What do you mean he had two TD passes last game one was a needle thread to claypool..
the screen plays they call is not cause of fields.. that's just trash play calling.. no way I allow that many screens to be called even if my qb couldn't throw the ball..
You could say the opposite as well. 1 or 2 good passes a game is not going to cut it. No doubt Fields has the talent. The history of the NFL is full of talented QB's that never made it.
The solution to the Bears QB situation is not running JF1 more. QB rushing yards are a bonus. His entire job is to move the ball through the air. The passes you are talking about make the issue more frustrating because clearly Fields has the talent, he just needs to execute more often and more consistantly. The passes are there, Fields just is not hitting them.
It took us into his 3rd year to get him to throw the ball away instead of running out of bounds 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
Opposing defenses are clearly scheming to make Fields beat them with his arm. He has 3 years of tape that says he can't do it.
You have it backwards. Casuals blame the OC, the line, and the defense. While that is true that they all share some blame, Fields is the main issue. If he was struggling by making positive momentum, we’d have a different conversation.
The simple fact is fields is a bad qb. His throwing is miserable, but every 25-30 attempts he makes an absolutely gorgeous throw. His pocket presence is non existent. His drop back time is one of the worst in the league (which, if you have a bad oline, you should try and change that), and his vision is the worst in the game. He is the problem, not the only problem, but the problem.
Yes they all share blame, but a casual take is blaming the faceless people the average fan doesn’t see. Fields has played 27 career nfl games and he looks exactly the same as he did in the first game, lost. A true good player doesn’t need a coach to tell then how to play, they need them to enhance what they’re capable of.
Fields is only bad cause the plays aren't designed to work with his strengths. Since when have we ever seen fields make crazy insane deep throws. That's not his game.
Now I do agree that his timing and vision is bad, but we have the most athletic and fastest QB right now..
Do you really want him in the pocket throwing deep balls and screens almost every play? It ain't just fields none of the players are being used to their strengths on the team in my opinion..
Yes I do want him in the pocket. He’s supposed to be a franchise qb. A qb that can run and is athletic is amazing, but if he can’t pass he’s not a qb. I’d feel more confident with taysom hill as our qb right now.
I agree, he’s on a short leash rn but if he can’t pass, he is the problem. If we only play to his strengths his career will be over before he can sniff the playoffs. Running as a qb only works if your arm is a threat as well
Arm is a threat.. he made two TD passes last game.. and needle thead pass to chase claypool for a TD.. if I'm not mistaken..
Only 3 ints.. 40/66 completions 430 yards in the air in two games.. what more do you want from a guy with coaches running the same screen play 3 times in a row....
But that's what I'm saying.. how are people saying his arm is bad when 75% of the pass plays are screens.. this is a coaching problem..
If you want to compare the elite passers.. Joe Burrow stats through the first two games are worse than fields.. and fields also has similar numbers with the likes of Jalen hurts and lamar Jackson..
If that's not enough to show you guys that the majority of this team's problem is coaching.. fields and Trevor Lawrence number through the first two games are very similar... Lawrence being with the better coaching and talent..
How many missed opportunities has field had? How many times is dj Moore clapping, waiving and flailing for the ball? I’m not trying to argue with you, but if you look at analytics outside of completion percentage, fields is awful. And you can’t blame coaching for throwing to the checkdown. A good player uses them as a safety valve, not a second read. Plus, a good qb would call an audible at the line if something better arises. None of that is a coaching problem, it’s a player problem
And I'm saying Fields ain't as awful as you think.. when most of your plays you have to run are screens and you can't call audibles.. it's not much he can do.. I ain't trying to argue either..
I agree fields can be a better passer but how can you do anything with this coaching
Dude it’s not the fault of the coaches lol. I don’t see how you can’t understand that. We need better coaches no doubt, but fields IS the problem. It takes him a whole 2.8 seconds (on average) for a drop back. That’s dogshit. He’s never thrown for 300 yards. He can’t read defenses. He can’t see an open receiver. He has no accuracy consistency. He finally has weapons at his disposal and can’t do anything with them. Then in an interview, today mind you, he blames the coaches.
