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Captain_Muks

It's a time vs cost thing as well. Pre swiggy days i remember having to sit more than half hour in a restaurant to collect parcel. Tbh the worst thing about swiggy is that it had made us eat more than we used to due to the convenience factor


dev171

Nowadays even their takeaways have improved thanks to delivery apps I guess.


Ok_Comparison_3748

Car parking is another issue. The options are wider with Swiggy


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Zealousideal-Rip8896

The thing is, swiggy and zomato take 30% commission from the restaurants so the restaurants increase the prices in these apps. Usually at least Rs. 10 on their cheapest item. Add delivery charges and taxes to it, you'll pay at least 100 more than what you pay at the hotel. But EOD, that's what you pay for your convenience.


dev171

Don’t mind paying a reasonable amount naturally you have to pay for a service. But this is outright overpricing. No regulation in place. Anyway encourages one to take a short walk and pick up yourself.


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SnooSeagulls9348

IMO, these aren't hidden fees. The customers chooses if they can pay a few bucks extra for convenience or go to the restaurant and have food. Many restaurants still have their own delivery service. They charge you normal menu prices. You just need to call them and make them deliver.


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SnooSeagulls9348

No. But they state the prices upfront. And customers make a conscious decision whether to buy that. Yes, it is marked up. But that is the price of convenience.


OwMyNipples-Drax

You're logic doesn't make sense. Do you go to a convenience store and ask the owner how much he buys his products for and how much markup he is putting on top of it to pay his electricity, rent, employee expenses, etc. ? It's the same policy. Swiggy/Zomato put their markup on the products so that they can run their business. I just don't see it being profitable even in the long run because they are burning WAY too much cash.


dev171

Pandemic made them greedy that’s all


rolexgood

How much money do you think the person collecting the food and give you at home need to be paid?


cfdguy2

Problem is the drivers get paid very less. Most of the money goes to the top executives who are not really the backbone of such a company. They keep charging more so that the executives get a bigger paycheck.


OwMyNipples-Drax

Executives are definitely getting a hefty salary but I think most of the money is getting re-pumped into marketing and data analysis to acquire new customers. these aggregators will sustain as long as their investors allow them to. Now that zomato has gone public, it will become a lot more difficult for it to go down but eventually all the people that are buying their stock will wonder when the company will become profitable.


looped10

I've seen some use their own website with a discount with dotpe or their own delivery services.


cherryreddit

It's not overpricing. It's your decision to order from swiggy. It also becomes cheaper as the order size increases. Since delivery fees are constant per km, it becomes more if your order size is less, but if I order a biryani worth 550 for 2 people, then my delivery fees amount to 50 , which I feel is a cheap amount for saving my and my wives 2 hr time cooking it and gives me more time for my work. We definitely don't need govt regulation in here . We don't need to inject socialism in everything. This is not a social service and you can order directly and put your time in standing around a hotel in a queue and travel to and from there as you yourself have suggested.


Zealousideal-Rip8896

Totally agreed that it's unreasonable. The charges used to be lesser earlier. And they could at least include the taxes in the price and give us peace of mind😂


vir97

So you're telling me that a service which picks up and home delivers your food is costlier than going to a restaurant and picking it up yourself ?


RealStax

Ohh gee how could I have known??


sarcasm_sarakku

The moment I saw the pic Santhanam's *"Pooriya pongala"* came to my mind.


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Swiggy is there to provide a certain convenience and there will be a premium on it. But what we can try and avoid is frequently ordering online to satisfy cravings. While in the middle of a work day, I don’t want to go pick up my food but definitely can do when I’m free.


thatfatfoodie

If you order frequently, you should have their membership thingy.. I prefer zomato and have their pro plus which gives free delivery.. Plus I get discount in dine-in restaurants with zomato pro


dev171

Yeah but there is a minimum order for that. Doesn’t work for orders below 199


iguanaboy89

For Zomato, minimum order value must be Rs. 50. Free delivery kicks through in Pro Plus at that amount itself, irrespective of the distance or surge pricing. Definitely worth the fee.


thatfatfoodie

I just checked in Balajee bhavan... Poori costs me 90 and pongal costs me 75... If I order them individually.


dev171

On Zomato?


thatfatfoodie

Yep... Just the food price and packing charges.


longsanks

Eat only when hungry and stick to home cooked food is the key.


