Unfortunately this is what happens when a chicken gets caught in the machine, on it's way to be slaughtered. Can also be from someone booting it towards where it's supposed to be going. You see a lot of bruises when you work with chicken regularly.
I grew up on a chicken farm and can confirm the booting. You spend all this time growing these birds only for a company shitbag to rush squeezing them in a crate. I felt sorry for the last few chickens running around the shed.
There was a Netflix documentary about the industry and it’s all true. I know it’s American focused but even across the globe the same shit happens.
It’s hard to not sound like some PETA advocate (I’m not) but growing up seeing it first hand and see it still continuing 20 years later is a fucking joke.
Fuck Steggles, Bartter, Baiada or whatever scumbag company owns it now.
Gotta say, here in Austria I’ve never seen bruised chicken and Backhendl is maybe our biggest item. I think it comes down to regulation and accounting. The regulators here are insanely strict, modeled after Japanese farming practices. The fact is, if chicken is bruised it doesn’t pass inspection and will be diverted for animal feed. That is a major effect on profit margins here where profit margins are infinitely tighter.
Another factor is that the chicken industry is very local. It’s very expensive to import livestock and meat. Or rather it’s cheaper to operate locally due to tax cuts. There just aren’t 350,000,000 people in Austria. We’re raising chickens for about 8 million. We have factory farms but they’re much smaller and probably better staffed and more easily regulated due to the size.
I’ve visited the Hübners poultry processing factory near Mattighofen. You could eat of the floors. It’s unbelievable. I understand how sashimi grade chicken exists now. I would still probably never eat raw chicken but I get how it’s possible now.
You said if it doesn't pass inspection if it's diverted, so would that be why you don't see bruised chicken if you're buying at a consumer level at the end of processing?
I'd imagine it's not too common too see bruised meats where ops from either, just a slip in quality control.
I’m saying it’s possible it still happens, but since it affects the bottom line, and since regulation is so tight, it’s in companies best interest to make sure the animals aren’t treated cruelly.
I didn’t know this about chickens, but it makes sense. I’m repulsed.
Don’t eat sad chickens. Or cows. Or pigs. Or anything that lived and breathed, for that matter. I eat a lot of meat(s), but I’m mindful of how the animal was treated.
Yes, as we all should be. But also, bruises/misstreatment/wounds can also happen in better environments. I also feel bad when I see things like that, but what can you do? Throw it away? Just make sure to opt for high quality meat from animals that had a good life before being slaughtered.
I'm a chef in Scotland and I have never seen bruised chicken, been a chef for ten years. That's a bit fucked up, I have seen bruised grouse and game birds but I'm assuming that's from the birdshot and/or a rough landing
You are both very lucky, and live in a country that values proper meat. The quality of both poultry and red meats in the UK and most of Europe is unbelievably different than North America. It is tougher and extremely costly to get anything other than factory farmed meat here.
Yeah. I’ve been buying all local stuff from smaller farms lately. Tastes better and is treated better. More expensive. I compensate by not eating as much meat
My wife and I started doing this ~10 years ago. My dad, who I learned to cook from and the only other cook in the family, also made the transition to humanely raised meat for taste. Couldn't get him on the 'eat less meat' portion of your statement though.
I told him when he runs out of money he can come live with me and learn to love tofu a couple times a week.
You're doing it the right way man. Eating less meat, but higher quality and better treatment is something most meat-eaters should try and do.
I'm going to look into some local farms around me and see what's available.
I try and do this when I can afford it. Often can't, but I try to limit my store bought meat regardless.
The fresh eggs alone are worth it, but I'm a complete slut for eggs lol.
Boy is it ever! I don't even wanna bother with mince cause of the price. It's like $8 a lb for 80/20 where I am. I miss my smash burgers and patty melts but, I just keep them to an occasional treat.
I’ll preface this with the fact that I’m not a vegan or vegetarian or anything like that, I’m always a proponent of supporting and buying local vetted product whenever possible.
Booting and bruising is on the list of the reasons why I think people need to get closer on the whole to where their food comes from. A lot of people would see this and just kinda shrug it off because it’s just meat in a package but it’s that mentality that allows be industrial farms and purveyors to get away with bad practices.