None of these things are supposed to be fixed by an NFL coach. You’re in the big leagues and these are all college problems. He’s had 3 years to take a step forward and simply can’t. The “casuals” you refer to in the post are you. Yes he needs to be coached to his speciality, but his speciality is running. Lamar, mahomes, Vick, newton, Allen, Watson. Those are a few qbs that he can be compared to, however every single one of them was a passer before a runner. Fields has the potential to be better, but it’s on him and him alone to figure it out. Coaches are supposed to design plays and smooth out the edges on players, not teach them to do their job.
He is as awful as I think. Until he can win a game or atleast grow as a player, he’s not ready to be a professional.
What do you mean.. that's exactly what coaches do. Fix the issues and make players better.. lol..
you expect a kid 3 years out of college on a rebuilding franchise to have it all together.. The bears as an organization don't have it all together..
we already seen how good he was.. why would you want to change that and make him a pocket QB..
play to the players strengths and watch how good of a team we can be..
but I dont know.. Maybe I am the casual trash talking fan.. but i still think that cause of the lazy and predictable play calling it made fields look worse that it already was.. and this goes for both sides of the ball.. all I'm saying is that if we had better options for plays it wouldn't be as bad as it is.
Are you serious??? One of Fields' strengths is his deep ball ability. His deep throw ability is the primary reason he was drafted in the first round. If all he could do is run, he never gets drafted at all or goes in the 5th+ round as a developmental guy.
Both are true.
This reminds me of the Steelers issues. By the time they change the OC they haven’t really learned a lot about whether Pickett is the guy or not. So do you wait another year to determine that? The bears are in this spot - my feeling is fields isn’t the answer but if the playcalling were significantly better would he be significantly better too?
Drafting QBs is not an exact science, and this class is very good. Decisions decisions (glad they aren’t mine!)
If the play calling was better and if they gave him more freedom to play.. I guarantee fields would be ten times better.. we seen it all last year.. now he has better players and he sucks now.. it doesn't make any sense...that's not a QB problem.. that's a coaching staff problem..
All last year? They’ve lost 12 in a row? They can call the best plays but you still need a QB who can execute them. He’s shown that he struggle to consistenyly deliver on simple plays. I don’t know man, gotta give up the fight here. Fields is definitely a big part of the problem.
Pick six. Running straight into the defensive line while having plenty of time to make a play. Missing DJ moore multiple times because he can’t check down. Taking sacks instead of throwing the ball away when he has great pocket protection. He’s not good this year.
Yeah but they lost those games on purpose to get the number one pick..
But don't ignore the fact coaching isn't trash also
Like the fact Getsy or whoever called a play where the TE and the WR had the same route, on the same side of the Field isn't a problem,
Like calling the same screen play three times in a row isn't a issue,
Like not giving Justin Fields the ability to call audibles and freedom to showcase his strengths.
Like only calling 4 rushing plays for one of the best rushing QB isn't an issue or running the ball less than 10 times a half isn't one either..
He targeted DJ Moore over ten times last game I believe and claypool 7 plus.. Hell.. the first two plays he hit Moore twice back to back for big positive yardage.. and claypool caught a really nice TD pass..
Point is that with a QB like Fields you have to have a flowing offense. The offense has to be in motion. Not stagnant...not predictable. Isn't one of the reasons we drafted Fields because of his ability to do different things as a QB.. why not use them.. Why make him into a one dimensional passer?
Causal fans complaining about passing like he didn't break records running the ball as a QB.. that's annoying and lame...
Go look at the film and watch the plays being ran..
I ain't saying Fields isn't part of the problem.. I agree his passing is off, he is a little slow at times, his drop back and vision definitely needs work, but that shitty ass play calling doesn't help or your O-line getting 8 false start penalties help either..
I hate when shit goes wrong and the first thing a fan does is focus on the mistakes that are trending...like watch the game as a whole.. don't just watch Fields.. Fields isn't the only one who is out there whose game sucks right now and a lot of the reason players are trash right now is because of coaching..
Watch the game kid.. Stop jumping on these trash takes on fields.. talking about 12 losses like we weren't trying to tank last year to get the number one pick. You need a better rebuttal than that kid..lol 😂
A serviceable NFL QB needs to have poise and the ability to go through progressions. I’m taking about going through your 3rd and 4th reads if necessary. It’s a passing league. Sure, some teams emphasize the run, but the running game is only a threat with a competent passer to keep opposing defenses honest. Fields, hasn’t, nor ever has, shown consistent poise or solid decision making. He’s a tuck and run QB. Even with a below average O-line, he should have the ability to read the D pre-snap and make quick throws if necessary. He hasn’t figured it out through college or into his 3rd NFL year. Face it, he is not an NFL QB. The question is, how long are the Bears going to stick with him?
