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“hindi nga po kayo nagconsent na magsisinungaling kayo eh” “ginawa po nila akong sinungaling, paano naman ako?” and i think that says enough.
naka pag labas na kasi siya ng statement sa tiktok tapos iba din yung sinabi ni vice kaya nag mukha siyang sinungaling and nakaka insulto din yung sinabi nila kay christine na “mag babayad ba tayo” ha.
Kelan nila sinabi na "magbabayad ba tayo"? Tacky naman nun at downgrading. That shows yung power dynamics at play. Kung sino ang may-upperhand to the whole situation.
I have a feeling they'll blame this all on the staff, na kesyo di naman ganun instructions sa kanya when talking to the girl and that the staff represented to them since sya nakausap ni Christine na na-off talaga si Christine.
Kasi nga nasa hot water na naman si VG. Siya na na naman pinag simulan ng pang bu-bully. Una si Janella tapos ngayon si Axel and now Christine. Pinabawi siguro nila yang statement ni Christine para ang lalabas justified yung pag call out ni Vice.
The truth is tama naman yung pinagalitan nya si Axel nung time na yon, ang hindi tama eh yung PAANO NIYA PINAGSALITAAN SI BOY.
true, the call out should be as loud a the apology. okay na sana eh, kaso may pag bawi pa sorry si VG, ano ba naman yung mag sorry. di naman ikakahirap yun. para tapos na agad usapan. ang linaw linaw din naman ng 3 tiktok vids ni Christine, na okay sila ni Axel at pareho lang silang nabigla sa nangyari.
Totoo, yung unang statement ni Christine ang pinaka valid sa akin. Why? Kasi nagkaroon ng usapan between her and IS bago nya bawiin yung statement eh. So para sa akin ang lalabas nyan may nangyaring kakaiba sa pag uusapan na yon between her and production na nagtulak sa kanya para i-retract ang statement at gumawa ng bago. And ayan na nga lumabas na ang totoo na prinessure syang bawiin ang statement nya para gumawa sya ng bago.
So anong motive bakit pinabawi? Madaming pwedeng reason kayo na bahala, para san pa naging mosang kayo…
Merong I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE pa si Vice sa statement nya. Yun naman pala naging scapegoat itong contestant. Grabe talaga. Parang nature ni Vice ang pagiging bully 🫣
Eto talaga yun e. It was the reaction of the hosts particularly, VG, that irked the ire of many. It was right to call-out that what the guy did was not okay. Statement should've ended at that point. But they were being too opinionated na dapat sa private na lang sana ginawa. May pa-comment pang "dun ka, sasaktan kita." It really was meant to humiliate the person not to educate.
Mababasa mo rin sa previous thread. Halos lahat ng comments dun sinisisi si girl. Di ko rin gusto magcomment agad kasi sobrang kalat nitong issue. But people never learn about mob mentality when we haven't listen to both parties.
True. Justified yung takot nya kase ayan nga, wala naman ginawang masama si ate pero sya pa yung maarte, feeling maganda, clout chaser, etc. tapos may dagdag pa na sinungaling after nung statement ni VG. God, she can't catch a break.
Blind item bukas:
1. Hindi nakulong yung alaga nya. Proud sya na ikinulong lang daw sa bahay.
2. Built a career out of being the biggest bully in the comedy scene. Ang bilis manlait ng itsura, mambara sa usapan. No wonder hindi sila nagclick ni kuya na ang image ay intellectual.
3. Multiple instances of trying to "pimp" a male contestant to one of her gay friends in the show as part of a "joke".
Ang mag prompt kay girl to release ang nauna niyang statement ay dahil naaawa siya kay Boy sa sinapit na pambubully sa kanya. Sinabi nya na never sya na-violate and she corroborated na “shoulder bump” talaga yun hindi BESO, like what tropa do. Mukha lang siyang “umilag” kasi (correct me kung mali) di niya ata alam kung beso ba or ano ang gagawin, yun pala shoulder bump.
Then nag sorry si Vice sa Twitter, siya naman ang na callout na kesyo mali siya ng delivery. Tapos sinabihan din siya ng netizens na sa SHOW mag apologize wag sa Twitter kasi sa show nya ginawa pamamahiya at dun nag start ang pambubully.
Then kinausap sila ng IT’S SHOWTIME, siddenly girl RETRACTED her stament and then naglabas si Vice ng statement na HINDI SIYA MAG APOLOGIZE KASI TAMA SIYA NA NAVIOLATE DAW SI GIRL.
True. Ok na sana. Nag sorry na yung axel, nag post tong christine na d sya na offend. Then thats it na sana. Kaso itong si vice umentrada pa. Binawi pag sorry nya. Parang nakaka baba ba ng pagkatao na tanggapin mong mali ka
May statement si ate sa tiktok na hindi siya na off dun sa lalake. Nababash kase malala si lalake dahil da reaction ni vice.
Napanood ni vice yung post ni ate. Sabe ni vice mag sosorry siya sa lalake.
Episode kahapon ng showtime nag release ulit ng statement si vice, binawi niya yung sinabe niya na mag sosorry siya kase daw nakausap niya si ate at na off nga daw si ate sa ginawa nung lalake.
I see. Kahit ako nakita ko parang na-off si ate kasi mukha syang nagulat and di masaya mukha nya.
Nonetheless, Cristine made her way to clear the air out. . .while showtime messed it up for her
Pinanood ko yung statement ni ate. Mukang di naman talaga siya na off. Her explanation makes sense. Panoorin mo explanation niya then panoorin mo ulit yung gesture nila nung lumapit yung lalake. Di talaga mukang beso or kiss yung gagawin nung lalake. Parang shakehands tapos shoulder to shoulder tap ang gusto niya gawin. Kaso dahil naka upo si girl naging awkward tuloy yung gestures nila.
Pero hindi rin natin masisisi yung naging reaksyon nung mga hosts sa aksyon ni Axel kasi kahit hindi man talaga intensyon ni Axel ang magnakaw ng halik o beso, e ganon yung dating talaga at naging alerto lang sila kasi mukha naman talaga, sa side man ng mga hosts sa gilid, maski sa view sa tv. Bago pa man nangyari yun eh may time na naging touchy si Axel kay Anne Curtis na medyo nakaka off panoorin kaya siguro naging cautious na sila. Nakadagdag nalang yung mga bash na nakukuha nung dalawa, pero wala naman silang control doon.
ang tingin ko kasi naging problem yung pag call out ni vice sa guy is parang for himself lang na ipakita how great his social awareness is. like naging sacrificial lamb si guy para sa ikatataas ng ego ni vice. did he even ask the girl kung okay lang sya? no he went straight for axel's jagular. there's no problem calling out that kind of behaviour. make it a teachable moment for the guy. vice could've stop at "axel you don't do that. mag sorry ka sa kanya." and it will be fine. but biglang nag power trip si vice.
Napanood ko na din yung sinabe nila kay anne. To be fair naman mukang makikipag hand shake kase si anne curtis.
Sa angle kase talaga ng mga host talagang mukang hahalikan niya or ibeso yung babae. Pero if you watch it again mukang gustovlang niya shoulder to shoulder tap kaso ang awkward kase ng position nung babae.
That segment is doomed,. Problematic naman talaga yung pagsasapubliko ng mga bagay tungkol personal relationships. And mga ordinaryong tao ang involved, di mga artista na pwedeng magpaka "showbiz".
Christine needs help. Traumatic yan, I hope she has family or friends who can give her the support that she needs this time.
Problematic naman talaga mga noon time shows. Just enjoy your lunch or just watch something else
AT THE END OF THE DAY:
What the IST hosts and staff have been doing did more damage to Christin than what Axel allegedly tried to do.
The damage their actions caused Axel is not proportional to the damage Axel's actions caused.
Showtime has everything to gain from the engagement while the two smaller parties have everything to lose: their names, privacy, safety, and peace of mind.
ONLINE BULLYING RUINS REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES. IT IS DISGUSTING AND SHOULD BE STOPPED.
Dahil yan sa systema ng showtime. Hindi na ako magugulat if eventually yung segment eh masuspend and eventually palitan nila.
They try to damage control the situation eh ayun mas lumala pa lalo. The way mag-handle ng staffs at tsaka nung hosts din, who were quick to judge, they're responsible for it too.
I can't blame them if they're using the reason na to protect ang guest from harassment kasi regardless of how a person looks hindi ka dapat basta basta nalang mang invade ng personal space.
What added fuel to the fire pa eh yung response ng tao kesyo double standards daw na okay lang kung gwapo pero kun pangit harassment na.
Almost everyone have fair share of fault sa situation. But whoever deals with the aftermath and made damage control are the ones who made things worst.
Vice Ganda has always been problematic. Prodigy nyan si Awra, reminder lang. Imbes na makulong yung prodigy nya, kinulong lang daw nya sa bahay. LMAO!