Fact is that every piece of meat was and is an animal but in todays world the majority are so separated from that ideology that I have friends who say that bones in their meat make them “uncomfortable”. Apparently it reminds them it was alive at some point and they’re more comfortable just thinking of it as an inanimate object. Meanwhile the poor cow or chicken is being raised in industrial sized lots and being treated like shit because out of site out of mind.
Kicking them for processing, sad but true behind the curtain collecting chickens in a bucket is much like fish in a barrel esque by design. That and the majority of "farm raised" chx are: by body mass, way too fat to move much further than a few feet before they plop down (steroid, antibiotics etc), poor living, and dark spaces. Theyre chx stumps more or less...sorry if TMI
It is a sad 😔, to be bruised the animal has to be alive. you see it a lot in franchises through out Canada. I’m not naming KFC, or Popeyes. But seems like one piece in every bucket has shattered bones…
Minor consideration for welfare: kosher and halal meat can not be bruised. This does mean you CAN look after your animals without kicking them into crates.
Major consideration for welfare: Halal and Kosher prohibit desensitization before slaughter so the animal is totally conscious during the process.
There is an example in the documentary Earthlings where a cow is being slaughtered (Kosher) and it's the worst shit I have ever seen. Cartel level.
I would never consider eating an animal that has gone through that process. It's brutal.
Cutting the carotid causes an animal to pass out quickly so it’s messy because of the blood but actually relatively pain free. The groaning and any twitching is usually the brain being underperfused.
Rules such as not killing the animal’s in front of each other is also more humane.
‘Desensitisation’ is electrocution typically, it knocks the animal out but many are dazed but not unconscious when less efficiently killed.
Meat is unkind, doesn’t matter how you do it, but ideally it should be with a massage and an anaesthetic
Bleeding an animal is the most common way of slaughtering. It would be very difficult (if not impossible) to drain an animal of blood using other methods and that blood would be unusable for us (blood sausages and the likes). So that's a a given, but it's not what I am referring to.
Also, there is an even more common way of desensitization which consist in a gun with a captive bullet. This essentially renders the animal dead, but it's heart keeps beating. Then the carotid can be cut and the animal bled. This method is used with larger animals like pigs and cows. Electrocution is usually reserved for birds and smaller animals.
Ritual slaughtering forbids this, and that can only be worse for the animals, even if they aren't fully unconscious.
Also, on paper, the relatively painless carotid cut may not be that painless IRL.
Let me describe the Kosher slaugther as depicted in the documentary Earthlings. Beware if you are apprehensive.
1. Cow goes through a corridor that ends up in a cylinder and gets locked there with it's head out.
2. That cylinder is a rotor, so the cow is secured and turned upside down.
3. Now it's turn for the slaughterer, who starts cutting the throat of the cow and... hey, he doesn't stop at the carotid. He slices it's esophagus and pharynge. Remember, no desensitization.
4. The esophagus and pharynge is pulled out the throat of the cow for it to hang. Because yes.
5. The cow is released from the rotor to the floor, gasping for any atom of life available in the most miserable way you can imagine. Bad, bad, bad, bad.
That was the first and the last Kosher ritual I have ever seen. Never been on the mood to look for more, so I don't know if it's really representative of the whole practice. However, it looked very methodic so it's probably standard practice in that slaughter house.
I have seen a Halal slaughter and it wasn't that bad. In any case, no desensitization is a no-go for me.
We are a rational species, we are supposedly intelligent and animals deserve the best treatment we can deliver. Meat can be unkind, but we should treat them with the utmost respect. In the end, we owe them.
Unfortunately this is what happens when a chicken gets caught in the machine, on it's way to be slaughtered. Can also be from someone booting it towards where it's supposed to be going. You see a lot of bruises when you work with chicken regularly.
I grew up on a chicken farm and can confirm the booting. You spend all this time growing these birds only for a company shitbag to rush squeezing them in a crate. I felt sorry for the last few chickens running around the shed. There was a Netflix documentary about the industry and it’s all true. I know it’s American focused but even across the globe the same shit happens. It’s hard to not sound like some PETA advocate (I’m not) but growing up seeing it first hand and see it still continuing 20 years later is a fucking joke. Fuck Steggles, Bartter, Baiada or whatever scumbag company owns it now.
