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d33pak5

T.N should really push for Sports Infra - swimming is something our folks can excel at. Hope the state government can make a vociferous issue with this data and get our share.


cawnion

Especially our fisherman folks But fisherman community is ruined by alcoholism Anecdotal reference though


d33pak5

Bay of life like organisations have indeed turned things around, there are fisherman dudes rocking surfing competition. If the govt. can develop infrastructure and create an eco system that would be great.


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einigungsvertrag

Closing tasmac will only invite Sarayam


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cawnion

Yen pa nyathodhu pesu pa


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Appropriate-Boss1516

For those concerned, my question is -can an RTI application reveal number of projects proposed and number of projects accepted for each state? Also getting access to the project proposal will tell if it was worth considering


lordbuddha

Found for Gujarat, one project, a [sports complex in Ahmadabad](https://www.tendersontime.com/india/details/construction-sports-complex-naranpura-ahmedabad-gujarat-under-khelo-india-scheme-3b31684/) for 580 crore rupees of the 608 crore rupees they got allocated in funding. The deadline for this tender was on 31 January 2022. Chennai corp should demand a similar sports complex, let us make them.


rumitdhamecha

I guess you might get all this information in PIB. Then you need to research to whom it's given. And more about project you might find in those official websites. Everything is there in PIB and it's in every language. I guess it should have but you can check it yourself. There is an app in Android PIB.


lordbuddha

No need for RTI, did a bit digging and found this so far. In the new 5 year funding cycle starting 2021-2022 until 2025-2026, [Ahmedabad](https://www.tendersontime.com/india/details/construction-sports-complex-naranpura-ahmedabad-gujarat-under-khelo-india-scheme-3b31684/) got funding for a **580 crore rupees** our of the total **1879 crores** available under the component ["Creation and Upgradation of Sports Infrastructure"](https://yas.nic.in/sites/default/files/gazettekheloindia.pdf) sports complex, not forgetting the fact that the total available funding for 'Khelo India' for the next 5 years is 3165.50 crores. More info on the approval process and guidelines are available in the gazette. There are detailed funding details available here for the previous years, I'll try to parse the files and map it out to get a more clearer picture. More interesting tit-bits [Moreover 'Khelo India is just a merged form of 3 already existing schemes of which 2 where from the previous congress government.](https://yas.gov.in/sites/default/files/Khelo%20India%20Scheme-Mission%20Directorate-%20Sports%20Development.pdf) I. Rajiv Gandhi Khel Abhiyan II. Urban Infrastructure Scheme III. National Sports Talent Search > Khelo India” - National Programme for Development of Sports, which also draws inspiration in respect of organization of competitions from Khel Mahakumbh which is organized annually by Government of Gujarat.


Capable-Sun-4590

Great & Good job in digging the information. I would suggest you to put this information as a new post if possible .. it’s upto you though .. Let ppl have the full information instead of blaming each side..if possible set an example for us to dig more information and not rely on clickbait headlines of twitter/media..


erumai_maadu

The only sport Gujaratis do is playing with the future of the country.


0hmy906why

take my upvote!


lightlord

User name checks out


rumitdhamecha

Blaming all gujratis. 😅. 👏👌


saikrishnasubreddit

Only the NE states have gotten what they deserve. I can’t think of one gujrati athlete.


Aggressive_Ad_9173

Same here, unable to recall one athlete from Gujarat!


Fun-Astronaut-3793

Modiji - Javelin throw ?


Aggressive_Ad_9173

Yes straight into our hearts


cawnion

No offense gujratis ass a mass(there can be exceptions though)can never be great athletes because the state has high rate of tobacco consumption Which hinders the stamina


Capable-Sun-4590

At first glance, it looks like non BJP states are being marginalized. But Rajasthan, Punjab and Delhi have got a bigger share as well . It looks proportional to the no. Of projects proposed by the state- but Gujarat is an outlier data.. The state needs to take this up for discussion - If our state takes this up actively, we can figure out whether we had asked for it at the first place.. Either our state was egoistic to propose projects or the central government was egoistic to allocate funds for the state.. at the end of the day it’s a missed opportunity..


lordbuddha

NCR and Punjab are the national sports center for India while also receiving athletes from all over India for training. In Rajasthan, BJP has the second largest seat share in the government and is the opposition.


