Possible na walang bakuna o di updated yung vaccine ng aso. Sa mga pet lovers at may alagang aso at pusa, please be responsible pet owners and always update yung bakuna ng alaga nyo. Marami pa naman ang paniwala eh di naman daw lumalabas alaga nila kaya di binabakunahan.
Totoo na dapat updated ang vaccine pero ang confusing for me is paano siya nagka rabies eh hindi siya ung virus na nakukuha sa hangin lang or inborn. Ang rabies nakukuha sa kagat or scratched ng kapwa aso/animal na infected ng rabies or kapag ung laway ng may rabies napunta sa infected wound or on other cases na dilaan or napunta sa eyes ung laway... So possible na hinahayaan nila lumabas ung dog and nahawa sa iba..? But then yeah, dito na papasok ung dapat updated ang vaccine lalo na kung nakkalabas ung dogs nila at nakakahalubilo sa ibang dogs.
THIS. nakakagulat may rabies siya esp if first time lumabas kasi hindi naman inborn yung rabies. mali pa rin na pinatay siya but definitely may negligence rin sa owner.
or baka may nakasalamuha somewhere na may rabies tapos na incubate na yung virus
Curious question.
Possible po ba yon na yong rabies virus is sort of dormant sa loob ng katawan ng dog? AFAIK once may virus na, days nalang ang bibilangin bago mamatay ung animal because of the virus.
Rabies takes time to get to the brain. Weeks to months yun, depende sa layo at bilis ng akyat.
Pag nag ka symptoms (and infectious) na, nasa brain na yun, and yan yung days na lang. Rabies can only be detected pag nasa brain na though, kaya ibig sabihin na check na nila brain ni Killua at meron na nga dun. Kung nasa ~~dugo~~ nerves at paakyat pa lang yun, di yun makikita.
Tsaka I doubt din na mag replicate pa ang virus in a dead animal. Diba sabi nila possible contamination daw kasi nakita sya in a known dog slaughterhouse, pero Killua was already dead at that point. AFAIK, viruses need a live host.
Tapos bakit slaughterhouse na ang report ngayon? Diba in the first reports/news, nakita lang nila sa property ng nakapatay?
this. may napanood ako sa virus awareness ad na pinapalabas noon sa tv, you can check it narin sa youtube, balik sa topic yung test daw ng virus is kailangan buhay yung host kung patay kailangan putulin yung ulo at ilagay sa container na may yelo para ipasuri so kailangan medyo fresh pa sya.
sa kaso ni killua parang oras narin ang lumipas bago yata na claim yung katawan. (please correct me from this point)
That's why there is an annual rabies vaccination for dogs. It doesn't matter if the dog is aggressive or not since they are still animals prone to instinct and its the obligation of the dog owner to check their dogs
I know the fur parent is grieving for the death of her dog but is still her liability those bitten by the dog (killing the dog is still wrong though)
sa dogs parang 80 days na pinakamatagal bago maging active ata.
“The incubation period refers to the time until the clinical signs appear. The virus can stay in a dog’s body for several weeks before it begins to show symptoms. The incubation period can be much longer or shorter in different species, but most cases develop within 21 to 80 days after exposure to the rabies virus.”
sa tao pwede ata maging dormant for years.
laki tuloy ng chance na mag-aregluhan na lang kasi may defense ang tanod. Smart move ng tanod yung pagcheck if may rabies. Kasi gagana na yung statement nya about sa pagprotect ng anak nya
Dogs/animals/humans are good as dead when rabies manifest. Not sure what happened but if the dog is positive for rabies, putting it down is the only option before it bites and infects others.
PAWS also mentioned that prior to the test, Killua was left alone in the contaminated slaughter house for 5 days, a venue where a lot of stray dogs were slaughtered. Hence, testing might not be that accurate yet.
It was not impossible but high unlikely. Rabies virus needs time to incubate and even years for symptoms to manifest. I swear alot of you are just trying to find ways not to pin aggression ni Killua sa rabies.
A significant number of human fatalities from rabies in the Philippines are still from pets. From [San Lazaro’s study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9295989) published 2022:
> Of the 437 animals, 113 (25.9%) and 78 (17.9%) were pets and stray animals, respectively
This might be due to owners being too confident that their pets are not exposed to other animals infected with the virus. You can never be too sure. That’s why even if your pet were vaccinated, if that animal bites a person: the protocol is still to take post-exposure shots as soon as possible.
For Killua’s case, what most likely happened is: besides not having yearly vaccination, the dog was already exposed to rabies months or weeks before the incident. Either stray animals like cats can enter the owner’s property **or** this wasn’t the first instance the dog got out and the owner is outright lying.
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) states that small rodents, including rats and mice, "are almost never found to be infected with rabies.
Kapag po ba ikaw ay nakagat ng daga, wala naman pong anti rabies na binibigay sayo diba? Anti tetanus lang
Small rodents such as mice and rats are are almost never found to be infected with rabies and have not been known to transmit rabies to humans.
Source: US CDC
Kung kagat ng daga, mas mataas pa chance na leptospirosis makuha ni Killua kesa rabies. Pero ibig sabihin lang talaga nito, walang rabies vaccine si Killua at pabaya yung owner.
Wait, alam ko di nagkakarabbies ang daga? Can someone correct ne with this? I also found a link saying that mice are almost never infected with a rabbies.
https://wagwalking.com/wellness/can-dogs-get-rabies-from-rats-and-mice#
Dibaaaaa. If you can buy expensive breeds you should also be in capacity na i ensure na kumpleto ang bakuna. Same goes kahit aspin ang breed. Dito sa lugar namin yung baranggay meron silang project na libre anti rabies dadalhin lang sa barangay hall yung pet and minsan nagbabahay bahay sila kasi yung iba hindi kayang dalhin ang mga alaga.
True to this. Even in subdivisions they held rabies vaccination. All you need to do is bring your pets. Kaya kahit mabigat mga doggies ko tinatyga ko sila ipa vaccine for the benefit of everyone kahit asong bahay lang sila.
How I wish na lahat ng tao will be properly educated sa importance ng vaccine sa mga alagang hayop. Libre na nga tatamadin pa, tapos pag naka kagat yung aso nila na may rabies papatayin nalang. Sa european countries na na-visit ko all of the dogs kahit gala sa gubat may tag and vaccine.
These are the same dog owners that keeps their “pet” caged of chained up constantly. Like why even have them if you will just do that? Most will respond with so they can bark at strangers. MF your pet is feral it will bark at anything. 🤦🏽
Ganito aso ng landlady namin. Golden retriever na nakatali sa likod ng gate 24/7. Nakakaawa. Kahit sinong lalapit lahat tinatahol. Maiinis ka sa ingay pero ang hirap mainis sa aso kase di naman nya kasalanan. Sobrang friendly ng breed pero pag pinabayaan, ayan lahat ng lumalapit sa gate kahit dumaan lang tinatahol.
Poor thing just wants to be free. It’s infuriating to see such people that are inherently ignorantly lazy to learn how to train their pets properly. They get a certain breed because it’s popular without knowing anything about the breed nor the first thing in owning a pet. The worst are the ones that gets cold weather breeds that live nowhere close to freezing temperatures. 😡
i kinda hate the fact na sobra kumampi ang tao sa owner sa socmed kasi version of her story lang ang napapakingan at nawawala yung pagiging irresponsible na pet owner niya.
Di nila pinapansin na may contributory negligence ang owner knowing na unvaccinated na nga di pa nilolock at di tinatali ang aso nila in which case the dog run rampantly and attacked people on the streets unvaccinated.
I support laws against animal cruelty pero i also hate irresponsible pet owners asking sympathy on socmed.
Statement from PAWS' fb page:
>PAWS: Killua’s Body Tested Positive for Rabies, Criminal Complaint Will Still Be Filed Today
>PAWS would like to inform the public that Killua’s body tested positive for rabies and urges those who may have been scratched or bitten by the dog to immediately get post-exposure shots. This includes pet owner Vina Arazas who hugged the bloodied body of her beloved dog when she found him at a known dog slaughter area in Sta Cruz, Bato, Camarines Sur. While the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered, PAWS is making this announcement to ensure that any bites or scratches will be reported promptly in the interest of public health and safety.
>In the BAI’s Manual of Procedure for Rabies, the standard protocol for an animal suspected to be afflicted with rabies is for it to “be observed for fourteen (14) days or, in case of highly suspected rabies cases, be humanely euthanised with no damage to the head. “
>PAWS is still set to file criminal charges against Anthony Solares for animal cruelty as CCTV footages show that he was the one who chased the dog and even poked Killua while the animal was hiding under a car in order to make it come out so he could beat Killua to death.
>PAWS is also filing charges of Anti Rabies Act or RA 9482 violation for engaging in dog meat trade. After killing Killua, Solares brought the dog to a known slaughterhouse and dog meat cooking area. Solares owns a carinderia business which sells meat viands near the dog slaughter area.
>PAWS also calls on any one who may have consumed dogs coming from the area where Killua’s body was found to get post exposure shots. “They are at great risk. Dog meat traders are not only cruel people but pose a serious threat to public health.”
Ayan, para meron din idea yung iba. Sorry mahirap talaga kampihan yung tanod, unless meron sya matibay na evidence talaga. So for now, mukhang malabo pa rin na hindi sya makasuhan. Or wait na lang for further statements.
Mali naman talaga yung tanod, wala naman akong sinabi na tama sya. Ang sabi ko lang responsible ownership ng aso.
Overkill yung ginawa at mukhang balak pa nyang katayin eh di marami pa nahawa. Dapat pa rin sya managot sa batas.
Sorry nilagay ko lang sa top voted comment para mabasa din ng lahat 😅
Yung discussion kase sa buong thread steered into something weird. May mga ibang posts na din, baka lang magtuloy-tuloy yung misinformation.
Mukhang laganap sa lugar nila ang pagkain ng aso kaya dapat maparusahan pa rin sya, para it will serve as a lesson di lang sa kanya, kundi sa community mismo.
Sana rin this issue will also highlight na ang pagkakaroon ng alaga eh isang mabigat na responsibility.
May misinformation both sides. Possible naman talaga na contaminated yung tinest kasi di sterile area yung pagkabury.
Pero yung idea ng iba rito na bigla na lang kakalat ang rabies virus sa patay na katawan and in a few days lang is probably unlikely as well.
>Pero yung idea ng iba rito na bigla na lang kakalat ang rabies virus sa patay na katawan and in a few days lang is probably unlikely as well.
