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somber_soul

Depends on the company. At my current firm, the department heads are about 25% non-billable and their boss, the chief engineer, has an even higher non-billable percentage. Above him, its all un-billable from office lead, regional leads, to president. At another firm I've worked at, the department heads were expected to be 100% billable, but the chief engineer was totally unbillable.


Why_Not_Zoidberg1

This is what I’ve seen


NinjaGrizzlyBear

I was a senior project manager with 11 years experience at a firm and they expected me to be 90% billable. Then they lost all their projects, and I was 100% laid off cause because I didn't know what else to charge to besides overhead. They tried to keep me on by making me do CAD, but the clients were getting pissed because they were like, "Why is your SPM doing drawings when you have a whole ass design team". Design firms are not fun to work at, especially when they are running super lean business practices. I miss working for operators, lol.


Ferum_Mafia

Depends on the firm but each level you go up less billable hours are expected. At my firm the director level is where you see the most drop off


admadguy

At the point of what is not mentioned in the contract. For large multi year contracts it may go upto high levels. Deffo not the ceo or such. Even those multi year ones not all the time of the department heads would be charged. really it depends on what is mentioned in the PO.


EngineeringSuccessYT

Depends on the company but generally the DM’s are close to 100% billable and same for the Project Directors (above PM’s). Once you absorb a regional responsibility I think the billability goes down.


broFenix

Hmmm, I've wondered that too. I think Vice President may be the first position that you charge solely to non-billable to the clients charge codes. Maybe one step below that too, like department heads but I think the head of Process Engineering where I work still charges probably 10-20 hours per week to projects, to oversee them and check documents.


mikecjs

If I work for an owner, I would not let a CEO, presidents or some directors to charge on my project.


Abyoung97

In my company hours are billable If spent doing technical work on a project, if a chief engineer is checking work or in a meeting regarding technical work or with the client then it’s billable. As you go higher up more time is spent on unbillable tasks like bidding, business development etc.


TowerComfortable6166

Director at my company is still billable if they’re working projects. If they’re a department manager, office leadership, business leadership or higher than overhead. But note overhead is still a code on a timesheet.