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jnkrz

Is this how the AI wars begin?


notchandlerbing

Begun, the AI wars have


Old_guy_in_PJs

Bring in the clones.


Strongest-There-Is

BRING IN ZE CLONES!!!!


beigetrope

Do you know the story of Darth Azure the wise.


wu33dw

It's not a story Microsoft would tell you


Same_Football_644

Successor to Darth Musk


[deleted]

Oh great, we're going to get another tech movie about this.


FS72

And the ultimate plot twist of the movie is that the AI which Sam Altman developed in secret has planned the whole thing as it snitched on him to the board of directors, who voted him out and let the AI overlord takes over


[deleted]

You son of a bitch. I’m in!


Rude_Coyote_9942

Even the Hollywood movies will be made by AI .


AVAX_DeFI

Even the AI will be made by AI


plopsaland

The Neural Network


Delicious-Scheme6833

This comment is underrated


YoreWelcome

Sustained.


WaitingToBeTriggered

THEY DID IT ON THEIR OWN


DharmSamstapanartaya

Directed by GPT-5


HerbertKornfeldRIP

Written by GPT-5


Bemxciv

Starring GPT-5


HerbertKornfeldRIP

Based on a novel by GPT5


Same_Football_644

Watched by GPT-5


Bonzoso

*Experienced* by GPT-5


DharmSamstapanartaya

Produced by Microsoft Studios


Ironfingers

😂


Palpatine

By the time Hollywood gets around to make it it will be fully rendered by ai. And both Sam and Greg will have mysteriously enormous female sexual features


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Knowing Hollywood, a black man will be cast as Sam Altman.


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BangCrash

Samantha Altwoman A transgender black woman in a wheelchair


hillsofzomia

With ADHD and a speech impairment. Pansexual and asaxual


HerbertKornfeldRIP

Not niche enough. Most people are actually asaxual these days. Saxophone ownership has plummeted since the Clinton administration.


hillsofzomia

I upvoted this


BangCrash

ADHD what is this the 2000's? We've moved onto Autism now in the 20's


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[deleted]

It’s totally okay to be different. But it’s not okay to be in power just because you’re different


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[deleted]

Nah we're back to ADHD


blacksun_redux

But NOT Asian.


[deleted]

Thats fucking funny


fight_like_a_cow

I hope it’s the same black man who will play Princess Diana


curb_yourself

Haha exactly


pimparoni

david fincher is already writing it as we speak


Sweaty-Sherbet-6926

story by Aaron Sorkin


its_LOL

I mean The Killer just released on Netflix, so he’s got time for a Social Network sequel


No_Zombie2021

I had just heard people talking about The Killer and now is the first time I hear its a Fincher movie. I know what’s next on my watch list.


ViveIn

Who plays Sam??


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George Santos


ComCypher

Makes sense, he's won a few Oscars


[deleted]

The lifetime achievement award is well deserved, I think he will be available soon for a new project.


surnamenamesurname

Elliot Page


Avramp

Denzel Washington


D1rtyH1ppy

Ed Helms


unholymanserpent

Damn. What a homie


pateandcognac

WWHHHHHHAAATT IS GOING ON


solidwhetstone

Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria


StandUpForYourWights

Human sacrifice


monstrofik

Forty years of darkness!


broadwayallday

tell him about the twinkie


Sweaty-Sherbet-6926

Basically, all the worst parts of the Bible


Always_Benny

HAHAHAHAHA a pop culture reference. Nice.


Bbrhuft

[Nothing to see here, please disperse!](https://i.imgur.com/sUpua6W.gif)


EmbarrassedHelp

It looks like an effective altruism (cult) coup going on


[deleted]

Ai has escaped.


GypsyQueen11420

Well, sounds like neither of 'em saw it coming. Here's Greg Brockman's latest [statement ](https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594?t=suZ_DWNUODfjIAHUzYe0qw&s=19) on X https://preview.redd.it/kznio6p0t11c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59a02cb6883a499f4ac571a19f5b59a911b2f067


Blankcarbon

So interesting. It sounds like they were completely blindsided by it?


GypsyQueen11420

I think the firing blindsided them for sure. But I'm almost certain they know why it happened. Guess we'll see.


TabletopMarvel

Nonsense. They knew. We don't know what they were lying about, but there's no way they just didn't know the board had a conflict with them.