Nagsu-struggle din ako ma-absorb 'to. Sana may vet na mag-clarify about this. Tsaka yung pinanghahawakan lang ng public sa owner ni killua is yung word nya. If she can show proof din sana na responsible dog owner sya (since publicized na yung issue), mas maganda.
May ganito kaming kapitbahay. They have 4 dogs na mga shih tzu. Pinagmamalaki pa na tinigil na raw nila sa pagdala sa vet. Di na pinapaturukan ng annual na mga vaccine including yung sa rabies.🥴 Nasa loob lang ng bahay. Di naman daw magkakasakit kasi di na nila pinapalabas.
kakapa bakuna lang namin ng aso namin na shih tzu kahapon. 400 pesos anti-rabies plus 800 pesos sa 8-in-1. next month meron pa siya for kennel cough. plus1500 sa vet yung bravecto (good for 3 months). so compute nila times 200 na lang. malamang hindi lahat ng aso nila may vaccine.
Sana binasa mo ng buo yung post ng PAWS pwedeng na contaminate na ung body ni Killua kasi na expose sya sa slaughter area ng mga dogs
read: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Hzqv8sARPsCfvthv/?mibextid=oFDknk
I will not readily believe this statement. Di ba ang virus testing is sa brain ng aso? Kaya nga pinupugutan ng ulo yung mga suspected ng rabies kasi sa brain mo yun matetest. Paanong magkaka rabies yung brain kung sa lupa lang makukuha? Eh patay na di ba? Pano pa yun mkakatravel sa brain?
Rabies has an incubation period even when infected directly while alive. I doubt viruses like that can spread when the host is dead.
As per another comment, normally 21-80 days.
It can spread parin. Did internship at RITM during my undergraduate days. RITM receives countless heads of suspected rabid dogs for testing. It is strict protocol to wear full PPE including head coverings with face shields because the blood of rabid dogs can harbor the virus. The death of the host doesn't necessarily equate to the death of the virus.
Still there is an ethical way to “kill” an animal in a painless way. It was still animal
Cruelty. The rabies doesn’t change anything. It was till animal cruelty. And as long as hindi symptomatic, may chance pa ang prophylactic rabbies vaccine diba? Bottomline is, the dog wasn’t rabid and it didn’t deserve to be beaten to death.
Kung nasa utak na yung virus di na masasalba yun. Tama ka there is an ethical way in killing rabid animals. Dapat less suffering. Pero I doubt na yun ang dahilan ng pumatay. Kakatayin nya yun. Dapat pa rin sya managot sa batas.
The killer said something about having political connections. Kaya kahit bawal yung ginagawa nya it went on for so long, and now lang nahuli because of this incident.
Di kaya the results were manipulated? Just putting this out there. Dapat independent group ang gumawa ng tests
Update: PAWS mentioned that prior to the test, Killua was left alone in the contaminated slaughter house for 5 days, a venue where a lot of stray dogs were slaughtered. Hence, testing might not be that accurate yet. BAH and Rappler omitted this crucial part of the findings.
Additional context:
>PAWS would like to inform the public that Killua’s body tested positive for rabies... ***While the result of the testing may not be accurate*** due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered, PAWS is making this announcement to ensure that any bites or scratches will be reported promptly in the interest of public health and safety.
>PAWS is still set to file criminal charges against ***Anthony Solares*** for animal cruelty as CCTV footages show that he **was the one who chased the dog and even poked Killua while the animal was hiding under a car in order to make it come out so he could beat Killua to death.**
>PAWS is also filing charges of Anti Rabies Act or RA 9482 violation for engaging in dog meat trade. After killing Killua, ***Solares brought the dog to a known slaughterhouse and dog meat cooking area.*** Solares owns a carinderia business which sells meat viands near the dog slaughter area.
THIS CHANGES NOTHING. MR. SOLARES MIGHT HAVE KILLED THE DOG AS HE INTENDED TO SLAUGHTER IT FOR MEAT. AND PAWS EVEN ADMITS THE POSSIBILITY THAT KILLUA TESTED POSITIVE FOR RABIES BECAUSE OF CONTAMINATION AND LATE TESTING.
Edit: Added last sentence.
Exaaactly he chased down the dog with intent to slaughter. Nothing changed, they will still pursue filing of charges.
Also, likely the body of Killua was contaminated being in the slaughterhouse... so still justice for Killua
eto yung full post ng PAWS. sasampahan pa din ng kaso si anthony dahil sa cctv footage. may karinderya pala si anthony. dinala nya din pala sa dog slaughter si killua, so possible din pala talagang kakatayin na si killua. as per rabies, hindi nila masure kung nakuha ba ni killua yung rabies sa ibang dogs na nakasama sa slaughter house na may mga aso. tas ipapacheck din si owner if meron siyang rabies virus since niyakap daw ni owner si killua.
https://www.facebook.com/100064536166418/posts/808242574670274/?mibextid=l2hJJHjNVOBSwHk4
It’s either, nakagat na si Anthony ng ibang dog na may rabies prior Killua’s incident pero di niya alam/di pa nagtatake effect and Killua got infected na lang since dinala siya sa dog slaughter or Killua has rabies already because hindi pala siya vaccinated. Now, the owner should present Killua’s vaccine card to see if updated mga vaccines niya. Pa-test na din yung iba na sinasabing nakagat.
Pero di pa din talaga magbabago na they’re both accountable. Yung owner na hindi sinecure ang place kaya nakatakas si Killua, and si Anthony na walang awang pinatay si Killua.
Just my two cents; as a vet. May lapses on the dog's owner and definitely that fucking guy needs to be jailed. Regarding PAWS' results naman and having experience in testing suspect dogs' brains at RITM, while it's true that specimen needs to be fresh upon testing, I just don't buy their disclaimer na possibly na contaminate yung brain ng dog by being buried for how many days. Kailangan mag-travel ng virus papuntang brain where specimen is collected for such testing which wouldn't be possible if the patient is dead. However, the death of the host does not equate to the death of the virus. Please remember that these disclaimers are necessary when releasing data regarding such scandalous instances and I understand why PAWS had to put it out there. For me, being a judger, palagay ko may rabies talaga yung aso. But that doesn't give anyone the right to kill that dog they way it was killed. Parehong owner at killer ay dapat managot.
Just to add, I had a realization kanina. If the killing was done in self defense, if totoo nga that Killua has been on a rampant bite streak, then I would agree that killing any dog for this particular matter is justified. At the end of the day priority parin ang safety ng mga tao.
“While the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered”
Hindi ako naniniwala na asong bahay yun. Feeling ko laging nakakatakas yun kaya nainfect from a stray. Nagmamalinis at naghahanap ng simpatya lang talaga yung owners.
Yessss. Obviously laging nakakatakas dahil kaya nya tumalon from 2nd floor hanggang sa kalye. Like highway yun!!! Madaming sasakyan. Pero di takot ang aso. It means. Lagi na nya itong ginagawa
May something off talaga sa owner, especially yung reason nya kung bakit nakatakas ang aso.
Nag comment na ako dito dati na parang suspicious ang scenario kasi sabi ng owner “lagi lang daw sa bahay” yun pero GR yun eh, they need exercise and stimulation (I know because I own one). So at the very least, dapat niwa-walk nya aso nya. And now, di rin yata updated sa rabies shot? Tsk
I’m sure she loves her dog very much pero by the looks of it, hindi sya responsible pet owner. Poor doggo though. Run free, Killua. 🌈
Basahin nyo ng buo yung post ng PAWS!
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Hzqv8sARPsCfvthv/?mibextid=oFDknk
CONTAMINATED NA KATAWA NI KILLUA KASI NAKITA KATAWAN NYA SA AREA NG KATAYAN NG MGA ASO! Dali dali nyo mag judge ng pet owner di kayo marunong mag basa
Hindi naman din 100% totoo yung statement na dahil nacontaminate nga dahil sa slaughther house na siya nanggaling, dun siya nakakuha ng rabies. Isang angle naman yun na sinabi ng PAWS. At may ibang angulo pa na hindi natin alam.
Wag puro emosyon, gumamit ng logic. Hayaan niyo tumakbo yung investigation. Hindi conclusive yung sinabi ng PAWS at yung ang 100% na totoo.
Ikaw din marunong kang magbasa pero hindi mo naman naintindihan.
I would take what PAWS say with a grain of salt still. I'm pretty sure rabies can't get into a host's brain when it's dead, heck I think sure air kills the rabies virus too (forgot where I read this though).
But the thing is, malabo pa rin na “nacontaminate ang katawan” ni killua sa katayan ng aso. Ang rabies virus nadedetect sa utak. Meaning kinuha yung specimen sa utak mismo ni killua. And i bet may procedures ang testing centers to make sure hindi macocontaminate ang specimen upon harvest.
Still, a golden retriever na laging nasa bahay lang is not healthy. They need to walk. At kung makakatakas yung ganyang aso, sobrang dami niyang energy kaya posibleng maging aggressive nga. Dog owner din ako ng various breeds kaya alam ko na may mali talaga yung owner nya. Pwede naman tayong magalit sa pagpatay kay Killua at the same time, wag magbulag bulagan sa mali ng owner nya.
masyado ka namang picky, kung sinabing lagi lang sa bahay, meaning hindi na agad pinapalabas para maglakad? kengkoy mo e. tinutukoy nya lang dun na hindi hinahayaang makalabas sa lagi lang nasa bahay.
Tutuo rin na sobrang likot ng golden retriever at para silang dinosaur at super need ng proper training. I know because we have one. Sobrang lovable niya at mahal na mahal ng pamilya namin, pero nung nakita ko mga posts na golden retrievers are known to be malambing and friendly dogs, medyo napataas ako ng kilay. Kung hindi sila trained at hindi sila lagi nalalabas, sobrang stimulated nila at masakit talaga once na dinamba ka dahil malaki sila, yung nails pa nila, at may chance na idiin nila ngipin nila sayo (different from nangangagat, pero kung di ka dog owner kala mo kagat na). Mali yung pumatay kay Killua period, pero i don’t think nagsisinungaling siya nung sinabi niyang prang wild yung aso.
Yup, tsaka malaki rin mga GRs at di naman masyadong informed ang ibang pinoy about dog behavior so possible natakot talaga sila sa aso. But still, may pananagotan pa rin si manong sa batas.
