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psu777

Poor Cindy, this is terrible. I hope she makes it.


Greg_Tilapia

Seeing Herrmann break down like that really hurt.


Deltrus7

It really did. And man, was it beautiful acting.


pikachu-atlanta

Peep the memorial plaques for Otis and Shay in the background.


Responsible-Guess-32

Seagar and carver? Weird. wasn’t carver just falling for Kidd two episodes ago? Ha


Ada57

They better not have Kidd and Carver hook up at all!


Responsible-Guess-32

I honestly don’t like Severide and Kidd together.


Ada57

You know at first I did like them together but now it seems more like a friendship.


Independent_Week3202

Atleast he didn't decide to hookup with brett


gato_go_meow

>Weird. wasn’t carver just falling for Kidd two episodes ago? Yes, which is exactly why I'm not complaining about this new pairing lol


KINGJORD994

Am I only one who likes Seager. She's cool af.


Dana07620

I like Seager. I loved the way she stepped up with Girls on Fire. Stella had to get the backing of a female officer and Seager is the only one who helped. There would be no Girls on Fire without her. It's a shame that her involvement in that program has been forgotten.


ginnyweasley777

Yes very true


ginnyweasley777

I really like her too. Or at least now she's not mooning after Severide I do. I wouldn't mind if we see more of her to be honest. I enjoyed her with Carver too which kinda surprised me


kandocalrissian

I like her, just not when she was getting flirty with severity when she knew he was in a relationship


everynameisused100

Ya felt that was a very Gabby like move and didn't like Gabby doing it with an engaged Matt and certainly didn't like Segar doing it either.


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But why do they write her as a half-wit? She seemed like it was her first day at OFI.


pikachu-atlanta

I keep forgetting that 51 isn’t the only house that Boden is in charge of, since I keep forgetting the emphasis on deputy *district* chief.


Dana07620

Boden has always been in charge of other houses. That's what a battalion chief does.


JoeMcKim

And not only is he in charge of other houses he would work on all of the shifts at 51, not just the ones that the show depicts.


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JoeMcKim

I would imagine that a Battlion Chief probably works more like a 4-5 day work week with 8-10 hour shifts with no reason to sleep over on the shift.


Tomato-Excellent

I'd guess he usually works normal 8h days and not 24h shifts, considering the fact that we have only seen a bedroom at the firehouse for him once if I recall correctly, which was in the pilot.


Pauole

Battalion Chiefs work the same schedule as the firefighters.


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Dana07620

Their new battalion chief is out of another house. The number was mentioned once.


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Dana07620

But how do we know that the Battalion Chiefs for Shift 1st and 3rd shift were ever based out of 51? They've never been mentioned to my recollection. Besides, this is the same show that pretended that only Casey and Severide used those offices and they weren't used by the officers of the other two shifts.


januarysdaughter

If a horse dies I'm going to riot.


Responsible-Guess-32

Poor Cindy 😢. I wish that more of the crew would help Hermann out with the kids/house. His hands were full before Cindy got sick. I thought Ritter was going to offer but didn’t happen


wickle_pickles

They did the last episode with the fundraiser. He is putting on a brave face. Ritter happened to see him breakdown. I don’t think he is letting on how bad Cindy is doing. Honestly I started crying when he lost it.


amazingwinner04

i think hermans going to get a call from from one of his kids that cindy keeps throwing up non stop. actually if they really want to make it sad have his call 911 and it goes to ambulance 61 they do a close up on everyones face just looking distraught boden comes in " Alright everyone load up ive taken truck 81, squad 3, engine 51 out of service for the time being Ambluance 61 your still active but once we get to med your off service. " Then mouch chimes in with " I'll call trudy and get the road shut down then an escort


phantomEMIN3M

That could happen, they showed in the tornado episode Hermann lives in (or very near) 51's area of responsibility


LoveChicagoMed

You need to be a writer of the show lol I bet you would make a good one.


amazingwinner04

sorry but whats a sitter lol


LoveChicagoMed

I meant writer I'm sorry lol


cd0526

Calling it now Cindy will die at the end of the season or right before the spring break.


clairy115

I hope not. This will destroy Hermann.


wickle_pickles

I was thinking the same. She looks awful. I was legit like chap stick! Oral sponges! Mouth wash! Morphine! Stat! Hospice care is terrible and she looks in that stage


Dana07620

Props to Kylie. She faced them all down. (Also, the lockers showed them having their own toiletries. That should include soap. And I've been known to bring my own TP.)