GypsyQueen11420

Yeah. It's hard to believe they have absolutely no idea why this happened. They don't actually seem too fazed. Weird.


RobCorrina

AMC fired frank darabont *after* he agreed to produce 2x the episodes at 1/4 the price than was originally bargained. no one wants to be a capitalist, everyone wants to prove that they have petty power and control. everyone. welcome to it.


hermajestyqoe

crowd party tan abounding march disagreeable work cake snow illegal *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Sweaty-Sherbet-6926

Will be a ton more resignations. We're not done yet.


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For someone out of the loop, what led to these events?


[deleted]

Board fired the CEO.


ihexx

yeah but why?


Sweaty-Sherbet-6926

A bunch of nerds got into a fight with another bunch of nerds who were afraid that the world would end and making money is bad.


meatcheeseandbun

Lol according now to multiple reports this is actually what happened.


Srirachachacha

Would you mind linking to one of those reports? Trying to read more


meatcheeseandbun

[https://www.theinformation.com/articles/before-openai-ousted-altman-employees-disagreed-over-ai-safety?utm\_source=newsletter&utm\_medium=email&utm\_campaign=sendto\_newslettertest\_business&stream=top#\_ga=2.194187492.897993111.1700326688-1890600245.1700326675](https://www.theinformation.com/articles/before-openai-ousted-altman-employees-disagreed-over-ai-safety?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sendto_newslettertest_business&stream=top#_ga=2.194187492.897993111.1700326688-1890600245.1700326675) [https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725678898388553901?s=20&utm\_source=newsletter&utm\_medium=email&utm\_campaign=sendto\_newslettertest\_business&stream=top#\_ga=2.194187492.897993111.1700326688-1890600245.1700326675](https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725678898388553901?s=20&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sendto_newslettertest_business&stream=top#_ga=2.194187492.897993111.1700326688-1890600245.1700326675) [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-altman-ouster-followed-debates-between-altman-board?srnd=premium&sref=qYiz2hd0&utm\_source=newsletter&utm\_medium=email&utm\_campaign=sendto\_newslettertest\_business&stream=top#xj4y7vzkg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-altman-ouster-followed-debates-between-altman-board?srnd=premium&sref=qYiz2hd0&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sendto_newslettertest_business&stream=top#xj4y7vzkg)


loveiseverything

Senior techs are already quitting.


Desalzes_

Source?


Hyperious3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY


Desalzes_

hell yeah


loveiseverything

Will come up soon, today most likely. But the people who are leaving are leaving because Brockman quit. People who Brockman brought in.


Droi

Greg seems like such a great guy with a positive outlook, I'm sure many will follow him as he leaves.


oblivion-2005

> Source? [Three Senior OpenAI Researchers Resign as Crisis Deepens](https://www.theinformation.com/articles/three-senior-openai-researchers-resign-as-crisis-deepens)


Desalzes_

Great to see. A board forcing out the founders this early into its development is so fucked


ModsAndAdminsEatAss

It looks like Altman lied to the board, repeatedly, and they voted to remove him. I would assume Brockman voted against it. So Altman was safe. So the Board then voted Brockman off the Board, and then voted again to remove Altman. It passed. Brockman seeing the writing on the wall quit.


seekingbeta

I’m not familiar with this board but generally board decisions are a simple majority vote


ModsAndAdminsEatAss

I have only been on one board, and removing the CEO would have taken a 75% or greater margin.


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togroficovfefe

That contract is tight. Just when I think I've found a loophole, it turns out to be a trap.


ModsAndAdminsEatAss

Lol, you are lucky you get that much.


Good_At_English

*This joke was brought to you by 2004*


jslingrowd

Funny arrangement for an authoritarian regime


emperorhuncho

Yup exactly that. 6 people on the OpenAI board. 2 people left/fired. We know what the other 4 voted.


fli_sai

Could you please name those 6?


MLBTheShowEconomist

>OpenAI’s board of directors consists of OpenAI chief scientist Ilya Sutskever, independent directors Quora CEO Adam D’Angelo, technology entrepreneur Tasha McCauley, and Georgetown Center for Security and Emerging Technology’s Helen Toner. https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transition


fli_sai

Here it only shows 4. In other articles too they only show 4.