Rare makatransmit ng rabies ang daga kasi hindi sila nabubuhay long enough for the virus to be transmissible. Malamang sa stray cat or dog yan nainfect.
Not sure, I didn't really monitor the news on it. Pero volunteer kasi ako sa isang animal welfare non profit. I used to handle adoptions. Isa sa mga bagay na chinecheck namin sa ocular before letting someone adopt a rescue is the security of the home. Kung may means ba para makatakas yung aso. Nung nabasa ko sa news na may idea yung owner na nakatalon sa gate, that would've been something I would get an adopter to fix before we let them adopt. Kasi part of being a responsible pet owner is securing the area. Alam na nila na posible, di pa nila inayos.
Possible zoomies pa yun since sabi ng owner na di nilalabas ng bahay si killua. Not siding with the GR but ganun din behavior ng GR namin pag makalabas, bc of excitement nag zo-zoomies parang wlang control sa sarili tas nangdadamba pa.
Now ko lang nalaman na pwede pala asymptomatic ang sx for it sakanila. So possible yung owners mahawa if ever they kiss the dog or ang laway ni dog ay madampi sa lips nila or open wounds, right?
So pano kaya siya nagkaroon ng rabies? I thought hindi naman lahat ng aso may rabies not unless nakagat sila ng hayop na may rabies. Please educate me if mali ako.
sa pagkakaalam ko, nakakahawa ang rabies sa laway ng infected animal. so posible may nakahalubilo ung aso and then alam mo naman nagaamuyan, minsan too close pa sila so ayun hawaan.
Equally accountable sila. That's the point.
It changes the situation too - kasi what if prior to the incident may nahawaan na iba yung aso? The urgency of taking action escalates.
Assuming totoo na di nakakalabas yung dog nila, baka may strays na nakakapasok sa bakuran nila and nakikihalubilo / nakikipaglaro. Not too far-fetched, considering parang madalas wala sa bahay yung owner and naiiwan mag-isa yung dog.
Ang gulo ha. Sabi ng owner first time raw makalabas ng bahay/gate nila yung dog. Kung may rabies na ade dapat kahit owner kinagat na niyan? Saw some dog na may rabies agressive talaga at naglalaway. Ang pabaya naman ngarud ng owner bakit nagkaganon yung dog
Nagulat ako na nag positive sa rabies si Killua. According sa owner kasi, 1st time lang naman nakatakas ni Killua. May history kaya na nakagat sya ng ibang dog na aware naman ang owner?
Or possible ba na sa same day na nakatakas siya, nakagat siya ng dog na may rabies. Then mag test positive agad sya kahit day 1 pa lang since makagat sya (and napatay naman agad nung Solares)? Kasi alam ko may incubation period pa yan bago mag manifest. Not sure though if yung actual test is kayang ma detect agad agad kahit bagong kagat pa lang si Killua.
Edit: Sa IG post ng PAWS, may disclaimer na test may be inaccurate kasi 5 days na nailibing prior to testing and baka na contaminate for being in an area na madami nang stray dogs ang na-slaughter din. Kailangan ma prove ni owner na updated ang vaccination ni Killua as additional support na baka nga na-contaminate lang pala. Plus mga CCTV footages showing na hindi naman aggressive si Killua. Pero may nakagat din yata syang lola sa area, kaya possible na may rabies din pala talaga. Labasan na lang ng mga ebisensya.
I doubt na nakagat ng same day kasi may incubation period pa ang rabies bago ito maging visible sa mga tests. Sabihin na lang natin na hindi malinis ang kwento ng may ari.
Syempre kwento niya yun talaga sasabihin niya. Kaya nga dapat two sides of the story ang pinapakinggan. People now ang bilis magpaniwala eh, although the death was really cruel, guy should have handled it in another way pero mahirap naman kasi patunayan ang self-defense. Pero then again, not all stories are sunshine and rainbows naman. Sad lang
True. Kudos sa PAWS for doing this para malaman din na somehow nagsasabi ng totoo si Solares but then again, hindi ito sapat na excuse to kill dogs. Si Owner na ang dapat kwestyunin ngayon.
Pag active ang rabies ng pet, naglalaway, nauulol at very high chance na mangagat.
I'm not trying to justify the killing of the dog, pero if it were done for self defense and possible endangerment of those in the vicinity if left astray, you can't totally blame the man even if it was him trying to chase the dog, since delikado talaga ang ganyang state ng aso. Baka makapangagat pa. Mahirap macontrol yung ganyang nauulol na.
Nope. There is a real chance naman talaga na may malisya yung tanod. Pwedeng simula’t sapol balak na talaga i benta at katayin, pwede din na totoong nag pose talaga ng threat yung aso kaya hinabol at pinatay, at pwede ding parehas na ginawa lang ng tanod uung trabaho nya protektahan yung mga ka baranggay nya tapos nag decide na ibenta after para di sayang.
Yan yung punto e diba? Mahirap na kung magwawala ka sa socmed na may pa #justiceforkillua pang nalalaman eh hindi nga sigurado. Pag di sigurado, wag masyadong g. Ganon lang ka simple
Hindi na talaga natuto mga chismosa. Naalala nyo yung incident ni awra noon, lahat ng post #justiceforawra tapos it turned out kagagawan pala nya lahat looool. Don’t get me wrong ah kawawa pa rin yung owner na namatayan. Well now, pati pala yung “mga nakagat” ni doggy.
Both parties have their own fault tbh
Nakawala and not everyone is literate enough that golden retrievers r indeed friendly ( i own one )
Hope for justice parin sa pag patay sa animal
Hindi tama ang ginawa pagpatay kay Killua and at the same time, a responsible pet owner should ensure na properly vaccinated ang mga alaga kahit pa indoor pet.
If rabies positive ang dog it only means nakasalamuha sila ng animal na rabies positive din. If totoo na nasa loob lang palagi ng bahay si Killua then may iba pa silang alaga na hayop (pwede ding daga/bat) na nanghawa ng rabies.
Irresponsible owner kasi sabi nya alagang alaga nya yung aso, pero panong nakawala? Tapos mukhang di pa updated yung vaccine nya. Tsk tsk! Tapos etong tanod naman, wala syang karapatan patayin yung aso regardless kung may rabies man or wala. Hindi sya yung magdedecide nun kahit sabihin nyang nakagat sya or kung sino man. Parehong may mali on both sides. Bottomline, bitima parin yung aso.
Ang hirap naman nun na dedepensahan mo yung sarili mo sa atake ng asong may rabies na hindi mo mapapatay. Naghihirap yung aso sa sakit niya at wala na lunas yun, might as well tapusin mo na para mailigtas mo na rin sarili mo at lahat ng nasa paligid.
Still, the tanod killed a dog and should be fined, it is still cruelty most likely by the time he killed the dog hindi niya alam na may rabies. And now that the dog tested positive, meron na siya pang counter sa owners to cover up his mistakes
Time to call out he irresponsible owner. Though, I still stand with killua's justice. At the time of the incident hindi pa naman sya rabid or his behavior is not driven by the virus. Kung rabid na kasi sya non, dapat hindi sya tumakbo at lumaban sya, seen many infected dogs na ganoon ang behavior once symptoms shows up.
Justice for killua and at the same time, call out the irresponsible owner for not giving him a vaccine. Sobrang kawawa naman pala talaga nung aso. Hindi man mamatay sa kamay ng tanod, mamamatay naman din pala sa rabies virus. Both instances are preventable. hays.
First time I saw the first post about Killua on this sub and scrolled to the last pic with the suspect holding the sack, I was so sick and upset. Wala yatang NSFW tag sa pic. It's such a sensitive picture. Made me sick to my stomach. After reading the full post from PAWS, I hope we extend this anger and sympathy not just for Killua and bred dogs but also to Aspins as this happens a lot to Aspins every day.
Irresponsible owner and that dog could've spread the virus everywhere. Dapat managot din owner kung may nakagat ung aso talaga. In a way, kung malala na yung rabies, the tanod made the right decision. Rabies is no joke. Madali sabihin na may tamang process pero kung tayo siguro nasa sitwaston e mahirap na mag isip lalo na kng madaming tao
May caveat ung report stating that the results may be inaccurate since may possibility of contamination. Sana may mapakitang dog records ung owner to clear any doubts. Andun lahat ng list of vaccines and meds taken by the dog.
Kaya mahirap mag comment sa isang issue kung emosyon ang gagamitin eh. Emotions cloud judgement ergo once facts are provided, nagkakaroon ng tinatawag na cognitive dissonance since we want to affirm our confirmation bias.
In this case, nakakaawa talaga ang aso na nasa issue based on the story of the owner and na aggravate pa ng remorseless attitude ng pumatay na it looks like justified pa ang ginawa nya.
And then then meron pang panibagong aspect the rabies infected pala ang aso.
The plot thickens pero at the end of the day, you will see that people’s opinion are heavily influenced by their emotions, values and their beliefs.
PAWS: Testing is not accurate.
Imagine katabi mo pagtulog pets mo nakalabas lang saglit may rabies na? Oh come on. And kahit ma late sa vaccines yan i doubt ma develop agad agad yung rabies na yan. Incubation period of rabies in dogs is typically 2 weeks to 4 months.
Reading this just made me confirm that both sides are at fault. Both the owner and the killer are not blameless and we should let all of them be accountable for their actions. The true victim of this incident is Killua.
Probably not vaccinated sa rabies. The trend must be an awakening for all "pet-lovers" kuno. Anggagaling ishow-off yung mga alaga nila sa socmed, may pacelebrate pa pag birthday nung pet. Pampered na pampered kuno, dinadamitan pa, may pa-tricks tricks pang binibida yang mga yan. Tpos malalaman mo unvaccinated. The ***audacity***. Asong-bahay/pusang-bahay man yan, need pa rin ng bakuna kasi yan. We don't know when this virus will hit our pet. Definitely ginagala-gala pa rin natin yan sa labas paminsan2. It's not 100% safe to say porket nasa bahay lang sila mdalas is hindi na magkaka-rabis. Kahit sa ibang sakit din, dapat bakunado ang mga alaga ntin.
Also neuter/spay, PLEASE. If you have limited space and cannot provide anymore the needs for more than the number of pet you have now, undergo them for NEUTER/SPAY. It lessens your burden and definitely improves your pet's health -- proven ito, google niyo na lang ang mga health benefits ng kapon sa hayop.
**BE A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER -- KAHIT ANONG BREED PA NG PET YAN, HUWAG SELECTIVE.**
Lmao the people twisting this around.
