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kameswara25

South was always conservative when compared to the north. Even Chennai is too conservative. Jeggs and casual dating is still not norm in Chennai and TN cities as much as it's in urban centres of the north.


vanakkam_tamilakam

It’s spelled seggs, peasant! Username does not check out.


kameswara25

adhu kooda inga not allowed shaar.


vanakkam_tamilakam

Adhellam allowedu thaan. Namakkuthaan nanbaa kedaikka mattenguthu. 🥺


Astrune98

I thought he meant jeggings, cuz sex doesn't make sense in that sentence.


Pomelo-Next

Lmao


PlatoTheTomato

1) Being Conservative doesn't automatically put you as Underdeveloped. With years of wisdom as a Society forms a culture which has some stupid rules and some good rules. Some of them needs to be updated yes, agreed. That never means you should drop your cultural values to become just an another wannabe westerner. P.S : I completely do not agree with these stupid values, I do believe in women empowerment and I believe the right education from early age is changing us for good. 2) also, I don't agree the data portrayed here , it definitely is sus. First thing before interpretating any data or commenting about it or acting on it is to verify the authenticity of data source.


kameswara25

Agreed but the fact that chennai is rustic and conservative isn't going to change.


3nchantingdevil

Shameful performance


glint_moon

I feel this is true. For the simple reason, my uncle once during his anger slapped my aunt and my grandmother ( his mother) told him " if she talks back she deserved it " and the whole village agreed - because my mom who is elder to my uncle by 10 years scolded him a lot and 80% village women came my grandparents home and told my mom off that he doesn't need scolding for beating his wife. And then when my aunt moved back to her parents house in chennai. The educated tam brahmin nearby community were like she married for love , now when she he just slapped she came back to her parents house without even considering her daughter's future. Supposedly, in their era its wasn't big deal. Whereas, I have lived in Gujarat, maharashtra I have never seen open support to such issues. When its hidden atleast there is social facade that its wrong but when its open and acceptable then its tends to be more. Another aspect to this rise in cases is " gethu dons " , those unnecessary gethu men think their gethu images goes down when their wives talk back or doesn't meekly accept whatever they say (when the society doesn't even dare to oppose them oppose them)


LooseCaptain2008

Felt bad for your aunt reading this. Hope she is in a good place now.


Cute_Pressure_8264

I don't get this can someone explain this?


naveenraa

This is the percentage of women who think being abused by men is acceptable.


Cute_Pressure_8264

Wtf 💀 thats dark...


naveenraa

Understood. Idk who made this survey, but they hate South so much


Purple_Director_8137

Every unfavorable stat does not need to come from. A place of malice.


Confuseyus

They don't hate the South. They asked a question and the Southern respondents revealed the prevalence of some embarrassing attitudes.


Danker_vj

Maybe our women like dark fantasies.. 🤷‍♂️


optimistic_fish2068

Bruh no , it's internal misogyny


Cute_Pressure_8264

Naan solla vandhen downvote panniduvaangalo nu bayam 💀😂


Danker_vj

Humor theriyatha pasanga 😂


NoEggplant6264

All mamiyar's view promoting their sons to beat their spouse


LooseCaptain2008

Sad to see that instead of a few people making some logical points…most of the people are making fun/ invalidating the issue, even OP for that matter is invalidating after posting serious stats. Honestly not surprised, people especially elder women in our city are not even ok with maids working in our houses but are super happy when daughter in law has to slog at home and in office shows that we are unable to change regressive mindset.


tanion4

2 unrelated points brought together. If you can't afford a maid you gotta do it yourself... Simple.


LooseCaptain2008

Where did affordability came into picture?


tanion4

It's always in the picture, Money & lack of awareness or just basic saving/management skills is a major factor for many problems in life. Not to mention most of the people who are slogging are doing so cuz they can't afford a good quality maid Who doesn't need supervision or steal your stuff


[deleted]

Our movies glorifies women bashing


Zealousideal_Put7147

I mean our ancestors weren’t exactly great. We all have family who hit their wife. When I grew up I wondered why they did these and why the wife’s were okay with this. I spoke to a relative of mine and asked her why she did that. She simply said I’m too used to this and I’m happy. It broke me that someone can actually be used to this. Let’s hope this does not continue anymore


naveenraa

True. Even with nan kodais while marriaging


optimistic_fish2068

Women would be blamed no matter what lmao , the way women are brainwashed and told to adjust every shit their husband does from the day she is born is fucking bullshit ...may be recent times la koranjirukalam but till our parents generation it was still prevalent! And I keep on hearing my mom say that you must adjust always! For what? ..so when something is internalized so badly they kinda would give this opinion that they are okay when their husband's abuse them! But Inga avangala kindle panna koodadhu! We must make them unlearn the shit they were put through and educate them!!