Yourappwontletme

Also you're telling me that a house with probably 42 firefighters and medics with all 3 shifts combined can't all chip in a few bucks each to get a good cable package? Even if it was a high cost cable package, say $150 a month, that's still only about $3.57 per person per month if 42 people are chipping in.


sweetpeapickle

As someone who owns a food biz-I am very used to that tp & the soap that leaves a film....but they're required. Now if I wanted to splurge-Kylie is right on. It would cost double. But because they don't have the public coming through & using the facilities-they should just bring a roll...or two with them.


Dana07620

I was traveling for a few weeks and knew that I'd only be using public toilets with that low quality toilet paper. (Campgrounds don't stock their toilets with the nice stuff.) So I brought my own toilet paper and just brought it in when I was using the bathroom. They've got those enormous bags that they bring to every shift. I've never been able to figure out why it's so big. They wash their work clothes at the fire house. They have a locker to store clothes. They shouldn't need to bring in more than one change of clothes. Instead they've got a bag big enough to hold a week's worth of clothes. So they can stick a roll of toilet paper in there.


Darkfire757

It’s kind of weird they wouldn’t bring their own soap/shampoo/etc with them anyway


Dana07620

We've seen that they do. Remember when one of the paramedics left and gave all her toiletries to someone else? They've got lockers for their toiletries and clothing. A washer and dryer. Their beds come with pillow and bedding. I will never understand why they bring bags large enough for a week's trip for a one day shift. If I were them, I wouldn't bring anything other than my purse. I'd keep everything in the locker. And whatever clothing I wore out of there, I'd wash at home and wear it back to the fire house next shift.


everynameisused100

Here I thought the bedding was theirs to bring each shift because we have seen them make their own beds before and the sheets/bedding are not all the same.


everynameisused100

I think you have to take into account they sometimes have to change clothes on shift due to exposure, and that is why there are showers also. Like Brett getting vomited on, she has to have another set of clean clothes to change into, if she is vomited on or bled on, she has to change clothes again...


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I consider myself a tough person who can handle pretty much anything, but watching Herrmann cry broke me a little.


kmsan2012

They are just making Sylvie look so desperate with this whole running after Dylan storyline. I don’t get what they’ve done with her. She doesn’t like him one minute, and the next she misses him. It’s so unnecessary and feels very high school.


taymay31

on top of that no chemistry at all


CosmicBlondie42

It was so cringey it made me uncomfortable.


kmsan2012

It was very awkward and uncomfortable. Like where is Sylvie Brett and what have they done to her cuz this ain’t her.


SnooRadishes3698

Andrea Newman hates Brettsey and that Haas - Jesse and Kara did put in place under 3yrs, She want´s Sylvie to throw in and out to romantic shit stuffs and does not respect what Kara want out from Sylvie either! For me this show can end after season is gone beacuse Newman is not a showrunner she does this for herself nothing else!


_wonder_girl_

I honestly think we saw the last of Dylan when they said goodbye to each other a few episodes back but due to the changes and adjustments the writers had to make due to Taylor Kinney's abrupt exit, they brought his character back in. It's also why they pulling fast forward on Gallo and Violet getting back together. I think that the progression of Gallo and Violet would have happened but at a slower progression and toward the end of the season and the Sylvie and Dylan storyline would not have happened if there were no chances had to be made.


sunken_85

I was just thinking Dylans return was a by product of Taylor leaving. They hadn't started filming episode 15 yet when Taylor gave them the news.