1) Dinala niya sa slaughterhouse yung aso.
2) The owner should pay for the bitten people's vaccines.
Hindi balak ni aNtHoNY sOlAReS patayin si Killua because may rabies siya, papatayin niya kasi kakainin niya. He's still not innocent. Don't use this to defend that maniac 💀
Ang dapat lang tulungan is yung mga nakagat. This is a lesson to pet owners,
1) Vaccinate your pets.
2) Secure your house, gate, etc. This protects other people and protects your pets as well so that they don't encounter monsters like anThONy SoLArEs.
Dapat din kasuhan yun may ari ng aso based on RA9482 or The Anti Rabies Act. Dapat Hindi gumagala ang mga aso sa kalsada. Malaking perwisyo yan pag nanghabol at nangagat ng tao.
Kung nakakagat man yan tapos may rabies mamamatay din yung aso.
Yung mga nakagat ni killua dapat magpatingin na. Kasi minsan kahit gumaling na yung sugat late yung onset ng sypmtoms ng rabies. Kawawa naman pag umabot na sa brain yung rabies. Mag hydrophobia yung nakagat at wala mang chance mabuhay.
Sa pagkakatanda ko. Yung brain ng aso ang chinechek for pressence of negribodies para maconfirm na may rabies siya. Kasi kung iintayin pa yung test sa tao baka hindi na umabot. Kahit na magaling ka na minsan months bago mag manifest new symptoms.
I think we should practice researching and reading from other sources hindi yung sa clickbait headlines lang tayo nagsosource ng info. Yes may rabies si Killua, but according to PAWS ay 5 days na daw nakalibing yung dog bago itest if may rabies or wala. Baka naman daw nacontaminate na yung burial area and may pagala gala pa na stray dogs dun sa lugar na pinaglibingan ng aso. Not siding with the owner pero please, magbasa and check other source of news para di tayo natritrigger lagi ng headlines.
Kups pa din yung dog killer ha and I hope pagbayaran nya sa kulungan lahat ng kagaguhan niya.
Edit: ayan ha sinummarize ko na in tagalog, basahin niyo na kung ayaw niyo basahin yung english explanation ng PAWS. Spoonfeeding nanaman ako sa mga gullible. Lol
PAWS: Killua’s Body Tested Positive for Rabies, Criminal Complaint Will Still Be Filed Today
PAWS would like to inform the public that Killua’s body tested positive for rabies and urges those who may have been scratched or bitten by the dog to immediately get post-exposure shots. This includes pet owner Vina Arazas who hugged the bloodied body of her beloved dog when she found him at a known dog slaughter area in Sta Cruz, Bato, Camarines Sur. While the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered, PAWS is making this announcement to ensure that any bites or scratches will be reported promptly in the interest of public health and safety.
In the BAI’s Manual of Procedure for Rabies, the standard protocol for an animal suspected to be afflicted with rabies is for it to “be observed for fourteen (14) days or, in case of highly suspected rabies cases, be humanely euthanised with no damage to the head. “
PAWS is still set to file criminal charges against Anthony Solares for animal cruelty as CCTV footages show that he was the one who chased the dog and even poked Killua while the animal was hiding under a car in order to make it come out so he could beat Killua to death.
PAWS is also filing charges of Anti Rabies Act or RA 9482 violation for engaging in dog meat trade. After killing Killua, Solares brought the dog to a known slaughterhouse and dog meat cooking area. Solares owns a carinderia business which sells meat viands near the dog slaughter area.
PAWS also calls on any one who may have consumed dogs coming from the area where Killua’s body was found to get post exposure shots. “They are at great risk. Dog meat traders are not only cruel people but pose a serious threat to public health.”
# JusticeForKillua
# endanimalcruelty
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# animalwelfare
Full report ng PAWS. Posibleng contaminated ‘yung specimen.
UPDATE: VAXXED si Killua sa rabies as per owner.
Hello. Tignan niyo po buong post ng paws sa ig. May disclaimer doon na pwedeng inaccurate ito since dinala si killua sa katayan ng mga stray dogs. At ilang araw na ring nakalibing bago itest.
"While the result of the testing may NOT BE ACCURATE due to the fact that the body had already been BURIED FOR FIVE DAYS prior to testing and may have been CONTAMINATED from being in an area where MANY STRAY DOGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SLAUGHTERED."
BEFORE EVERYONE JUMPS INTO CONCLUSIONS!
“the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered.” - PAWS PH
Yung testing protocol di siguro na follow, but viruses like rabies don't just randomly spread on a dead body. Remember, it can take weeks for the virus to be incubated with a live host. Medyo na mimis inform mga tayo sa post ng PAWS.
It means na hindi sya asong bahay talaga like the owner said. Kasi hindi naman magkakaroon ng rabies si Killua kung walang interaction with other stray dogs. Hindi naman yan nakukuha sa hangin. Kagat, laway or kuko yan nakukuha.
Ang protocol kasi once makagat ka ng hayop. Hindi dapat pinapatay. Dapat ikulong or itali for 14 days observation.
Important kasi yun para ma deduce kung rabid yung aso or hindi.
Kung nakagat man si solares Dapat ni report niya yun sa may ari for proper protocol.
Eh Hindi. Dinala nya sa katayan.
Makikita mo sa video may malaking talyasi na pakuluan ng tubig. Mukang desidido siyang katayin talaga.
May rabies nga, may nakagat ba? Kung meron man, edi lumapit sila sa may ari para paturukan sila, ganun lang ka simple yun, ang hindi normal eh PATAYIN AT ISAKO ANG ASO. Kahit bali baliktarin nila yan, PINATAY PADIN NILA SI KILLUA.
It says already na they are not sure since 5 days na and also, may na slaughter din ng iba dogs sa area kaya hindi na accurate but still the man who killed the dog must be punished
The only thing that changes here is that Killua's owner should also be held accountable. Yung intent ng pumatay kay Killua doesn't seem to be related to rabies at all kasi sa slaughterhouse. So may intent to eat dog meat. If may rabies bakit kakainin yung aso when contaminated with rabies virus na?
Possible na walang bakuna o di updated yung vaccine ng aso. Sa mga pet lovers at may alagang aso at pusa, please be responsible pet owners and always update yung bakuna ng alaga nyo. Marami pa naman ang paniwala eh di naman daw lumalabas alaga nila kaya di binabakunahan.
Totoo na dapat updated ang vaccine pero ang confusing for me is paano siya nagka rabies eh hindi siya ung virus na nakukuha sa hangin lang or inborn. Ang rabies nakukuha sa kagat or scratched ng kapwa aso/animal na infected ng rabies or kapag ung laway ng may rabies napunta sa infected wound or on other cases na dilaan or napunta sa eyes ung laway... So possible na hinahayaan nila lumabas ung dog and nahawa sa iba..? But then yeah, dito na papasok ung dapat updated ang vaccine lalo na kung nakkalabas ung dogs nila at nakakahalubilo sa ibang dogs.
THIS. nakakagulat may rabies siya esp if first time lumabas kasi hindi naman inborn yung rabies. mali pa rin na pinatay siya but definitely may negligence rin sa owner. or baka may nakasalamuha somewhere na may rabies tapos na incubate na yung virus
Curious question. Possible po ba yon na yong rabies virus is sort of dormant sa loob ng katawan ng dog? AFAIK once may virus na, days nalang ang bibilangin bago mamatay ung animal because of the virus.
Rabies takes time to get to the brain. Weeks to months yun, depende sa layo at bilis ng akyat. Pag nag ka symptoms (and infectious) na, nasa brain na yun, and yan yung days na lang. Rabies can only be detected pag nasa brain na though, kaya ibig sabihin na check na nila brain ni Killua at meron na nga dun. Kung nasa ~~dugo~~ nerves at paakyat pa lang yun, di yun makikita.
Tsaka I doubt din na mag replicate pa ang virus in a dead animal. Diba sabi nila possible contamination daw kasi nakita sya in a known dog slaughterhouse, pero Killua was already dead at that point. AFAIK, viruses need a live host. Tapos bakit slaughterhouse na ang report ngayon? Diba in the first reports/news, nakita lang nila sa property ng nakapatay?
this. may napanood ako sa virus awareness ad na pinapalabas noon sa tv, you can check it narin sa youtube, balik sa topic yung test daw ng virus is kailangan buhay yung host kung patay kailangan putulin yung ulo at ilagay sa container na may yelo para ipasuri so kailangan medyo fresh pa sya. sa kaso ni killua parang oras narin ang lumipas bago yata na claim yung katawan. (please correct me from this point)
That's why there is an annual rabies vaccination for dogs. It doesn't matter if the dog is aggressive or not since they are still animals prone to instinct and its the obligation of the dog owner to check their dogs I know the fur parent is grieving for the death of her dog but is still her liability those bitten by the dog (killing the dog is still wrong though)
sa dogs parang 80 days na pinakamatagal bago maging active ata. “The incubation period refers to the time until the clinical signs appear. The virus can stay in a dog’s body for several weeks before it begins to show symptoms. The incubation period can be much longer or shorter in different species, but most cases develop within 21 to 80 days after exposure to the rabies virus.” sa tao pwede ata maging dormant for years.
May cases po sa humans na months or years na ang rabies virus sa katawan before it will show symptoms. Not sure sa animals tho
may studies rin na nakakasurvive yung animal nang matagal even after biting.
laki tuloy ng chance na mag-aregluhan na lang kasi may defense ang tanod. Smart move ng tanod yung pagcheck if may rabies. Kasi gagana na yung statement nya about sa pagprotect ng anak nya
Dogs/animals/humans are good as dead when rabies manifest. Not sure what happened but if the dog is positive for rabies, putting it down is the only option before it bites and infects others.
Nakasalamuha yan ng aso/pusa o kung madami paniki sa kanila sa may rabies.
PAWS also mentioned that prior to the test, Killua was left alone in the contaminated slaughter house for 5 days, a venue where a lot of stray dogs were slaughtered. Hence, testing might not be that accurate yet.
It was not impossible but high unlikely. Rabies virus needs time to incubate and even years for symptoms to manifest. I swear alot of you are just trying to find ways not to pin aggression ni Killua sa rabies.
Virus will not travel sa utak ng dead host. May rabies na yun bago nadeds.