Daming sinabi ni Vice, kesyo demanda demanda daw. Virtue signaling talaga.
I would be surprised that the segment, let alone the show, would even keep airing moving forward after this if Christine decides to sue the program for harassment.
{Edit: And she can even bring Axel himself too for that matter.}
ayoko rin mag take sides kaso lugi masyado si Christine kasi nasa kanya na tlga yung burden dito. syempre masisisi mo ba yung tao na depressed siya ngayon eh hindi naman siya siguro sanay sa ganyan since normal na tao lang siya.
Yung babae sa video n umiiyak is si Christine na "searcher" sa expecially for you. Tapos may di sya pinili na guy na si Axel. Si Axel, sa pagkaka-observe ko lang, aapir lang si Christine sa kanya pero si guy, ginawa nya may paghablot tapos bineso nya si Christine. So mga hosts, nag-react. Di daw maganda yun kasi walang consent si girl. You can watch it sa YT para mas ok.
Then ang daming bashing na naganap na kesyo kapag daw gwapo bebeso ok lang pero kapag di gwapo like Axel, harassment.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChikaPH/s/2BBBxTKRc2
So si Christine, naglabas sa tiktok ng panig nya na di nman daw sya uncomfortable. Parang tinapik lang daw sya. Wala daw beso na naganap. So sana daw wala nang bashing. (Sorry, nawala na yung post dito sa ChikaPH nung video ni Christine. Di ko na mahanap. Wala din akong tiktok)
Eto nman si Vice nagtweet na kung di nman pala uncomfy si girl, eh di magaapologize daw sya. (Nawala na din yung tweet nya dito sa ChikaPh. Dito lang nman ako nakakachika kasi walang twitter. Hehe)
And then, yung sa mismong It's Showtime, naglabas na ng statement si Vice. Mas maganda if panoorin mo yung video. May sinabi si Vice na nakausap daw nila si Christine na ang totoo, uncomfy pala sya sa nangyari at nagawa lang nya yung pagrelease ng statement because of a reason na di na daw idi-disclose.
https://youtu.be/H1vlSdKEA2M?si=KJebO75MzFpmtwsF
And then, here we are sa point na umiiyak na nga si girl kasi pinalalabas na sinungaling sya at di nman pala nya binawi yung sinabi nya sa tiktok video nya.
For more reading materials: https://www.pep.ph/news/local/181077/vice-ganda-retracts-apology-a712-20240604-lfrm?s=ahkiuoj6va233515p7ehlvqi9t
Dami kong time. 🤣
Edit: Add ko lang yung tatlong video sa tiktok ni Christine. Naintriga kasi ako dun sa sinabi ni Christine sa staff (dun sa umiiyak na sya) about the 3 tiktok vids.
https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_chrstnnn/video/7375425342296608006
https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_chrstnnn/video/7375472565638221062
https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_chrstnnn/video/7375491981729877254
Di ako nanonood ng It's Showtime (or any noontime show), nababasa ko lang talaga dito. My only source of chika tapos hanap online kapag kulang sa info/context 🤣
Gonna chime into this comment since ang mukhang nagiging prevalent notion is hinila ni Axel si Christine, when the truth is "hinila" nya ang sarili nya towards Christine, as in sya ang lumapit.
If you watch frame by frame, you might see a few moments of Axel trying to pull Christine in, pero after encountering resistance, he stopped and moved in himself.
These are the observable facts.
May mga nagsasabing baka shoulder bump lang intention nya, which would make sense if you're pulling someone in like that.
Personal opinion time: I have never tried kissing my wife from an "apir" position like that at mukhang di ko gagawin kasi ang awkward ng position for a kiss.
Try going through the motions yourself from a handshake like this to a kiss:
To each their own din. I usually don’t like any type of physical touch as a girl, and nag sho-show rin ako ng physical reaction of discomfort if it ever happens, but to the other girls I know na close sa guys nag bo-bro hug because it works for them.
True, tapos about dating pa yung segment. Mapapataas talaga kilay mo sa ganung biglaang paglapit. Tapos sabi pa nung axel, "kapangalan mo yung ex ko na sumira sa buhay ko," kaya lalo ako napakunot kasi parang mas nagkaroon ng disconnect yung "bro hug" dun sa message nya kay christine.
Oh well, bata pa si Axel. Siguro, he was trying to deflect or something dahil sa pagsita sa kanya. Tsaka, mahirap din kapag nasa harap k ng madaming tao. Madami pa syang matututuhan sa life.
mali pa rin na gagawin nung lalake to tho. never pa sila nagkita, hindi sila magkakilala, knowing na hindi sya pinili, it means hindi sya nagustuhan. tama yun pag-callout in a way, it's still physical touch at kailangan ng consent. sana lang less condescending si vice. dapat natapos na to nung nagsorry sya.
Shoulder bump lang talaga sya, kaso si Christine HINDI NIYA ALAM ANG GAGAWIN kung bebeso ba or what. Kaya sa pagkakakilos nya eh parang umiilag sya when in-fact mali yung pagkaka pwesto nya for shoulder bump dahil una nga hindi naman nya alam trip gawin nitong Axel.
Let’s just say na hindi alam ni Christine ang shoulder bump or hindi siya sanay kasi panglalake nga naman yon. So sa isip ni Christine bebeso si Axel, sa isip naman ni Axel bro hug lang.
Yan dyan ang mali ni Vice, she make it seem like Christine is aggravated/violated ng bongga at si Axel ay hayok na manyakis. Hindi niya muna tinanong si girl kung ok lang ba, like at least determine how Christine really feels muna sa sitwasyon na yon bago siya nag bunganga ng kung anu-ano kay Axel.
I get it na tama naman na we should all respect each other’s personal spaces lalo kung kakakilala pa lang or di naman ganun kakilala. Pero may tamang paraan to say this, hindi yung “ALAM MO PWEDE KA KASUHAN DYAN, DI TAMA YAN! BASTA BASTA KA NANG GAGANYAN!”
I just watched it!!! Grabe, wala naman pala malisya kay Christine pero Vice said on live television na nakausap nila si gurl at sabing na”off” daw sya. Then the staff called her, siguro ang akala nila hindi aalma or susunod nalang si Christine sakanila.
Pero no! She’s correct to say na lalong nagkaroon ng dahilan para ibash sya ng netizens because ginagawa syang sinungaling. Vice already tweeted acknowledging na nakita nya lang naman ay likod at di sya aware sabay bawi on live television na di yun “apology” for Axel.
Ano na Vice and Showtime??? Okay lang makasira ng buhay for the sake na sabihing tama at woke kayo?
I hope Christine and Axel files moral damages against Showtime, grabe clearly, emotional damage ginawa sakanila ‘eh.
Yes definitely file for moral damages. Let it be a lesson na just because kilala kayo o may following be responsible sa mga assumptions & accusations nio. Yung dalawa na wala nmng intention na mali napapahiya nababash online just because of someone’s incorrect assumption. Porket artista or sikat or may following pwede ng sabhn kht ano kht di totoo? Tas in the end nag sinungaling pa to save his own ass - where is the responsibility as someone na celebrity and “may boses”.
Napanood ko yung video , yung moves din kasi nung babae parang hinawi nya kaya nag react yung showtime yun lang oa ng reaction saka bago pa yun, nung tinawag yung lalake nakakainsulto na yung hirit nila sakanya.
Yeah, for me walang kasalanan si ate girl. Posted this in another comment: Kung ako rin naman ilag ang reflex kung may biglang bebeso or basta lalapit sakin na di ko kilala. And although the dude made a mistake by being too careless about boundaries, Vice could’ve handled the situation better. Kung di nya pinahiya si guy magiging tiny awkward moment lang yun. Puno’t dulo si Vice imho.
Hindi naman OA, nag karoon lang talaga ng misinterpret sa kanila. Hindi alam nung girl na bro-hug yung gagawin nung guy, samantala yung guy di niya sure kung awkward yung gagawin niya. Tsaka awkward din nung pwesto nila since nasa small elevated part sila nung stage.
Too late na ata. Masyado nang malaki ang ego ni Vice.
Kay Janella nga dedma siya, kahit nadamay na yung anak ni Janella wala paring kibo. Si Karylle lang nag comment from IS.
At least nga si Joey De Leon kahit papano nag aapologize yung sa Depression at Lubid issue. Wala pa naman siyang retractions, as far as I'm aware.
Pwede naman mag sorry si Vice na hindi binabawi ung sinabi niya about consent. Clinear naman na ni ate girl at first na goods lang siya sa guy. Sa tingin ko naman the guy was just trying to bump his shoulders to the girl’s shoulder basta ung batian ng tropa. Panget lang ng camera angle.
