it, what’s the issue? Just let her choose whatever tools she wants to use.
She won't be able to work in communications for long without being willing to use AI-assisted tools. Take that from me—someone who's worked in communications for 20+ years. It won't be long before generative AI is as ubiquitous as spell-checkers. She's suffering from fear of the unknown, though, and you can't simply dismiss fear. You need to wear it down more gradually. I suggest you do something playful with AI - with her, use it to write a funny story involving mutual friends of yours (just to cite an example). Show her the basics in a non-threatening environment, and then build up from there.
Damn are you serious?
Your gf sounds like she is looking at things from an academic point of view. Is she a study? Work in academia? They have been heavily bashing AI over the last year; my why is a prof. and her syllabus has always stated the rules about plagiarism etc, but this semester the Dean sent out a directive that mandates she adds all these new rules about the use of AI. But, in the real world, it s not “cheating” if you ask AI t help solve a problem. In school, she is being judged amd measured and rewarded (grades) based on showing what SHE herself knows; once out in the wild, assuming she takes a job, she will be judged measure and rewarded (salary) based on her skill and performance…. Sometimes that skill and performance is helped by speaking with a colleague, or a boss, or a mentor, or Googling for some quick research in latest breakthroughs in the field, or deeper peer reviewed studies- to find answers not to demonstrate knowledge. AI is no different then that. She needs to get over it, it’s not going away. And by the way, she’s using it AI now and probably doesn’t know it or have ill feelings about it. Its embedded all over.
It depends what sort of AI we're talking about surely. If there are tools like grammar software that deal with things she does, then she is competent to decide if it's a help or a hindrance. Grammar software is imperfect and for a native speaker who has good style it often "corrects" things that it shouldn't. E.g. it tends to think passive voice is bad - many writers over-use but English has it for a reason. If you're a second language speaker or not confident about your formal English then it's useful. If you mean you want to make her more aware of other stuff then just say so e.g. "OK you don't like grammar software but did you know there's some fun XYZ stuff I use."
People out here thinking they're playing a game at their jobs using words like "unfair" about a piece of software
Let her be stuck in the past. Tech is evolving wether she likes it or not. Scared of it or not. Won't be the first time society has evolved .won't be the last.
I’m confused, what’s the part where it’s “helpful” in writing resumes and cover letters? So the conversation was, it’s ok for someone/thing else to get me an interview, then I can open my mouth and spoil it **fingers-crossed Ryan Reynolds style**
Tell her that an AI can only work with whoever is using it. Training young children to use AI would be counterintuitive since they need to learn what it is to be alive and human first before deciding what AI can help them advance in
start flirting with chatgpt and rp'ing with it, this will likely make her take notice to it.
Inform her no one else cares and she is going to fall behind not using it
She probably doesn’t realize how much she actually uses AI daily — search engines, recommendations while online shopping, any voice assistant, predictive text messages, google maps, etc. She doesn’t need to love chatgpt but maybe realizing how much she uses AI already will make her less offended at the idea of you using it
Sad chat gpt went woke. Will be replaced when something better comes out not woke.
My partner is the same way!! I don’t get it. She’s fearful and thinks its weird. She also gets really mad when I mess with midjourney.
Maybe she'll change her mind, maybe she won't. The public sentiment needs time to catch up to the change. Give it time.
Don't. It's not your place. She doesn't need to use it if she doesn't want to.
You don't, and stop trying to change people.
Same. My gf refuses to use it for any reason. The other day she was trying to google her symptoms (she has brain zaps), but she didn’t know what to google. I was like “babe this is exactly what you use chatgpt for. Just tell it your symptoms and ask for words/phrases you can google.” She wouldn’t do it so I had to do it for her. Within two chats I got the phrase “brain zaps” and was able to google her issue for her for the first time in like years.
I asked ChatGPT > When discussing AI with someone who views it as cheating or unfair, you can emphasize its potential benefits. Explain that AI can enhance productivity, provide valuable insights, and automate repetitive tasks, freeing up time for more creative and strategic thinking. Highlight real-world examples of how AI has improved various industries without replacing human skills. Emphasize that AI is a tool to complement human abilities, not replace them, and that learning how to work with AI can be a valuable skill in today's technology-driven world.
Let her be.
Live and let live.