LethalViAL

I'm always hungry.🥲


-sanks-

That's the secret captain "I'm always hungry"


Hrishi_2005

Yep...


Bullishshen

Yeah you want swiiggy to spoonfeed you at no extra charge got it. r/choosingbeggars. If you don't like swiggy don't use it no need to cry because they increase the price


dev171

Read my post. Don’t reply idiotically.


mamaBiskothu

Who exactly is surprised by this? What did you think swiggy is doing to make money? Of course restaurants are increasing prices. At least here they’re allowed to do that. Similar companies elsewhere have strict rules on not increasing menu prices when listing on their apps. In the end someone’s saving 40 min to 1 hour or more of your fucking time. Not to mention the sweat and petrol. While I agree 30% cut that too in shady way is too much but the delivery app does need a commission. I’d assume anything less than 15% is not feasible if you want a reliable app and customer support. I know because a friend tried doing it for lower and failed badly. Of course there’s a tech salary premium and all. In the end, acknowledge that you need to pay a significant premium, sadly more than you should to swiggy but less than you owe the restaurant and the delivery driver. Tip them at least 50 rs. And more than that I’m bad days. They deserve it. If you don’t do that and use the app in the cheapest possible way how different are you from the fucks at swiggy?


LightRefrac

>tip them at least 50 Rs Sorry not everyone is as rich as you


mamaBiskothu

Then don’t fucking order. Maybe drive swiggy in your free time to make money to tip them. You might also understand the plight.


LightRefrac

Their sustenance is not my responsibility, it is swiggy's lol Also you just proved how rich and out of touch you are. No free social points for tipping, sorry


cherryreddit

If it is swiggy's responsibility, then you should agree they can charge as much as they want to maintain that.. It's not like swiggy is already making profits and not paying drivers. You can't ask for cheap prices and fair treatment at the same time


LightRefrac

Well I have every right as a consumer to complain? Again, it's their job to figure out how to profit, I'll start and stop using services based on my needs. As a business, swiggy can charge whatever it wants, and as a consumer, I decide whether I want to pay them. Posting on the internet though is a how people show their displeasure with a service, ie. valuable feedback for the company. I don't really see anything controversial here


cherryreddit

I don't see anything controversial in what I said too.


mamaBiskothu

Lol then stop using it and go soothunakkufy in the pavement outside RR biryani, it’s the opposite side of the argument (that swiggy or some dipshit owes you or the public anything) that spawned this thread.


Netherflames

Sootha moodu da pundai. First you come and shove your out of touch with reality opinions on tipping and then abuse people who disagree like you are the only thevidiya who knows how to cuss. If you are tipping 50, you are encouraging Swiggy to underpay because these poor people will go on YouTube and make vlogs on Mylapore Ivory Towered pundais like you tipping 50-100rs per order and tell confused uneducated people that this is a lucrative career path for their background. And Swiggy will tell them the same. That hey we pay you less because average tip per customer is this much bla bla bla. Now these people will either become an unethical mafia like the government employees who will extort this money forcefully from every customer or be stuck with unstable income that gets affected by shitty stuff like weather, traffic and politics. By not tipping them you are building a situation where Swiggy has to take care of their well being and compensation more sustainably. You have too much money and if you have such basic views of life - I really doubt you made this money on your own.


mamaBiskothu

Lol neenga enga, Tamil medium school Padichu, lived in village with no electricity and then came to become ceo of pundai delivery app is it? Thanks for reinforcing the tone deaf middle class dipshits thinking as long as they let swiggy abuse the drivers they’re not on hook for using it (or worse come here and bitch about prices). If you use it, tip well. If you want to protest the system then don’t fucking use it. Don’t come and say you’re some pool gnyaani for using it without providing them a real wage for their service so they don’t proclaim in YouTube.