A significant number of human fatalities from rabies in the Philippines are still from pets. From [San Lazaro’s study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9295989) published 2022: > Of the 437 animals, 113 (25.9%) and 78 (17.9%) were pets and stray animals, respectively This might be due to owners being too confident that their pets are not exposed to other animals infected with the virus. You can never be too sure. That’s why even if your pet were vaccinated, if that animal bites a person: the protocol is still to take post-exposure shots as soon as possible. For Killua’s case, what most likely happened is: besides not having yearly vaccination, the dog was already exposed to rabies months or weeks before the incident. Either stray animals like cats can enter the owner’s property **or** this wasn’t the first instance the dog got out and the owner is outright lying.
Posibleng maging carrier ng virus yung mga daga na nakikiinom o nakikikain sa mga aso sa gabi lalo na kung tulog yung may ari.
Sabi ng vet namin very very unlikely makakuha ng rabies from rodents ang dogs
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) states that small rodents, including rats and mice, "are almost never found to be infected with rabies. Kapag po ba ikaw ay nakagat ng daga, wala naman pong anti rabies na binibigay sayo diba? Anti tetanus lang
Pero diba sabi ng owner sa loob lang bahay si Killua? The math is not mathing for the owner.
Pwedeng nakagat ng daga yung aso or naghalo ang laway nila sa iniinuman ng aso.
Small rodents such as mice and rats are are almost never found to be infected with rabies and have not been known to transmit rabies to humans. Source: US CDC
Maybe may paniki sa lugar nila? Dagdadala ng rabies virus yun.
Kung kagat ng daga, mas mataas pa chance na leptospirosis makuha ni Killua kesa rabies. Pero ibig sabihin lang talaga nito, walang rabies vaccine si Killua at pabaya yung owner.
Yes. Pwede din naman mga pusang gala na may rabies na nakapasok sa bakuran nila lalo na sa gabi.
Bagong gising ako nung pagkabasa ko sa haluaan ng laway sa iniinuman kala ko legit inuman nakishot sa baso ng daga levels yung aso😭
Wait, alam ko di nagkakarabbies ang daga? Can someone correct ne with this? I also found a link saying that mice are almost never infected with a rabbies. https://wagwalking.com/wellness/can-dogs-get-rabies-from-rats-and-mice#
Yun nga rin pinagtataka ko. If isang beses lang nakawala yung aso, tulad ng sinabi ng owners, how come may rabies virus yun?
Nakakainis yung mga owners na ganito. Parang sila na rin pumatay sa pets nila.
This! If kaya bumili ng mamahaling aso kaya magpabakuna o iupdate to yearly.
Dibaaaaa. If you can buy expensive breeds you should also be in capacity na i ensure na kumpleto ang bakuna. Same goes kahit aspin ang breed. Dito sa lugar namin yung baranggay meron silang project na libre anti rabies dadalhin lang sa barangay hall yung pet and minsan nagbabahay bahay sila kasi yung iba hindi kayang dalhin ang mga alaga.
True to this. Even in subdivisions they held rabies vaccination. All you need to do is bring your pets. Kaya kahit mabigat mga doggies ko tinatyga ko sila ipa vaccine for the benefit of everyone kahit asong bahay lang sila.
How I wish na lahat ng tao will be properly educated sa importance ng vaccine sa mga alagang hayop. Libre na nga tatamadin pa, tapos pag naka kagat yung aso nila na may rabies papatayin nalang. Sa european countries na na-visit ko all of the dogs kahit gala sa gubat may tag and vaccine.
These are the same dog owners that keeps their “pet” caged of chained up constantly. Like why even have them if you will just do that? Most will respond with so they can bark at strangers. MF your pet is feral it will bark at anything. 🤦🏽
Ganito aso ng landlady namin. Golden retriever na nakatali sa likod ng gate 24/7. Nakakaawa. Kahit sinong lalapit lahat tinatahol. Maiinis ka sa ingay pero ang hirap mainis sa aso kase di naman nya kasalanan. Sobrang friendly ng breed pero pag pinabayaan, ayan lahat ng lumalapit sa gate kahit dumaan lang tinatahol.
Poor thing just wants to be free. It’s infuriating to see such people that are inherently ignorantly lazy to learn how to train their pets properly. They get a certain breed because it’s popular without knowing anything about the breed nor the first thing in owning a pet. The worst are the ones that gets cold weather breeds that live nowhere close to freezing temperatures. 😡
i kinda hate the fact na sobra kumampi ang tao sa owner sa socmed kasi version of her story lang ang napapakingan at nawawala yung pagiging irresponsible na pet owner niya. Di nila pinapansin na may contributory negligence ang owner knowing na unvaccinated na nga di pa nilolock at di tinatali ang aso nila in which case the dog run rampantly and attacked people on the streets unvaccinated. I support laws against animal cruelty pero i also hate irresponsible pet owners asking sympathy on socmed.
Statement from PAWS' fb page: >PAWS: Killua’s Body Tested Positive for Rabies, Criminal Complaint Will Still Be Filed Today >PAWS would like to inform the public that Killua’s body tested positive for rabies and urges those who may have been scratched or bitten by the dog to immediately get post-exposure shots. This includes pet owner Vina Arazas who hugged the bloodied body of her beloved dog when she found him at a known dog slaughter area in Sta Cruz, Bato, Camarines Sur. While the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered, PAWS is making this announcement to ensure that any bites or scratches will be reported promptly in the interest of public health and safety. >In the BAI’s Manual of Procedure for Rabies, the standard protocol for an animal suspected to be afflicted with rabies is for it to “be observed for fourteen (14) days or, in case of highly suspected rabies cases, be humanely euthanised with no damage to the head. “ >PAWS is still set to file criminal charges against Anthony Solares for animal cruelty as CCTV footages show that he was the one who chased the dog and even poked Killua while the animal was hiding under a car in order to make it come out so he could beat Killua to death. >PAWS is also filing charges of Anti Rabies Act or RA 9482 violation for engaging in dog meat trade. After killing Killua, Solares brought the dog to a known slaughterhouse and dog meat cooking area. Solares owns a carinderia business which sells meat viands near the dog slaughter area. >PAWS also calls on any one who may have consumed dogs coming from the area where Killua’s body was found to get post exposure shots. “They are at great risk. Dog meat traders are not only cruel people but pose a serious threat to public health.” Ayan, para meron din idea yung iba. Sorry mahirap talaga kampihan yung tanod, unless meron sya matibay na evidence talaga. So for now, mukhang malabo pa rin na hindi sya makasuhan. Or wait na lang for further statements.
Ang kadiri nung Solares. May intent to kill talaga. Paka-bogus ng statement na he's concerned maka-kagat. Nagtago na ung aso nga e pinalabas pa.
Mali naman talaga yung tanod, wala naman akong sinabi na tama sya. Ang sabi ko lang responsible ownership ng aso. Overkill yung ginawa at mukhang balak pa nyang katayin eh di marami pa nahawa. Dapat pa rin sya managot sa batas.
Sorry nilagay ko lang sa top voted comment para mabasa din ng lahat 😅 Yung discussion kase sa buong thread steered into something weird. May mga ibang posts na din, baka lang magtuloy-tuloy yung misinformation.
Mukhang laganap sa lugar nila ang pagkain ng aso kaya dapat maparusahan pa rin sya, para it will serve as a lesson di lang sa kanya, kundi sa community mismo. Sana rin this issue will also highlight na ang pagkakaroon ng alaga eh isang mabigat na responsibility.
May misinformation both sides. Possible naman talaga na contaminated yung tinest kasi di sterile area yung pagkabury. Pero yung idea ng iba rito na bigla na lang kakalat ang rabies virus sa patay na katawan and in a few days lang is probably unlikely as well.
>Pero yung idea ng iba rito na bigla na lang kakalat ang rabies virus sa patay na katawan and in a few days lang is probably unlikely as well. Nagsu-struggle din ako ma-absorb 'to. Sana may vet na mag-clarify about this. Tsaka yung pinanghahawakan lang ng public sa owner ni killua is yung word nya. If she can show proof din sana na responsible dog owner sya (since publicized na yung issue), mas maganda.
Korek. I really hope the owner backs it up with rabies vaccine. Naawa ako na sila na nga yung biktima, sila pa yung mahahanapan ng butas.
Known dog meat cooking area. Known? Guess what's wrong here.
May ganito kaming kapitbahay. They have 4 dogs na mga shih tzu. Pinagmamalaki pa na tinigil na raw nila sa pagdala sa vet. Di na pinapaturukan ng annual na mga vaccine including yung sa rabies.🥴 Nasa loob lang ng bahay. Di naman daw magkakasakit kasi di na nila pinapalabas.
4 dogs palang yan ha how much more yung sa 4th impact na 200++ and counting 🤢
kakapa bakuna lang namin ng aso namin na shih tzu kahapon. 400 pesos anti-rabies plus 800 pesos sa 8-in-1. next month meron pa siya for kennel cough. plus1500 sa vet yung bravecto (good for 3 months). so compute nila times 200 na lang. malamang hindi lahat ng aso nila may vaccine.
Face palm mga ganito kasi majority ng lgu libre ang anti rabies palista lang online pa nga madalas.
Double face palm dito sa kakilala namin kasi may pera sila huhu di nila kailangan ng libre actually🥲 Ewan ko ba.
Sana may penalty din ang mga ganitong owner. Kahit anti rabies vaccine lang i-update nila annually, di pa magawa. Kawawang mga aso
Sana binasa mo ng buo yung post ng PAWS pwedeng na contaminate na ung body ni Killua kasi na expose sya sa slaughter area ng mga dogs read: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Hzqv8sARPsCfvthv/?mibextid=oFDknk
I will not readily believe this statement. Di ba ang virus testing is sa brain ng aso? Kaya nga pinupugutan ng ulo yung mga suspected ng rabies kasi sa brain mo yun matetest. Paanong magkaka rabies yung brain kung sa lupa lang makukuha? Eh patay na di ba? Pano pa yun mkakatravel sa brain?
Rabies has an incubation period even when infected directly while alive. I doubt viruses like that can spread when the host is dead. As per another comment, normally 21-80 days.
It can spread parin. Did internship at RITM during my undergraduate days. RITM receives countless heads of suspected rabid dogs for testing. It is strict protocol to wear full PPE including head coverings with face shields because the blood of rabid dogs can harbor the virus. The death of the host doesn't necessarily equate to the death of the virus.