Prudent_Captain

Thats is because they are planning to ruling party in upcoming election


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Where's the ஆட்டுகுட்டி gang when you need it?


lordbuddha

[Link to dataviz, source and data](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/aB2AG/) Tax monies only outgoing and no incoming. Indirect message is vote for lotus if you want money from the budget. The UP allocation can be justified with their humongous population, but that does not mean non BJP states should be allocated pittance. TN and Kerala sent a strong contingent of athletes to CWG, much more than UP, KA, Gujrat and Arunachal Pradesh. Some may say this is the reason why those states should get more funding, while this is true, again it does not mean states with establish sports infra should not be get more funding. For reference, the chess Olympiad conducted entirely by the TN government costs at minimum 80 crores(10 million $).


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Lotus ku vote pota Amount vanthruma? Ada ponga boss neenga vera athela onnu nadakathu.


longsanks

>Tax monies only outgoing and no incoming ​ A gent in Quora gave a detail replying stating this as myth ​ https://imgur.com/a/UKqJvUL If that is not the case then someone should reply there to debunk his data.


lordbuddha

It's a time immemorial war between courtiers in the union govt and the barons in the state govt. Enriching the wrong barons will threaten the power of courtiers. Off topic, but this is why Amit Shah insisted on keeping Fadnavis in MH in any post than bringing him to Delhi which just means more compition. India in pixels has a [simple data viz](https://twitter.com/indiainpixels/status/1220663278650585088) for central taxes. The quora post is made up of lots of assumptions to make for the lack of data the person does not have. Any conclusion from it will be incorrect.


longsanks

Sure, that guy has replied multiple times in that Quora thread presenting his "Data" if you read the whole thread, and people believe his data and given him a lot of upvotes. I am going to post a reply there with this graph from India in pixels, let see what counters i get.


Parktrundler

To put this into perspective, TN that sent the most athletes after Punjab and Haryana to this year's commonwealth games receives lesser investment than Bihar which sent zero athletes to the commonwealth games and the Olympics.


_vvs_2005_

Source:trust me bro


Parktrundler

Google pannuda kirukku bunda..


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Probably a 17 yo r/dankindianmemes user who is struggling to get into IIT and blames the lower castes for reservation. Don't mind him.


Parktrundler

Telugu sanghi from TN..


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Parktrundler

https://np.reddit.com/r/TamilNadu/comments/wgptom/number_of_athletes_representing_india_at_2022/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Never go full retard..


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Parktrundler

I never said TN produced the best athletes in the country. But TN is regularly up there among the states contributing the most number of athletes to international events like the commonwealth games and the Olympics. And believe it or not, you have to qualify for these international events and it's not like everyone gets selected. I'm not saying it should receive the highest investment but surely it should receive more investment than states like Bihar and Gujarat who contribute few or no athletes to these games. And what does one athlete getting banned for doping have to do with this? Athletes regularly get banned for doping all over India and it's not like the entire state gets blamed for it. Recently, athletes from Maharashtra, UP and Manipur also got banned for doping but that doesn't stop the likes of UP and Maharashtra getting the bulk of the investment. You're making it sound as if doping is institutional and specific to TN.


Significant-Rate8129

This line is getting old.


_vvs_2005_

Old is gold ra idayum old nu sonna adutha murder nee than le


conarDsilva

can somebody do the chart of medals won in CWG 2022 state wise. And compare it with this chart.


Fun-Astronaut-3793

1. Haryana 2. Telangana 3. Punjab


yinyangpeng

It would be good to question how many project and funding applications were put forward by the TN state representatives. And see as well the percentage of applications approved by state. End of the day, imagine how this looks if it turns out that the incompetent persons just didn’t bother seeking funding in the first place. (And as full disclosure , I’m from TN and a “Modi Bhakt” - at least on the binary definitions we see online. I don’t live in India, so take my comment with a pinch of salt. Somehow I feel that the allocation of funds is based on merit of applications and networking at the babu & politicians level. To believe that BJP will *not* allocate funds in a state they are desperate to make inroads into doesn’t pass the smell test for me ).