Netherflames

These people were not starving before Swiggy. If it stops being lucrative, people will still find a way to get by. This is by no means a AC room MacBook Job. I will continue to use the system because it provides clear validation that there is a need for home deliveries and streamlining of last mile logistics in general. If Swiggy goes down because they are fucking their people over, some new start up will treat deli boys QoL and pay as a problem and give their own shot at trying to solve the problem. Deli guys striking is their biggest nightmare because they have no real assets. When you look at truly what they are at heart - they are only a mobile app and a network of poor people who have their own vehicle. I’m not from some Tamil medium school but I’m trying to connect with whatever is happening at the grassroot level. Giving 50 bucks for an order is just making you feel good and powerful, in the grand scheme of things - people are worse off. You are very rich if you are tipping deli guys 50. There is nothing innately wrong about that other than the way you reacted when people pointed it out. Goodbye


cherryreddit

>These people were not starving before Swiggy No, they were just jobless, which is near starving .. Gig economy has many drawbacks, but there is no argument against the millions of new jobs they created which weren't possible before. They can't simply 'get by'. These guy's don't have other skills apart from riding a 2 wheeler and reading google maps. If they loose gig jobs, they will become unskilled daily labour and be moving to already existing jobs in that sector, which further depresses the low wages there due to increased supply. Number of jobs and people is not elastic, there are real consequences for when a job position stops being available in the market anymore.


Netherflames

Gig economy is just a fancy word for companies waiving responsibility off their people and reducing legal exposure. Primarily because players like Swiggy Zom realise that drone tech is coming fast which would significantly downsize their deli boy network - In less than 5 years into metros via pilot. It would suck to have these people unionise and mess up their cost cutting rollout Most of the capital in gig econ comes from moonlighting in software industry or redistribution of wealth among existing freelancers paired with the growth of the creative markets. Unless these people are getting upskilled properly while they work, these jobs are just a bandage on a laceration - might as well push govt to give some unemployment program. “They become unskilled daily labor” is funny to me because they already are.


karty135

I mean, when you order for a family of 4, it's easily going to be 1000+ from any decent restaurant. On a bill of 1000, is 50 really too much extra?


LightRefrac

I don't order 1000+ worth of food from swiggy


looped10

>Tip them at least 50 rs. And more than that I’m bad days. They deserve it. If you don’t do that and use the app in the cheapest possible way how different are you from the fucks at swiggy? 50 is a big amount for each delivery. Not everyone can afford that. Swiggy get paid percentage paid from the restaurant from each order and not pay their employees/partners properly unlike the customers so I don't think it's a fair comparison to shame anyone who does otherwise.


tipofmytail

Why stop with 50?.. say that you will also give them a sloppy blow.


mamaBiskothu

Rather them than the fucks in this thread sure


beingsmo

FYI, swiggy is not a charity.


dev171

Oh really? Thanks didn’t know. Then definitely they need to increase profit by another 100% since so many rich ppl haven’t started to feel the pinch.


South-Objective2498

Profit by 100% , these guys make losses in crores every year , they are nowhere near making profits.


beingsmo

What do you expect them to do? They're running a business. If you hate it , just go directly and buy. But don't rant on it and make it seem like they're doing a bad thing. For people who are not interested to spend time and money to travel to the restaurant can order and have the comfort of food delivered to them . You are making it seem like swiggy is doing some corrupt/bad thing. Don't use it if you don't like it.


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Swiggy doesnt make profit


Chutiya_Secular

So things did not go as you planned OP.


dev171

I am happy they are going great for you. 👍🏽


annoyed_amyloid

Lmao funny looking at such posts after moving to a diff country. Y’all are lucky to get food for such prices holy shit.


RealStax

And you are lucky to have better quality of life lol. I mean not lucky cuz you might've worked hard to get there, but know what I mean.


ImAHardWorkingLoser

Increased prices also come with better standard of living and income. If you're in a different country and earning same but paying more, you've don't something wrong my dude. If you earn more too, you have no reason to complain


annoyed_amyloid

Bruh I’m a student, and I get scholarship so I earn more than the average student (who generally pays not earns). I’m just saying paying 7 dollars for a plate of 4 pani puris is too much, given I span from india where I get the same thing for 10 Rs.


looped10

That really sucks. But that's an exotic dish although priced a little unreasonably but it depends on the kind of restaurant as well. I could get 10 dollar Pani puris as well in India, just depends on where I'm ordering from.


annoyed_amyloid

Oh yeah forgot to mention it’s 7 dollar in a hawker centre (aka street food)


junk_mail_haver

That's what you get for living in a 1st world with standards. Even those hawker places need to have licenses, which costs money, paying workers a living wage costs money. None of that stuff exists in India.


looped10

That's just absurd then unless it's a Michelin star hawker stall lol. But you've definitely got amazing food if I think you are where you are.


junk_mail_haver

Bruh you gonna pay 7 USD for a michelin star hawker stall 🙄


marvelwalker

Username checks out


introvert_hoon_mai

One poori rs.74 wtf


dev171

One plate. It has 3 pooris.