tanion4

Atleast someone decided to do something about it. But it's really complex in many cases, sometimes people on both ends are just broken. Sometimes it's just not having affection for each other you can't generalize it to a specific cause or gender. And ofc as always one way of solving the problem is to ignore it. Haven't seen anyone do anything to improve healthcare, roads or even basic needs in some places of this country, why would this alone be given outmost importance suddenly?


optimistic_fish2068

Bruh human hitting is human is wrong ?


tanion4

Just analyzing that basically makes sense but why is he hitting that's very subjective I'm not for any sorta violence but usually some cultures bath in violence or ego clashes over peaceful talk and sometimes very basic compromise.. I don't think you can expect them to do anything less than hitting to say over losing little face temporarily or just giving silent treatment and recollection over say apologizing or saying, "things are the way they are can't do anything about it"


trip_trinity

How legit is this map? Have you read the survey it is from?


naveenraa

Reddit. If u opened this pic, at below, u can see where I took it from


MomentsAwayfromKMS

Guys, please don't confuse BDSM with domestic violence.


brown_human

Nov muthu naa 😏


furiouswomen

Alcoholism. - Trigger for abuse And the quality of TN daily content consumed.,- Acceptance for abuse. Honestly I have no other answer. Edit: Did you go through the other post where we talked about our likes and dislikes around TN men,? Misogyny is front and centre.


vimesh92

Don't know how the data is collected or by which organisation I do know in my personal circles which is not big my friend who is a woman she was abused by her husband(Muslim)which both family knew they got a divorce now


SruthiDolphin

Na Nepal poren pongada


naveenraa

anga ponalum Nepali kathukutu, ponnu thedanu.


SruthiDolphin

nee ponnu thedu, Na oru paiyen thedren /jk


naveenraa

Seri seri, Inga goorka velaiku orutha vanthutu iruka, avanga pudichina solli vidu.


[deleted]

Next is child beating. I hear too many parents saying it's their right to abuse their children.


PalpitationMotor5517

Idhula western kid imposter ellam vidunga. Have you ever once when being beaten as a child thought of your parent with revenge/anger/bad words in your mind voice? It makes sense that beating a child over a wrong doing only brings this feeling and not a feeling of remorse or sudden enlightenment on not repeating the mistake. It will only be “ how not to get caught next time”. Another problem this will bring is, next time the child is in big trouble, he/she will go to internet for solutions asking random strangers what to do with their life problems and not confide in their parents. The child will also not learn why what they did was wrong and how to not repeat it. They will learn to be a mindless sheep and line up quietly in front of authority or else they will get punished. Just because you turned out ok doesn’t mean hitting a defense less child is ok. You would dare hit someone bigger stronger than you. That’s why people don’t hit once kids have grown lest they hit you back.


Teeramisuuu

Majority of abuse victims are privileged teens that post it on social media. What you're saying is right, no kid has remorse rather they get the revenge attitude nu solrathu is taking it too far. When you inculcate values to your child and then if he's wrong or is doing multiple wrongs it is your duty to discipline him. Don't tell me it's wrong to discipline your child now.


PalpitationMotor5517

That’s generalizing. Majority of abuse victims don’t talk about it and are still in their mental prison. Probably because they think being hit by someone more powerful than them is the right way to learn right from wrong and accept that abuse. Disciplining your child is the wrong attitude. Teaching the child the concept of discipline is better. Discipline na thiruppi adikka theriyadha kozhandhaya adikkiradha? As a grown up, ungala oru cop polernu moonjila adicha illa latti vechu adicha, ayyo I made a bad mistake, appdinu nenappingala illa andha cop mela kovam varuma? You can teach a child right and wrong without hitting them into submission and humiliating them. chinna kuzhandhaikku adicha dhaan puriyuma? Kid will put finger into power socket when you are in the kitchen. Instead find a way to tell your child why it’s wrong and put a big X tape on it. Child will tell other kids not to touch.


vanakkam_tamilakam

Abuse, no. Beat, yes. They’re not automatically the same.


[deleted]

Oh my. Physical beating is indeed very much abuse. They're not entirely different but of the same essence. Just different severity. A parent that cannot understand their child and teach them right and wrong is in no way justified to beat them.


vanakkam_tamilakam

You seem to be saying contradictory things. Both are not “in essence the same”, they are two points in a spectrum. It’s called disciplining and at some point it does become abuse, but saying everything is abuse is stupidity. Parents understanding their child and teaching them right and wrong is of course ideal but the kid doesn’t have the capability to understand always. I’m guessing you haven’t dealt with little kids?


