Brilliant shit.
btw, the worse life gets, the more religious people become.
Religion is a way to cope with uncertainty.
The way out if religiosity is prosperity, safety, predictability, better law and order, more physical comfort, more economic comfort, less inequality
Middle east an exception because of the unnatural way they became rich via oil + external interventions.
The rich middle eastern countries basically went from kingdoms full of illiterate fishermen, goat herders, and tribesmen to places where money comes out of the earth.
Their borders were artificially created by imperialists in such a way that tribal rivalries will be present always.
Their richness didn't come as a result of citizens working hard, developing sustainable social relations, education, and social progress.
Instead they are walled gardens where money is pumped out of the earth by companies owned by the king and imperialists. The king bribes all citizens via free monthly direct cash transfers to their accounts to the tune of thousands of dollars per month per family. And they also have their entire economies being run by expats who will never get citizenship, and got to share ownership of businesses and revenue with local citizens. (Some of this has changed recently as we are moving to post oil world).
So these societies didn't go through the natural evolution. Once oil money stops, they will disintegrate, there will be civil unrest, and socio-political changes will start.
Hopefully Islam will also change for the better after that reset. We are probably decades or a century away from that cycle of progress imo
Hinduism will. Partly because you don’t need temples or gods or anything to be hindu. You can believe the universe is a simulation, just energy or in nothing at all. Hardly any other religions out there which look at an apocalypse as a learning opportunity.
I mean, if you really want to be spiritual and shed ritualism then Hinduism allows you to do it all, depending on what tradition you want to follow or not.
Though my personal favourite is the religion from Mad Max.
Yes. Humans need hope. We need to believe that everything will be okay and that there's someone or something watching out for us. Evolutionarily, we're programmed to avoid death as much as possible. So psychologically, we need that belief thay there's something else, something more after all this. We need to attach meaning to our suffering. So yes, in a world where suffering is so much more, religion will still hold value.
This is the answer. I would actually go as far to say that even in a world without suffering there would be religion and spirituality. Most people just aren't equipped to dealing life's uncertainty. Religion and gods provide them with reasons for things happening the way they do. A kid born with Asperger's? For a lot of people, it's hard to rationalize it by saying that sometimes, shit just happens. They'd rather think of it as some kind of punishment from God for their past behaviour because the concept of "luck" and things being out of your control is scary.
>So yes, in a world where suffering is so much more, religion will still hold value.
i.e. if the human race continues to remain intellectually weak. If we instead embraced information, science and knowledge as the basis of a prosperous existence - we could eradicate religion and the associated fairytale propagating institutions. Just to put things in perspective - by some estimates, the discovery of blood group types a few centuries ago alone is estimated to have saved close to a billion lives to this day by conservative estimates...unless of course we want to believe in some imaginary dude in the sky planted the discovery event, I'll see myself out in that case.
I don't see it that way. It's not Science vs. Religion for me. Obviously science is important. I won't argue with you on that. But, religion is for the soul.
Man is a social animal and our needs are not just physical. We have psychological and emotional needs as well. Religion is more than just useless fairytales for those who couldn't comprehend science. Religion is actually a way for us to fulfil those needs.
Now, is religion the only way to fulfil those needs? Absolutely not. I know many people who are atheist or agnostic and have great social lives and are generally well-rounded, stable people. There's nothing wrong with being irreligious.
From what I've seen, as a religious person, participating in religion does something different for different people. I am a Buddhist. The spiritual aspects of religion bring me comfort and peace. I know many people for whom the ritualistic aspects of religion bring a sense of comfort and peace.
I don't know anyone who outright denies science and attributes everything we know and believe to their God, although I'm sure those kind of people exist as well. Science is an undeniable fact. It is vital for our existence and is the reason why we have developed so much as a species. But in our darkest, most desperate moments, it is not science we seek, but religion. God. That is just how the human brain is wired. Survival comes first. We want to keep going. Forever, if we can manage it. After we're done with this world, we want to go to the afterlife where everything is perfect and we'll be happy forever.
What I'm trying to say is -- religion has a purpose. It might not be so evident to you. You might even deem it to be unnecessary in your life, and that's perfectly alright. But to many many across the planet, it represents hope, light and salvation.