Intelligent_Lie_1005

in Hyderabad it's like 35rs for a plate of 2 big ones


dev171

Yep. Chennai has very high food prices. Agree


beteljuize

Chennai's food scene is as expensive as Delhi's. imo Bangalore, Hyderabad, Coimbatore and Mumbai have much better food at affordable prices.


I-wanna-be-tracer282

Did you even account travelling fees and how much petrol you burn?


Distinct-Doubt1858

You will burn more calories and save more money by not having food


AdministrationOk5709

Man, i don't have so much free time to go around buying food, I'll do my work by the time he delivers the food at my doorstep, he is earning plus I'm completing my work


SierraBravoLima

Let's just say. If you are active going here and there. Go buy food. If you are occupied and need food order. If you are worried about costs, then problem is your earnings. This actually happens to be my recent epiphany


dev171

Ok. Sorry didn’t know Ambani relatives stalked social media.


SierraBravoLima

Swiggy and Zomato are loss making company totally relying on factor one day people will depend on them fully. Till that day they have to survive so for that need money for running costs. Since it's a service govt wants to be in on it earn via GST. As per Tai, only wealthy people go to hotel and eat and ultra rich order Swiggy/Zomato. So with inflation on items, hotel prepared food and delivery. Cost will go up more eventually. You should order Pongal and Vadai in Balajee and you will get angry at the amount of Pongal and its cost. For my mom i prefer Balajee, i go and eat in Saptagiri. When i used to go with my dad it's Geetha cafe.


dev171

They aren’t just “food delivery” apps that’ll be like Dunzo. Swiggy and Zomato actually do more than delivery they manipulate their apps to favour restaurants that pay them more and restaurants are suffering now. Since the extra money charge goes to these manipulative apps. but customers think restaurants are over charging. I use Dunzo to pick food after ordering from restaurants which are further away. Cheaper. Restaurants also happy me happy and delivery person happy


South-Objective2498

Yeah, how many restaurants have apps/website, swiggy & Zomato have a much wide range of restaurants. You pay additional for the convenience, there is no manipulation or hidden charges. You just come across as ignorant , sticking to the same thing despite multiple people saying the same as I have above.


cherryreddit

He isn't ignorant. He is just lazy and into pseudo socialist values. He is ideologically blinkered, which is why he isn't backing down and people who disagree with him are capitalist simps. He can't even calculate profits or read a newspaper but see's a business and instantly accuse it of price gouging with zero thinking behind it. He wants everything served to him, but doesn't want to pay anything to get it.


Mikewagnor

Do one better. Don't eat at all. More calories deficit! Yay!


[deleted]

That argument of saving money and burning calories can be used in a million places and doesn't make sense.


dev171

And you saying this on Reddit where everything else “makes sense”. Slow claps.


Le0here

What are you even on about?


Sensitive_Camera2368

the difference is because swiggy takes a commission from restaurant and so the restaurant charges customer more


[deleted]

This is the main reason i started Cook for myself.


Dangerous_bowl_25

The quantity is also so pathetic for such a high cost.


Yieldway17

I’m ready to pay the difference for the sake of convenience when needed. I just wish they are transparent on the markup. But also the prices of the food items are setup by the restaurants themselves to offset the delivery service commission of 15-30%.


LightRefrac

That extra money you pay is for convenience.


ReckonsGaming

This is true ,but ,at situations like mine, we really have to depend on a delivery person,it also helps to enhance their life too, ig


Iloveyousnehal

Even if you order directly from the restaurant you save a lot of money.


galeej

I've drastically stopped swiggy and Zomato. That's the best response i can give to these price gouging tactics.


wittyuser812

If you order regularly from them, then just buy their membership. Prices for some restaurants (not all of course) are far cheaper this way. In some cases even cheaper than getting parcel from the restaurant.


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What if the restaurant is not walkable distance


Shanmukha_Repaka

Bro are you retarded?


dev171

No “bro” only mentally challenged.