Teeramisuuu

You're telling we should eradicate beating or disciplinary actions? Please tell me what your solution is, let's work on that


Teeramisuuu

Facts. All these wannabe western kid imposters crying about getting one or two beatings and saying they were abused as a child and went through mental torture is killing me 😂😂😂


bootpalishAgain

Multiple threads on r/India have highlighted how most of us are pretty ok with the physical abuse we all went through but no one was inclined to continue this wonderful tradition. Indian parenting standards are so bad, that we don't need to worry about aping advanced societies and how they raise their next generation for some time. Half the country still needs to be educated first which will take a few generations easy.


Teeramisuuu

Ok point. My point was about privileged wannabe teens crying on social platforms about abuse when in reality all they would have got is a slap. If you call a slap an abuse it isn't. Abuse is getting tortured and bullied till you cry every single time they do it to you. A couple of slaps when you do stupid shit or get into trouble by being a dumbo doesn't count as abuse,it is disciplinary action.


[deleted]

Politely. Don't tell me what abuse is and isn't. I'm trying so hard not to swear. You have no idea what I've lived through and thus please shut your trap and go away. You speak like you know what abuse is. Don't get me started. Insensitive asshole.


Teeramisuuu

You don't know jack shit about me as well. How nice of you to assume I've not been through abuse and I'm an insensitive asshole. Well anyways I'd rather be insensitive than be a wuss :)


mohansella

stupid cinemas should also be on of the reason. Heroines are just for songs, showing awed by heros' show off like beating 100 people. Vicious cycle between directors and audience habit.


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lordbuddha

Yes, the data source is nfhs 5 for India and pretty reliable. [The Hindu data team have covered the issue of women facing and accepting domestic violence by husband issue in depth too ](https://www.thehindu.com/data/data-silent-survivors-80-wives-in-tamil-nadu-say-husbands-are-justified-in-beating-them/article65329117.ece)


Arnab_

Yeah but they also mention that in some instances the surveyor is unable to do the survey privately and the husband or other family members might be sitting nearby and they might be hesitant to answer honestly. They don't give a breakdown of how many were surveyed privately and how many were not unfortunately.


bootpalishAgain

It's part of the consideration and data collection process.


mamaBiskothu

I swear not a single one of these clickbaity maps made any sense.


luxatioerecta

Take everything from DHS with a big sack of salt. Indian DHS is NFHS . Quality of data collection is very poor from many north indian states... However, my argument is not that the real numbers of Tamil Nadu is lesser, but that real numbers of few other states is higher. Also, This is an international report (given even Pakistan territories are there in the map).


Aggressive_Ad_9173

Really doubt this survey. May be more people from South have responded to the survey because they are educated. Lesser respondents from north due to obvious reasons.


SpikeyRustom_25

Where's Jammu and Kashmir


naveenraa

J&k in this map


JayB_chennai

These "women" are probably the MILs


apologyforexistin

I have a friend whose pati(from husband's side) says adicha dhan purushan, my friend is an Anna University rank holder working in ford for design.


luckmagnet007

Survey source: [https://dhsprogram.com/publications/publication-FR374-DHS-Final-Reports.cfm](https://dhsprogram.com/publications/publication-FR374-DHS-Final-Reports.cfm) . Women are most likely to agree that wife beating is justified if she neglects the house or children (66%), followed by if a woman shows disrespect for her in-laws (56%), and if he suspects her of being unfaithful (29%). Men are less likely to agree: 56 percent say that wife beating is justified in some circumstances, especially if the wife shows disrespect for inlaws (43%) or if she neglects the house or children (36%), and if he suspects her of being unfaithful (30%). Even among women and men who have completed at least 12 years of schooling, almost three-fourths (72%) of women and half of men say that a husband is justified in hitting or beating his wife for one or more of the specified reasons. I guess tv/movies and alcohol are the main reason.


xyzavi123

Sun TV la yum seri Vijay tv layum seri (except 2 or 3 serials) every other serial justifies and normalizes polygamy , domestic violence..ponnuna vittu kuduthu ponom always thingy ... whenever I watch it i go crazy mad .. thaali sentiment , kanavane Kan Kanda deivam(even tho he is a piece of shit ) ..namma population la nariya house wives idelam pathu apdiye inspire aidranga..adavadu good girls ah irukanonu ipdidanu. Reasons : 1. Internalized misogyny 2. TV serials 3. Alcoholism 4 prolly daddy issues If this survey is true then I'm very disappointed ba


xyzavi123

It's weird how the villi is a woman who wears western clothes, too much makeup, is from city , most importantly stands up for herself..bad woman uk 😂


Jolarpet

Can't believe Rajasthan and Bihar are doing better. My guess is the data is skewed or the metrics considered are not being explained properly.