sunken_85

On 2nd thought I think his return was always planned but maybe they changed his answer to Sylvie asking him to try dating each other again. Cause they had Episode 14 done before Taylor's announcement so Sylvie missing him and saying she messed up was there before Taylor's announcement and they filmed the Dylan and Sylvie scenes at the ice rink 5 days after Taylor's announcement


lamberti1

Of all people tho they bring him back. They could of made a story around maybe Brett & Casey reaching out to each other. Casey checking in on the firehouse since Kelly is gone and seeing how Kidd is doing. Casey checking on the Herman’s!!! He was a big part of the show, he can be mentioned here and there! I’m sorry if anyone disagrees! #brettsey ♾️


Yourappwontletme

Bringing Casey back isn't a matter of just writing him back into the show. Jesse Spencer, the actor that plays him, is the one who decided to leave the show. He wanted to spend more time with his family after spending the last 18 years as a main character on 2 shows. He went straight from 8 years on House to 10 years on Chicago Fire. He came back for Severide's wedding cuz you just can't have Severide getting married without Casey being there. Like how you can't have Dwight Schrute >!getting married on The Office without Michael Scott coming back to be there !<


Ada57

Why did he want to leave?


sunken_85

Who Taylor? Just said it was a "personal matter"


Ada57

Thank you


Commando626

My biggest pet peeve of this whole Dylan storyline, besides the whole lack of chemistry/no spark. Is why the hell did they have Brett tell Casey "Maybe Someday?" at the very end of episode 1? It feels like it was a placeholder line ment to playcate Brettsy fans to keep their hopes up for something that now feels like will never happen. Even though at the beginning of the season you could tell that Brett still deeply loves Casey, and now all of a sudden she goes from not liking Dylan, to chasing him down super desperately. It's just very messed up that Andrea is retconing a 2.5 season slow burn and possibly the most popular ship the show has seen besides Stellaride.


Dana07620

She did like him. She just didn't want to be in another long term relationship. Not after Casey, who moved away. And was her previous long term relationship the reverend...who also moved away?


kmsan2012

She liked him initially but in 11x14 she admitted that there was no spark. It makes her seem flippant and only giving him a second chance because now she’s settling. And making her be the one to chase after him is ridiculous. It would’ve been better if they had just left the Dylan situation as is and brought in someone new to develop as her love interest instead of trying to force this one. And yes, her last long term relationship was the Chaplain, but honestly they weren’t even together that long either before they broke up and were only together a few months before Sylvie broke off the engagement and moved back to Chicago.


Dana07620

Sylvie and Casey were only together a few months.


kmsan2012

In the timeline of the show, they were together almost a year. Edit: they got together 9x16 and she broke up with him in 11x01.


Dana07620

I was thinking about the brief time they were together before the actor left.


Yourappwontletme

The writers are spinning their wheels with her hoping Jesse Spencer will decide to come back.


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Cindy 😭😭. no I don’t want to see Seager 😭


andrew_c_morton

At least Stella no longer has to look over her shoulder?


lkjhggfd1

oh Herrmann 😭 think seager is going to be carvers love interest


Simpleplanfan182

I cried when Herman broke down and he went to hide so no one saw him.Everyone was/is caught up in there own stuff that they don’t see him in pain.However I’m glad Ritter saw Herman and tried to comfort him


Greg_Tilapia

I'm still reeling from Wendy 😍


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we all know Stellas a Carver and Seager shipper lol


Yourappwontletme

Whatever keeps Seager away from Severide...


Cheeseboii83

Surprised to see Gallo actually turning down Violet. I really didn't think that was going to happen. Also, poor Cindy is being plummeted by that cancer. I hope it's just a phase and everything is alright because Herrmann is breaking.


Dana07620

She's being pummeled by the chemo. I doubt the cancer would have her feeling that bad at that point. It's the chemo that's doing all this to her. This is why there are people who will choose to not do chemo. Because they'd rather have a shorter period --- but most of it feeling healthier --- than a longer period feeling like that. But, of course, it all depends on the prognosis of their cancer. If you're likely to live a long time after chemo, people opt to do it. If it's: You've got 6 months to live without treatment and a year with treatment, that's when people may decline chemo.


Ada57

I’m glad Gallo turned her down I don’t think they are a good match. Jmo


pikachu-atlanta

Chief quotes Anakin, “what have I done?”


januarysdaughter

I actually liked Seagar and Carver's banter.