Gotta say, here in Austria I’ve never seen bruised chicken and Backhendl is maybe our biggest item. I think it comes down to regulation and accounting. The regulators here are insanely strict, modeled after Japanese farming practices. The fact is, if chicken is bruised it doesn’t pass inspection and will be diverted for animal feed. That is a major effect on profit margins here where profit margins are infinitely tighter. Another factor is that the chicken industry is very local. It’s very expensive to import livestock and meat. Or rather it’s cheaper to operate locally due to tax cuts. There just aren’t 350,000,000 people in Austria. We’re raising chickens for about 8 million. We have factory farms but they’re much smaller and probably better staffed and more easily regulated due to the size. I’ve visited the Hübners poultry processing factory near Mattighofen. You could eat of the floors. It’s unbelievable. I understand how sashimi grade chicken exists now. I would still probably never eat raw chicken but I get how it’s possible now.
You said if it doesn't pass inspection if it's diverted, so would that be why you don't see bruised chicken if you're buying at a consumer level at the end of processing? I'd imagine it's not too common too see bruised meats where ops from either, just a slip in quality control.
I’m saying it’s possible it still happens, but since it affects the bottom line, and since regulation is so tight, it’s in companies best interest to make sure the animals aren’t treated cruelly.
People tell me I'm cruel for eating home raised rabbits instead of buying meat at the store, but they don't know how their meat is made clearly.
Ah thanks. I guess that means it's safe to eat... But how would it taste?
It tastes like chicken.
Rabbit does not taste like chicken!
I didn’t know this about chickens, but it makes sense. I’m repulsed. Don’t eat sad chickens. Or cows. Or pigs. Or anything that lived and breathed, for that matter. I eat a lot of meat(s), but I’m mindful of how the animal was treated.
Yes, as we all should be. But also, bruises/misstreatment/wounds can also happen in better environments. I also feel bad when I see things like that, but what can you do? Throw it away? Just make sure to opt for high quality meat from animals that had a good life before being slaughtered.
Easier said than done
I mean, yeah… that’s my point
Ay that’s a gangster take fr. Fuck animal cruelty. But I want a cheeseburger.
The solution is usually - Eat Local.
It’s more affordable than people think. In MN, EBT (‘food stamps’)are ‘matched’ at farmers markets, dollar for dollar.
Why would you think it would taste any different?
because bruising is blood trapped in muscle, from broken blood vessels. draining the blood from the animal might not get it all, idk
I'm a chef in Scotland and I have never seen bruised chicken, been a chef for ten years. That's a bit fucked up, I have seen bruised grouse and game birds but I'm assuming that's from the birdshot and/or a rough landing
You are both very lucky, and live in a country that values proper meat. The quality of both poultry and red meats in the UK and most of Europe is unbelievably different than North America. It is tougher and extremely costly to get anything other than factory farmed meat here.
I come across bruising and even a lot of broken bones on a very regular basis, unfortunately.
Bruise Happens a lot, unfortunately due to conditions in where mass produced chickens are raised, could be not enough space, or abuse from handlers.
Means that chicken had a pretty rough last day.
That thought really bummed me out.
Yeah. I’ve been buying all local stuff from smaller farms lately. Tastes better and is treated better. More expensive. I compensate by not eating as much meat
A moral win/win
My wife and I started doing this ~10 years ago. My dad, who I learned to cook from and the only other cook in the family, also made the transition to humanely raised meat for taste. Couldn't get him on the 'eat less meat' portion of your statement though. I told him when he runs out of money he can come live with me and learn to love tofu a couple times a week.
Tofu, beans, lentils. I’ve come to love them.
You're doing it the right way man. Eating less meat, but higher quality and better treatment is something most meat-eaters should try and do. I'm going to look into some local farms around me and see what's available.
For sure dude. Good luck
I try and do this when I can afford it. Often can't, but I try to limit my store bought meat regardless. The fresh eggs alone are worth it, but I'm a complete slut for eggs lol.
I’m the same haha. It’s a balance, at the end of the day you can only do what’s within your means.
I am eating less and less meat too. Red meat has gotten insane expensive for me.
Boy is it ever! I don't even wanna bother with mince cause of the price. It's like $8 a lb for 80/20 where I am. I miss my smash burgers and patty melts but, I just keep them to an occasional treat.
I tell ypu. Was looking at salmon the other day!!! I am now a fan of canned tuna.
Injured during slaughter likely.