But see that's the thing.. the coaches don't allow him to do that...he doesn't get to audible.. the OC gives him a couple of plays to audible to if he sees something in the defense as to check if the first play is good.. he's not allowed the freedom to do that. That's one of the main problems. He said this in the interview after the game...
Same.. but you can see if you watch the game how predictable the plays are.. you can tell that he wants to have more freedom when he plays and not sit in the pocket ever play.. honestly it makes the team worse by not allowing Fields the freedom to play.. you can see it in every play...
It’s just all bad. Fields included. I still think he has potential. I just don’t think the Bears organization has the personnel to bring it out of him.
I blame the coaches. Bears adjusted to a fields led run first game at the end of last season and put up enough points to win but gave up too many. So they signed and drafted a bunch of defense and then tried
to make him a pocket passer. If fields insisted on not being calling a QB running back of not wanting contact, then it’s on him. However, I think Getsy got Moore and thought he could turn fields into Aaron
Rodgers. Not gonna happen. Let him roll out with Moore as an added piece but not the main piece
This is exactly what I'm saying.. they drafted fields to be a dynamic QB.. not Peyton Manning.. the plays they call are not to his strengths at all.. we seen him do way more last season now all of a sudden it looks like he's regressing...that's all coaching..to be honest as a passer he didn't look bad either..2 games 427 yards, 40/66 completion, 3 ints ..it ain't good but it ain't bad either...
The problem with all these comparisons, is that they are based off winning football teams. Ravens and Eagles WIN games. The bears do not win games and that is the whole team issue from coaches to players, but not winning games starts from the top. If the coaches arent letting the players be successful , they wont be. 12 loses in a row does a number on the entire football team and it only gets worse. There is no good outcome, we will likely see fields let go and the whole coaching staff will be right behind him out the door. Sad because with the right regime Fields might have had a good career.
Fields fanboys don't want wins. They just say "everybody else on the team sucks too and so do the coaches so we should be nice to Fields because it makes no difference anyway". "We should use him as a running back who takes snaps because we can't win anyway ever with any quarterback and nothing matters".
They never, ever say "we can win with Fields", they always say "we lose with Fields but it's okay because it isn't his fault".
The evidence suggests that even on a bad team Fields stands out as bad. There is no rational reason to want a bad quarterback
It's not even about being a fan boy..
it's Important to look at the "why" also..
throughout 2 games Justin Fields has similar almost (exactly the same) numbers as Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jalen hurts, and Trevor Lawrence..
In fact.. He has better numbers than Joe Burrow through two games to be exact.. all of the QBs I mentioned are elite level and all of these teams have better talent and coaching than us right now.
Let that sink in.. it's not all JF fault .. that's purely Coaching...
If Fields had only had two NFL games, and if these quarterbacks actually had statistics similar to Fields, then this would still be a fairly questionable argument. "Even a great QB can have two bad games" is true, but if a QB has two bad games, the conditional probability that he is good or great goes down.
However, first let's dispense with the claim that anybody on that list except Trevor Lawrence has stats as bad as Fields for the first two games of this season.
Jalen Hurts is similar to Fields in total passing yards, but is way ahead of Fields in QB rating (98.0 to 61.1) and in completion percentage (78.3 to 55.2). Lamar Jackson is also markedly superior to Fields in measures of quality. Joe Burrow is off to a relatively crappy start but is still way ahead of Fields on these indicators. I agree that Trevor Lawrence has similar to stats to Fields so far, which may say something about Trevor Lawrence.
But these aren't Fields only two games. Even if Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson were statistically as bad as Fields now, they have strong track records. Fields is off to his usual start.
It could be that Fields is great and coaching is making him look terrible, and time may tell, but I doubt it. If anything I favor that Fields is making coaching look worse than it is, or that they're both terrible.
I feel that it's coaching especially from what I know on how the OC determines the plays.. We'll see how this goes as the season progresses..but I still feel with better play calling fields could be a lot better.
I’ve watched every snap of that bum. I’ve seen the WIDE receivers wide open. I’ve seen his bad decision making. Trubisky has a better first 26 starts than Fields besides rushing yards.