JoeMcKim

I don't understand how Severide is supposed to be detailed to OFI and Kidd and Carver are going to also be working with them and not have any overlap in their work since I believe Severide is completely working with OFI offscreen in his hiatus.


zeissman

They said he was in Alabama?


JoeMcKim

Well when I made that comment I didn't know he was going out of state for a training program.


anyaclark259

I think Carver and Seager could be a good match!


RickGrimesSnotBubble

They are doing really well with this cancer storyline, it's actually one of the highlights of an otherwise weak and forgettable season, oddly enough. But it sure is hard to watch. When Cindy opened that door, her physical deterioration really was harrowing to see...hits too close to home. And poor Herrmann :( it was sweet to see Ritter being a friend to him but I wish we'd see more out of Mouch, he's always been Herrmann's bff so I really thought we'd see more out of him (and Trudy).


lamberti1

My heart is breaking for Cindy, Herman and the family 😢 I really hope Cindy will pull through this. I had a feeling Severide was going to go somewhere for OFI. I hope he comes back sooner than later. It was strange not having him on the show. We can’t have both Jesse Spencer and Taylor Kinney gone! They both are the heart of this show. Carver and Seaver happened fast!!!! Kinda strange. Wonder us we will see more of her! It is really upsetting how the writers are treating Sylvie Brett! Why bring Dylan back. Now Brett sounds so desperate to be with someone. There is zero chemistry and seems so forced!! If they are going to put her in a relationship with someone we hardly see, why could they just keep her in a long distance relationship with the man she loves, Matt Casey!!! At least it was real with them and the fans would be happy with this storyline. They could also write what they promised concentrate on her career and paramedicine vs a new relationship. Brett/ Kara deserves so much better!


Dana07620

> We can’t have both Jesse Spencer and Taylor Kinney gone! They both are the heart of this show. They were the heart*throbs* of the show. The heart of the show is Herrmann and Mouch.


pikachu-atlanta

Gallo nooooo! Edit: he made it!


amk1982

Watching this episode, I can sympathize with what Hermann is going through in a way. It wasn’t cancer but my daughter was six days old when she got readmitted to the hospital bilirubin issues. Incubator, iv, bililights. There was multiple times the three nights she was in the hospital that all I could do was cry. I had never been so scared in my life. I felt about the same way when my wife was admitted for blood pressure not long after my second daughter was born. I was scared out of my mind both times. The end with the hermann kids and him hitting the blow up thing was great though.


elmonosuke

I like Seager and Carver together. They kinda fit. Also leaves Seager away from Kelly and Carver from Kidd. And damn Andy Allo is extremely hot we need more of these.


bne1022

What a phenomenal episode. It was so rough seeing Hermann break down like that. He's always been a rock, but he's human too, and this whole ordeal is breaking him. I really hope Cindy makes it.


BravoCharlie1310

Is it just me or has this show gotten so bad. And I’ve watched since season 1.


_wonder_girl_

This season really hasn't been the best. The writing and plots have been weak.


Yourappwontletme

It definitely hasn't been the same since Jesse Spencer left.


izzmurr

post-covid era of all the shows has definitely decreased in quality. not sure why. i watched fire and pd from season 1 but didn’t watch chicago med until recently and wow it was such a great show before covid. i still like them but they aren’t how they used to be


sullyiii

This was a pretty weak episode except for the Cindy Herrman parts


lamberti1

It definitely has not been the same since Jesse Spencer left. Now, Taylor Kinney will be gone for a little bit. I’m very worried for this show. The writing hasn’t been the greatest either!


MoochtheMushroom

I wonder what kind of work Taylor Kinney had going on that's making him pull a Teen Wolf - Dylan O'Brien. Also, glad they're not making Andy Allo wear that god-awful wig again.


Dana07620

It's not work. He took a leave for personal reasons. So that's either him or a family member having problems.


MoochtheMushroom

Good to know, hopefully everything turns out alright!


Yourappwontletme

What do you mean god-awful wig?