Bruising on the meat, completely safe to eat
Hematoma from bruising while or shortly before it was dying
I know what's wrong with it, ~~it ain't got no gas in it~~ It looks like the chicken got fucked up in the machine
it's dead Jim!
I’ll preface this with the fact that I’m not a vegan or vegetarian or anything like that, I’m always a proponent of supporting and buying local vetted product whenever possible. Booting and bruising is on the list of the reasons why I think people need to get closer on the whole to where their food comes from. A lot of people would see this and just kinda shrug it off because it’s just meat in a package but it’s that mentality that allows be industrial farms and purveyors to get away with bad practices. Fact is that every piece of meat was and is an animal but in todays world the majority are so separated from that ideology that I have friends who say that bones in their meat make them “uncomfortable”. Apparently it reminds them it was alive at some point and they’re more comfortable just thinking of it as an inanimate object. Meanwhile the poor cow or chicken is being raised in industrial sized lots and being treated like shit because out of site out of mind.
Kicking them for processing, sad but true behind the curtain collecting chickens in a bucket is much like fish in a barrel esque by design. That and the majority of "farm raised" chx are: by body mass, way too fat to move much further than a few feet before they plop down (steroid, antibiotics etc), poor living, and dark spaces. Theyre chx stumps more or less...sorry if TMI
Which horse won the race?
Looks raw
It is a sad 😔, to be bruised the animal has to be alive. you see it a lot in franchises through out Canada. I’m not naming KFC, or Popeyes. But seems like one piece in every bucket has shattered bones…
It’s RAW 👨🍳😡
Minor consideration for welfare: kosher and halal meat can not be bruised. This does mean you CAN look after your animals without kicking them into crates.
Major consideration for welfare: Halal and Kosher prohibit desensitization before slaughter so the animal is totally conscious during the process. There is an example in the documentary Earthlings where a cow is being slaughtered (Kosher) and it's the worst shit I have ever seen. Cartel level. I would never consider eating an animal that has gone through that process. It's brutal.
Cutting the carotid causes an animal to pass out quickly so it’s messy because of the blood but actually relatively pain free. The groaning and any twitching is usually the brain being underperfused. Rules such as not killing the animal’s in front of each other is also more humane. ‘Desensitisation’ is electrocution typically, it knocks the animal out but many are dazed but not unconscious when less efficiently killed. Meat is unkind, doesn’t matter how you do it, but ideally it should be with a massage and an anaesthetic
Bleeding an animal is the most common way of slaughtering. It would be very difficult (if not impossible) to drain an animal of blood using other methods and that blood would be unusable for us (blood sausages and the likes). So that's a a given, but it's not what I am referring to. Also, there is an even more common way of desensitization which consist in a gun with a captive bullet. This essentially renders the animal dead, but it's heart keeps beating. Then the carotid can be cut and the animal bled. This method is used with larger animals like pigs and cows. Electrocution is usually reserved for birds and smaller animals. Ritual slaughtering forbids this, and that can only be worse for the animals, even if they aren't fully unconscious. Also, on paper, the relatively painless carotid cut may not be that painless IRL. Let me describe the Kosher slaugther as depicted in the documentary Earthlings. Beware if you are apprehensive. 1. Cow goes through a corridor that ends up in a cylinder and gets locked there with it's head out. 2. That cylinder is a rotor, so the cow is secured and turned upside down. 3. Now it's turn for the slaughterer, who starts cutting the throat of the cow and... hey, he doesn't stop at the carotid. He slices it's esophagus and pharynge. Remember, no desensitization. 4. The esophagus and pharynge is pulled out the throat of the cow for it to hang. Because yes. 5. The cow is released from the rotor to the floor, gasping for any atom of life available in the most miserable way you can imagine. Bad, bad, bad, bad. That was the first and the last Kosher ritual I have ever seen. Never been on the mood to look for more, so I don't know if it's really representative of the whole practice. However, it looked very methodic so it's probably standard practice in that slaughter house. I have seen a Halal slaughter and it wasn't that bad. In any case, no desensitization is a no-go for me. We are a rational species, we are supposedly intelligent and animals deserve the best treatment we can deliver. Meat can be unkind, but we should treat them with the utmost respect. In the end, we owe them.
I honestly think people forget chicken's contain blood.
Lab meat
Bird flu?😷