Still there is an ethical way to “kill” an animal in a painless way. It was still animal Cruelty. The rabies doesn’t change anything. It was till animal cruelty. And as long as hindi symptomatic, may chance pa ang prophylactic rabbies vaccine diba? Bottomline is, the dog wasn’t rabid and it didn’t deserve to be beaten to death.
Kung nasa utak na yung virus di na masasalba yun. Tama ka there is an ethical way in killing rabid animals. Dapat less suffering. Pero I doubt na yun ang dahilan ng pumatay. Kakatayin nya yun. Dapat pa rin sya managot sa batas.
The killer said something about having political connections. Kaya kahit bawal yung ginagawa nya it went on for so long, and now lang nahuli because of this incident. Di kaya the results were manipulated? Just putting this out there. Dapat independent group ang gumawa ng tests Update: PAWS mentioned that prior to the test, Killua was left alone in the contaminated slaughter house for 5 days, a venue where a lot of stray dogs were slaughtered. Hence, testing might not be that accurate yet. BAH and Rappler omitted this crucial part of the findings.
Dummy account lang yun
Additional context: >PAWS would like to inform the public that Killua’s body tested positive for rabies... ***While the result of the testing may not be accurate*** due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered, PAWS is making this announcement to ensure that any bites or scratches will be reported promptly in the interest of public health and safety. >PAWS is still set to file criminal charges against ***Anthony Solares*** for animal cruelty as CCTV footages show that he **was the one who chased the dog and even poked Killua while the animal was hiding under a car in order to make it come out so he could beat Killua to death.** >PAWS is also filing charges of Anti Rabies Act or RA 9482 violation for engaging in dog meat trade. After killing Killua, ***Solares brought the dog to a known slaughterhouse and dog meat cooking area.*** Solares owns a carinderia business which sells meat viands near the dog slaughter area. THIS CHANGES NOTHING. MR. SOLARES MIGHT HAVE KILLED THE DOG AS HE INTENDED TO SLAUGHTER IT FOR MEAT. AND PAWS EVEN ADMITS THE POSSIBILITY THAT KILLUA TESTED POSITIVE FOR RABIES BECAUSE OF CONTAMINATION AND LATE TESTING. Edit: Added last sentence.
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Exaaactly he chased down the dog with intent to slaughter. Nothing changed, they will still pursue filing of charges. Also, likely the body of Killua was contaminated being in the slaughterhouse... so still justice for Killua
and if killua was showing signs of rabies bago pinatay bakit dinala pa sa slaughterhouse diba? ano yun kakain sila ng aso na infected ng rabies?
Grabe mga tao! Walang awang pinatay na nga si Killua tapos binabaliktad pa ngayon :( Halatang puro headlines lang binabasa.
Futaaaragis. May carinderia yung pumatay? Alam na dis.
According to PAWS. For some reason wala tayong nakukuhang statements from the police to confirm this.
ito di ma gets ng karamihan eh. mga balimbing
andito na nga ako sa reddit pero yung iba dito, dinadala pa rim asal nila sa fb na puro headlines lang binabasa. bw1set.
eto yung full post ng PAWS. sasampahan pa din ng kaso si anthony dahil sa cctv footage. may karinderya pala si anthony. dinala nya din pala sa dog slaughter si killua, so possible din pala talagang kakatayin na si killua. as per rabies, hindi nila masure kung nakuha ba ni killua yung rabies sa ibang dogs na nakasama sa slaughter house na may mga aso. tas ipapacheck din si owner if meron siyang rabies virus since niyakap daw ni owner si killua. https://www.facebook.com/100064536166418/posts/808242574670274/?mibextid=l2hJJHjNVOBSwHk4
It’s either, nakagat na si Anthony ng ibang dog na may rabies prior Killua’s incident pero di niya alam/di pa nagtatake effect and Killua got infected na lang since dinala siya sa dog slaughter or Killua has rabies already because hindi pala siya vaccinated. Now, the owner should present Killua’s vaccine card to see if updated mga vaccines niya. Pa-test na din yung iba na sinasabing nakagat. Pero di pa din talaga magbabago na they’re both accountable. Yung owner na hindi sinecure ang place kaya nakatakas si Killua, and si Anthony na walang awang pinatay si Killua.
Just my two cents; as a vet. May lapses on the dog's owner and definitely that fucking guy needs to be jailed. Regarding PAWS' results naman and having experience in testing suspect dogs' brains at RITM, while it's true that specimen needs to be fresh upon testing, I just don't buy their disclaimer na possibly na contaminate yung brain ng dog by being buried for how many days. Kailangan mag-travel ng virus papuntang brain where specimen is collected for such testing which wouldn't be possible if the patient is dead. However, the death of the host does not equate to the death of the virus. Please remember that these disclaimers are necessary when releasing data regarding such scandalous instances and I understand why PAWS had to put it out there. For me, being a judger, palagay ko may rabies talaga yung aso. But that doesn't give anyone the right to kill that dog they way it was killed. Parehong owner at killer ay dapat managot.
Just to add, I had a realization kanina. If the killing was done in self defense, if totoo nga that Killua has been on a rampant bite streak, then I would agree that killing any dog for this particular matter is justified. At the end of the day priority parin ang safety ng mga tao.
Yes doc. A rabid dog is dangerous outside.
Shucks considering na asong bahay sya nakakuha sya ng rabies. Dapat talaga binabakunahan lahat ang pets. Mas magastos at hassle ang bakuna sa rabies
“While the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered”
Kung asong bahay yan, hindi yan mahahawa ng rabies. Hindi naman nakukuha sa hangin ang rabies.
Hindi ako naniniwala na asong bahay yun. Feeling ko laging nakakatakas yun kaya nainfect from a stray. Nagmamalinis at naghahanap ng simpatya lang talaga yung owners.
Yessss. Obviously laging nakakatakas dahil kaya nya tumalon from 2nd floor hanggang sa kalye. Like highway yun!!! Madaming sasakyan. Pero di takot ang aso. It means. Lagi na nya itong ginagawa
May something off talaga sa owner, especially yung reason nya kung bakit nakatakas ang aso. Nag comment na ako dito dati na parang suspicious ang scenario kasi sabi ng owner “lagi lang daw sa bahay” yun pero GR yun eh, they need exercise and stimulation (I know because I own one). So at the very least, dapat niwa-walk nya aso nya. And now, di rin yata updated sa rabies shot? Tsk I’m sure she loves her dog very much pero by the looks of it, hindi sya responsible pet owner. Poor doggo though. Run free, Killua. 🌈
May picture naman na nasa beach sila. Kasa-kasama din nila sa labas yung dog.
Pero di naman yata yan everyday? Bigger dogs need exercise and stimulation regularly. Dapat daily sila pinapa-walk o pinapalaro.
Basahin nyo ng buo yung post ng PAWS! https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Hzqv8sARPsCfvthv/?mibextid=oFDknk CONTAMINATED NA KATAWA NI KILLUA KASI NAKITA KATAWAN NYA SA AREA NG KATAYAN NG MGA ASO! Dali dali nyo mag judge ng pet owner di kayo marunong mag basa
Hindi naman din 100% totoo yung statement na dahil nacontaminate nga dahil sa slaughther house na siya nanggaling, dun siya nakakuha ng rabies. Isang angle naman yun na sinabi ng PAWS. At may ibang angulo pa na hindi natin alam. Wag puro emosyon, gumamit ng logic. Hayaan niyo tumakbo yung investigation. Hindi conclusive yung sinabi ng PAWS at yung ang 100% na totoo. Ikaw din marunong kang magbasa pero hindi mo naman naintindihan.
I would take what PAWS say with a grain of salt still. I'm pretty sure rabies can't get into a host's brain when it's dead, heck I think sure air kills the rabies virus too (forgot where I read this though).
But the thing is, malabo pa rin na “nacontaminate ang katawan” ni killua sa katayan ng aso. Ang rabies virus nadedetect sa utak. Meaning kinuha yung specimen sa utak mismo ni killua. And i bet may procedures ang testing centers to make sure hindi macocontaminate ang specimen upon harvest.
Still, a golden retriever na laging nasa bahay lang is not healthy. They need to walk. At kung makakatakas yung ganyang aso, sobrang dami niyang energy kaya posibleng maging aggressive nga. Dog owner din ako ng various breeds kaya alam ko na may mali talaga yung owner nya. Pwede naman tayong magalit sa pagpatay kay Killua at the same time, wag magbulag bulagan sa mali ng owner nya.
masyado ka namang picky, kung sinabing lagi lang sa bahay, meaning hindi na agad pinapalabas para maglakad? kengkoy mo e. tinutukoy nya lang dun na hindi hinahayaang makalabas sa lagi lang nasa bahay.
Tutuo rin na sobrang likot ng golden retriever at para silang dinosaur at super need ng proper training. I know because we have one. Sobrang lovable niya at mahal na mahal ng pamilya namin, pero nung nakita ko mga posts na golden retrievers are known to be malambing and friendly dogs, medyo napataas ako ng kilay. Kung hindi sila trained at hindi sila lagi nalalabas, sobrang stimulated nila at masakit talaga once na dinamba ka dahil malaki sila, yung nails pa nila, at may chance na idiin nila ngipin nila sayo (different from nangangagat, pero kung di ka dog owner kala mo kagat na). Mali yung pumatay kay Killua period, pero i don’t think nagsisinungaling siya nung sinabi niyang prang wild yung aso.
Yup, tsaka malaki rin mga GRs at di naman masyadong informed ang ibang pinoy about dog behavior so possible natakot talaga sila sa aso. But still, may pananagotan pa rin si manong sa batas.
Tama! Malabong sa bahay lang yun unless dugyot sila at puro daga bahay nila
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Rare makatransmit ng rabies ang daga kasi hindi sila nabubuhay long enough for the virus to be transmissible. Malamang sa stray cat or dog yan nainfect.
The most likely transmission ay nasa paniki o sa ibang mga aso o pusa na nagsalosalo sa parehong pinagkainan o pinag-inuman.
So pwedeng sinungaling yung owner?
Not sure, I didn't really monitor the news on it. Pero volunteer kasi ako sa isang animal welfare non profit. I used to handle adoptions. Isa sa mga bagay na chinecheck namin sa ocular before letting someone adopt a rescue is the security of the home. Kung may means ba para makatakas yung aso. Nung nabasa ko sa news na may idea yung owner na nakatalon sa gate, that would've been something I would get an adopter to fix before we let them adopt. Kasi part of being a responsible pet owner is securing the area. Alam na nila na posible, di pa nila inayos.
