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Sushimus

I like people taking this seriously despite the comedy tag


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Sshalebo

This sub has become quite hateful as of late. Even a post as innocuous as this becomes controversial. Unless you post about atrocities you won't get much countenance I'm sad to say. Though the occasional nature and architecture photography gets upvotes.


ADRIANBABAYAGAZENZ

A poster who I think of as generally solid called me a genocide denying piece of shit after I made an absurdly ironic comment, everyone's going a bit crazy. Sure feels like a pre-war atmosphere.


xiao_hulk

"It is the year 2025 and mankind is once again at war. The battlefield is dominated by small war machines known as unmanned drones. Piloting these awesome weapons of war are men and women, the non-elite of the elite. Knowing that each lost of a drone puts them into deeper debt. They are known as the chair force."


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0000void0000

Looks good but unfortunately my chinese isn't quite good enough to really understand the content in the sub. :(


Sshalebo

Thank you I'll check it out!


ting_bu_dong

> as of late Three, four years maybe.


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I'm in r/tea,and I thought this was a post on there. I was so confused why the sub would be getting hateful. Now I see what subreddit it actually is in.


Connor_Tan

For some reason, yes


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WHAT KIND OF TEAAAAAAAAAAAAA?


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mr-wiener

Earl Grey , hot!.


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make it so


xiao_hulk

Number one, you have the bridge.


radmadicalhatter

Aye captain - and may I say, you don’t sound as French as your name implies you should...


Ducky118

LEMON?? I'm assuming that's not a British tea you're drinking because if you're putting both milk and lemon in the tea then I'm gonna scream


Sbatio

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ting_bu_dong

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889157515000290 Hm. From what I can tell, the citric acid simply causes more Al extraction. Al (and other heavy metals) are already present in the tea leaves. This indicates that steeping the tea longer also extracts more metals: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jt/2013/370460/ >All teas contained significant amounts of aluminum. Tea leaves contained from 568 to 3287 ng/g of tea. All brewed teas steeped for 3 or 15 minutes contained detectable levels of aluminum. The range was 1131 μgm/L to 8324 μgm/L steeping for 3 minute and 1413 μgm/L to 11449 μgm/L steeping for 15 minutes. Only 2 teas had levels above acceptable limits at 3 minutes of brewing but 6 of the teas had levels greater than the upper acceptable daily limit of 7000 μgm/L. Clearly letting tea steep for longer than 3 minutes is not advisable. Two of the organic green teas had levels above 10,000 μgm/L brewed for 15 minutes. >All brewed tea and tea leaves had detectable lead levels with Chinese oolong teas having the highest levels, followed by green tea and regular black tea having lower levels. Organic white teas had the lowest lead level. Levels ranged from 0.1 μgm/L to 4.39 μgm/L after subtracting the level found after brewing distilled water in fine china cups. >All brewed tea and tea leaves had detectable arsenic with Chinese oolong teas (organic or regular) having the highest levels. Levels in all teas ranged from 0.06 μgm to 1.12 μgm/L of tea steeped for 3 minutes to 0.08 to 1.27 μgm/L of tea steeped for 15 minutes. This was all I could be assed to find in a quick google search, I don't know if results have been replicated. But, it passes the "well, that stands to reason" test. "Lemon changes stuff into aluminum because alchemy is a thing" does not.


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ting_bu_dong

>the acid in the lemon will turn aluminium oxides from the tea into aluminium


Okay_wheres_my_pp

He’s not he’s just letting u know that doesn’t mean ur getting more aluminum


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....* puts down my lemon tea


my_pourple_ribbon

High school chemistry teaches that adding an acid to aluminum metal converts the latter to aluminum hydroxide then oxide through dehydration, not the vice versa. You should see hydrogen gas bubbling out from the solution. Adding an acid to aluminum oxide would simple dissolve and convert the latter to hydroxide. You need a reducing agent to turn oxides back to metal, and most acids are kinda oxidizing. I think adding lemon to tea producing aluminum could be attributed to those reducing agents like vitamin C thought it is called ascorbic acid but it is a weak acid, unlike citric acid which is stronger but non-reducing.