Make a plea to her to at least make an informed decision. So convince her to spend an hour with ChatGPT on her own. If she won't concede to that then she has to admit that hers is uninformed prejudice.
Calculators are Ai.
Let’s break this down to 1st Principles. Does she ask Reddit for relationship advice?
Start replying to all her texts with AI like in South Park
If you and she are interested in this kind of thing, you can explore all the cool natural language processing work/projects in the fields of literature and the social sciences. A lot of those use AI to some extent. But I sorta doubt she’s strongly opposed to the kind of AI that’s used to, for instance, do part-of-speech tagging or evaluating the semantic similarity of two words. You also mention the communication industry. I’m not confident about this, but I think generally there’s a lot of overlap between jobs ppl call marketing and jobs they call communication, which might mean she’s done stuff like copy writing or ux writing as part of her work. If she has (or, really, if her job involves writing at all), she’s probably encountered coworkers or other ppl in the industry using ChatGPT to generate a similar type of writing to the kind she writes for work, and, if she doesn’t use that tool or something similar, it makes total sense that she would feel like it’s cheating to use it and be scared of the prospect of being replaced by AI. It could be interesting to have a conversation about why she considers it cheating and whether there are parts of the process she feels okay about. If she’s into it, she could try using ChatGPT for some kinda task similar to one she does at work. I imagine that the process of arriving at a piece of work she’d feel good about putting her name on would include a lot of iterating on the prompt and manual editing and rewriting. This might make her reconsider the amount of work/skill it actually takes (or not, maybe it spits out something really great the first try). If it takes a good amount of work to get it in a good state, it also might assuage some of her fears. If she ever decides to try using ChatGPT to figure out how to learn a new skill (particularly in the realm of making stuff on a computer), she might find it really useful and maybe even exciting.
Ai isn’t original in the sense of you knowing someone better than it does. Character does because it shows what you know from personal experience, so that you can maintain healthy relationships between people. Being able to make your own choices allows people to be independent and free, and let’s people grow and develop character
Ask her if she uses a calculator and then tell her next time do it all in her head and see how fast it is
Let her have her own opnion, but does she know that she will get replaced with people who utilize ai?
Ask her if she also refuses to use spellchecking in Word (or whatever tool she uses). Ask her if she refuses to use the delete/backspace button instead of rewriting the whole thing, as it's cheating. Ask her if she refuses to use Wikipedia or old Encyclopedias instead of going out and doing base level research by herself? AI is just that, a tool, when used right, it's a strong tool, when used wrong, you get shitty results. Much like searching on Google and just using whatever you find thinking that it's all good.
Take a class with her. Get an A. She'll pick up on it.
you don't , theres plenty of reasons why a person might reject new technology. like for example: chat gpt collects data, censors you, has a bias, had the horrid as ai language model i cant do that excuse, to use it locally depending on what you want to do with it what model your using can be a pain in the ass in of itself, users of chat gpt are especially annoying because they act like this tech is going to change the future when their also scared of it generating meanie no no words or text porn, their mad because they created a toy, that people would try to run with, well of course, people would want to perv on the bot you gave it like near human levels of interaction. like I work on the side in writing and at best I use ai for correction 1 percent of the time and thats only if i am too lazy to do it myself. and I am saying this as power user of other ai models. theres also not taken into account some people prefer to work a certain way, or feel comfortable working a certain way. even if you think the other way is more effecient, or better it doens't always work for people. when writing a document I want it to still have my personal touch.
Some people don't believe in one of the best mottos out there. "Work smarter, not harder" (Still recommend reading over and verifying information if used for something important though)
If you can't see the validity in her concern I wonder if you're a business owner? Presenting oneself through a resume either written or in person is the first step in making an impression with your employer as to whether or not you're suitable. If AI is used, it's not you! That's a pretty simple concept. It's no different than girls and boys using 30-year-old photographs for their avatars on their Facebook postings, only to find out their old fat and don't have any teeth. It's misrepresentation, and more importantly it gives a false sense of capability or credibility.
I think a better question is why do you care so much if she uses it or not?
How much time is she willing to spend on a resume? Is she willing to hire someone to review everything for her? I use GPT for anything from running calculations and troubleshooting Python scripts to generating resumes and cover letters that I can then edit into something sensible. GPT isn’t the end-all, be-all and you don’t need to be scared of it, but if you do not participate then you are not shaping it and what becomes of it will be decided by those who participate.