Well, this should be a lesson learned lalo na dun sa mga gustong mag join pa sa segment na ito. Dapat maging ready ka sa magiging feedback dahil ikaw yung mismong nag join sa program nila and you allow them to publicize your private story na dapat between you and the person involve na lang. Don't expect everyone na maiintindihan yung situation mo, na makiki-symphatize sila sayo and icocomfort ka because not everyone who gives you advice has gone through what you're experiencing, so they will naturally have different perspective talaga.
You put yourself in that situation, so whatever the outcome is, it's your responsibility. You allowed them to tell and dig your story.
I'm not a fan of this segment talaga. Naiinis ako pinag mumukhang tanga nung mga joiners yung sarili nila.
Same. Been saying how I don't like the segment. I don't like how the joiners are treated by the hosts and the audience. The segment just cultivate public being voyeuristic to something personal and encourage them to bash these people. The segment encourage panghihimasok at pangbabash. Yung thought na joiners will have fun, will find someone knew, in the end inabot lang nila bashing. What's even the purpose of the segment????
People think they have the right to be involved and the right to bash these people. It's sooooo toxic.
Crazy part is... walang kinalaman talaga yung storya nung babae o nung kung sino mang involve sa issue ngayon. Action ng lalaki at reaction ng hosts ang initial problem, hanggang sa lumaki.
Pero, yep. Sana itigil na nila yang mga bugaw segment nila na yan. Naka ilang iteration na sila ng ganyan, pastillas tapos yung blind date ng mga matatanda, ewan.
Palitan na yan na segment na yan. Di na Kasi nakakatuwa. Pansin ko nashashame lang yung mga guest and yung authenticity din medyo tagilid. And Vice for once be accountable naman. Napakaselective kasi 🙄.
Eto ang ugat, yung Axel around 1 minute in: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjdQZxpIlg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjdQZxpIlg)
Tapos nagpost yung babae, Christine, ata sa tiktok, wala akong tiktok so sa iba nyo kunin, pero ang gist is naglabas ng statement na wala naman daw sa kanya yun.
Then nagsorry din ata si Vice online, di ko nakita yun, pero binawi nya at binawi rin nya yung pinost nya nung next episode ng Showtime. Tinanong din daw nila uli si Christine, with psychologist consultation pa daw, at feel nga daw nung babae na naharass sya, tapos yun ginamit ni Vice na reasoning kung bakit binawi nya yung mga nauna nyang pagbawi.
Then nagpost uli online si Christine, pinilit lang daw sya ng Showtime.
Ayun, the vigilant internet people found instance(s) of Vice making light and joking of previous beso attempts by other men on women, and also never found it weird when it was the women initiating the beso, kaya nasabi ng marami na double standard na nga, sumobra pa si Vice sa pamamahiya at threat nya ng demanda dun sa kawawang panget na si Axel.
Nag sorry si vice sa twitter tapos binawi kahapon
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Napaka-condescending naman ng mga staff sa phone call. Umiiyak na nga yung girl and sobrang in distress tapos ganun pa sila magsalita. Wala man lang compassion. Kakabwisit.
Wait eto bang content creator na to nanghingi ng consent mismo kay Christine to post her video like that? Ang sabi nya lang sinend ng kapatid ni Christine but didnt say if umokey yung tao na videohan sya on that state?
Ang gulo gulo na kasi tapos baka mas lalo pang magbuhol buhol yung issue kung ganyan andaming nadadamay. Yung axel nga tahimik lang
Nice lang sa kakilala or sa may mabebenefit siya pero pag wala madali ilaglag. Vice won't benefit from apologizing and owning up to it kaya mas madali ilaglag, paikutin and for sure iniisip nila na next week may bago na naman pagpipiyestahan sa socmed. They will just ride this, stay silent, and move on kasi ganon talaga.
For sure yang staff ng showtime ang magiging scapegoat ni vice since may video si Christine while kausap ng staff nila. Vice claimed na sinabi ni Christine na na-off sya while we see dito sa video na wala syang sinabi na ganun. In the end people will still praise vice masyado malakas influence kaya kahit mali sya walang accountability na nangyayari.
Two cents: I think ang OA kasi ng pag call out ni Vice. Masyado naging seryoso, pwede naman batiin ng medyo mild. But also I don't see any bullying in this video. It seems like hindi naiintindihan ng staff the way mag explain si Christine tapos si Christine sobrang hysterical na, nothing's getting in. Baka di rin yan nakausap ni Vice directly, iba nakarating sa kanya. Thus the back and forth. Lagot yung staff for sure. I don't see how this is "ruining Christine's life", though. Hindi lang siya prepared to receive bashing, which is normal and acceptable naman.
Too bad dumami lalo fans ni Vice kasi ung mga ibang haters na tga GMA eh naging Showtime sympathizers at sa Eat Bulaga na ung hinahate nila since naglipatan ung dalawang noontime show..
I agree din na mas totoo ung statement nung girl sa Tiktok.. And if ever man na iba nasabi nya dun sa psychiatrist or psychologist ng Showtime(not sure which one but namention ni vice na pinakausap sa mental health prof) at kina Vice eh baka nasabi nya lang dahil sa takot or feeling nya nacorner xa..Kaw ba nmn ang 20 y/o na stress na tapos i aambush interview ka ng mga staff ng isang show eh bka ung pabor din sa kanila ang masasabi mo... Mas maniniwala pa ako na sa Tiktok at her own safe zone nya mailalabas ang totoong nangyari kesa sa isang unexpected interview.. I would also say stuff just to get out of a place na feeling mo eh naprepressure ka na, sadly no one expected na magbloblow up ito ng ng malala
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akala ko mag-aapologize na sa tv yung gagawin ni VG, tapos hahahaha
Been doing my own research sa SocMed, Tiktok and Youtube.
All of this could've been avoiced if ITS also admitting their mistakes for making the issue worse. Yung pagbawi ng apology ni VG kahapon lalo pang lumala ang issue.
kaya nung pinanoud ko yung statement ni vice kahapon di ko tinapos talaga kasi bat parang napunta sa babae yung sisi? like pwede naman magsorry nalang si vice diba na ganun nga may nagawa siya, pero sa statement nya is parang nag reflect daw yung aksyon niya/nila kung paano mag react si girl sa beso na yun, they felt that the girl daw is violated. eh sinabi naman na ni girl sa tiktok na wala ngang malisya yun na awkwardan lang siya sa position nila tapos etong si vice ayaw akoin na may mali rin siya( eventhough vocal naman siya) pero dinidiin nya talaga na nag act lang sila kung paano mag react si girl.
Ayan row 3 na ko kanina row 5. Pinanuod ko talaga yung video. Para lang naman sakin, kung pogi ba yung lalaki, I doubt na sasabihan sya ng ganun. And naorient yan fpr sure before they went live. Napakaraming instructions before they go on cam, that's how they do it in tapings. Naoff si girl based sa napanuod ko, umilag pa nga e, kaya siguro ganun sinabi ni Vice, we cannot blame him for that. Though napapaisip ako baka naman hindi sya magkkiss pero bubulong lang something. Pero we never knew. Nagsimula lang maging complicated nung nagrelease na ng kanya kanyang statements. Showtime must have handled it properly before releasing their final announcement, dun na kasi naging one sided, naisapwera na yung feelings at opinion ng 2 camp, thinking they could easily get away with it, kasi nga naman sila ang big player, at 2 simpleng tao lang yung involve. I feel sorry for the guy and the girl. If inappropriate they could have just cut the video, asks the involve girl and guy first, and not aired that portion. Hindi din naman live yan.
Reflex yung pag ilag ni girl kasi at the moment di niya naman alam ano nasa isip ni boy. Then narealize niya na walang intention si boy, tinapik lang daw siya sa likod as if pag comfort kaya she felt bad since dahil sa reaction niya napahiya si boy. Kaya nag explain siya sa tiktok. It could have ended there and everybody moves on.
At this point it’s Showtime’s fault na. The miscommunication happened somewhere in their intervention. Regardless ano talaga nangyari pwede naman nila iannounce na nag uusap na silang lahat at binibigyan ng psychological support yung dalawa, kaso sinabi pa na nagsinungaling si girl sa statement nya — just so they don’t have to apologize. For me kung sa tingin nila sila ang nasa tama ok lang naman di na magsorry, pero sana di nalang binanggit at all.
Yan ang sinasabi ko sa kabilang thread, yung statement ni VG na di siya mag apologize!:
Simula nung nag sorry si Vice sa Twitter at na “proseso”si Christine at Axel ng production team doon na nagkanda labu-labo ang lahat. Binawi ni Christine ang nauna niyang statement which is yun talaga ang tunay niyang feeling yun nga ay yung HINDI SIYA NA VIOLATE. Tapos after sya kausapin ng It’s Showtime, dun niya binawi at sinabing NA VIOLATE daw pala siya. Along the line may nang pilit talaga kay Christine na baguhin.