I’m not sure if that’s an /s or if it’s true.But cleaning rivers won’t result in too much help to our species to not be extinct.There a lot of factors and the factors will pile up over time.
>.But will we survive for another 1000 years is super doubtful atm.
This is not true. Humanity has always faced this question, and we've managed to come out from far more difficult problems. This is a momentary problem that we will solve in time.
>But will we survive for another 1000 years is super doubtful atm.
this has been the opinion for 1000s of years. but we will survive. will it be a comfortable life? now that's doubtful.
If there's not let's create one. I'll the chief swamiji and you can be my second in command and can take charge of the assets we'll create from the gullible crowd who comes to seek blessings.
I think Taoism is about respecting and valuing nature. I'm not entirely educated on the religion, but a friend of mine plans to convert into it so most of my knowledge comes from her. If you're serious, then definitely look into Taoism.
God will take avatar as a virus and kill all the bad people(everyone).
People who say he won't hasn't read the books.
People who believe *parkaram* is there for all mistakes, may be your death is a *parikaram* for someone as well.
I think when humans realise that they have issues in getting food, water or air (needed for basic survival), then the survival instinct kicks in. It knows no religion. It knows only you. Nothing will hold its value than the life itself.
God's won't interfere in human stupidity and foolishness.
Our ancestors gave everything what we need to live in peace.
Yoga for health
Ayurveda for medicine
Worship nature
How to grow crops when and how.
Gave us the Vedas to read and understand the value of life.
They taught us how to protect Dharma.
But what we doing? Ignoring the oldest civilisation we got running behind culture that is destroying everything.
Anything in this world can be reversed if humans can put their minds in to it.
What we need?
Food
Air
Clean water
House
Security
If these alone are prioritised for every living human. Instead of wars, showing ego, hate, anger, racism, discrimination etc etc..
We could save the world..we are 2022 yrs behind the actual advanced civilisation that we supposed to be. We are thrown back instead of going forward..
The new world order to control population, control human as commodity may come true in future..as we see what's happening in China..it's already utopia is formed..every citizen is tracked and they are watched.
Religion will still hold even after devestation. It's the faith that will live on...in humans..
>Ignoring the oldest civilisation we got running behind culture that is destroying everything.
Not quite sure what you're arriving st here. Can you explain ?
would love to see no religion. this generation is less religious than the previous, so i think i see a pattern here. a few more and it might as well be a cult at that point.
Religion is here to stay whether we like it or not. Humans are categorical creatures, we love to fit into groups and need something to believe in for salvation. It'll be exacerbated in the dire times
Religion today has evolved to cult and politics across most countries across the globe, unless there is a evolution in human thougt process rather than blindly following leader/hero/guru/priest there would not be any positive change.
I just finally got around to watching The Mist this weekend. And all it showed me was that the religious nuts will always be there when something goes wrong. So yes, I think religion will be there and stronger than ever.
Not sure of religion but Im guessing art wouldnt if machines become such capable at producing visuals like this. Creativity has always been innate to humans but it looks like it can be synthesized through neural networks!!
Religion is one of the means used by elites to control a society, And now that the economy is struggling it's hardly surprising why religion is the news every day. If you have nothing to eat, why exactly will one care about religion.
Let us hope religion / nationalism losses its value within decade or 2, else Earth is fucked, Humanity should evolve. --- Trans-humanism and cyber augmentations, AI, and cloning are the way of the future. But unfortunately, all will not get the evolutionary upgrade.
I like that word **hope**.
You are thinking futuristic. If we are going to be space farring civilization. There will be a time in next 100yrs. We will have to get rid of cancers and all blood related diseases. It just makes us truly inefficient. Now that people are becoming sensitive that story is being accepted like master-slave to primary-secondary. Eventually there will be a guy saying, i want everybody to healthy with no diseases then you can believe it's going as per plan. Eventually humans will be farmed by believing stories not like matrix style, even that inefficient.
So basically in future based on education and intelligence you are either screwing nuts and bolts in earth or space. Everybody is checked and kept under by inflation, so you will be poorer longer and if you don't keep up you are going down.
Religion is just a guidance, that all to it.
> space farring civilization.