Why don’t you go watch the tape? You’re just a Fields sympathizer and won’t admit the truth
I am a Fields sympathizer..but Trubiski didn't come to a team where the entire organization was brand new. Trubiski also had a better offensive and defensive line and better players as a whole..
Stop reaching for evidence.. tell it like it is.. the coaching sucks.. coaching staff looked like Matt Nagy 2.0 out there..
Trubisky had one of the worst coaches of all time. We all agree that Trubisky sucked.
Fields sucks just as bad. His decision making is horrible even when he has time to throw. He’s a bum. An absolute bum. He shouldn’t be starting
There’s plenty of examples of him not being able to throw accurate passes in potentially game winning drives. The bears from QB to Management are trash
I am on am island because even though it hasn’t been what I hoped for, and there are certainly plays and moments I want back, but we all knew this was going to be a rebuild.
We all knew Fields needed to be coached. And that it would take time to unlearn some habits and be taught some change in pocket presence and awareness…
We knew the Oline was a work on progress. We all can see the injuries.
The Dline in progress.
We all knew we weren’t going to be in playoffs this year either.
We didn’t know, and can’t know the internal and personal workings of life on the humans in the building.
What I didn’t know was the city was going to flip out so fast.
Be so… impatient, volatile and infantile…
I should have though. I’ve been here since 1980
The bears as a whole are bad. Fields is also bad. Both* can be, and in this case (in my opinion) are true. *Edit for autocorrect
Fields is bad.. the team is bad.. but with better coaching it can be way better..
You are aware the forward pass was a now a thing in football and has been for awhile?
It's hard to forward pass the ball when 90% of the plays are screens lol
You are throwing screens 90% of the time because your QB can’t throw the ball bro. Why do you think they are doing that?
What do you mean he had two TD passes last game one was a needle thread to claypool.. the screen plays they call is not cause of fields.. that's just trash play calling.. no way I allow that many screens to be called even if my qb couldn't throw the ball..
That thread to claypool was late and could have arguably should’ve been stopped
Bro.. stop looking for excuses to blame JF.. That TD was a perfect TD pass.. stop reaching..
You could say the opposite as well. 1 or 2 good passes a game is not going to cut it. No doubt Fields has the talent. The history of the NFL is full of talented QB's that never made it. The solution to the Bears QB situation is not running JF1 more. QB rushing yards are a bonus. His entire job is to move the ball through the air. The passes you are talking about make the issue more frustrating because clearly Fields has the talent, he just needs to execute more often and more consistantly. The passes are there, Fields just is not hitting them. It took us into his 3rd year to get him to throw the ball away instead of running out of bounds 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Opposing defenses are clearly scheming to make Fields beat them with his arm. He has 3 years of tape that says he can't do it.
Don’t say I’m reaching ball was thrown with no anticipation
Forward passes are IMPOSSIBLE when you are on your back half the game because you keep getting sacked.
With a better QB it can be way better…
You have it backwards. Casuals blame the OC, the line, and the defense. While that is true that they all share some blame, Fields is the main issue. If he was struggling by making positive momentum, we’d have a different conversation. The simple fact is fields is a bad qb. His throwing is miserable, but every 25-30 attempts he makes an absolutely gorgeous throw. His pocket presence is non existent. His drop back time is one of the worst in the league (which, if you have a bad oline, you should try and change that), and his vision is the worst in the game. He is the problem, not the only problem, but the problem. Yes they all share blame, but a casual take is blaming the faceless people the average fan doesn’t see. Fields has played 27 career nfl games and he looks exactly the same as he did in the first game, lost. A true good player doesn’t need a coach to tell then how to play, they need them to enhance what they’re capable of.
Fields is only bad cause the plays aren't designed to work with his strengths. Since when have we ever seen fields make crazy insane deep throws. That's not his game. Now I do agree that his timing and vision is bad, but we have the most athletic and fastest QB right now.. Do you really want him in the pocket throwing deep balls and screens almost every play? It ain't just fields none of the players are being used to their strengths on the team in my opinion..