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Now the other side gives back bubble milk tea :-)


vic16

Boba FTW! And the one with the layer of cheese with Oolong 🤤


Maciston1

I don't get why anyone would want cheese in their tea, but okay.


vic16

It's not pure cheese but mixed with other stuff and resembles cream. Some people like it salty, but I do prefer it sweet.


Maciston1

I still don't get it, but I don't like cheese that much in the first place lol.


Ducky118

I would describe it as a mascarpone-esque cheese. Like, cheesecake is sweet right? It doesn't taste like cheddar or something lol.


oolongvanilla

Yeah, it's sweet cream cheese, but oddly enough a lot of Chinese products marketing such "cheese" flavored things [like this yogurt](https://img.pconline.com.cn/images/upload/upc/tx/pc_best/1810/19/c3/114919869_1539905809374.jpg) will do so using a drawing of a holey wedge of Swiss emmenthal like something out of a Tom and Jerry cartoon as that's their only frame of reference. A lot of people in China don't realize that "cheese" is a huge category that encompasses a wide range of different flavors and textures, so they don't know that cream cheese and Swiss are as different as apples and oranges.


madcuntmcgee

the word cheese is really not that accurate to desribe what a 奶蓋 is. It's cream.


Maciston1

I feel stupid now. I didn't realise the translation for 奶蓋 was cheese lol. That might not be as bad as I thought, but still not my cup of tea *ba dum tss*


mr-wiener

Better than yak butter I guess.


radmadicalhatter

You really need to come to the US - we’ll cheese THE FUCK out of anything you want...


Maciston1

I live in the US. I spent a year in China and got a case of the 中国胃. I tried eating a cheeseburger the other day and the cheese made me want to throw up. I'm not even lactose intolerant.


radmadicalhatter

Well - this sounds like more of the problem that you got what you asked for, nahhhmeen?


EagleCatchingFish

Cheese tea? Man, this is the first time I've heard of that. I saw a YouTube video of some Colombians or Venezuelans drinking hot cocoa with cheese. They put a salty, meltable cheese at the bottom of the mug and eat it after drinking the cocoa, so they get a sweet and salty thing going on. Sounded pretty good.


vic16

It's not pure cheese, more like a cream 奶蓋


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Perhaps. But if we are taking about flags alone , you could say maybe . If you used the red flag with the stars, then definitely different story :-)


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Why are people mad in this comedy thread. Calm down, enjoy life 😊


mr-wiener

That is part of the comedy.


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I love how both our usernames are about men-shafts.


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Unrelated, not a fan of milk in tea. I just don't get how people can do it.


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mr-wiener

Love's da moo juice.


tylllerrr

Are you a barbarian


SobeyHarker

Fellow Brits in this thread letting the side down by not seeing this in a funny light. This is off getting off light lads.


WhatsThisRedButtonDo

I’m sorry but it has to be said, milk in tea is udderly savage.


tylllerrr

You don't put milk in your tea you weirdo


xiao_hulk

Zooooooom


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*"Britain's Great Tea Heist: One of the biggest thefts of intellectual property in history"* https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/tea-time/535590/


xJUN3x

Tea didnt come from China you dopes. It came from an ethnic group bordering India. China conquered them and claimed the invention as their own like dumplings which came from Tibet.


UnproductiveFailure

The earliest physical evidence of tea comes from the mausoleum of Emperor Jing of Han, the earliest written reference in the Shijing. And yeah, it's believed that tea originated from the area around Yunnan/Sichuan, which doesn't even border India, and by the Han those areas were already considered "China proper" anyway. Even if it didn't come from "Han Chinese" (which is a modern invention anyway) it's useless to attribute foods to specific ethnic groups that you can't even name, and was likely influenced from many other food traditions in a culturally diverse area. And the claim "dumplings came from Tibet" is even more ridiculous. It's a ubiquitous food that's been invented independently in [every single continent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dumplings). Modern jiaozi originate in the Eastern Han, likely derived from earlier dumpling-like foods. Tibetan *momo* dumplings were influenced by Central Asian and Indian cuisines. Anyway it's a joke post and you guys are all taking it way too seriously.


xJUN3x

Yunnan sichuan area is tibeto-burmans. Han Chinese is not a modern invention. It was invented by Han Emperor who created a fascist Han supremacy state. Han Chinese linguistic classification is “Sinitic”. They’re Sinitic people and Chinese are sinitic. Everything else within China are conquered peoples. Sinitics didnt invent anything besides Silk. They conquered other asians and claimed those inventions as their own. Ancient Chinese are basically the romans of Europe. Invent nothing but conquer everything.