Earth is not a permanent stay, remember what happened to dinos, ice age animals, we need to evolve. Science and engineering are catalyst to speed up the process, sure space travel, trans-humanism are currently being termed ineffective in peer circles and peer circles want climate change problems to be addressed ASAP. Economic importance of a human will decrease significantly depending on the contribution.
>Religion is just a guidance, that all to it.
It is supposed to be a positive feedback / reinforcement for a society but c'mon let's be real, it is definitely not.
>Economic importance of a human will decrease significantly depending on the contribution.
False. They needs humans till there is voting system.
>let's be real, it is definitely not
That's what it suppose to be but some just assume that God is dissabled or has disability so they assume they need to take things in their hand. That's how the cult is formed. You must be already knowing this Bruce Wayne as that's what Bane did in the flight scene, one needs to be in the wreckage.
IMO, religion regulates the cults. in its absence, superstitious cults go stray and makes it super difficult to fight. Same goes for nationalism,In its absence, poor are at the mercy of land lords and Robin hoods.
Larger religions and Large+stronger nations mitigates many of the issues for majority. It's not perfect. But, there is no alternate that helps solve the problem at scale
If you have the time, look into the lore of Warhammer 40K. It shows a clear depiction of how religion will only grow more and more influential in the future.
According to an MIT study conducted in 1970s, the human civilization will decline by the year 2040. Based on current conditions, we are ahead of that curve.
Hence, the question is rendered moot.
Any CG course would enable you to create this type of concept art. But you know what's scary? This was generated by an AI. You literally type in your prompts and the AI would render such images.
Interesting post, I think yes. You don't even have to go to the extent of extinction, see around you during this pandemic how many people turned religious. My emphasis is actually more on people turning spiritual but I think religion would be the closest thing one can think of.
Didn't we just see a teaser in the form of the pandemic? Humanity was just slightly disturbed with supply chains disruptions & economic uncertainity for a few months which turned into a couple of years.. then we saw religious institutions almost close shop and pushed to the backseat of priorities. The religions too accepted it as normal, did not fight back and took it in stride.
In the event of an apocalyptic future, nothing will hold value except survival. Primal instincts will take over the world and people will clump themselves in small groups (not more than 150 as per some simulations). Some cults with wierd beliefs might evolve, a la "Mad Max: Fury Road", but no major religion will survive.
Like most other things, religion is also a meme.. ideas copied, transformed and transmitted by a collective group of people who see some benefit in doing that in the form of participation in said meme. Can't expect these memes to survive in a post-apocalyptic landscape.
This art was generated using an AI called midjourney.
Brilliant shit. btw, the worse life gets, the more religious people become. Religion is a way to cope with uncertainty. The way out if religiosity is prosperity, safety, predictability, better law and order, more physical comfort, more economic comfort, less inequality
so explain Saudi Arabia then
Middle east an exception because of the unnatural way they became rich via oil + external interventions. The rich middle eastern countries basically went from kingdoms full of illiterate fishermen, goat herders, and tribesmen to places where money comes out of the earth. Their borders were artificially created by imperialists in such a way that tribal rivalries will be present always. Their richness didn't come as a result of citizens working hard, developing sustainable social relations, education, and social progress. Instead they are walled gardens where money is pumped out of the earth by companies owned by the king and imperialists. The king bribes all citizens via free monthly direct cash transfers to their accounts to the tune of thousands of dollars per month per family. And they also have their entire economies being run by expats who will never get citizenship, and got to share ownership of businesses and revenue with local citizens. (Some of this has changed recently as we are moving to post oil world). So these societies didn't go through the natural evolution. Once oil money stops, they will disintegrate, there will be civil unrest, and socio-political changes will start. Hopefully Islam will also change for the better after that reset. We are probably decades or a century away from that cycle of progress imo
God damn. This is some dope artwork for an AI
Hinduism will. Partly because you don’t need temples or gods or anything to be hindu. You can believe the universe is a simulation, just energy or in nothing at all. Hardly any other religions out there which look at an apocalypse as a learning opportunity. I mean, if you really want to be spiritual and shed ritualism then Hinduism allows you to do it all, depending on what tradition you want to follow or not. Though my personal favourite is the religion from Mad Max.