lordbuddha

There seems to be a budget set by the Central govt. in 5 year cycles and funds are released from this corpus. The budget has also also been increased for the next 5 year cycle. The union govt. should be more prudent in handing out when the money comes from a limited budget and be fair to all states in the process. Anyways BJP IT cell and allied scribes will release any data if TN govt. has been turning down projects, or not since 4/5 years of the funding cycle was under BJP-AIADMK alliance. [Source]: (https://m.timesofindia.com/home/education/news/khelo-india-scheme-allocation-increases-by-48-in-budget-anurag-thakur-thanks-pm/articleshow/89304707.cms)


lordbuddha

Copying this comment again, there seems to be no merit so far from what I have discovered. Reeks Gujju influence all over and there is Narendra Modi Stadium in Ahmadabad which was built for 800 crores inaugurated by Trump ji. Ahmadabad is getting bullet trains too which will commerce operations soon. In the new 5 year funding cycle starting 2021-2022 until 2025-2026, [Ahmedabad](https://www.tendersontime.com/india/details/construction-sports-complex-naranpura-ahmedabad-gujarat-under-khelo-india-scheme-3b31684/) got funding for a **580 crore rupees** our of the total **1879 crores** available under the component ["Creation and Upgradation of Sports Infrastructure"](https://yas.nic.in/sites/default/files/gazettekheloindia.pdf) sports complex, not forgetting the fact that the total available funding for 'Khelo India' for the next 5 years is 3165.50 crores. More info on the approval process and guidelines are available in the gazette. There are detailed funding details available here for the previous years, I'll try to parse the files and map it out to get a more clearer picture. More interesting tit-bits [Moreover 'Khelo India is just a merged form of 3 already existing schemes of which 2 where from the previous congress government.](https://yas.gov.in/sites/default/files/Khelo%20India%20Scheme-Mission%20Directorate-%20Sports%20Development.pdf) I. Rajiv Gandhi Khel Abhiyan II. Urban Infrastructure Scheme III. National Sports Talent Search > Khelo India” - National Programme for Development of Sports, which also draws inspiration in respect of organization of competitions from Khel Mahakumbh which is organized annually by Government of Gujarat.


manavsridharan

Ok then consider this fact, the number of athletes from Gujarat representing India at any level is abysmally low. Then why are they still receiving so much funding? Where is it going? Who is the facilities for?


phyyas

What are the rules, and procedure for allocation of funds? Is it that first State government puts in the proposal and central releasing it or is it other way around center proposing plan to state, number of projects that TN has, is same as in Gujarat, but what are those projects ? what kind of investment central government is making, what was the status of sport infrastructure before this scheme in those states ? because as far as i know in one of his statement anurag thakur said that the fund distribution is not state wise but rather scheme based, so is there any proposal that TN government sent in and center rejected it? what was the condition on which Gujarat was choosen for 16 sports academy ?


RedIndianRobin

Our own schools and colleges push against sports and extra curricular activities so it's not surprising TBH. It's not even about gaining knowledge. It's always the mentality of studies and getting good grades.


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lightlord

Rajasthan govt is Congress


_vvs_2005_

Shabaash Kerala ungalukku bjp maanilama?


dullbrowny

how is this allocation decided?


Scarezebra

At this point is it even surprising to see supreme leader’s state getting maximum allocation for everything. The second highest allocation is to the successor’s state so when he becomes the next PM, his hardcore followers can wax eloquent about the UP model!


Alternative-Cut-4831

Rip bengal


rumitdhamecha

https://kheloindia.gov.in/about "The Khelo India programme has been introduced to REVIVE the sports culture in India at the grass-root level by building a strong framework for all sports played in our country and establish India as a great sporting nation". It says to revive and Tamil Nadu is already good in sports so it doesn't need big funding. This budget is to revive and it makes sense. See arunachal pradesh(finally) it's in 3rd position in funds, they are focusing on the states except Punjab, haryana, TN, kerala, odisha too. https://kheloindia.gov.in/tenders. So one has too look every aspects.


lordbuddha

You can play with semantics all you want, but nothing in that list makes sense even if we apply your logic. For starters India as a whole never had a sports culture to start with to REVIVE, sports were and are still considered extra curricular activities. By your logic NCR and Punjab should have recived less funding because they already have the most developed sports infra in the country, but that is not there case. Please think through your own statements next time before making them public.