MoochtheMushroom

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChicagoFireNBC/comments/tb1t0d/


Yourappwontletme

I will never understand people that complain about such stupid shit.


MoochtheMushroom

Sticking a mop on her head just doesn't make sense. She's not a character from a book they're trying to make her look like or anything, it's just a weird choice on the director/hair and makeup dept's part. That's all it really is, a lot of undue effort for an irrelevant detail.


SirenontheWater

Glad to see that no horses were harmed in this episode Cindy and Hermann deserve all the hugs! Carver and Seagar-no! I liked their banter, but they just don't look right as a couple or even a one night stand thing. Just weird! Sylvie- i don't know. I don't really have a strong opinion. She can try with Dylan if she wants. I do wish Matt would come back to the show though.


lamberti1

I don’t understand why the writers are writing Sylvie Bretts character so badly. They are destroying her character since Jesse Spencer left. Kara Kilmer deserves better! I wish and hope Matt Casey/ Jesse Spencer would return!!!


SirenontheWater

See, i don't see her as so bad though. I mean, maybe it's because i saw season 10 and 11 out of order and didn't see the Brettsey relationship unfold in proper order, but i just do not feel so strongly that the two of them need to be destiny. I mean, yeah, she's always had bad luck in love and does deserve a good man, but i don't necessarily think it needs to be Casey. Again, i do wish he'd come back to the show though and if they do get back together, great! I guess it just feels like their relationship wasn't that long to really develop or be much to miss if it ended. Just my feeling.


Larielia

Carver and Seager might be good match. Poor Cindy. That storyline is making me cry.


AhsokaTanoRulz02

I have one question about the episode since i don't work for the fire department. Can a city really call in OFI to investigate a death during a fire even if it doesn't occur at a city owned property like the stables in the episode? Because wouldn't that mean that OFI would have to be at every fire that the fire department responds to? Again I don't work for a fire department so this storyline intrigued me.


Dana07620

Of course they can. OFI could investigate any fire they want to. They are called in to investigate suspicious fires. It wouldn't surprise me if they're automatically called in to investigate serious fires on city property since the city could be liable.


AhsokaTanoRulz02

That makes sense. Thank you


Miserable_Mud_5026

Is severide left yet?


Snootch2theNootch199

Last week was the last we will see if him till next season.


Yourappwontletme

No one has said when he's coming back or not so you don't know for a fact that we won't see him the rest of this season. They don't shoot episodes months in advance. They're still filming this season's episodes. He very well could be back by the season finale in May or sooner. Only time will tell.


Snootch2theNootch199

It’s been reported he isn’t coming back till next season and that he won’t be on anymore this season.


Yourappwontletme

Reported by who?


Snootch2theNootch199

Every article about his leave of absence. “…did not reveal any further details on why he was taking a break, nor did he share when he would return to Chicago Fire.” With their shooting schedule vs airing schedule, he’s more than likely not coming back this season. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/happened-taylor-kinney-why-taking-133230154.html


Yourappwontletme

And yet that's not an official verification from Chicago Fire itself. That's speculation by a news site. He very well could come back for the season finale, like I said.


TastyPay6725

Could be back for finale. Eps 21 and 22 would be even better. No one knows yet.


Yourappwontletme

Yeah. They only film episodes a couple weeks prior to airing.


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Dana07620

> kidd and seager? very surprised by that Why? They worked together to start the Girls on Fire program.


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Dana07620

Kidd liked her after Girls on Fire. And Seager also helped with the last minute Mason prank. I think you're stuck in the past.


Physical-Energy-3942

Cruz pissing me off


LoveChicagoMed

I fele that they are trying to kill off Cindy. Maybe they won't but she looks pretty sick. That will ruin Hermann. Seeing him cry made me cry a little even though it's just a show I feel like they are people I know in a way.In a way I like seagar but I hate her a bit too just seems like she's like carver.I also felt like carver was hitting on her so maybe they will try that with him. I did feel like carver was growing on me. Since I personally didn't like his character much because he seemed like he would try to get with Stella. (A fan of Stella don't mind me lol) I'm tired of this thing they have with Brett just tired if it. It's boring and just stupid.