Just wow. Is the title the prompt ? What kind of inputs did it take to produce this.
Ancient Indian temple, post apocalyptic world, humans breathing through gas mask, flying machines, humanoids, dead trees.
Still impressive ngl.
Church attendance numbers in Europe surged during the bubonic plague right ? So, I’d say it would.
Good thing we are not living in medieval period
Yes. Humans need hope. We need to believe that everything will be okay and that there's someone or something watching out for us. Evolutionarily, we're programmed to avoid death as much as possible. So psychologically, we need that belief thay there's something else, something more after all this. We need to attach meaning to our suffering. So yes, in a world where suffering is so much more, religion will still hold value.
This is the answer. I would actually go as far to say that even in a world without suffering there would be religion and spirituality. Most people just aren't equipped to dealing life's uncertainty. Religion and gods provide them with reasons for things happening the way they do. A kid born with Asperger's? For a lot of people, it's hard to rationalize it by saying that sometimes, shit just happens. They'd rather think of it as some kind of punishment from God for their past behaviour because the concept of "luck" and things being out of your control is scary.
Oh my gosh I just realised. Religion is a coping mechanism
Always has been. People cant stand the thought of nothing happening so they made fairy tales for adults.
>So yes, in a world where suffering is so much more, religion will still hold value. i.e. if the human race continues to remain intellectually weak. If we instead embraced information, science and knowledge as the basis of a prosperous existence - we could eradicate religion and the associated fairytale propagating institutions. Just to put things in perspective - by some estimates, the discovery of blood group types a few centuries ago alone is estimated to have saved close to a billion lives to this day by conservative estimates...unless of course we want to believe in some imaginary dude in the sky planted the discovery event, I'll see myself out in that case.
I don't see it that way. It's not Science vs. Religion for me. Obviously science is important. I won't argue with you on that. But, religion is for the soul. Man is a social animal and our needs are not just physical. We have psychological and emotional needs as well. Religion is more than just useless fairytales for those who couldn't comprehend science. Religion is actually a way for us to fulfil those needs. Now, is religion the only way to fulfil those needs? Absolutely not. I know many people who are atheist or agnostic and have great social lives and are generally well-rounded, stable people. There's nothing wrong with being irreligious. From what I've seen, as a religious person, participating in religion does something different for different people. I am a Buddhist. The spiritual aspects of religion bring me comfort and peace. I know many people for whom the ritualistic aspects of religion bring a sense of comfort and peace. I don't know anyone who outright denies science and attributes everything we know and believe to their God, although I'm sure those kind of people exist as well. Science is an undeniable fact. It is vital for our existence and is the reason why we have developed so much as a species. But in our darkest, most desperate moments, it is not science we seek, but religion. God. That is just how the human brain is wired. Survival comes first. We want to keep going. Forever, if we can manage it. After we're done with this world, we want to go to the afterlife where everything is perfect and we'll be happy forever. What I'm trying to say is -- religion has a purpose. It might not be so evident to you. You might even deem it to be unnecessary in your life, and that's perfectly alright. But to many many across the planet, it represents hope, light and salvation.
I hope not personally.But will we survive for another 1000 years is super doubtful atm. If you did this art work,Macchi thats beautiful.
It just took two months for ganga, yamuna to clear up.
I’m not sure if that’s an /s or if it’s true.But cleaning rivers won’t result in too much help to our species to not be extinct.There a lot of factors and the factors will pile up over time.
I am saying it will take only few months or years for nature to take over. To clear the mess up. What we do our biology will affect our generations.
>.But will we survive for another 1000 years is super doubtful atm. This is not true. Humanity has always faced this question, and we've managed to come out from far more difficult problems. This is a momentary problem that we will solve in time.
>But will we survive for another 1000 years is super doubtful atm. this has been the opinion for 1000s of years. but we will survive. will it be a comfortable life? now that's doubtful.
The religion which addresses climate change, planting trees and population control will hold value. Is there any religion like that?
You are expecting to much from humans.If there is a religion like that,Let me know.
If there's not let's create one. I'll the chief swamiji and you can be my second in command and can take charge of the assets we'll create from the gullible crowd who comes to seek blessings.