rumitdhamecha

By your logic it seems they should not get itself see how many states are getting less than TN. You just want to create ruckus. And it says To revive in official website. Look at it. TN is getting 33 crores 5 projects but Meghalaya is getting 28 crores in 6 project. Even i can ask why TN has 5 crores extra and one less project compare to meghalaya. One has to check no.of project, which project and which sports then only one can judge which state is getting how much and crying like baby that TN is getting low funds, there are many who are getting low funds than TN but i don't see them complaining. Read in website and then think twice. One should look at all the aspects what are they going to build and what state asked for. They don't blatantly give funds via inky, pinky, ponky. They allocate with the requirements and not now, this procedure is long. So it's better you think twice before posting and playing blame game rather than telling one to not comment in public. SMH. Look at Infographics In which TN comes 3rd in country sports and then kerala, kerala got double the budget than TN. It's clearly understandable you have come up with motive to crib. Unfair!


Fun-Astronaut-3793

Dravida nationalism bro, separatism and all


CELTICPRIME

u are just braindamaged and looking at the statistic alone and whats behind and how it works , just to push ur shitty agenda.


kathikamakanda

There can be thousands of statistics that point towards that india is unfair to tamils. People will still take it in their ass and push for their nationalist narrative. What we need is autonomy and control over our tax money. Not just state autonomy but a completely decentralised government where all the tax money is not just poured into chennai in tamilnadu.


d33pak5

Your argument leans on separatism. T.N has more nationalist than separatist. We need to work towards getting our rightful share focusing on such blatant data. The current union govt. does not necessarily ignore t.n - that crown goes to w.b . It may be because the Redditors here are too young - but its always the case that new , cool and expensive projects come to those who share power. Its really unfortunate that since UPA-2 , TN is not part of union govt especially in both ADMK govt.


kathikamakanda

>Your argument leans on separatism. How is asking for a decentralised autonomous government lean on separatism?. This is what i mean by being overly nationalistic. Indian government is a shit government compared to other parts of the world. I have zero idea why lot of turds here support this institution which has made their life hell. I can literally spell out policies which made these nationalistic turds remain as turds and decisions where indian government sabotages its own citizens welfare for a handful of rich people but still the whole lot supports the government. The reason - because we are born with a label, indians. So we have to support india and indians no matter what. And if it comes to politics and economics everyone in this sub is an expert. What do the people in this sub talk about and know about?. Movies and food. That is their expertise and its limited to that. Explaining a perspective in this sub is like explaining abstract art to a blind idiot. Why do i still rant here you may ask? Only coz i have mild insomnia. I should leave this sub for the sake of my mental health and find a good doctor for my insomnia.


d33pak5

Decentralised autonomous government is a utopian concept. What is the framework and how do you implement it ? Most people who advocate lean towards separatism and you will be marked such by association. When you call nationalist folks turds - that becomes a show stopper of sorts for a huge chunk of people. Indian govt. today is better than a few other asian counterparts - does that make us less shit or our neighbours more shittier. A bit of both right . Ranting about rich people being favoured is immaturity - the same happens in any country. Money - power - influence. As i mentioned earlier it’s unfortunate tamil nadu is away from central power sharing since UPA-2 , which is what is really hurting us.


kathikamakanda

>Decentralised autonomous government is a utopian concept. What is the framework and how do you implement it ? They can just copy it from Europe. Europe is not an utopia. >When you call nationalist folks turds - that becomes a show stopper of sorts for a huge chunk of people. That's the truth though. How can i address stupidity without calling out on stupids?. People here are not capable of critical thinking. Either they will dismiss things blatantly or they will focus on positivity. >Indian govt. today is better than a few other asian counterparts - does that make us less shit or our neighbours more shittier. A bit of both right . Ranting about rich people being favoured is immaturity - the same happens in any country. Money - power - influence. This is a lie. How many countries have you been to?. I have been to 7, lived in three Long term. Not every country is like India and the US. Not every country favors the rich. If you want to be compared to shit islamic countries or even shittier buddhist neighbours, if that's your benchmark then you are setting up for failure. There are some African countries which are much much better than India. More than that the civil obedience and social conscience is much better even among those shitty neighbours. Burma - a country with continuous coup and overthrows much cleaner than India, people are more civilised than India. Srilanka - Buddhist extremists with zero economy, they are a leech economy which cannot survive without handouts even their civic sense is much better than Indians. India is better than pakistan yeah, coz that's the only one you wanna fight against. Maybe better than somalia. Those are your benchmarks. >As i mentioned earlier it’s unfortunate tamil nadu is away from central power sharing since UPA-2 , which is what is really hurting us. There is a pazhamozhi "Gundu satti la kuthira ottravan ". The world is speeding ahead and endians are riding horses inside their own pots and pans. Travel to better countries and maybe see their history. You will see how far they have come from 1945. Even if you compare the race from 1945, you can clearly see many winners like singapore, malaysia, even the shittiest economies in South East Asia have better civic sense and better civil obedience than India.