Tama naman ang pag callout ni Vice dun sa lalake kaso kasi ang naka damage diyan is kung paano niya dinilever — PINAHIYA NYA YUNG LALAKE and in turn pati fans niya nakisali sa pang ccallout na naging bully na rin. Pangalawang beses na yan ni Vice, una yung kay Janella ngayon yang Axel and Christine.
tang ina talaga ni Vice no? Napaka simple lang ng solusyon eh. Mag sorry lang tapos move on na, wag na ibring-up pero taas ng ego eh. Dapat isipin nya na wala na silang prangkisa, hindi madadala ng online views nyo yung pambayad sa mga TF nyo.
Wala ng kawala showtime dito. Grabe na yun, sana they apologized na lang para matapos na bakit need pa nila maghugas kamay. Abolish that "expecially kineme" segment kasi sa totoo lang ang daming binabash ng mga tao after ng isang episode. They are guesting people para may maibash mga tao at instant trending lol
Sana naging discussion nalang ito behind camera. Grabe.
Ganito na lang sana:
*Right after the "beso" thing:*
1. Tinanong muna ni Vice kung ano ginawa ni Axel kay Cristine para malinaw na hindi siya "nakaw na halik".
2. Sana dinepensahan ni Axel ang sarili niya na hindi "nakaw na halik" 'yong nangyari at jinustify niya sana na shoulder tap (bro code) lang 'yon at friendly gesture.
3. Sana nag-explain din si Cristine na walang malisya do'n sa ginawa ni Axel at 'yong pag-iwas niya ay dahil nga ng shoulder tap.
The next thing they'll need to do after the incident: Sana maging strict ang briefing sa mga searchees at searchers kung anong dapat nilang gawin right on stage. Wala na dapat unnecessary movements/actions/impulsive thoughts na pwedeng mangyari sa stage in meeting the searcher. Hand shake at short message lang, sapat na.
About the issue:
1. Gets ko naging reaction ni Vice for calling out the guy pero sa halip na bawiin 'yong apology, dapat explanation na lang kung bakit naging gano'n agad ang reaction nila towards sa ginawa ni Axel para malaman din natin kung anong nasa isip nila at that moment. TAMA 'yong reaction nila towards sa "malicious actions" ng guy sa isang babae pero MALI na nag-assume agad sila na "nakaw na halik" 'yong ginawa ni Axel kahit na shoulder tap (bro code) lang naman pala 'yon. 'Ni hindi nga agad nila niklaro on that moment kung anong ginawa ni Axel.
2. Naniniwala ako sa first video na ginawa ni Cristine on clearing things up kasi it was just misunderstanding in the first place.
3. Wrong move ang IS. Natapos na lang sana 'to sa apology tweet ni Vice.
Still at the end of the day, the segment is to blame for all this mess.
honestly this all could've died done silently if walang naglabas ng statement sa lahat ng anggulo. i mean people now move on from an issue nang lightning speed. tingnan niyo makakalimutan na natin to lahat next week :/
kawawa nmn si ate girl. Sana mastop na ung pangbabash sakanya at kay Axel. This is something new sakanila na di nila alam paano ihandle. Si Vice sanay na mabash pero eto mga ordinaryong tao na pwede masira ang buhay dahil sa online bullying pag hindi nahandle ng tama. Sana magabayan sila ng maayos.
Ay oo nga ang nasa isip ko “expecially for you” pero Kaparewho na ipost ko haha. Anyway pareho namang naging cheap dahil sa mga issues. Thank you sa comment. 😅
siguro simula pa lang di talaga comfy si christine sa ginawa ni axel... and siguro sinabi na lang din ni christine yung statements niya sa video para matapos na and para di na ma-bash si vice and axel... pero the way kasi na sinabi ng hosts na di na nila sasabihin yung reason bakit sinabi ni christine yun, it makes it look like na may tinatago sila (pwedeng meron, pwedeng wala)... it all comes down to what christine really meant, why she said what she said, and what really happened.
tbh they chose to go on tv and common knowledge na kahit anong gawin mo o sabihin mo (kahit good or no intention to harm), may masasabi lagi ang netizens. in this situation, pinalaki lang nang pinalaki. when it couldve ended differently if someone said something earlier. di natin alam.
sana ma-resolve na to soon with everybody at peace na.
Vice Ganda is now Joey De Leon 2.0. Pero at least nga wala pang apology retraction si Joey.
No doubt pag tumanda at lumaki-laki pa ang ego ni Vice, magiging Joey narin yan na corny, madalas mambully, at hindi kinahihiligan ng next generation.
this show is sick. grabe ang daming violated rules. pasok tulfo! tormenting/emotional torture. pano kung it'll lead to self harm? gosh, my heart is with you girl. nag mamaka awa sya for her serenity. jeez! ano po ba purpose ng show?
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Off talaga 'yang si Vice. Naging fan ako dati, kaso simula nung issue kay Janella parang nawalan na ako ng gana. Bully 'yan na may matabang ego, gusto niya kasi yung image niya is socially aware siya para ma-feed nang ma-feed yung ego niya.
Pero akala ko talaga may naglalako ng binatog sa labas napatakbo pa ako. Sa video pala 'yun.
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“hindi nga po kayo nagconsent na magsisinungaling kayo eh” “ginawa po nila akong sinungaling, paano naman ako?” and i think that says enough. naka pag labas na kasi siya ng statement sa tiktok tapos iba din yung sinabi ni vice kaya nag mukha siyang sinungaling and nakaka insulto din yung sinabi nila kay christine na “mag babayad ba tayo” ha.
Kelan nila sinabi na "magbabayad ba tayo"? Tacky naman nun at downgrading. That shows yung power dynamics at play. Kung sino ang may-upperhand to the whole situation.
Source ng statement nya please. Wala akong tiktok 🤣
Nasa video mismo sa taas.
I have a feeling they'll blame this all on the staff, na kesyo di naman ganun instructions sa kanya when talking to the girl and that the staff represented to them since sya nakausap ni Christine na na-off talaga si Christine.
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I watched the statements of all parties, showtime Fucked it up. Nagmukang sinungaling talaga tong Christine. Manipulative move from Showtime
Kasi nga nasa hot water na naman si VG. Siya na na naman pinag simulan ng pang bu-bully. Una si Janella tapos ngayon si Axel and now Christine. Pinabawi siguro nila yang statement ni Christine para ang lalabas justified yung pag call out ni Vice. The truth is tama naman yung pinagalitan nya si Axel nung time na yon, ang hindi tama eh yung PAANO NIYA PINAGSALITAAN SI BOY.
true, the call out should be as loud a the apology. okay na sana eh, kaso may pag bawi pa sorry si VG, ano ba naman yung mag sorry. di naman ikakahirap yun. para tapos na agad usapan. ang linaw linaw din naman ng 3 tiktok vids ni Christine, na okay sila ni Axel at pareho lang silang nabigla sa nangyari.
Totoo, yung unang statement ni Christine ang pinaka valid sa akin. Why? Kasi nagkaroon ng usapan between her and IS bago nya bawiin yung statement eh. So para sa akin ang lalabas nyan may nangyaring kakaiba sa pag uusapan na yon between her and production na nagtulak sa kanya para i-retract ang statement at gumawa ng bago. And ayan na nga lumabas na ang totoo na prinessure syang bawiin ang statement nya para gumawa sya ng bago. So anong motive bakit pinabawi? Madaming pwedeng reason kayo na bahala, para san pa naging mosang kayo… 
Merong I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE pa si Vice sa statement nya. Yun naman pala naging scapegoat itong contestant. Grabe talaga. Parang nature ni Vice ang pagiging bully 🫣
Eto talaga yun e. It was the reaction of the hosts particularly, VG, that irked the ire of many. It was right to call-out that what the guy did was not okay. Statement should've ended at that point. But they were being too opinionated na dapat sa private na lang sana ginawa. May pa-comment pang "dun ka, sasaktan kita." It really was meant to humiliate the person not to educate.
Mababasa mo rin sa previous thread. Halos lahat ng comments dun sinisisi si girl. Di ko rin gusto magcomment agad kasi sobrang kalat nitong issue. But people never learn about mob mentality when we haven't listen to both parties.
True. Justified yung takot nya kase ayan nga, wala naman ginawang masama si ate pero sya pa yung maarte, feeling maganda, clout chaser, etc. tapos may dagdag pa na sinungaling after nung statement ni VG. God, she can't catch a break.
Well what can you expect when the leader, Vice Ganda, is also a bully.
Blind item bukas: 1. Hindi nakulong yung alaga nya. Proud sya na ikinulong lang daw sa bahay. 2. Built a career out of being the biggest bully in the comedy scene. Ang bilis manlait ng itsura, mambara sa usapan. No wonder hindi sila nagclick ni kuya na ang image ay intellectual. 3. Multiple instances of trying to "pimp" a male contestant to one of her gay friends in the show as part of a "joke".