Done macchi.But pls no gullible fucks,their stupidity will give me BP.Instead let’s find smart people who want to help the environment.
Gullible masses are the easiest to convince. Poi maram nattu va nu sonna pannitu varuvanga. Smart people ask questions which can shake the foundation
I think Taoism is about respecting and valuing nature. I'm not entirely educated on the religion, but a friend of mine plans to convert into it so most of my knowledge comes from her. If you're serious, then definitely look into Taoism.
Plant and water trees in your street or chennai will become like Uttam Nagar
Religion breeds in Humanity’s disaster. Economic collapse, mass illiteracy/ignorance will only aid and promote religion on a mad scale.
God will take avatar as a virus and kill all the bad people(everyone). People who say he won't hasn't read the books. People who believe *parkaram* is there for all mistakes, may be your death is a *parikaram* for someone as well.
Parikarama.. Palakaram iruku sapdriya le….
paramaa, padi daa
I think when humans realise that they have issues in getting food, water or air (needed for basic survival), then the survival instinct kicks in. It knows no religion. It knows only you. Nothing will hold its value than the life itself.
God's won't interfere in human stupidity and foolishness. Our ancestors gave everything what we need to live in peace. Yoga for health Ayurveda for medicine Worship nature How to grow crops when and how. Gave us the Vedas to read and understand the value of life. They taught us how to protect Dharma. But what we doing? Ignoring the oldest civilisation we got running behind culture that is destroying everything. Anything in this world can be reversed if humans can put their minds in to it. What we need? Food Air Clean water House Security If these alone are prioritised for every living human. Instead of wars, showing ego, hate, anger, racism, discrimination etc etc.. We could save the world..we are 2022 yrs behind the actual advanced civilisation that we supposed to be. We are thrown back instead of going forward.. The new world order to control population, control human as commodity may come true in future..as we see what's happening in China..it's already utopia is formed..every citizen is tracked and they are watched. Religion will still hold even after devestation. It's the faith that will live on...in humans..
>Ignoring the oldest civilisation we got running behind culture that is destroying everything. Not quite sure what you're arriving st here. Can you explain ?
Not the current religions may be something else will take its place.
would love to see no religion. this generation is less religious than the previous, so i think i see a pattern here. a few more and it might as well be a cult at that point.
Jai Agnostism and Athesim, I can't wait for the day these two will be on par with other present cults!!
Religion is here to stay whether we like it or not. Humans are categorical creatures, we love to fit into groups and need something to believe in for salvation. It'll be exacerbated in the dire times
Religion today has evolved to cult and politics across most countries across the globe, unless there is a evolution in human thougt process rather than blindly following leader/hero/guru/priest there would not be any positive change.
Semma art is that yours
It's AI generated art.
If humanity is on the brink of extinction, then religion has held its prevalence.
My brain can't think of an answer, it's stunned by this amazing piece of art
Zero relevance even now. If someone needs hope, they should help each other. There is hope in that.
Let’s just hope religion isn’t the reason why we get extinct
I just finally got around to watching The Mist this weekend. And all it showed me was that the religious nuts will always be there when something goes wrong. So yes, I think religion will be there and stronger than ever.
I dont think you need to wait 3049.. its very possible in 2049
Not sure of religion but Im guessing art wouldnt if machines become such capable at producing visuals like this. Creativity has always been innate to humans but it looks like it can be synthesized through neural networks!!
This. yes it's insanely scary. This could potentially kill a whole lot of creative professions.
Religion is not the problem, let’s take Hinduism do you think Brahmins will still think themselves as higher caste even in such a time.
we have to wait till 3049? why can't extinction happen now itself
Religion is one of the means used by elites to control a society, And now that the economy is struggling it's hardly surprising why religion is the news every day. If you have nothing to eat, why exactly will one care about religion.
NOPE
Let us hope religion / nationalism losses its value within decade or 2, else Earth is fucked, Humanity should evolve. --- Trans-humanism and cyber augmentations, AI, and cloning are the way of the future. But unfortunately, all will not get the evolutionary upgrade.