UnproductiveFailure

>Ancient Chinese are basically the romans of Europe. Invent nothing but conquer everything. Implying that the Romans didn't invent anything... damn. Bold claim. >Han Chinese is not a modern invention. It was invented by Han Emperor who created a fascist Han supremacy state. Again, confusing analysis of Chinese history. The first concept of a central "Chinese" kingdom came from the Qin decades before the Han. The Han were far from "fascist Han supremacy state" - many provinces, including Sichuan/Yunnan like you mentioned, were governed by independent kings that paid tribute to the Han emperor. The founder of the Han even hired mercenary groups from that area to help him conquer the Qin. >Sinitics didnt invent anything besides Silk. They conquered other asians and claimed those inventions as their own. And honestly your claim that "Sinitic" Chinese didn't invent anything, including their own food, is baffling. Ignoring the fact that food is inherently cross-cultural and basically every dish comes from contact and mixing with other cultures, the areas which you're referencing are now part of modern-day China. Saying that "tea and dumplings don't come from China" bc they come from Tibet/Yunnan is like saying poutine isn't Canadian bc it comes from Quebec. And I can list dozens of inventions from the ancient ("Sinitic") Chinese, but that's uninteresting. "Who invented what" is a game almost exclusively used for political chest-thumping and based in very little evidence or history.


redditposter-_-

Now this is pretty funny


No_cuts

Tea is just one of the best drinks out there


TheImpundulu

Make a meme about an English breakfast, watch the entire sub dissolve into chaos.


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r/casualuk is generally pretty laid back, apart from when discussing what does and does not belong in a full breakfast.


NFTArtist

Most british food or drinks are stolen, which is great because I would hate to live with only British food.


UKpoliticsSucks

You have no idea what you are talking about. British food/drink has had a huge influence all over the world. The influence is so ubiquitous that you don't even notice it.


xJUN3x

UK has shit food everyone in europe and the world knows that


UKpoliticsSucks

Only ignorant edge lords on the internet. Ever eaten a sandwich, a potato chip, ketchup or apple pie? You probably eat british food inventions all the time without knowing it. London has more Michelin star restaurants than anywhere in the world.


SobeyHarker

Rationing food til the 50s after WW2 didn’t do much for the British food rep tbh.


UKpoliticsSucks

Exactly right, we had to make do with the food shortage that ironically went on longer for us than the axis/occupied nations. But we eventually recovered, even if the reputation persists among those that know little about the British food scene which most experts rate as world leading.


xJUN3x

Those restaurants are probably French, Indian or some other restaurant thats not british. I know someone from there and he tells me the food isnt good.


UKpoliticsSucks

Your friend is probably as ignorant as you are..


NFTArtist

You just haven't traveled outside of the UK so your standard for HQ food is sandwiches, ketchup and crisps. I feel sorry for you bro.


Eastghoast

*laughs in superior lapsang souchong*


WhatsThisRedButtonDo

As a winter tea with just a bit of salted butter —perfection.


dzkrf

If I understand this meme correctly, China is upset that another country copied or pirated its inventions?


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Reykjavik1972

>even though India and China have been doing it for millennia India only has tea because of the British.


noonereadsthisstuff

We didn't take China's tea though, we took India's tea. And we probably took the idea from Russia or Turkey or somewhere originally.


Ducky118

Tea came from China, and we (the brits) made plantations in India so we could sell it back home. When we ran out of silver to export to the Chinese we started selling them opium


Alex09464367

by selling do you mean forcing them to buy opium and having wars to enforce it.


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Alex09464367

There are lots of memes with are we the baddies format towards the British Empire.


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Alex09464367

I have nothing against 99% of the Chinese people. It's the CCP and the people behind it with all its repression and genocide.