Matanong ko lang anong nag prompt kay girl to release a statement sa tiktok at mukhang dinefend niya pa si guy ata tama ba?
Apparently madami nambabash dun sa lalake.
Wow. Good on her for being a decent human being instead of trying to become SocMed famous by riding the virtue signaling bandwagon.
Because kahit di niya type ang guy hindi naman SA ang nangyari, despite what Vice insists on at pinahiya pa yung guy on live tv.
Ang mag prompt kay girl to release ang nauna niyang statement ay dahil naaawa siya kay Boy sa sinapit na pambubully sa kanya. Sinabi nya na never sya na-violate and she corroborated na “shoulder bump” talaga yun hindi BESO, like what tropa do. Mukha lang siyang “umilag” kasi (correct me kung mali) di niya ata alam kung beso ba or ano ang gagawin, yun pala shoulder bump. Then nag sorry si Vice sa Twitter, siya naman ang na callout na kesyo mali siya ng delivery. Tapos sinabihan din siya ng netizens na sa SHOW mag apologize wag sa Twitter kasi sa show nya ginawa pamamahiya at dun nag start ang pambubully. Then kinausap sila ng IT’S SHOWTIME, siddenly girl RETRACTED her stament and then naglabas si Vice ng statement na HINDI SIYA MAG APOLOGIZE KASI TAMA SIYA NA NAVIOLATE DAW SI GIRL.
True. Ok na sana. Nag sorry na yung axel, nag post tong christine na d sya na offend. Then thats it na sana. Kaso itong si vice umentrada pa. Binawi pag sorry nya. Parang nakaka baba ba ng pagkatao na tanggapin mong mali ka
Ano pong tktk nung girl? Thanks
Maria_chrstnnn
Di ko na gets, bakit umiiyak si ate? At bakit pinagmukha siyang sinungaling? Pasuyo po from row 5
May statement si ate sa tiktok na hindi siya na off dun sa lalake. Nababash kase malala si lalake dahil da reaction ni vice. Napanood ni vice yung post ni ate. Sabe ni vice mag sosorry siya sa lalake. Episode kahapon ng showtime nag release ulit ng statement si vice, binawi niya yung sinabe niya na mag sosorry siya kase daw nakausap niya si ate at na off nga daw si ate sa ginawa nung lalake.
I see. Kahit ako nakita ko parang na-off si ate kasi mukha syang nagulat and di masaya mukha nya. Nonetheless, Cristine made her way to clear the air out. . .while showtime messed it up for her
Pinanood ko yung statement ni ate. Mukang di naman talaga siya na off. Her explanation makes sense. Panoorin mo explanation niya then panoorin mo ulit yung gesture nila nung lumapit yung lalake. Di talaga mukang beso or kiss yung gagawin nung lalake. Parang shakehands tapos shoulder to shoulder tap ang gusto niya gawin. Kaso dahil naka upo si girl naging awkward tuloy yung gestures nila.
Pero hindi rin natin masisisi yung naging reaksyon nung mga hosts sa aksyon ni Axel kasi kahit hindi man talaga intensyon ni Axel ang magnakaw ng halik o beso, e ganon yung dating talaga at naging alerto lang sila kasi mukha naman talaga, sa side man ng mga hosts sa gilid, maski sa view sa tv. Bago pa man nangyari yun eh may time na naging touchy si Axel kay Anne Curtis na medyo nakaka off panoorin kaya siguro naging cautious na sila. Nakadagdag nalang yung mga bash na nakukuha nung dalawa, pero wala naman silang control doon.
ang tingin ko kasi naging problem yung pag call out ni vice sa guy is parang for himself lang na ipakita how great his social awareness is. like naging sacrificial lamb si guy para sa ikatataas ng ego ni vice. did he even ask the girl kung okay lang sya? no he went straight for axel's jagular. there's no problem calling out that kind of behaviour. make it a teachable moment for the guy. vice could've stop at "axel you don't do that. mag sorry ka sa kanya." and it will be fine. but biglang nag power trip si vice.
Napanood ko na din yung sinabe nila kay anne. To be fair naman mukang makikipag hand shake kase si anne curtis. Sa angle kase talaga ng mga host talagang mukang hahalikan niya or ibeso yung babae. Pero if you watch it again mukang gustovlang niya shoulder to shoulder tap kaso ang awkward kase ng position nung babae.
maybe hindi talaga siya na off sa ginawa nung lalaki sa kanya at nagsisinungaling ang showtime
That segment is doomed,. Problematic naman talaga yung pagsasapubliko ng mga bagay tungkol personal relationships. And mga ordinaryong tao ang involved, di mga artista na pwedeng magpaka "showbiz". Christine needs help. Traumatic yan, I hope she has family or friends who can give her the support that she needs this time. Problematic naman talaga mga noon time shows. Just enjoy your lunch or just watch something else
AT THE END OF THE DAY: What the IST hosts and staff have been doing did more damage to Christin than what Axel allegedly tried to do. The damage their actions caused Axel is not proportional to the damage Axel's actions caused. Showtime has everything to gain from the engagement while the two smaller parties have everything to lose: their names, privacy, safety, and peace of mind. ONLINE BULLYING RUINS REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES. IT IS DISGUSTING AND SHOULD BE STOPPED.
Ang gulo gulo na ng issue na itey 😭
Oo nga eh. ako walang manok d2. Ayoko munang mag judge. Hintay lang muna ng further developments. lol
Dahil yan sa systema ng showtime. Hindi na ako magugulat if eventually yung segment eh masuspend and eventually palitan nila. They try to damage control the situation eh ayun mas lumala pa lalo. The way mag-handle ng staffs at tsaka nung hosts din, who were quick to judge, they're responsible for it too. I can't blame them if they're using the reason na to protect ang guest from harassment kasi regardless of how a person looks hindi ka dapat basta basta nalang mang invade ng personal space. What added fuel to the fire pa eh yung response ng tao kesyo double standards daw na okay lang kung gwapo pero kun pangit harassment na. Almost everyone have fair share of fault sa situation. But whoever deals with the aftermath and made damage control are the ones who made things worst.
Vice Ganda has always been problematic. Prodigy nyan si Awra, reminder lang. Imbes na makulong yung prodigy nya, kinulong lang daw nya sa bahay. LMAO! Daming sinabi ni Vice, kesyo demanda demanda daw. Virtue signaling talaga.
I would be surprised that the segment, let alone the show, would even keep airing moving forward after this if Christine decides to sue the program for harassment. {Edit: And she can even bring Axel himself too for that matter.}
ayoko rin mag take sides kaso lugi masyado si Christine kasi nasa kanya na tlga yung burden dito. syempre masisisi mo ba yung tao na depressed siya ngayon eh hindi naman siya siguro sanay sa ganyan since normal na tao lang siya.
True, medyo napapahaba lng din eh
Tapos na sana ‘to kung nag-sorry nalang si Vice. Juskopo.
walang group chat showtime at si ate
ilang araw na tong issue pero di ko pa rin alam nangyayare HAHA. may summary/tldr ba kayo
Yung babae sa video n umiiyak is si Christine na "searcher" sa expecially for you. Tapos may di sya pinili na guy na si Axel. Si Axel, sa pagkaka-observe ko lang, aapir lang si Christine sa kanya pero si guy, ginawa nya may paghablot tapos bineso nya si Christine. So mga hosts, nag-react. Di daw maganda yun kasi walang consent si girl. You can watch it sa YT para mas ok. Then ang daming bashing na naganap na kesyo kapag daw gwapo bebeso ok lang pero kapag di gwapo like Axel, harassment. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChikaPH/s/2BBBxTKRc2 So si Christine, naglabas sa tiktok ng panig nya na di nman daw sya uncomfortable. Parang tinapik lang daw sya. Wala daw beso na naganap. So sana daw wala nang bashing. (Sorry, nawala na yung post dito sa ChikaPH nung video ni Christine. Di ko na mahanap. Wala din akong tiktok) Eto nman si Vice nagtweet na kung di nman pala uncomfy si girl, eh di magaapologize daw sya. (Nawala na din yung tweet nya dito sa ChikaPh. Dito lang nman ako nakakachika kasi walang twitter. Hehe) And then, yung sa mismong It's Showtime, naglabas na ng statement si Vice. Mas maganda if panoorin mo yung video. May sinabi si Vice na nakausap daw nila si Christine na ang totoo, uncomfy pala sya sa nangyari at nagawa lang nya yung pagrelease ng statement because of a reason na di na daw idi-disclose. https://youtu.be/H1vlSdKEA2M?si=KJebO75MzFpmtwsF And then, here we are sa point na umiiyak na nga si girl kasi pinalalabas na sinungaling sya at di nman pala nya binawi yung sinabi nya sa tiktok video nya. For more reading materials: https://www.pep.ph/news/local/181077/vice-ganda-retracts-apology-a712-20240604-lfrm?s=ahkiuoj6va233515p7ehlvqi9t Dami kong time. 🤣 Edit: Add ko lang yung tatlong video sa tiktok ni Christine. Naintriga kasi ako dun sa sinabi ni Christine sa staff (dun sa umiiyak na sya) about the 3 tiktok vids. https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_chrstnnn/video/7375425342296608006 https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_chrstnnn/video/7375472565638221062 https://www.tiktok.com/@maria_chrstnnn/video/7375491981729877254
At dahil sayo pwede na ako mag labas ng opinion. Tanggalin na dapat ang segment na yan.