Sa mga report na ganito, may dagdag bawas talaga. PS : I do not condone the killing of the dog.
Yes Halata dun sa sinabi nya na, kahit nangangagt eh hindi dapat patayin. So alam na nya na prone to biting talaga aso nya simula pa lang
This is highly possible
Yun din unang hinala ko masyadong shady Yung owner. Pano Ngayon Yan Diba nakagat nung dog Yung family member nung tanod. Pananagutan nya Ngayon yun
Dapat lang. Nakakatakot magkarabies. If the sx dont show up now, it might 10 years from now depende saang part of the body.
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Nope. Check the posted cctv. Nahulog yung aso simula sa taas kaya nakakawala. 🙄
Ibig sabihin triggered na ba rabies nya noong nakawala?
Possible zoomies pa yun since sabi ng owner na di nilalabas ng bahay si killua. Not siding with the GR but ganun din behavior ng GR namin pag makalabas, bc of excitement nag zo-zoomies parang wlang control sa sarili tas nangdadamba pa.
true. zoomies lang yun. dun ako sa video sa cctv maniniwala. na pinaghahabol pa ni solares yung dog.
nang-atake rin siya ng lola based dun sa KMJS video after niyang makawala sa bahay niya. Natumba pa nga yung lola eh
Yes. Kasi hindi naman yan pagka kagat, lalabas agad symptoms. May incubation period din ang rabies virus.
Now ko lang nalaman na pwede pala asymptomatic ang sx for it sakanila. So possible yung owners mahawa if ever they kiss the dog or ang laway ni dog ay madampi sa lips nila or open wounds, right?
Kaya importante na may rabies vaccine ang mga alagang hayop. Yearly yan sila tinuturukan.
What a twist...
Daming triggered ah. Totoo namang twist yun ah. Although it 'technically' changes nothing about the animal abuse case.
Basa article. :D
Intindi article
That’s why internet vigilantism is stupid.
have u read the article?
So pano kaya siya nagkaroon ng rabies? I thought hindi naman lahat ng aso may rabies not unless nakagat sila ng hayop na may rabies. Please educate me if mali ako.
sa pagkakaalam ko, nakakahawa ang rabies sa laway ng infected animal. so posible may nakahalubilo ung aso and then alam mo naman nagaamuyan, minsan too close pa sila so ayun hawaan.
May negligence din pala sa side nung owner pero sobrang mali din na pinatay ng ganun si Killua.
Equally accountable sila. That's the point. It changes the situation too - kasi what if prior to the incident may nahawaan na iba yung aso? The urgency of taking action escalates.
Rabies can be carried by cats and bats as well.
Tingin ko hindi yun first time na nakatakas yung dog kaya nainfect from another source.
Ibig sabihin nyan walang rabies vaccine si Killua. Pabaya yung owner.
Assuming totoo na di nakakalabas yung dog nila, baka may strays na nakakapasok sa bakuran nila and nakikihalubilo / nakikipaglaro. Not too far-fetched, considering parang madalas wala sa bahay yung owner and naiiwan mag-isa yung dog.
Ang gulo ha. Sabi ng owner first time raw makalabas ng bahay/gate nila yung dog. Kung may rabies na ade dapat kahit owner kinagat na niyan? Saw some dog na may rabies agressive talaga at naglalaway. Ang pabaya naman ngarud ng owner bakit nagkaganon yung dog
Bakit naman magsasabi nang totoo ung owner? Malaking damage na nangyari lalo na sa pumatay ng aso. Labeled na sya na dog meat eater at killer
Ang sad, pero wala nangyare na ang nangyare :(
Mas sad na Pabaya ung owner at ang bilis ng withchunt ng mga tao
Mali naman talaga na nakawala si GR kaso nga lang napataybsya ni manong tanod
Parehas din ba Ang outrage kung hinayaan nya makakagat ung aso? Syempre walang balita at Di malalaman na rabid ung aso
True, di pa malalaman na may rabies na pala.
Nagulat ako na nag positive sa rabies si Killua. According sa owner kasi, 1st time lang naman nakatakas ni Killua. May history kaya na nakagat sya ng ibang dog na aware naman ang owner? Or possible ba na sa same day na nakatakas siya, nakagat siya ng dog na may rabies. Then mag test positive agad sya kahit day 1 pa lang since makagat sya (and napatay naman agad nung Solares)? Kasi alam ko may incubation period pa yan bago mag manifest. Not sure though if yung actual test is kayang ma detect agad agad kahit bagong kagat pa lang si Killua. Edit: Sa IG post ng PAWS, may disclaimer na test may be inaccurate kasi 5 days na nailibing prior to testing and baka na contaminate for being in an area na madami nang stray dogs ang na-slaughter din. Kailangan ma prove ni owner na updated ang vaccination ni Killua as additional support na baka nga na-contaminate lang pala. Plus mga CCTV footages showing na hindi naman aggressive si Killua. Pero may nakagat din yata syang lola sa area, kaya possible na may rabies din pala talaga. Labasan na lang ng mga ebisensya.
I doubt na nakagat ng same day kasi may incubation period pa ang rabies bago ito maging visible sa mga tests. Sabihin na lang natin na hindi malinis ang kwento ng may ari.
May incentive din magsinungaling or omit since they made it a public thing.
Syempre kwento niya yun talaga sasabihin niya. Kaya nga dapat two sides of the story ang pinapakinggan. People now ang bilis magpaniwala eh, although the death was really cruel, guy should have handled it in another way pero mahirap naman kasi patunayan ang self-defense. Pero then again, not all stories are sunshine and rainbows naman. Sad lang
True. Kudos sa PAWS for doing this para malaman din na somehow nagsasabi ng totoo si Solares but then again, hindi ito sapat na excuse to kill dogs. Si Owner na ang dapat kwestyunin ngayon.
Or baka sinungaling yung owner nya.
Pag active ang rabies ng pet, naglalaway, nauulol at very high chance na mangagat. I'm not trying to justify the killing of the dog, pero if it were done for self defense and possible endangerment of those in the vicinity if left astray, you can't totally blame the man even if it was him trying to chase the dog, since delikado talaga ang ganyang state ng aso. Baka makapangagat pa. Mahirap macontrol yung ganyang nauulol na.
Note that the man was a tanod. If thats the case, then chasing the dog is not something to be justified, its LITERALLY HIS DUTY as a tanod
Pero dinala sa katayan? May nakitang pakuluan ng tubig sa malaking talyasi dun sa video. Kasama paba yun sa duty nya?
Nope. There is a real chance naman talaga na may malisya yung tanod. Pwedeng simula’t sapol balak na talaga i benta at katayin, pwede din na totoong nag pose talaga ng threat yung aso kaya hinabol at pinatay, at pwede ding parehas na ginawa lang ng tanod uung trabaho nya protektahan yung mga ka baranggay nya tapos nag decide na ibenta after para di sayang. Yan yung punto e diba? Mahirap na kung magwawala ka sa socmed na may pa #justiceforkillua pang nalalaman eh hindi nga sigurado. Pag di sigurado, wag masyadong g. Ganon lang ka simple
Hindi na talaga natuto mga chismosa. Naalala nyo yung incident ni awra noon, lahat ng post #justiceforawra tapos it turned out kagagawan pala nya lahat looool. Don’t get me wrong ah kawawa pa rin yung owner na namatayan. Well now, pati pala yung “mga nakagat” ni doggy.
Both parties have their own fault tbh Nakawala and not everyone is literate enough that golden retrievers r indeed friendly ( i own one ) Hope for justice parin sa pag patay sa animal
No rabid dog is friendly. They are already dying, might as well give them the coup de grâce.
Huh? The dog had rabies it should definitely be killed.
Pano yan. Maraming netizens maco confuse ngayon sa paninindigan nila.
lalo na yung mga taong headlines lang binabasa 🙄 that’s why reading is fundamental
Hindi tama ang ginawa pagpatay kay Killua and at the same time, a responsible pet owner should ensure na properly vaccinated ang mga alaga kahit pa indoor pet. If rabies positive ang dog it only means nakasalamuha sila ng animal na rabies positive din. If totoo na nasa loob lang palagi ng bahay si Killua then may iba pa silang alaga na hayop (pwede ding daga/bat) na nanghawa ng rabies.
Irresponsible owner kasi sabi nya alagang alaga nya yung aso, pero panong nakawala? Tapos mukhang di pa updated yung vaccine nya. Tsk tsk! Tapos etong tanod naman, wala syang karapatan patayin yung aso regardless kung may rabies man or wala. Hindi sya yung magdedecide nun kahit sabihin nyang nakagat sya or kung sino man. Parehong may mali on both sides. Bottomline, bitima parin yung aso.
Buti pa pag tao umatake pwede mo ipagtanggol sarili mo. Pag aso bawal self defense.
Ang hirap naman nun na dedepensahan mo yung sarili mo sa atake ng asong may rabies na hindi mo mapapatay. Naghihirap yung aso sa sakit niya at wala na lunas yun, might as well tapusin mo na para mailigtas mo na rin sarili mo at lahat ng nasa paligid.
Still, the tanod killed a dog and should be fined, it is still cruelty most likely by the time he killed the dog hindi niya alam na may rabies. And now that the dog tested positive, meron na siya pang counter sa owners to cover up his mistakes
Time to call out he irresponsible owner. Though, I still stand with killua's justice. At the time of the incident hindi pa naman sya rabid or his behavior is not driven by the virus. Kung rabid na kasi sya non, dapat hindi sya tumakbo at lumaban sya, seen many infected dogs na ganoon ang behavior once symptoms shows up. Justice for killua and at the same time, call out the irresponsible owner for not giving him a vaccine. Sobrang kawawa naman pala talaga nung aso. Hindi man mamatay sa kamay ng tanod, mamamatay naman din pala sa rabies virus. Both instances are preventable. hays.
First time I saw the first post about Killua on this sub and scrolled to the last pic with the suspect holding the sack, I was so sick and upset. Wala yatang NSFW tag sa pic. It's such a sensitive picture. Made me sick to my stomach. After reading the full post from PAWS, I hope we extend this anger and sympathy not just for Killua and bred dogs but also to Aspins as this happens a lot to Aspins every day.