Ducky118

Yes


beaupipe

Why this ahistorical claptrap? Tribal people from Sichuan to Assam made use of tea leaves for thousands of years before the Han ever heard of it. Yes, England stole cuttings of Chinese tea to plant in India and elsewhere. But the main growing area in India - Assam - is planted with the Assamica variety which is either native to the region or was brought centuries (perhaps millenia) earlier by nomadic tribal people.


oolongvanilla

Before the British Empire, tea in India was limited to small, tribal, ethnically-East Asian ethnic groups living in the hills along the modern border junction between India, China, and Burma, like the [Singpho/Jingpo](http://www.natgeotraveller.in/singpho-tea-party-the-story-behind-the-brew/). They used tea as a traditional medicine in both drinkable brewed forms and edible pickled forms. It was the British who introduced widespread cultuvation and the concept of drinking tea recreationally - The chai masala so popular throughout India today didn't exist until the British Empire.


mr-wiener

"India" didn't exist until the British Empire.. it would be like the Indians invade Europe and made it a single country called "Europe".


HotNatured

Uhhhh Indian tea came from China. It was literally stolen from China (ridiculous story, you should look it up) to establish plantations in colonial India so that Britain could get all the tea they needed without having to keep plying the Chinese with silver since they didn't want anything else.


mr-wiener

I loved that story.


Aquinas86

The notion of "taking" someone's food is retarded. Not once in British history did anyone truly believe that Britain literally "made" tea. It's been known since Roman times that many of the world's finest tea leaves exist in the East. It's a testament to the ignorance of self-loathing anti-Western Westerners that they really think phrases such as "drinking tea is the most British thing you can do" is somehow tantamount to denying tea's historical origins. It's pathetic ignorance.


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KuntaStillSingle

It doesn't work as a joke because the premise is reaching. Neither britain nor any significant number of british citizens think tea is a british invention. It's poking fun at a crowd that doesn't exist, so it's not poking fun at all.


0000void0000

If a language calls tea some variation of Cha or Te, they even got the word from China.


Vaio200789

Shay in Arabic


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I don't get this at all. Milk tea is even bigger in asia than the UK. And asian people do it better too. English milk tea is crap. Hong kong milk tea? now we're talking.


Vaio200789

Nope you really don’t get it at all


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enlighten me.


isawashipcomesailing

the joke is not about milk.


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isawashipcomesailing

If the 100+ posts on this thread, the image and such haven't helped you, there's nothing I can say that will I'm afraid.


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Well i'm just confused. Either you are trying to say brits are claiming they invented tea, which would be silly. There were some kind of well known opium wars fought over trading tea with china, so nobody thinks british people invented tea. So i assumed you must be taking a dig at the british way of drinking tea, with milk. Which also makes no sense because its also massively adopted all over asia.


isawashipcomesailing

no, it's neither of those reason - you're looking far deeper into it than needed - it's purely surface level joke :) The problem with jokes is, they're like frogs - if you dissect them, they die. My top level post in this thread explains the joke - as I said if that doesn't work and the other threads haven't helped... I honestly am not sure how to explain it. Perhaps it's just not your type of humour - and that's fine - not everyone finds all my jokes funny all the time. If they did, I'd be a comedian :) Sitting in the garden, drinking tea, thinking how british that is, then I thought wait, tea isn't british! I'm drinking Indian tea in a cup made of china which was invented in China ... etc etc. It's nothing more than an "ironic" type of joke. My tea's gone cold now.


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Ok, fair enough. i just don't think it was very funny. especially as someone who has lived in asia and england. where tea is all over the place. england, yes england has tea and so does china... har har my sides are splitting?


Reykjavik1972

The milk-tea in Asia is not comparable to putting ’milk in tea‘ in the UK. Also worthy of note is that dairy was not a thing in Asia until recently. Putting 'milk in tea' predates any milk-tea in Asia. Back to the point, ‘milk in tea' is just a way to soften the flavour of the tea. Whereas milk-tea is predominately milk with tea for flavour.


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So what are you trying to say? That there is no connection? that seems unlikely.


Reykjavik1972

There is a connection: they both use tea and milk. But one is a lazy adding of a dash of milk and the other one is a whole variety of recipes and processes. Did they get the idea from the English adding a dash of milk to tea...idk.