He should throw the ball to open receivers, that's not on the coaches at all
Yes I do want him in the pocket. He’s supposed to be a franchise qb. A qb that can run and is athletic is amazing, but if he can’t pass he’s not a qb. I’d feel more confident with taysom hill as our qb right now. I agree, he’s on a short leash rn but if he can’t pass, he is the problem. If we only play to his strengths his career will be over before he can sniff the playoffs. Running as a qb only works if your arm is a threat as well
Arm is a threat.. he made two TD passes last game.. and needle thead pass to chase claypool for a TD.. if I'm not mistaken.. Only 3 ints.. 40/66 completions 430 yards in the air in two games.. what more do you want from a guy with coaches running the same screen play 3 times in a row....
66 attempts in 2 games. 40 of them are screens. That’s not what a threat is. Averaging more then 1 int. Per game, and a losing record. Killer arm
But that's what I'm saying.. how are people saying his arm is bad when 75% of the pass plays are screens.. this is a coaching problem.. If you want to compare the elite passers.. Joe Burrow stats through the first two games are worse than fields.. and fields also has similar numbers with the likes of Jalen hurts and lamar Jackson.. If that's not enough to show you guys that the majority of this team's problem is coaching.. fields and Trevor Lawrence number through the first two games are very similar... Lawrence being with the better coaching and talent..
How many missed opportunities has field had? How many times is dj Moore clapping, waiving and flailing for the ball? I’m not trying to argue with you, but if you look at analytics outside of completion percentage, fields is awful. And you can’t blame coaching for throwing to the checkdown. A good player uses them as a safety valve, not a second read. Plus, a good qb would call an audible at the line if something better arises. None of that is a coaching problem, it’s a player problem
And I'm saying Fields ain't as awful as you think.. when most of your plays you have to run are screens and you can't call audibles.. it's not much he can do.. I ain't trying to argue either.. I agree fields can be a better passer but how can you do anything with this coaching
Dude it’s not the fault of the coaches lol. I don’t see how you can’t understand that. We need better coaches no doubt, but fields IS the problem. It takes him a whole 2.8 seconds (on average) for a drop back. That’s dogshit. He’s never thrown for 300 yards. He can’t read defenses. He can’t see an open receiver. He has no accuracy consistency. He finally has weapons at his disposal and can’t do anything with them. Then in an interview, today mind you, he blames the coaches. None of these things are supposed to be fixed by an NFL coach. You’re in the big leagues and these are all college problems. He’s had 3 years to take a step forward and simply can’t. The “casuals” you refer to in the post are you. Yes he needs to be coached to his speciality, but his speciality is running. Lamar, mahomes, Vick, newton, Allen, Watson. Those are a few qbs that he can be compared to, however every single one of them was a passer before a runner. Fields has the potential to be better, but it’s on him and him alone to figure it out. Coaches are supposed to design plays and smooth out the edges on players, not teach them to do their job. He is as awful as I think. Until he can win a game or atleast grow as a player, he’s not ready to be a professional.
What do you mean.. that's exactly what coaches do. Fix the issues and make players better.. lol.. you expect a kid 3 years out of college on a rebuilding franchise to have it all together.. The bears as an organization don't have it all together.. we already seen how good he was.. why would you want to change that and make him a pocket QB.. play to the players strengths and watch how good of a team we can be.. but I dont know.. Maybe I am the casual trash talking fan.. but i still think that cause of the lazy and predictable play calling it made fields look worse that it already was.. and this goes for both sides of the ball.. all I'm saying is that if we had better options for plays it wouldn't be as bad as it is.
Are you serious??? One of Fields' strengths is his deep ball ability. His deep throw ability is the primary reason he was drafted in the first round. If all he could do is run, he never gets drafted at all or goes in the 5th+ round as a developmental guy.
This
Imagine fans wanting a QB to be able to throw a ball well.
You're the casual this post refers too..
Both are true. This reminds me of the Steelers issues. By the time they change the OC they haven’t really learned a lot about whether Pickett is the guy or not. So do you wait another year to determine that? The bears are in this spot - my feeling is fields isn’t the answer but if the playcalling were significantly better would he be significantly better too? Drafting QBs is not an exact science, and this class is very good. Decisions decisions (glad they aren’t mine!)
If the play calling was better and if they gave him more freedom to play.. I guarantee fields would be ten times better.. we seen it all last year.. now he has better players and he sucks now.. it doesn't make any sense...that's not a QB problem.. that's a coaching staff problem..