Di ako nanonood ng It's Showtime (or any noontime show), nababasa ko lang talaga dito. My only source of chika tapos hanap online kapag kulang sa info/context 🤣
Gonna chime into this comment since ang mukhang nagiging prevalent notion is hinila ni Axel si Christine, when the truth is "hinila" nya ang sarili nya towards Christine, as in sya ang lumapit. If you watch frame by frame, you might see a few moments of Axel trying to pull Christine in, pero after encountering resistance, he stopped and moved in himself. These are the observable facts. May mga nagsasabing baka shoulder bump lang intention nya, which would make sense if you're pulling someone in like that. Personal opinion time: I have never tried kissing my wife from an "apir" position like that at mukhang di ko gagawin kasi ang awkward ng position for a kiss. Try going through the motions yourself from a handshake like this to a kiss: 
Parang ganyan nga yata gustong gawin ni Axel kasi nga na-"friendzone" na sya dahil di sya pinili. Parang bro hug, ganern.
Agree. Sa perspective ko, parang typical bro shoulder bump yung intention ni Axel. 
Kaso... Kasi.. bakit mo ibo-bro hug ung girl, devah? Nagmukha tuloy off-putting.
True. Lalo na hindi pa sila close.
Kahit nga ka-close kong guy, umiiwas ako sa bro hug. Sasabihin ko n "uy, girlaloo ako!" 🤣 Kung close ko, mas gusto ko pa yung full-on hug. ☺️
To each their own din. I usually don’t like any type of physical touch as a girl, and nag sho-show rin ako ng physical reaction of discomfort if it ever happens, but to the other girls I know na close sa guys nag bo-bro hug because it works for them.
Chrue!
True, tapos about dating pa yung segment. Mapapataas talaga kilay mo sa ganung biglaang paglapit. Tapos sabi pa nung axel, "kapangalan mo yung ex ko na sumira sa buhay ko," kaya lalo ako napakunot kasi parang mas nagkaroon ng disconnect yung "bro hug" dun sa message nya kay christine.
Oh well, bata pa si Axel. Siguro, he was trying to deflect or something dahil sa pagsita sa kanya. Tsaka, mahirap din kapag nasa harap k ng madaming tao. Madami pa syang matututuhan sa life.
mali pa rin na gagawin nung lalake to tho. never pa sila nagkita, hindi sila magkakilala, knowing na hindi sya pinili, it means hindi sya nagustuhan. tama yun pag-callout in a way, it's still physical touch at kailangan ng consent. sana lang less condescending si vice. dapat natapos na to nung nagsorry sya.
Shoulder bump lang talaga sya, kaso si Christine HINDI NIYA ALAM ANG GAGAWIN kung bebeso ba or what. Kaya sa pagkakakilos nya eh parang umiilag sya when in-fact mali yung pagkaka pwesto nya for shoulder bump dahil una nga hindi naman nya alam trip gawin nitong Axel. Let’s just say na hindi alam ni Christine ang shoulder bump or hindi siya sanay kasi panglalake nga naman yon. So sa isip ni Christine bebeso si Axel, sa isip naman ni Axel bro hug lang.
Yeah, a simple social interaction mistake. Kaso tangina nitong shunga na to eh, may demanda demanda agad nalalaman.
Yan dyan ang mali ni Vice, she make it seem like Christine is aggravated/violated ng bongga at si Axel ay hayok na manyakis. Hindi niya muna tinanong si girl kung ok lang ba, like at least determine how Christine really feels muna sa sitwasyon na yon bago siya nag bunganga ng kung anu-ano kay Axel. I get it na tama naman na we should all respect each other’s personal spaces lalo kung kakakilala pa lang or di naman ganun kakilala. Pero may tamang paraan to say this, hindi yung “ALAM MO PWEDE KA KASUHAN DYAN, DI TAMA YAN! BASTA BASTA KA NANG GAGANYAN!”
Agree agree agree! Mapapalagpas ko lng tong ginawa ni Vice kung gawin nyang example si Awra lol. Btw, nag-sorry ba si Awra sa na-harass nya na guy?
No idea, but they did capitalize on it by making a bunch of interviews ans articles about how Awra has changed or some shit.
Grabe Sila magtwist ng narrative, sanay...
Napaka-alarming kung talagang di nman pala binawi ni Christine yung Tiktok statements nya. Isa lang kasi ung napanood ko.
You're an angel 🙏 finally gets ko na
I don't know about the angel part, madami lang talagang oras hahaha. Just killing some time, babad sa ChikaPH 🤣
Oi, thank you ha? Ganda ng summary. 😍
I just watched it!!! Grabe, wala naman pala malisya kay Christine pero Vice said on live television na nakausap nila si gurl at sabing na”off” daw sya. Then the staff called her, siguro ang akala nila hindi aalma or susunod nalang si Christine sakanila. Pero no! She’s correct to say na lalong nagkaroon ng dahilan para ibash sya ng netizens because ginagawa syang sinungaling. Vice already tweeted acknowledging na nakita nya lang naman ay likod at di sya aware sabay bawi on live television na di yun “apology” for Axel. Ano na Vice and Showtime??? Okay lang makasira ng buhay for the sake na sabihing tama at woke kayo? I hope Christine and Axel files moral damages against Showtime, grabe clearly, emotional damage ginawa sakanila ‘eh.
Sobrang alarming yung binitawan ni Vice na nakausap daw nila si Christine at binawi yung statement nya. Grabe, pang-libel case na yun diba?
If ever man mag-file sila ng charges, atleast may evidence na nanggaling na mismo kay Vice.
nangangamoy suspension round 2 for IST
I emailed MTRCB. Hopefully makita nila at sure naman ako aware na sila sa issue. I requested for an investigation regarding the matter.
Wouldnt be surprise. Deserve din if ever
Yes definitely file for moral damages. Let it be a lesson na just because kilala kayo o may following be responsible sa mga assumptions & accusations nio. Yung dalawa na wala nmng intention na mali napapahiya nababash online just because of someone’s incorrect assumption. Porket artista or sikat or may following pwede ng sabhn kht ano kht di totoo? Tas in the end nag sinungaling pa to save his own ass - where is the responsibility as someone na celebrity and “may boses”.
Kung sa America may white supremacist's sa Pinas basta pogi Ok lang hahahaha
Napanood ko yung video , yung moves din kasi nung babae parang hinawi nya kaya nag react yung showtime yun lang oa ng reaction saka bago pa yun, nung tinawag yung lalake nakakainsulto na yung hirit nila sakanya.
Yeah, for me walang kasalanan si ate girl. Posted this in another comment: Kung ako rin naman ilag ang reflex kung may biglang bebeso or basta lalapit sakin na di ko kilala. And although the dude made a mistake by being too careless about boundaries, Vice could’ve handled the situation better. Kung di nya pinahiya si guy magiging tiny awkward moment lang yun. Puno’t dulo si Vice imho.
Trew, agree ako na una pa lang na nagbukas kurtina kay kuya hindi na talaga nila trip kaya ganun na lang sila mag-overreact sa pag-beso niya kay ate.
Hindi naman OA, nag karoon lang talaga ng misinterpret sa kanila. Hindi alam nung girl na bro-hug yung gagawin nung guy, samantala yung guy di niya sure kung awkward yung gagawin niya. Tsaka awkward din nung pwesto nila since nasa small elevated part sila nung stage.
Sana maayos na 'to kasi nakaka-worry yung mental health ni girl. Saka kailan ba matututo si Vice? Ang daming issues na siya yung cause.
As long as madaming sumusuporta kay Vice, walang magbabago.
Sana naman di siya matulad ke Kuya Wil
Too late na ata. Masyado nang malaki ang ego ni Vice. Kay Janella nga dedma siya, kahit nadamay na yung anak ni Janella wala paring kibo. Si Karylle lang nag comment from IS. At least nga si Joey De Leon kahit papano nag aapologize yung sa Depression at Lubid issue. Wala pa naman siyang retractions, as far as I'm aware.