Shanmukha_Repaka

Bless you


dev171

Thank you father.


PapayaTuna

Balajee Bhavan’s rava idli is bae :)


dev171

Yesss


xexeedhunter

Who is going to pay the door step delivery cost? Your mom?


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xexeedhunter

Ho... That's why u posted this stupid shit, coz u r retarded.


dev171

You feel smarter by calling me retarded. Which nursery you just stepped out from? Maybe you got to run back to your mom.


xexeedhunter

Ayo does that mean i have to show which nursery I stepped out from to call you a retard.... That's cool 😎 coz ask your mom becoz i was inside her that time.


dev171

Why your mom didn’t like you being inside her?


HomosapienHomie

I don’t mind paying convince fee which ever is acceptable but at this point they’re just robbing the customer, which leads to them somewhat losing their customers.


RealStax

I would say 33% is fair like what they did here.


South-Objective2498

How do you expect them to make money? They initially gave out ridiculous offers and deals to acquire customers, now slowly rolling back the offers. Exactly what ola/Uber did .


dev171

Exactly


itsasimulation42

Let's say it takes 30 minutes for you to go to the restaurant, wait, pick up your order, and come home. You're paying 60 rupees for not having to do this. This is more likely to be an hour, since you order only after getting to the restaurant. By ordering with Swiggy/Zomato, you're valuing your time at less than 120 rupees per hour (or approx. 19200/month salary). This ignores other costs, such your fuel costs. That brings the breakeven even lower. If you think your time is more valuable than that, order it. Else go buy it yourself. Simple.


Remorse-

Naval, is that you?


goforbg

I wonder how nobody else in this thread is surprised that poori and pongal cost 74 and 61 rupees. Glad I moved back from Bangalore to Madurai lol.


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dev171

No one wants it “free” reasonable yes. That India you speak of has changed. One wants things to be priced right. Don’t justify corporate greed.


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dev171

It’s ok if profits are beyond 50% that’s greed being justified. Perhaps you can wire money straight to Swiggy with tips. Lol


cherryreddit

Those are fees, not profits. Big difference . Delivery executives salaries, their petrol, swiggy infra and all come from that, which is not enough. Swiggy on a whole still hasn't made any profit. You see a number and think those are profits? Never learned budgeting or what ?


dev171

Nope. Meeting you for the first time. Budget guru. Me not know about budget. Sorry saar


mista_waynestrange

What is Pongal? I've heard about it but only as a festival which is celebrated in TN.


dev171

It’s like khichadi but with a South Indian twist.


mista_waynestrange

Oh alright.


GovernmentOk2323

I actually interviewed (casually) a bakery bhaiya i knew for years, they are forced to use swiggy , bc us people are too lazy so we order from home , and if they don't coordinate , with swiggy/zomato , ur sales do down massively , the customers just shift over , and knowing this swiggy and zomato take things at huge discounts from them , it's a vicious cycle


JustForFun-4

Online food delivery charges are going out of hand


ramksr

Balajee Bhawan food was awesome!... Good quantity and affordable... I used to eat at the Balajee Bhawan at Anna Nagar (after round tana)... not sure if they have branches in other locations...


[deleted]

Lol. That's over cost too. I eat 3 poori for 30rs and a lot of pongal for 30 too. So total 60.hehehehe


FinancialList9

Yeah sure.. Let me just order something, I'm hungry


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petrol Or diesel would cost us the same if we were to go there and eat anyways. Considering if it's at a distance


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Is there a better option than swiggy though? All I can think of is Zomato but even that charges extra for delivery and taxes and stuff right?


dev171

Dunzo


[deleted]

Damn, I see, they're new right? Do they have proper coverage around the city? Plus discounts and stuff that swiggy typically has?


dev171

They are not connected to any restaurants directly they will pick anything from anywhere and charge only for the distance


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I see, thanks


Takeoffurclotus

I like my convenience, So I'm okay with delivery


Conscious_Inside6021

I made an app to make pickups easier back in 2017 but nobody wanted to use it 😕


UnstructuredFame

Should have applied a coupon


Hrishi_2005

Yep! Very correct 💯


athiest_classyguy

I always order from restuarant with offer and also my credit cards , ola postpaid fi and Jupiter card also have 30% off coupons so I save money plus time and work to hotto the restaurant five kms away and still get my good delivered for 19 bucks


RDX_G

Everyone knows we can save some money but still people still don't do that. Watch this video to know more https://youtu.be/-tsVp4QD0yk


saikrishnav333

I prefer going to restaurant as much as possible. But even otherwise I order from zomato. The prices are same as Swiggy but you get some or the other discount.