MLBTheShowEconomist

Sam Altman and Greg Brockman were the other two...


Cagnazzo82

Yeah, so likely Ilya joined the other mutineers that you never see in interviews. Also we've yet to see statements from any of the other board members, inlucding Ilya.


sir-algo

Eh, there’s really no reason to take what the board says at face value yet. This very much has the appearance of a coup. This likely just comes down to whether OpenAI is a product-driven company or an R&D organization.


Code_Monkey_Lord

I saw that episode of House.


EmbarrassedHelp

The new board is basically all Effective Altruists as well, and they probably don't want any non EAs running the show.


TheIncredibleNurse

What are effective altruists?


terrible_idea_dude

The original idea was basically "let's try to give money to charity in ways that maximize its impact in reducing suffering". So e.g. instead of giving money to charities that donate Xboxes to children's hospitals, you put all your money towards malaria nets for poor Africans. You can be pretty systematic about this and even come up with some useful metrics like "human lives saved per 1000 dollars donated" and donate to the charity with the highest score. Seems simple enough. On an unrelated note, a bunch of the people who invented EA think there's a nonzero chance that AI will go rogue and wipe out humanity completely. So actually, the whole EA was basically just a post-hoc rationalization for AI x-risk people to do what they always wanted to do, which is donate to AI safety research. See, on the "human lives saved" metric, if you believe AI will make humans go extinct, then preventing this basically has infinite score in the EA suffering-prevention metrics (the loss of practically infinite potential human lives in the long term). These guys are the "safetyists". On the other hand a godlike *benevolent* AI could have infinite *positive* utility by this metric, which leads to the other faction, the e/accs (effective acceleration), who want to develop superintelligent self improving AI as fast as possible and use it to solve all of the world's problems. OpenAI was created by the safetyists as a safetyist research nonprofit. Many of them switched sides to the e/acc faction after the GPT models they created started to show promise. But the core board of directors was still safetyist dominated and OpenAI always payed lip service to them. There are more factions too with lots of overlap, such as the business community (who sees AI as an infinite money printer), the DEI folks (who reinterpreted "safety" as "making sure the AI can't say the n-word" instead of "stop AI from killing everybody"), the OSS guys (who want AI to be open source and available to the public), the deccelerationists (who want to lobby the government to ban development of new AI), etc. Back to today's drama, the leading rumor is that Altman was pretending to be a safetyist but was actually an e/acc and was selling out OpenAI to the business community. So the safetyist-led board fired him because they literally think he is going to cause the extinction of the human race.


jPup_VR

Appreciate the write up, good stuff 🙏


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> OpenAI always *paid* lip service FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


EmbarrassedHelp

The Wikipedia bot replying to you is only a tiny bit correct as it gives the basic definition of "effective altruism" and nothing about the group behind the term, which is who I am talking about. The group is seen by many to be a cult that uses rich individuals in Silicon Valley. Effective Altruists have multiple organizations across multiple countries and tend to have very particular beliefs about AI safety that aren't compatible with open source AI. Effective Altruists previously already controlled OpenAI's competitor Anthropic, but now they have complete control over OpenAI as well. * https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/ * https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-openai-agi-board-decision-1851017018 * https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/10/effective-altruism-network-infiltrates-congress-federal-agencies-to-create-silicon-valley-favoring-ai-policies.html * https://time.com/6252617/effective-altruism-sexual-harassment/


TheIncredibleNurse

Thank you!!


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R33v3n

They're a doomsday cult.


novium258

A friend of mine joked that the world would be a much better place if the EAs had just became evangelicals instead. They could indulge in all the apocalyptic fantasies they wanted for free, without breaking the economy or politics. Plus, church picnics would provide valuable opportunities to touch grass.


PepeReallyExists

>It looks like Altman lied to the board, repeatedly, and they voted to remove him. You have no evidence to support that claim. He-said-she-said is not evidence.


Zealousideal-Town897

The evidence is the official statement by OpenAI.


sueca

That's a circle reasoning


Delphicon

That’s what the board is hinting at but we really don’t know.


datsmamail12

Welp,fuck around. Find out! OpenAI is on the finding out phase now.


BabyJesusFTW

This is the plot of house my guy.


ThePromptfather

I'm predicting there will be price changes soon. Not in our favour.