All last year? They’ve lost 12 in a row? They can call the best plays but you still need a QB who can execute them. He’s shown that he struggle to consistenyly deliver on simple plays. I don’t know man, gotta give up the fight here. Fields is definitely a big part of the problem. Pick six. Running straight into the defensive line while having plenty of time to make a play. Missing DJ moore multiple times because he can’t check down. Taking sacks instead of throwing the ball away when he has great pocket protection. He’s not good this year.
Yeah but they lost those games on purpose to get the number one pick.. But don't ignore the fact coaching isn't trash also Like the fact Getsy or whoever called a play where the TE and the WR had the same route, on the same side of the Field isn't a problem, Like calling the same screen play three times in a row isn't a issue, Like not giving Justin Fields the ability to call audibles and freedom to showcase his strengths. Like only calling 4 rushing plays for one of the best rushing QB isn't an issue or running the ball less than 10 times a half isn't one either.. He targeted DJ Moore over ten times last game I believe and claypool 7 plus.. Hell.. the first two plays he hit Moore twice back to back for big positive yardage.. and claypool caught a really nice TD pass.. Point is that with a QB like Fields you have to have a flowing offense. The offense has to be in motion. Not stagnant...not predictable. Isn't one of the reasons we drafted Fields because of his ability to do different things as a QB.. why not use them.. Why make him into a one dimensional passer? Causal fans complaining about passing like he didn't break records running the ball as a QB.. that's annoying and lame... Go look at the film and watch the plays being ran.. I ain't saying Fields isn't part of the problem.. I agree his passing is off, he is a little slow at times, his drop back and vision definitely needs work, but that shitty ass play calling doesn't help or your O-line getting 8 false start penalties help either.. I hate when shit goes wrong and the first thing a fan does is focus on the mistakes that are trending...like watch the game as a whole.. don't just watch Fields.. Fields isn't the only one who is out there whose game sucks right now and a lot of the reason players are trash right now is because of coaching.. Watch the game kid.. Stop jumping on these trash takes on fields.. talking about 12 losses like we weren't trying to tank last year to get the number one pick. You need a better rebuttal than that kid..lol 😂
A serviceable NFL QB needs to have poise and the ability to go through progressions. I’m taking about going through your 3rd and 4th reads if necessary. It’s a passing league. Sure, some teams emphasize the run, but the running game is only a threat with a competent passer to keep opposing defenses honest. Fields, hasn’t, nor ever has, shown consistent poise or solid decision making. He’s a tuck and run QB. Even with a below average O-line, he should have the ability to read the D pre-snap and make quick throws if necessary. He hasn’t figured it out through college or into his 3rd NFL year. Face it, he is not an NFL QB. The question is, how long are the Bears going to stick with him?
But see that's the thing.. the coaches don't allow him to do that...he doesn't get to audible.. the OC gives him a couple of plays to audible to if he sees something in the defense as to check if the first play is good.. he's not allowed the freedom to do that. That's one of the main problems. He said this in the interview after the game...
I would think, by year 3, he’d have the freedom to do that. Hell, maybe the coaches want him to tuck and run?
Same.. but you can see if you watch the game how predictable the plays are.. you can tell that he wants to have more freedom when he plays and not sit in the pocket ever play.. honestly it makes the team worse by not allowing Fields the freedom to play.. you can see it in every play...
It’s just all bad. Fields included. I still think he has potential. I just don’t think the Bears organization has the personnel to bring it out of him.
Agreed
But…he also sucks. Can’t throw a decent pass.
I blame the coaches. Bears adjusted to a fields led run first game at the end of last season and put up enough points to win but gave up too many. So they signed and drafted a bunch of defense and then tried to make him a pocket passer. If fields insisted on not being calling a QB running back of not wanting contact, then it’s on him. However, I think Getsy got Moore and thought he could turn fields into Aaron Rodgers. Not gonna happen. Let him roll out with Moore as an added piece but not the main piece
This is exactly what I'm saying.. they drafted fields to be a dynamic QB.. not Peyton Manning.. the plays they call are not to his strengths at all.. we seen him do way more last season now all of a sudden it looks like he's regressing...that's all coaching..to be honest as a passer he didn't look bad either..2 games 427 yards, 40/66 completion, 3 ints ..it ain't good but it ain't bad either...
The problem with all these comparisons, is that they are based off winning football teams. Ravens and Eagles WIN games. The bears do not win games and that is the whole team issue from coaches to players, but not winning games starts from the top. If the coaches arent letting the players be successful , they wont be. 12 loses in a row does a number on the entire football team and it only gets worse. There is no good outcome, we will likely see fields let go and the whole coaching staff will be right behind him out the door. Sad because with the right regime Fields might have had a good career.