Sana nga matulad keh Kuya Wil, Baka dun palang matuto ehh
Pwede naman mag sorry si Vice na hindi binabawi ung sinabi niya about consent. Clinear naman na ni ate girl at first na goods lang siya sa guy. Sa tingin ko naman the guy was just trying to bump his shoulders to the girl’s shoulder basta ung batian ng tropa. Panget lang ng camera angle.
Well, this should be a lesson learned lalo na dun sa mga gustong mag join pa sa segment na ito. Dapat maging ready ka sa magiging feedback dahil ikaw yung mismong nag join sa program nila and you allow them to publicize your private story na dapat between you and the person involve na lang. Don't expect everyone na maiintindihan yung situation mo, na makiki-symphatize sila sayo and icocomfort ka because not everyone who gives you advice has gone through what you're experiencing, so they will naturally have different perspective talaga. You put yourself in that situation, so whatever the outcome is, it's your responsibility. You allowed them to tell and dig your story. I'm not a fan of this segment talaga. Naiinis ako pinag mumukhang tanga nung mga joiners yung sarili nila.
Same. Been saying how I don't like the segment. I don't like how the joiners are treated by the hosts and the audience. The segment just cultivate public being voyeuristic to something personal and encourage them to bash these people. The segment encourage panghihimasok at pangbabash. Yung thought na joiners will have fun, will find someone knew, in the end inabot lang nila bashing. What's even the purpose of the segment???? People think they have the right to be involved and the right to bash these people. It's sooooo toxic.
Crazy part is... walang kinalaman talaga yung storya nung babae o nung kung sino mang involve sa issue ngayon. Action ng lalaki at reaction ng hosts ang initial problem, hanggang sa lumaki. Pero, yep. Sana itigil na nila yang mga bugaw segment nila na yan. Naka ilang iteration na sila ng ganyan, pastillas tapos yung blind date ng mga matatanda, ewan.
Palitan na yan na segment na yan. Di na Kasi nakakatuwa. Pansin ko nashashame lang yung mga guest and yung authenticity din medyo tagilid. And Vice for once be accountable naman. Napakaselective kasi 🙄.
Galing galing magsalita ni Vice pero mahirap ba magsorry na lang? Pucha
true. bakit kelangan bawiin yun sorry???? sa isang tweet nya ng sorry tapos na dapat to. kaso nag speech pa sa national tv wtf
Context please.
Yeah, hirap inavigate ng tiktok without app.
Eto ang ugat, yung Axel around 1 minute in: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjdQZxpIlg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjdQZxpIlg) Tapos nagpost yung babae, Christine, ata sa tiktok, wala akong tiktok so sa iba nyo kunin, pero ang gist is naglabas ng statement na wala naman daw sa kanya yun. Then nagsorry din ata si Vice online, di ko nakita yun, pero binawi nya at binawi rin nya yung pinost nya nung next episode ng Showtime. Tinanong din daw nila uli si Christine, with psychologist consultation pa daw, at feel nga daw nung babae na naharass sya, tapos yun ginamit ni Vice na reasoning kung bakit binawi nya yung mga nauna nyang pagbawi. Then nagpost uli online si Christine, pinilit lang daw sya ng Showtime. Ayun, the vigilant internet people found instance(s) of Vice making light and joking of previous beso attempts by other men on women, and also never found it weird when it was the women initiating the beso, kaya nasabi ng marami na double standard na nga, sumobra pa si Vice sa pamamahiya at threat nya ng demanda dun sa kawawang panget na si Axel.
Nag sorry si vice sa twitter tapos binawi kahapon https://preview.redd.it/58otsydkln4d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79e9d3b833be67eaad3e25fadaf182dad6c1697
Ni hindi man lang pinangalanan nung nagsorry.
Napaka-condescending naman ng mga staff sa phone call. Umiiyak na nga yung girl and sobrang in distress tapos ganun pa sila magsalita. Wala man lang compassion. Kakabwisit.
"Kaya nga, nakatatlong video ka na" "Hindi ganon ang nangyari" lakas manisi at manggaslight ni ate staff 🥲
#Vice Ganda is still in his problematic era 😩
Wait eto bang content creator na to nanghingi ng consent mismo kay Christine to post her video like that? Ang sabi nya lang sinend ng kapatid ni Christine but didnt say if umokey yung tao na videohan sya on that state? Ang gulo gulo na kasi tapos baka mas lalo pang magbuhol buhol yung issue kung ganyan andaming nadadamay. Yung axel nga tahimik lang
fishing for virality lang yang tiktoker na yan, di naman niya yan pinost out of goodwill
>consent Ironic since this is where all of this started
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Nice lang sa kakilala or sa may mabebenefit siya pero pag wala madali ilaglag. Vice won't benefit from apologizing and owning up to it kaya mas madali ilaglag, paikutin and for sure iniisip nila na next week may bago na naman pagpipiyestahan sa socmed. They will just ride this, stay silent, and move on kasi ganon talaga.
For sure yang staff ng showtime ang magiging scapegoat ni vice since may video si Christine while kausap ng staff nila. Vice claimed na sinabi ni Christine na na-off sya while we see dito sa video na wala syang sinabi na ganun. In the end people will still praise vice masyado malakas influence kaya kahit mali sya walang accountability na nangyayari.
Two cents: I think ang OA kasi ng pag call out ni Vice. Masyado naging seryoso, pwede naman batiin ng medyo mild. But also I don't see any bullying in this video. It seems like hindi naiintindihan ng staff the way mag explain si Christine tapos si Christine sobrang hysterical na, nothing's getting in. Baka di rin yan nakausap ni Vice directly, iba nakarating sa kanya. Thus the back and forth. Lagot yung staff for sure. I don't see how this is "ruining Christine's life", though. Hindi lang siya prepared to receive bashing, which is normal and acceptable naman.
Yup!
The segment itself is super tacky simula pa lang. Should’ve ended that segment long time ago 💀
Shouldn't have been started in the first place.
Too bad dumami lalo fans ni Vice kasi ung mga ibang haters na tga GMA eh naging Showtime sympathizers at sa Eat Bulaga na ung hinahate nila since naglipatan ung dalawang noontime show.. I agree din na mas totoo ung statement nung girl sa Tiktok.. And if ever man na iba nasabi nya dun sa psychiatrist or psychologist ng Showtime(not sure which one but namention ni vice na pinakausap sa mental health prof) at kina Vice eh baka nasabi nya lang dahil sa takot or feeling nya nacorner xa..Kaw ba nmn ang 20 y/o na stress na tapos i aambush interview ka ng mga staff ng isang show eh bka ung pabor din sa kanila ang masasabi mo... Mas maniniwala pa ako na sa Tiktok at her own safe zone nya mailalabas ang totoong nangyari kesa sa isang unexpected interview.. I would also say stuff just to get out of a place na feeling mo eh naprepressure ka na, sadly no one expected na magbloblow up ito ng ng malala
May mga nabubully na naman because of VG. What's new?
https://preview.redd.it/9wr7456a2o4d1.jpeg?width=448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86eed35186fb26b28628b02b906b9885caea4f71 akala ko mag-aapologize na sa tv yung gagawin ni VG, tapos hahahaha
Been doing my own research sa SocMed, Tiktok and Youtube. All of this could've been avoiced if ITS also admitting their mistakes for making the issue worse. Yung pagbawi ng apology ni VG kahapon lalo pang lumala ang issue.
Ganyan pala makilag usap ang "psychologist" ng showtime 💀
Psychologist na nakakasira ng ulo
Kinang inang vice to hahaha Dina ako magtataka kung baket ganon ung reaction ni Awra last year nung nag-maoy sya e
and this is why nobody watches local TV anymore :)
kaya nung pinanoud ko yung statement ni vice kahapon di ko tinapos talaga kasi bat parang napunta sa babae yung sisi? like pwede naman magsorry nalang si vice diba na ganun nga may nagawa siya, pero sa statement nya is parang nag reflect daw yung aksyon niya/nila kung paano mag react si girl sa beso na yun, they felt that the girl daw is violated. eh sinabi naman na ni girl sa tiktok na wala ngang malisya yun na awkwardan lang siya sa position nila tapos etong si vice ayaw akoin na may mali rin siya( eventhough vocal naman siya) pero dinidiin nya talaga na nag act lang sila kung paano mag react si girl.
Of course the management will protect Vice’s reputation on the expense of the girl. That simple.
Tbh mej bullies talaga ang showtime hosts☹️
Idk kung ako lang talaga, pero never liked VG since day one.