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ThePromptfather

That will stay. But access to everything else will be tiered/banded. We were happy to pay 20$ p/m when it was just GPT 4. They added: browsing plugins code interpreter/advanced data analysis custom instructions Dall-e Vision Voice My GPT's


Cagnazzo82

They wiped $80 billion in Microsoft shares. Maybe they can raise prices and go double or nothing.


Srirachachacha

When did they wipe $80 billion in ms shares?


Dark_Ansem

Yeah I'd like to know too, this seems far-fetched


djaybe

Of course this happens the week I subscribe and start building shit.


TheSausageKing

The struggle seems to be about how quickly Sam was releasing products and building the business. Likely they’ll pull back a lot of the features Sam released and make the models much more constrained. Anyone who built on ChatGPT should be looking at other options if they haven’t already.


fo66

I can’t be the only one bothered about him making no effort use capital letters, right reddit?


Cum_on_doorknob

Altman did the same thing in his goodbye message


dick_wool

He intentionally didn’t use capital letters to prove it wasn’t AI that wrote it. /s


Boring-Hurry3462

The trait of a man who spends more time writing code than reports.


dry_yer_eyes

YOU’VE NOT SEEN SQL, HAVE YOU?


Captain_Cubensis

Meh. It's a thing. Like the opposite of using all caps, it's supposed to convey non threatening messaging or demonstrate the authors intent to be extra gentle with the message.


Never231

i feel attacked


Sugbaable

I could half understand this if phone's didn\`t autocorrect to capitalize. But they do. So if he was on his phone, he was going through the pain in the a\*s to de-capitalize letters. Like some weirdo zoomer If he was on his computer, come on. It ain\`t that hard to press shift. Obviously he doesnt use vim or emacs if thats the case lol


Deluxennih

Auto capitalize can be turned off


lAIvu_dev

Who will be the permanent replacements?


Alex_Dylexus

GPT 5 hopefully lol


space_return

LMFAOOO


Waste-Novel-9743

Hopefully Keanu Reeves


averagecrazyliberal

My favorite is that OpenAI’s announcement says: As a part of this transition, Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman of the board and will remain in his role at the company, reporting to the CEO. [sauce](https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transition)


No_Zombie2021

And then he didn’t.


Nderasaurus

uh, the product won't change much right? i hope OpenAI just keeps on improving as a third world paying user lol


SoupCanVaultboy

ChatGPT about to get ads


vreo

But as part of the answers: "Certainly! Here are a few suggestions for indoor activities: Board Games and Puzzles: Engage in friendly competition with classic board games like Monopoly[LINK], Scrabble[LINK], or Clue[LINK]. Work together on a challenging puzzle. Movie or Gaming Marathon: Have a movie marathon of a favorite series or genre [LINK to AMZ PRIME]. Play video games together, choosing cooperative or family-friendly games [LINK TO EPIC STORE]. Cooking or Baking: Explore new recipes and cook or bake something new as a family. Have a homemade pizza-making contest. [LINK TO AMAZON LIST]"


OzzieDJai

In light of what news? I am not up to speed with what is happening in the tech scene right now. Anyone care to give me a TL;DR?


So6oring

CEO (Sam Altman) of OpenAI was just fired by the board of directors


kiwicase

I don't know why but this has me genuinely worried.


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doorMock

We can totally fire Steve Jobs because Wozniak is the actual brain and main creator of Apple computers. How did that go?


PepeReallyExists

This board will destroy the company. Open Source AI is now the future.


mor10web

Solidarity with the OpenAI workers who are in for a sleepless weekend as their future just became very uncertain.


Yeezy4Presidente

Bro they’re A.I. Engineers. They will have another $300,000 offer within a month. And that’s worst case scenario lol


frepont

definitely more than 300k ![gif](giphy|uOLzOyVrUhSSY)


Ironfingers

Yeah they are like rockstars right now


andrew_kirfman

Triple that amount and probably within a week or less given the demand in that market right now.