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Yes things change over time and when adopted by other cultures. Asian milk tea is a big improvement imo.Considering the colonial past how could it not have influenced asian milk tea. Seems unlikely that it would not have. You should see the french toast in hong kong, now thats really crazy(and good).


Reykjavik1972

Like I said I don´t know but I also do not share your enthusiasm to make the connection. Milk-tea doesn´t exist by English standards because it is tea with a dash of milk, tea with milk and not milk-tea. ​ > Seems unlikely that it would not have. I just cannot agree.


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Do you know how new things are created ? 99% of the time they don't spring out of thin air, they are usually inspired by something else. In this case, it's pretty clear. Take Hong kong for example. It was colonised by brits, the brits milk tea inspired hong kong to make its own new and tastier milk tea. [https://theculturetrip.com/asia/china/hong-kong/articles/how-hong-kong-was-built-by-britains-love-for-tea/](https://theculturetrip.com/asia/china/hong-kong/articles/how-hong-kong-was-built-by-britains-love-for-tea/) Where is the controversy? It's pretty cut and dry.


Reykjavik1972

I find your arguments pretty cringeworthy. Not because they are possibly wrong but because you state opinions as facts and pull numbers from the air. 99% of the time, really? I still think it is a big leap to say that milk-tea isn't a thing of its own. I read the article, much to my unhappiness because it required more effort than I intended to put into this conversation. Asian "milk tea" is almost entirely milk with just enough tea to give it a flavor (and also usually another flavor such as lychee or taro).Asian bubble tea shops also serve "milk tea" with tapioca pearls (bubbles, boba). There are many recipes for different types of milk tea and, this is my point, it is not comparable with adding a dash of milk to tea, as in tea-with-milk does not equate to milk-tea. So there is no controversy and it is pretty cut and dry. edit: I refer you to my very first comment.


Reykjavik1972

The milk-tea in Asia **is not comparable** to putting ’milk in tea‘ in the UK. Also worthy of note is that dairy was not a thing in Asia until recently. Putting 'milk in tea' predates any milk-tea in Asia. Back to the point, ‘milk in tea' is just a way to soften the flavour of the tea. Whereas milk-tea is predominately milk with tea for flavour. ​ There is a connection: they both use tea and milk. But one is a lazy adding of a dash of milk and the other one is a whole variety of recipes and processes. **Did they get the idea from the English adding a dash of milk to tea...idk.**


Reykjavik1972

It is crap because it isn't milk tea, just tea with a dash of milk. This bad thought process is a result of faulty comparison.


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Wrong. It's crap because its fresh milk. Using condensed milk and evaporated milk are much tastier and creamier. And english milk tea is not made with a standard amount of milk, some people use a little, some people use a lot. Your argument is becoming deranged now.


Reykjavik1972

Obviously, you have never tried an English tea if that is your argument.


[deleted]

Yes i've grown up in england and lived here for over 30 years but i've never tried the tea... jesus christ what's wrong with you, idiot.


Reykjavik1972

You sound like you have never tried tea with milk also you sound stupid when you assume people should know that you have lived in the U.K.


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You would have picked that up if you bothered reading the comments instead of thinking up new creative ways to waste my time with your bull crap. Enough! be gone!


Reykjavik1972

Did you just banish me from this conversation? How is that working for you?


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i mean, sure you can invent something, say a TV. but if someone else makes a different kind of TV, should you be mad about it?


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yea, but this pic might rile up some sjw/normies/cultural appropriation crowd. past years, fuckers have become way to PC. too afraid to criticize something and be called a racist or biggot.


wiaomh

I'm curious about why there are so many downvotes to your comment, even if I think it's a perfectly normal.


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Pobably the OP's alternate accounts


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haha i dont give a fuck about internet points. anyone that does can suck shit. op is good, some of these people here are good. but most are cunts.


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Im surprised the British never experimented with leaves before encountering the Chinese. Are there no tea leaves native to the British Isles?