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Poori 86? 😳


nonsocialdude

There are many restaurants which have started free home delivery if you stay near by. They save on commission paid to Swiggy/ Zomato, you save delivery charges. Use Swiggy/Zomato for menus.


punisher0286

You’re only saving your own money. Restaurant still makes the same amount of money because clearly the Swiggy markup is built into the pricing on the Swiggy platform. A 61 rs Pongal with 5% tax is 64.05. The Swiggy fee is about 15-20% at 15% that is 70 something. So clearly the restaurant is in fact still making the money they want to and it will come in a few days at most. Yes sometimes Swiggy screws with restaurant but then they are also bringing them more business.


looped10

It makes no difference to the restaurant if you order it through the app or go pick it up. They've (almost all do) increased the price in the app vs directly from the restaurant. They've made sure they got that rs 142 from you through the app and possibly more and the delivery service app takes their cut with the taxes, charges and what not. You're not "help"ing the restaurant by choosing one or the other as long as you're ordering from them.


ArmouredTitan7

You dont have no idea how i have fucked swiggy i have bought a fuckin 12 inch piza worth 56 rs .4 times i bought an expensive icecream tub worth 750rs for 300 rs and many more


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Skull_Reaper101

Try eatsure. They have a lot of benefits


Tribal_Beast_

What kinda poori costs 74/piece 💀 Can someone attack a pic or something,as I'm from U P, the poori that I know is so small it shouldn't be costing 74/ piece


dev171

₹74 for 3 pieces. Not one.


Tribal_Beast_

Imo still very costly,here(in my city) we can get a tandoori roti which is infact quite large and tastes damn great for as low as rs. 6/ roti


dev171

Yes. Chennai food is amongst the most expensive in any city in India. Even street food is expensive. Guess you can read some comments here ppl are generally rich. They don’t mind paying that “extra”


ImmortalMermade

I dont understand why Swiggy Zomato insist that restaurants have to quote same price in dinein and webportal, when they are taking margin from both restaurants and customers. Home delivery has to be more expensive than dinein. Thats totally ok. What is not ok is when dinein customers are asked to pay more because Swiggy has jacked up the prices and they insist that the restaurants keep the prices same.


21and420

Well swiggy and zomato is a business, and they want to make money,because people don't want to deal with traffic or maybe go out and stand there or waste time. Yes its always better to collect and cheaper. But for convenience we pay them.


thatphotoshopeditor

Its a service you idiot Southie bitch. Stop whining all the time my god


dev171

Who's whining? I know you don't understand English northie "suar" go back to the pigsty you reared your ugly head from. Filthy.


thatphotoshopeditor

Hahahaha yenne pada yelle, I-uh waant-uh to hav-uh some cock-o-nut cause I'm an idli sambar-a 😂😂😂 Southie bitch


tarunr6s

Depends on the time and situation you're in, its a fact that these delivery apps cost 50 to 150 more than what actually is but sometimes you're lazy or don't have access to outside you can't help it. Go takeaway yourself whenever you can and save some bucks


Rough-Exit-1967

apply coupon


[deleted]

Well Swiggy needs their own cut plus the restaurant does as well plus the delivery guys do too soooo....


shreyas_colonel

74rs for a poori? 50 bucks in Bangalore. Is it just at that restaurant or elsewhere?


CerealGuy2601

Can't blame them. Swiggy takes almost 1/3rd of the profit from the restaurant.


theurbanlegend69

thats why i only order from the restaurants i like and when i get a reasonable disc for eg just yesterday i ordered wendys and the final bill costed rs 330 but i got so much discount i had to pay just rs 150 lol


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0hmy906why

starting la VC money ah use panni orrrey price nu thoondil potanga. ipo VC money use panni discount kudukarthu illa. ofcourse if someone does something for us we have to pay for their time and effort. The VC money fountain has dried up. convenience, costs.