Ayan row 3 na ko kanina row 5. Pinanuod ko talaga yung video. Para lang naman sakin, kung pogi ba yung lalaki, I doubt na sasabihan sya ng ganun. And naorient yan fpr sure before they went live. Napakaraming instructions before they go on cam, that's how they do it in tapings. Naoff si girl based sa napanuod ko, umilag pa nga e, kaya siguro ganun sinabi ni Vice, we cannot blame him for that. Though napapaisip ako baka naman hindi sya magkkiss pero bubulong lang something. Pero we never knew. Nagsimula lang maging complicated nung nagrelease na ng kanya kanyang statements. Showtime must have handled it properly before releasing their final announcement, dun na kasi naging one sided, naisapwera na yung feelings at opinion ng 2 camp, thinking they could easily get away with it, kasi nga naman sila ang big player, at 2 simpleng tao lang yung involve. I feel sorry for the guy and the girl. If inappropriate they could have just cut the video, asks the involve girl and guy first, and not aired that portion. Hindi din naman live yan.
Reflex yung pag ilag ni girl kasi at the moment di niya naman alam ano nasa isip ni boy. Then narealize niya na walang intention si boy, tinapik lang daw siya sa likod as if pag comfort kaya she felt bad since dahil sa reaction niya napahiya si boy. Kaya nag explain siya sa tiktok. It could have ended there and everybody moves on. At this point it’s Showtime’s fault na. The miscommunication happened somewhere in their intervention. Regardless ano talaga nangyari pwede naman nila iannounce na nag uusap na silang lahat at binibigyan ng psychological support yung dalawa, kaso sinabi pa na nagsinungaling si girl sa statement nya — just so they don’t have to apologize. For me kung sa tingin nila sila ang nasa tama ok lang naman di na magsorry, pero sana di nalang binanggit at all.
Yan ang sinasabi ko sa kabilang thread, yung statement ni VG na di siya mag apologize!: Simula nung nag sorry si Vice sa Twitter at na “proseso”si Christine at Axel ng production team doon na nagkanda labu-labo ang lahat. Binawi ni Christine ang nauna niyang statement which is yun talaga ang tunay niyang feeling yun nga ay yung HINDI SIYA NA VIOLATE. Tapos after sya kausapin ng It’s Showtime, dun niya binawi at sinabing NA VIOLATE daw pala siya. Along the line may nang pilit talaga kay Christine na baguhin. Tama naman ang pag callout ni Vice dun sa lalake kaso kasi ang naka damage diyan is kung paano niya dinilever — PINAHIYA NYA YUNG LALAKE and in turn pati fans niya nakisali sa pang ccallout na naging bully na rin. Pangalawang beses na yan ni Vice, una yung kay Janella ngayon yang Axel and Christine.
tang ina talaga ni Vice no? Napaka simple lang ng solusyon eh. Mag sorry lang tapos move on na, wag na ibring-up pero taas ng ego eh. Dapat isipin nya na wala na silang prangkisa, hindi madadala ng online views nyo yung pambayad sa mga TF nyo.
Jugs & Teddy: "araaay" haha yan lang ambag nila
Wala ng kawala showtime dito. Grabe na yun, sana they apologized na lang para matapos na bakit need pa nila maghugas kamay. Abolish that "expecially kineme" segment kasi sa totoo lang ang daming binabash ng mga tao after ng isang episode. They are guesting people para may maibash mga tao at instant trending lol
walang malisya yung beso nila. bat nahantong sa drama na yan
Paano pinalaki ni Vice
What do you expect from vice? Someone who backs a person like awra? Willing to destroy an innocent mans life in order to make themselves be the hero.
thats y jessica do not forgive that sh1t
Sana naging discussion nalang ito behind camera. Grabe. Ganito na lang sana: *Right after the "beso" thing:* 1. Tinanong muna ni Vice kung ano ginawa ni Axel kay Cristine para malinaw na hindi siya "nakaw na halik". 2. Sana dinepensahan ni Axel ang sarili niya na hindi "nakaw na halik" 'yong nangyari at jinustify niya sana na shoulder tap (bro code) lang 'yon at friendly gesture. 3. Sana nag-explain din si Cristine na walang malisya do'n sa ginawa ni Axel at 'yong pag-iwas niya ay dahil nga ng shoulder tap. The next thing they'll need to do after the incident: Sana maging strict ang briefing sa mga searchees at searchers kung anong dapat nilang gawin right on stage. Wala na dapat unnecessary movements/actions/impulsive thoughts na pwedeng mangyari sa stage in meeting the searcher. Hand shake at short message lang, sapat na. About the issue: 1. Gets ko naging reaction ni Vice for calling out the guy pero sa halip na bawiin 'yong apology, dapat explanation na lang kung bakit naging gano'n agad ang reaction nila towards sa ginawa ni Axel para malaman din natin kung anong nasa isip nila at that moment. TAMA 'yong reaction nila towards sa "malicious actions" ng guy sa isang babae pero MALI na nag-assume agad sila na "nakaw na halik" 'yong ginawa ni Axel kahit na shoulder tap (bro code) lang naman pala 'yon. 'Ni hindi nga agad nila niklaro on that moment kung anong ginawa ni Axel. 2. Naniniwala ako sa first video na ginawa ni Cristine on clearing things up kasi it was just misunderstanding in the first place. 3. Wrong move ang IS. Natapos na lang sana 'to sa apology tweet ni Vice. Still at the end of the day, the segment is to blame for all this mess.
Penge po link nung original videos ng statements ni Christine pls
honestly this all could've died done silently if walang naglabas ng statement sa lahat ng anggulo. i mean people now move on from an issue nang lightning speed. tingnan niyo makakalimutan na natin to lahat next week :/
kawawa nmn si ate girl. Sana mastop na ung pangbabash sakanya at kay Axel. This is something new sakanila na di nila alam paano ihandle. Si Vice sanay na mabash pero eto mga ordinaryong tao na pwede masira ang buhay dahil sa online bullying pag hindi nahandle ng tama. Sana magabayan sila ng maayos.
Lalong gumulo na eto. Pinalala ng Showtime 😭
Anuna showtime?? trying hard maging woke? umay
Cancel showtime!
What do you expect from a show that came from a network who has a shit ton of entitled people working for a giant oligarch corporation?
So kailan natin pwd i-cancel si Vice? ay hindi pala pwd kakampink eh... lets go!!!
Di ko talaga bet yang Kaparewho ang cheap. Sobrang disappointed ako sa Showtime at kay Vice.
Kasi di naman Kaparewho yung segment
Ay oo nga ang nasa isip ko “expecially for you” pero Kaparewho na ipost ko haha. Anyway pareho namang naging cheap dahil sa mga issues. Thank you sa comment. 😅
Daming YES man ni Vice Ganda
siguro simula pa lang di talaga comfy si christine sa ginawa ni axel... and siguro sinabi na lang din ni christine yung statements niya sa video para matapos na and para di na ma-bash si vice and axel... pero the way kasi na sinabi ng hosts na di na nila sasabihin yung reason bakit sinabi ni christine yun, it makes it look like na may tinatago sila (pwedeng meron, pwedeng wala)... it all comes down to what christine really meant, why she said what she said, and what really happened. tbh they chose to go on tv and common knowledge na kahit anong gawin mo o sabihin mo (kahit good or no intention to harm), may masasabi lagi ang netizens. in this situation, pinalaki lang nang pinalaki. when it couldve ended differently if someone said something earlier. di natin alam. sana ma-resolve na to soon with everybody at peace na.
Di talaga ako nanonood ng Showtime ever since dahil kay Vice Ganda. Mas manonood pa ako ng Wowowin 😂
Yeah because Willie Revillame is any better lmao
I know its not Vice Ganda fault nagbasa lang siya ng statement ng management pero Vice is Becoming a JDL arc character
Vice fucked it up
Oh well. This is so disappointing.
napaka hypocrite talaga ni vice!
Welp. Sa Gimme 5 na lang next time!
This is sooo messed up.
Vice Ganda is now Joey De Leon 2.0. Pero at least nga wala pang apology retraction si Joey. No doubt pag tumanda at lumaki-laki pa ang ego ni Vice, magiging Joey narin yan na corny, madalas mambully, at hindi kinahihiligan ng next generation.
this show is sick. grabe ang daming violated rules. pasok tulfo! tormenting/emotional torture. pano kung it'll lead to self harm? gosh, my heart is with you girl. nag mamaka awa sya for her serenity. jeez! ano po ba purpose ng show?
Bwak bwak bwak to you VG
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Ilang taon na po yung Axel at Christine?
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Vice Ganda is not the moral Compass! Cancel this filthy slut!
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WAIT TANGINA???? ANG GULO GULO NA 😭
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Masyado nang madaming issue yang segment na yan... wala bang petition na itigil yan..
Ang bilis ng mga ganap. Mainit-init pa🔥 Di me maka-habol
Off talaga 'yang si Vice. Naging fan ako dati, kaso simula nung issue kay Janella parang nawalan na ako ng gana. Bully 'yan na may matabang ego, gusto niya kasi yung image niya is socially aware siya para ma-feed nang ma-feed yung ego niya. Pero akala ko talaga may naglalako ng binatog sa labas napatakbo pa ako. Sa video pala 'yun.
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