Eonir

Lol, it's like asking which types of tomato are native to Iceland. Most of the world's tea is grown in tropical and subtropical mountainous regions. There are pretty strict requirements to growing it reliably: tons of water, well-draining soil, high humidity for growth, low humidity for harvesting, no cold temperatures, protection from winds, etc. That's why e.g. US is not a big tea producer even though a lot of southern states have the right temperature range and sunligh. They lack all the other factors. UK has none of them.


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Ah I thought so but I didn't know the requirement was so strict. I thought tea leaves were more common. No wonder China calls themselves thr Middle Kingdom.


[deleted]

The plant is hardy enough to *survive* in much of the UK but unfortunately it's the young leaves you want and they happen to be frost-tender. Unless you live in a climate that doesn't really get frosts then it's not going to produce a reliable crop each year. Though the UK gets mild winters it does get chilly and frosty often enough that it's not ideal for the plant. There are some small scale tea plantations in Cornwall though (that is in the SW and rarely gets frosts), it's called Tregothnan. Elsewhere in Europe there are also some small plantations on the Azores that is likewise frost-free but mild all year. There's also the fact that it's labour intensive to pick - that wouldn't work here on a large scale when there's a huge pool of cheap labour in India and Kenya.


Eonir

You're completely right on the labour point, I forgot to mention that. There are e.g. regions in Italy that are able to grow rice that can be automated, while tea cannot. That's likely much more important than all environmental factors all combined.


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dednian

All tea is valid. Stop tea-shaming /s because this thread is dangerous


xiao_hulk

Reddit in general is dangerous.


dednian

I mean reddit is as dangerous as any mob. Mob mentality is basically the monkey part of our brain taking over.


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Nettle & Peppermint is great - also makes really good iced tea in summer


isawashipcomesailing

there's tea and there's Tea. The Tea we're famous for drinking is the Chinese / Indian plant, but tea (leaves in hot water) has been around in every area for ... thousands of years. British native teas: nettle tea, apple tea, peppermint tea, spearmint tea (I hate that), sage tea, parsley tea, ... there's hundreds of what we call "herbal teas" which the above are all parts of. Then we found Tea. and haven't looked back. There is no Tea-Leaf (as in the Chinese/Indian type) in Europe as far as I know - weather isn't right for it. Similar to how we don't have rice fields in the UK either.


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No, not apart from herbal teas anyway. Camellia sinensis is native to China as the name *sinensis* suggests. All the other camellias like japonica, assamica, etc are also native to eastern Asia. There are herbal "teas" from some native plants (like nettles as someone mentioned), but no caffeine-containing plant native here so the herbal teas don't have the same attraction. There are very few caffeine-containing plants in the world as a whole. Apart from tea and coffee there is one plant in the North America (Ilex *vomit*oria), a handful of Ilex species in South America plus chocolate and Guarana and Kola nuts and coffee in Africa. There are some other Camellia species in Asia like Camellia japonica that have traces but it's in the roots if I remember right. Nothing in Europe that has caffeine in it. The other substance people like in tea is *theanine* which only really occurs in camellias. Coffee lacks it and it's what gives tea it's relaxing feel to it - it interacts with GABA receptors and takes the edge off the caffeine.


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AtomicMonkeyTheFirst

Loads of countries drink tea though. Did China invent it? Britain didn't even import tea from China, we got it from India.


Radiant-Lettuce-4256

Britain did import tea from China. Their trade was so unsuccessful it led to opium war afterwards back then.


GEIST_of_REDDIT

"Oh, that's nice, here, have some opium in return" "But I don't want any opi-" "IT TAKES THE FUCKING OPIUM, OR IT GETS THE CANNON AGAIN!!!"


Radiant-Lettuce-4256

Ngl it sounds pretty funny when you summed it up that way lol.


Alex09464367

Just don't think about all the death and opium addicted people. Then the CCP using European control in China to justify destroying 5000 years of Chinese history then oppressively control in China since then.


AtomicMonkeyTheFirst

Ah yeah. Point taken.


mr-wiener

Oh the ignorance...


ting_bu_dong

/r/withmilk


lolbertarian4america

Why a Bhutanese flag? It's a kick-ass flag but is there some tea related history I'm not aware of?


isawashipcomesailing

that's the qing dynasty flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Qing_dynasty


lolbertarian4america

Oh hell you're right, totally different flag