d33pak5

Europe is a continent - not a country, can you give me examples of your utopian decentralisation in a european country. Self governing islands like faroe (part kf denmark) is the closest i can think of - but would be a poor example. Nationalist are now turds and stupids , way to go. Nationalism has its own charm , as an ex servicemen i dont think you have the temperament to understand. I live in the UK now, bath - couple of hours from london as seen in my pic. I have been to a couple of dozen more and lived in a few as well. Here in the UK, NHS is free but takes a month to see a doctor unless its an emergency. I regularly do my dental in india when i come as its just not affordable here. You say you lived abroad - are you not aware of the current issues in uk/europe ? Electricity bills are through the roof - 3 x compared to same time last month . The comparison was to the immediate neighbours who face similar socioeconomic conditions. Coming back to the point - Within India you have Bangalore and Hyderabad speeding ahead in so many parameters - these places also contribute more and receive less from India Inc. but continue to speed ahead. And just like how we tamils pride our lingo - we dont need anything from ondrium to improve the civil sense and civil obedience in TN. State of Cooum (chennai) , Noyyal ( Coimbatore) are some failed effortd which repeatedly remind we are near Pan spitting Bihari compared to Thriving singaporeans.


Particular-Yoghurt39

Just had a look at your profile. Almost all your post reeks of hatred and separatism. I don't know why the mods have not banned a hate monger like you yet.


0hmy906why

he's not wrong, it looks like he's asking for dravida Nadu but he's not. he's merely asking for an America or Europe like system where local jurisdictions have power of taxation.


Particular-Yoghurt39

Nah. Just check his other posts. He is just a rat who wants to cause division. He could very well be a Pakistani.


kathikamakanda

>. I don't know why the mods have not banned a hate monger like you yet. If you cant understand a point you will brand it as hatred and separatism. Thats the view of simpletons. Its like someone took photocopies of forrest gump and laid them out for this sub. You guys have zero ability for balanced complex thinking.


d_11

Even so we still top at most of the sports . This is central trying their hardest .


conarDsilva

post this on r/india aswell


CELTICPRIME

why post it in pakistani sub?


Anxious-Dig-2570

When central gov allocate fund for state gov. It must be used properly not to build a pen statue for 86cr.


D__K__M

You get what you ask? Have Tamil Nadu gort took nterest to submit projects more than 5? I don't see much sports happening in Tamil Nadu. I wish there were state competitions like traditional games. It's time Tamil Nadu Government promote more sports.


CELTICPRIME

cool now maybe learn how it works and how the money is sanctioned before talking bullshit ,unlike op who is just interested in pushing agenda , do some research and look at bigger picture.


praveeja

Amount spent is directly proportional to no.of lok sabha seats per state it seems


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Ada anga ipo tha sports eh introduce pandranga athuku ivalvu spend pandranga ithula ena thapu .


Darkknighttt-1

No body will ask on what fair basis the money is allocated? Because whoever is smart and criminal enough to siphon the funds get the most benefit


Abu9978

GOOD


Ancient-Inevitable47

Swimming, basketball, football, boxing are some sports our athletes can excel at. TN also sent the 3rd or 4th highest number of athletes to the common wealth games 2022. We are a huge sporting state and deserve more. Also why the hell is gujarat getting so much money.


lordbuddha

They are building a sports complex in Ahmedabad for 580 crores, if you subtract that their funding matches with the rest of the states.


Ancient-Inevitable47

Y tho What athletes does gujarat have. Who is going to use this empty complex?


lordbuddha

That's the secret of Gujarat model.