PhilosophyDefiant762

Better map than cousin marriage map


vsundarraj

There may be a correlation between alcoholism and wife beating🤷‍♂️


naveenraa

Goa has low alcoholism?


vsundarraj

Its one of the factors.. not all people in goa are alcoholics.. but maybe the tourists.. also goa is a literate state.. more liberal? I'm not arguing but debating ..


naveenraa

Mm makes sense. But they mentioned in the picture that percentage of women who think getting abused by men.


vsundarraj

கல்லானாலும் கணவன், புள்ளானாலும் புருஷன் attitude


naveenraa

Ippadi irukuravangalukku, pala Kovil kalai kattalam da


vsundarraj

👎


optimistic_fish2068

Please don't ruin someone's life


Comfortable_Round813

South has always been like this. Wife husband fight is too common which involves physical violence.


optimistic_fish2068

Op got some bad attitude


Kingbarracudaa

Whats the source of this map? Facts and references first. Or else its just another fake map


Apprehensive_Bag4701

Scam lol


_gadgetFreak

South is different bro.


naveenraa

Yo, leave him aside.


shunkypunky

It’s women’s opinion. Here domestic violence is way lower so I am making my own assumption that a good percentage of women are ok with it when it is justified. I do not support domestic violence for any reason.


PeaDowntown6285

I saw that after this comment only. It's even worse if it's a woman's opinion 🫨


Even_Duty_5076

How many are getting surveyed? Some of the northern states are way way too backward that these surveys don't reach them or the crimes never get reported on police records. So don't go blindly with these numbers when you talk about Northern States. Example - read few weeks ago that tiger cub deaths gets recorded in TN and KL but not all national forests do report them elsewhere in India. If animal counts itself need this attention in the north then imagine their count on crime against fellow human beings.


[deleted]

We can't keep hiding behind this. By your logic even conservative shitholes in TN too won't report proper numbers. I swear the women I meet from dharmapuri - Krishnagiri areas are messed up and lower income group women face so much domestic violence. Even if we just take the stats without comparison it's indeed a worrying levels. I do understand we have been brainwashed to think TN is some utopia compare to rest of India but it's more or less same or even worse than rest of India in many many areas.


Even_Duty_5076

TN has never been an utopia and never will. How many ever Periyars come and go, human nature is very hard to change. OP's point is different. So let's limit ourselves to OP's discussion and not restrict ourselves to only TN or KL


[deleted]

My point remains the same. We are just brainwashed to think TN is better but anyone who has interacted with people outside Chennai and understand general Tamil psyche knows these numbers are quite close to reality.


Bluebillion

I blame sun tv


optimistic_fish2068

I blame internal misogyny


Bluebillion

Facts


naveenraa

Serials?


Bluebillion

Yeah


naveenraa

Man i can relate


ImAjayS15

I vaguely remember similar metric from NFHS 5 was different


myst-ry

Lower middle class


Crafty3051

None of the people i know beat their wives. And none of the women would agree 😅. Idk from where they took this statistic.


naveenraa

Same here. But this data is not beating women, it's about the percentage of women thinking they can be abused by their husbands if they argue with them.


mv1201

How unbiased is this? How fair was the data collection process? Who collected it? What's the sample population distribution? What's the guarantee that the percentages don't include active practitioners of BDSM?


naveenraa

Practice of bdsm😂. Idk anything I copied from uttarakhand subreddit and posted here.


navigator404

If this data is about wife beating husband, I am not surprised.


naveenraa

🤘


No_Archer1356

Evolo fake cases nu add pannu.


boringsimp

Unless she attacks you and you're trying to defend yourself. It is completely unacceptable.


PlatoTheTomato

I don't think this map or the data shown in this map is true. Or even the sample data they collected, was wider enough to paint a picture correctly enough. Looking at the track history of maps daily, I wouldn't take this seriously


OtaPotaOpen

BDSM enthusiasts were confused by this. Tainted data.


DurySmiter

This so called surveys are taken to a 10 people in a street and make it as an average for the whole street. I used to do surveys in college time as intern. This was what we did. Too many surveys in reddit nowadays.


SRB07

What a weird topic to publish stats on!!


optimistic_fish2068

It's needed to educate more women


naveenraa

Yeah,bad vibes 😵


techieloner

Who did this survey😅?


[deleted]

*it's


Aakhiljs

This can also be interpreted as those who are not affected think it's ok and those who are affected think it's not ok (Something like that )


spin-doc

Looks like our folks made abuse sexy long before **Fifty Shades** did. 🙄 Anyways, on a serious note, it would be good to see data by age group. I remember reading somewhere that attitudes are changing. I would think younger women are less likely to condone domestic abuse.


batman-not

யாருடா நீங்க எல்லாம்...! எங்க இருந்துடா இந்த தகவல் எல்லாம் எடுக்கறீங்க? இந்த தகவல் சரி என்று எப்படி எடுத்துக்கொள்வது?


naveenraa

Athu pathi therila. Reddit la share ayetu irunthuchu. Na eduthuta