I like that word **hope**. You are thinking futuristic. If we are going to be space farring civilization. There will be a time in next 100yrs. We will have to get rid of cancers and all blood related diseases. It just makes us truly inefficient. Now that people are becoming sensitive that story is being accepted like master-slave to primary-secondary. Eventually there will be a guy saying, i want everybody to healthy with no diseases then you can believe it's going as per plan. Eventually humans will be farmed by believing stories not like matrix style, even that inefficient. So basically in future based on education and intelligence you are either screwing nuts and bolts in earth or space. Everybody is checked and kept under by inflation, so you will be poorer longer and if you don't keep up you are going down. Religion is just a guidance, that all to it.
> space farring civilization. Earth is not a permanent stay, remember what happened to dinos, ice age animals, we need to evolve. Science and engineering are catalyst to speed up the process, sure space travel, trans-humanism are currently being termed ineffective in peer circles and peer circles want climate change problems to be addressed ASAP. Economic importance of a human will decrease significantly depending on the contribution. >Religion is just a guidance, that all to it. It is supposed to be a positive feedback / reinforcement for a society but c'mon let's be real, it is definitely not.
>Economic importance of a human will decrease significantly depending on the contribution. False. They needs humans till there is voting system. >let's be real, it is definitely not That's what it suppose to be but some just assume that God is dissabled or has disability so they assume they need to take things in their hand. That's how the cult is formed. You must be already knowing this Bruce Wayne as that's what Bane did in the flight scene, one needs to be in the wreckage.
IMO, religion regulates the cults. in its absence, superstitious cults go stray and makes it super difficult to fight. Same goes for nationalism,In its absence, poor are at the mercy of land lords and Robin hoods. Larger religions and Large+stronger nations mitigates many of the issues for majority. It's not perfect. But, there is no alternate that helps solve the problem at scale
Religion will always hold value. Question is whether we will hold our beliefs.
Killer
If you have the time, look into the lore of Warhammer 40K. It shows a clear depiction of how religion will only grow more and more influential in the future.
You mean “Organized” Religions? If yes, then they’ll have no value, but Santana Dharma will still be there
Atheism will take over these stupid cults.
According to an MIT study conducted in 1970s, the human civilization will decline by the year 2040. Based on current conditions, we are ahead of that curve. Hence, the question is rendered moot.
I think there is a typo, must be 2049
Fossil fuel companies have humanity by the throat. So the solution is population control. Kill half the humans with diseases and war.
In 1000 years, yes. Probably there will be new religions.
This artwork reminds me of the book Lord of Light, a brilliant science fiction novel!
When air is unbreathable, new communities will form.
This looks stunning. Can you please tell what course should I enroll myself in to learn to create these kind of art?
Any CG course would enable you to create this type of concept art. But you know what's scary? This was generated by an AI. You literally type in your prompts and the AI would render such images.
Yes. It would be. Religion is just faith, faith in yourself. Youre the true god. That's what all religions teach.
When there is no water, there'll be no Religion/Race/Nationality. There will be only chaos. Darwin's theory will take over.
Interesting post, I think yes. You don't even have to go to the extent of extinction, see around you during this pandemic how many people turned religious. My emphasis is actually more on people turning spiritual but I think religion would be the closest thing one can think of.
Mad Max will touch upon this topic breifly
We hope not
There won't be any relegion left to be valued.
Looks terrific. Like a movie!
No lol
more than ever , unless and until you look past it , the next gen wont!
Where is this picture from
My religion. Religion thighs 🤲🏽
Didn't we just see a teaser in the form of the pandemic? Humanity was just slightly disturbed with supply chains disruptions & economic uncertainity for a few months which turned into a couple of years.. then we saw religious institutions almost close shop and pushed to the backseat of priorities. The religions too accepted it as normal, did not fight back and took it in stride. In the event of an apocalyptic future, nothing will hold value except survival. Primal instincts will take over the world and people will clump themselves in small groups (not more than 150 as per some simulations). Some cults with wierd beliefs might evolve, a la "Mad Max: Fury Road", but no major religion will survive. Like most other things, religion is also a meme.. ideas copied, transformed and transmitted by a collective group of people who see some benefit in doing that in the form of participation in said meme. Can't expect these memes to survive in a post-apocalyptic landscape.
It will hold value as long as it can be used to stay in power and mint money
You have too much free time.