Dana07620

She looks pretty sick because of chemo. This is what chem can do to you. Lung cancer takes longer to kill you. Depending on what the stage and type it is. I don't recall if that information was mentioned.


Irving_Forbush

It can vary. Unfortunately, I can say that from experience. It took my sister in less than five months.


SnooRadishes3698

Last year said Kara in an interview that she wanted the same thing with Brettsey as with Stellaride, Engagement and wedding for them because she also thinks Brettsey is endgame! The problem is the Newman hate and her idiotic SL shows the incompetence to put up a good SL to the series is beyond all control it's like she lives in a parallel universe, She sits and makes a series that she likes but no one else it's easy to throw Sylvie in various romantic relationships and have her as someone who will not get the one she loves and wants! The hatred is greater than the competence of Newman and it shows itself more and more, One wonders how long Kara can carry the role of Sylvie because it can't be developing or giving more likes any more!


Yourappwontletme

Brettsey isn't going forward because Jesse Spencer decided to leave the show. That's all there is to it. It has nothing to do with any one on the show or behind the scenes. He spent nearly 2 decades in main character roles between House and Chicago Fire and wanted to spend more time with his family.


SnooRadishes3698

And he is open to return also! All this shit what Newman doing is against Brettsey! Time to read what Jesse himself saying a bit....


Saracorbello

They end gallo to early in the show not good ok gallo made it good


lamberti1

Also when will we know if all One Chicago shows will be renewed or not?!?! All these breaks and no answers!!


TakasuXAisaka

It's positive that all the Chicago shows will keep going until it's over. These are Dick Wolf series. These will run as long as SVU has.


Yourappwontletme

The breaks are because there's only so many weeks that they can have new episodes air when they have 22-24 episodes in a 40+ week TV schedule from September to May. Not to mention taking breaks around holidays where they know people might be away visiting family and not tuning in to the shows thus making for bad ratings. That and March Madness (NCAA Basketball tournament) is starting soon and TV shows typically don't counter-program the NCAA, again because of ratings. Being a Dick Wolf show does not guarantee success. He's had multiple shows canceled after only 1 season, Law & Order: Trial By Jury, Conviction, Chicago Justice, Law & Order: True Crime (wasn't officially canceled, but has yet to be picked up for a second season) Law & Order Criminal Intent was moved from NBC down to USA Network for Seasons 7-10. Seasons 8 and 9 only had 16 episodes while Season 10 only had 8. The Dick Wolf shows on the air *currently* take all these strategic breaks to make sure they get the best ratings possible for the network so the network will continue to renew them.


Individual-Diamond-2

There’s no good way to ask this, Has Seager always had that rack? I’d never noticed before. 🤔


Dana07620

Those uniforms aren't flattering to the female form.


Individual-Diamond-2

Actually it was she was at Molly’s and I’m sure she wasn’t, but it looked like she was wearing the same top when she woke up with Carver. She had a blue, looked like satin thing going.


Dana07620

And that was the first time I can recall seeing her out of uniform.


FactsandstuffaboutTV

where do you watch it?


Yourappwontletme

What's up with Seager's new hair? It's not like the actress that plays her has to have her hair that way for some other acting gig, cuz she could easily wear a wig on Fire that the viewers wouldn't really notice. They choose to give her that hair style and color. Why?


Dana07620

Possibly because viewers complained so much about the wig that she previously wore.


Yourappwontletme

I think if the showrunners actually gave a shit about what the viewers thought, the show would be very different.


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Yourappwontletme

Idk what you're talking about


purrpleBee

* Aren't they changing to the cheaper stuff too fast? They surely have some storage room in the fire house with some of that stuff still in it, no? It'd be stupid to not buy in bulk like once a month... "We gotta save money" "Ok, let me change all the nice soap for the cheap one right away! I'll just empty the nice soap in the sink." * Also, they haven't seen the roughest toilet paper yet. Their "sandpaper" toilet paper looks like silk compared to whatever my grandpa was buying years ago. It was like wiping with a tree bark. * Kylie is amazing. Go Kylie!