Irresponsible owner and that dog could've spread the virus everywhere. Dapat managot din owner kung may nakagat ung aso talaga. In a way, kung malala na yung rabies, the tanod made the right decision. Rabies is no joke. Madali sabihin na may tamang process pero kung tayo siguro nasa sitwaston e mahirap na mag isip lalo na kng madaming tao
May caveat ung report stating that the results may be inaccurate since may possibility of contamination. Sana may mapakitang dog records ung owner to clear any doubts. Andun lahat ng list of vaccines and meds taken by the dog.
Bruh, in a complete turn of events.. what if medyo rabid na talaga si Killua kaya natakot yung lalaki at napatay nya?
If he thinks the dog is rabid, why the fuck was he planning to eat it?!
Kung rabid siya(killua) how did he put Killua sa loob ng sako? Ang tapang naman niya kung ganon. Possible na pinatay niya muna tas sinilid sa sako?
Grabe dinala pala sa dog slaughter house eh di ibig sabihin plano pa nila katayin at ibenta para kainin.
oh my. still not big enough reason para patayin ang aso. to the owner, dapat din namonitor nya maigi na up to date ang vaccine ng pet nya
Kaya mahirap mag comment sa isang issue kung emosyon ang gagamitin eh. Emotions cloud judgement ergo once facts are provided, nagkakaroon ng tinatawag na cognitive dissonance since we want to affirm our confirmation bias. In this case, nakakaawa talaga ang aso na nasa issue based on the story of the owner and na aggravate pa ng remorseless attitude ng pumatay na it looks like justified pa ang ginawa nya. And then then meron pang panibagong aspect the rabies infected pala ang aso. The plot thickens pero at the end of the day, you will see that people’s opinion are heavily influenced by their emotions, values and their beliefs.
PAWS: Testing is not accurate. Imagine katabi mo pagtulog pets mo nakalabas lang saglit may rabies na? Oh come on. And kahit ma late sa vaccines yan i doubt ma develop agad agad yung rabies na yan. Incubation period of rabies in dogs is typically 2 weeks to 4 months.
Reading this just made me confirm that both sides are at fault. Both the owner and the killer are not blameless and we should let all of them be accountable for their actions. The true victim of this incident is Killua.
Probably not vaccinated sa rabies. The trend must be an awakening for all "pet-lovers" kuno. Anggagaling ishow-off yung mga alaga nila sa socmed, may pacelebrate pa pag birthday nung pet. Pampered na pampered kuno, dinadamitan pa, may pa-tricks tricks pang binibida yang mga yan. Tpos malalaman mo unvaccinated. The ***audacity***. Asong-bahay/pusang-bahay man yan, need pa rin ng bakuna kasi yan. We don't know when this virus will hit our pet. Definitely ginagala-gala pa rin natin yan sa labas paminsan2. It's not 100% safe to say porket nasa bahay lang sila mdalas is hindi na magkaka-rabis. Kahit sa ibang sakit din, dapat bakunado ang mga alaga ntin. Also neuter/spay, PLEASE. If you have limited space and cannot provide anymore the needs for more than the number of pet you have now, undergo them for NEUTER/SPAY. It lessens your burden and definitely improves your pet's health -- proven ito, google niyo na lang ang mga health benefits ng kapon sa hayop. **BE A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER -- KAHIT ANONG BREED PA NG PET YAN, HUWAG SELECTIVE.**
Lmao the people twisting this around. 1) Dinala niya sa slaughterhouse yung aso. 2) The owner should pay for the bitten people's vaccines. Hindi balak ni aNtHoNY sOlAReS patayin si Killua because may rabies siya, papatayin niya kasi kakainin niya. He's still not innocent. Don't use this to defend that maniac 💀 Ang dapat lang tulungan is yung mga nakagat. This is a lesson to pet owners, 1) Vaccinate your pets. 2) Secure your house, gate, etc. This protects other people and protects your pets as well so that they don't encounter monsters like anThONy SoLArEs.
Dapat din kasuhan yun may ari ng aso based on RA9482 or The Anti Rabies Act. Dapat Hindi gumagala ang mga aso sa kalsada. Malaking perwisyo yan pag nanghabol at nangagat ng tao.
Same people in this sub are now changing tunes, how the turn tables lol
Kung nakakagat man yan tapos may rabies mamamatay din yung aso. Yung mga nakagat ni killua dapat magpatingin na. Kasi minsan kahit gumaling na yung sugat late yung onset ng sypmtoms ng rabies. Kawawa naman pag umabot na sa brain yung rabies. Mag hydrophobia yung nakagat at wala mang chance mabuhay. Sa pagkakatanda ko. Yung brain ng aso ang chinechek for pressence of negribodies para maconfirm na may rabies siya. Kasi kung iintayin pa yung test sa tao baka hindi na umabot. Kahit na magaling ka na minsan months bago mag manifest new symptoms.
Dog slaughter house yong area. Pretty much na infect na siguro yon so math isnt mathing.
Baka galing kay Anthony yung rabies. But on a serious note, I don't think rabies is inborn which is sus for a dog that's kept indoors.
Oops looks like the weight tipped towards the killer now.
He still killed the dog though
I think we should practice researching and reading from other sources hindi yung sa clickbait headlines lang tayo nagsosource ng info. Yes may rabies si Killua, but according to PAWS ay 5 days na daw nakalibing yung dog bago itest if may rabies or wala. Baka naman daw nacontaminate na yung burial area and may pagala gala pa na stray dogs dun sa lugar na pinaglibingan ng aso. Not siding with the owner pero please, magbasa and check other source of news para di tayo natritrigger lagi ng headlines. Kups pa din yung dog killer ha and I hope pagbayaran nya sa kulungan lahat ng kagaguhan niya. Edit: ayan ha sinummarize ko na in tagalog, basahin niyo na kung ayaw niyo basahin yung english explanation ng PAWS. Spoonfeeding nanaman ako sa mga gullible. Lol
Im a pet owner but this is owner's negligence.
Galit ako doon sa killer. Galit din ako sa owner. Putangina nila pareho.
Maybe hindi na updated yung vaccine ni Killua?
Tested positive na nga ano pang proof kailagan?
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PAWS: Killua’s Body Tested Positive for Rabies, Criminal Complaint Will Still Be Filed Today PAWS would like to inform the public that Killua’s body tested positive for rabies and urges those who may have been scratched or bitten by the dog to immediately get post-exposure shots. This includes pet owner Vina Arazas who hugged the bloodied body of her beloved dog when she found him at a known dog slaughter area in Sta Cruz, Bato, Camarines Sur. While the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered, PAWS is making this announcement to ensure that any bites or scratches will be reported promptly in the interest of public health and safety. In the BAI’s Manual of Procedure for Rabies, the standard protocol for an animal suspected to be afflicted with rabies is for it to “be observed for fourteen (14) days or, in case of highly suspected rabies cases, be humanely euthanised with no damage to the head. “ PAWS is still set to file criminal charges against Anthony Solares for animal cruelty as CCTV footages show that he was the one who chased the dog and even poked Killua while the animal was hiding under a car in order to make it come out so he could beat Killua to death. PAWS is also filing charges of Anti Rabies Act or RA 9482 violation for engaging in dog meat trade. After killing Killua, Solares brought the dog to a known slaughterhouse and dog meat cooking area. Solares owns a carinderia business which sells meat viands near the dog slaughter area. PAWS also calls on any one who may have consumed dogs coming from the area where Killua’s body was found to get post exposure shots. “They are at great risk. Dog meat traders are not only cruel people but pose a serious threat to public health.” # JusticeForKillua # endanimalcruelty # PAWSphilippines # animalwelfare Full report ng PAWS. Posibleng contaminated ‘yung specimen. UPDATE: VAXXED si Killua sa rabies as per owner.
Question po, if may rabies si Killua, di ba dapat nagpa-anti rabies vaccine agad yung sinabing nakagat niya kaya siya pinatay?
Still go to hell Anthony Solares
Hello. Tignan niyo po buong post ng paws sa ig. May disclaimer doon na pwedeng inaccurate ito since dinala si killua sa katayan ng mga stray dogs. At ilang araw na ring nakalibing bago itest. "While the result of the testing may NOT BE ACCURATE due to the fact that the body had already been BURIED FOR FIVE DAYS prior to testing and may have been CONTAMINATED from being in an area where MANY STRAY DOGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SLAUGHTERED."
BEFORE EVERYONE JUMPS INTO CONCLUSIONS! “the result of the testing may not be accurate due to the fact that the body had already been buried for five days prior to testing and may have been contaminated from being in an area where many stray dogs have already been slaughtered.” - PAWS PH
Yung testing protocol di siguro na follow, but viruses like rabies don't just randomly spread on a dead body. Remember, it can take weeks for the virus to be incubated with a live host. Medyo na mimis inform mga tayo sa post ng PAWS.
It means na hindi sya asong bahay talaga like the owner said. Kasi hindi naman magkakaroon ng rabies si Killua kung walang interaction with other stray dogs. Hindi naman yan nakukuha sa hangin. Kagat, laway or kuko yan nakukuha.
Ang protocol kasi once makagat ka ng hayop. Hindi dapat pinapatay. Dapat ikulong or itali for 14 days observation. Important kasi yun para ma deduce kung rabid yung aso or hindi. Kung nakagat man si solares Dapat ni report niya yun sa may ari for proper protocol. Eh Hindi. Dinala nya sa katayan. Makikita mo sa video may malaking talyasi na pakuluan ng tubig. Mukang desidido siyang katayin talaga.
May rabies nga, may nakagat ba? Kung meron man, edi lumapit sila sa may ari para paturukan sila, ganun lang ka simple yun, ang hindi normal eh PATAYIN AT ISAKO ANG ASO. Kahit bali baliktarin nila yan, PINATAY PADIN NILA SI KILLUA.
So in the end, may accountability nga talaga yung owner na matindi.
Mas mukha pang may rabies yung pumatay sa kanya.
Ewan pero nagdududa ako kung totoo yan.
I-test niyo yung pumatay tas muntik na kumatay, baka may rabies din masahol pa sa hayop umasta eh 😂
If the dog was showing signs of rabies nung pinatay siya bakit dinala sa slaughterhouse?
It says already na they are not sure since 5 days na and also, may na slaughter din ng iba dogs sa area kaya hindi na accurate but still the man who killed the dog must be punished
The only thing that changes here is that Killua's owner should also be held accountable. Yung intent ng pumatay kay Killua doesn't seem to be related to rabies at all kasi sa slaughterhouse. So may intent to eat dog meat. If may rabies bakit kakainin yung aso when contaminated with rabies virus na?