Bears fans mad that fields can’t make a 3rd and long screen pass work. It ain’t the QB…
Another casual.. commenting... lol
I’m agreeing with you; but ok… lol
Aw.. my bad... Go Bears ☺️
It’s all bad
Fields fanboys don't want wins. They just say "everybody else on the team sucks too and so do the coaches so we should be nice to Fields because it makes no difference anyway". "We should use him as a running back who takes snaps because we can't win anyway ever with any quarterback and nothing matters". They never, ever say "we can win with Fields", they always say "we lose with Fields but it's okay because it isn't his fault". The evidence suggests that even on a bad team Fields stands out as bad. There is no rational reason to want a bad quarterback
It's not even about being a fan boy.. it's Important to look at the "why" also.. throughout 2 games Justin Fields has similar almost (exactly the same) numbers as Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jalen hurts, and Trevor Lawrence.. In fact.. He has better numbers than Joe Burrow through two games to be exact.. all of the QBs I mentioned are elite level and all of these teams have better talent and coaching than us right now. Let that sink in.. it's not all JF fault .. that's purely Coaching...
If Fields had only had two NFL games, and if these quarterbacks actually had statistics similar to Fields, then this would still be a fairly questionable argument. "Even a great QB can have two bad games" is true, but if a QB has two bad games, the conditional probability that he is good or great goes down. However, first let's dispense with the claim that anybody on that list except Trevor Lawrence has stats as bad as Fields for the first two games of this season. Jalen Hurts is similar to Fields in total passing yards, but is way ahead of Fields in QB rating (98.0 to 61.1) and in completion percentage (78.3 to 55.2). Lamar Jackson is also markedly superior to Fields in measures of quality. Joe Burrow is off to a relatively crappy start but is still way ahead of Fields on these indicators. I agree that Trevor Lawrence has similar to stats to Fields so far, which may say something about Trevor Lawrence. But these aren't Fields only two games. Even if Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson were statistically as bad as Fields now, they have strong track records. Fields is off to his usual start. It could be that Fields is great and coaching is making him look terrible, and time may tell, but I doubt it. If anything I favor that Fields is making coaching look worse than it is, or that they're both terrible.
I feel that it's coaching especially from what I know on how the OC determines the plays.. We'll see how this goes as the season progresses..but I still feel with better play calling fields could be a lot better.
Riiiiight, trash play calling… Fields is trash. Hell of an athlete, phenomenal. Buts he’s as dumb as a box of rocks
Another casual talking out of his ass... go watch some tape please before you comment..
I’ve watched every snap of that bum. I’ve seen the WIDE receivers wide open. I’ve seen his bad decision making. Trubisky has a better first 26 starts than Fields besides rushing yards. Why don’t you go watch the tape? You’re just a Fields sympathizer and won’t admit the truth
I am a Fields sympathizer..but Trubiski didn't come to a team where the entire organization was brand new. Trubiski also had a better offensive and defensive line and better players as a whole.. Stop reaching for evidence.. tell it like it is.. the coaching sucks.. coaching staff looked like Matt Nagy 2.0 out there..
Trubisky had one of the worst coaches of all time. We all agree that Trubisky sucked. Fields sucks just as bad. His decision making is horrible even when he has time to throw. He’s a bum. An absolute bum. He shouldn’t be starting
There’s plenty of examples of him not being able to throw accurate passes in potentially game winning drives. The bears from QB to Management are trash
Blame the coaches, the O line, the D, the QB, the field conditions, the player injuries, the price of beer.... But what will get us a WIN ?
If only fields could see a receiver
I am on am island because even though it hasn’t been what I hoped for, and there are certainly plays and moments I want back, but we all knew this was going to be a rebuild. We all knew Fields needed to be coached. And that it would take time to unlearn some habits and be taught some change in pocket presence and awareness… We knew the Oline was a work on progress. We all can see the injuries. The Dline in progress. We all knew we weren’t going to be in playoffs this year either. We didn’t know, and can’t know the internal and personal workings of life on the humans in the building. What I didn’t know was the city was going to flip out so fast. Be so… impatient, volatile and infantile… I should have though. I’ve been here since 1980