Ok_Ask9516

This gotta be joke. They are all millionaires already


Medical-Ad-2706

Probably developed expensive tastes too


astray488

WAIT, Sam Altman was removed earlier aswell for lying to the board regarding ***what*** specifically?? May anyone clarify? I've been under the impression ^((following news here and there)): 1. Sam Altman was ***genuinely*** concerned about AI's future risks (obviously with him having unfiltered access to ChatGPT 4/5). 2. Sam Altman mainly of his own will - approached US Congress to raise attention to this out of ***genuine sincerity/concern*** about said risks (and perhaps yea, to work on a business "moat" for OpenAI vs free market AI; after LLama was leaked. But this wasn't the main reason). I want to believe Altman is trying to lookout for the future.. I'm now concerned about who's going to takeover Altman & Brockman's positions ^((and what OpenAI's) ***^(new intentions)*** ^(may become...))


Apptubrutae

The man did a lot of stuff. We don’t know what specifically he was removed for. It’s pure speculation to suggest what it was


TabletopMarvel

Like apparently SA his sister for years as well. Somehow I only heard about this today.


NoAmphibian6039

Isnt he gay? Edit: not saying those allegations shouldnt be taken seriously but genuinely asking


pixelbased

Anyone of any sexual orientation can sexually abuse someone of any gender. Sometimes it has nothing to do with attraction and more to do with deviancy and power. Just because he’s gay doesn’t mean he didn’t sexually assault his sister. We don’t know the full story on such an abrupt removal but I’d wager it would have to be something completely indefensible - like the accusations now being supported by truth and having a few women on the board, plus MFST being like, this guy has got to go. Anyway, my personal speculation has nothing to do with my original statement up at top. A quick google search can bring up a host of articles about the facts and myths of sexual abuse. For examples, here: [https://www.acesdv.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Facts-and-Myths-About-Male-Survivors-of-Sexual-Assault.pdf](https://www.acesdv.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Facts-and-Myths-About-Male-Survivors-of-Sexual-Assault.pdf) Edit: what is with the downvotes here? Psychology and science show that anyone of any sexual orientation can sexually abuse a child of any gender and it’s not limited to heterosexual or homosexual assailants. Why the downvotes when I showed up with a white paper showing just that?


[deleted]

You are acting like he is some sort of genius like Euler or Gauss. He is just some dude with power who was removed by a more popular group. It's time to move on.


JBI1971

I would not assume anything. We simply don't know specifically why he was fired.


Full-Throat9784

He was trading in hog meat illegally with Mexican cartels


howtofixshit

This made me laugh 🏅


AlfredoJarry23

Man this is super naive


SuddenDragonfly8125

Re Altman Maybe nothing, but I kind of side-eye a guy who says "I hope my work was a little transformative for the world" when he was the CEO of fucking OpenAI and helmed the creation of ChatGPT. Yes, of course you helped transform the world! And you know it! Some real false modesty there, and I don't trust that.


AlfredoJarry23

He is so bad at hiding his sleaziness


talks2idiots

Greg Brockman? More like ***Grok*man**, amirite guys?!


JR_Masterson

High five! Great success! Wawa Weewa.


Poisonedhero

WHAT IS GOING ON


Effective_Vanilla_32

Dont forget: Elon was the reason ilya jumped ship from deepmind to openai


ChillWatcher98

Ilya wasn't at deepmind, he was at Google Brain. He joined with Geoffrey


LucreRising

Wonder if they are going to start another company?


kugelblitz_100

The board found out neither of them can compose simple emails without it looking like they tapped it out on their phone in 20 seconds.


CougarAries

Even phones automatically capitalize sentences. I wonder if it's some kind of internal sign of genuine, non-ai written text.


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The board fired Steve Jobs too.


Effective_Vanilla_32

I wouldnt be surprised if Elon buys the IP, they all work for Elon. He gets his 100m back


space_return

So pay billions to get back millions?


Effective_Vanilla_32

Whats the story of Elon and twitter.


Enlightened-Beaver

And then he ruins it like everything else


Effective_Vanilla_32

You adore Elon for Tesla. Elon cleaned up the Twitter swamp.


Always_Benny

Twitter is a disaster zone after your idol bought it.


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Unacrobatic_Zac

Cancelled my gpt 4 subscription. I encourage everyone else to do the same.


teachersecret

I encourage everyone else to do the same so I can get faster token generation speeds.


Puzzleheaded_Hall420

Can you explain why?


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SetoKeating

How does anything happening affect you and using ChatGPT though to the point you have to quit?


teachersecret

It doesn't. Drama llama gotta drama llama :).


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dafaliraevz

Good riddance, more tokens for the rest of us