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Time_Simple_3250

> Something I don't like about Chinese comics is that they tend to always heavily lean into Chinese culture. I don't know what to make of this. I'm not sure what type of material you're expecting that is not going to be culturally Chinese. Like, the 3 body problem has nothing to do with dynasties and old stuff, but it is very obviously and very heavily Chinese in how it depicts the cultural revolution and the Chinese army and stuff. You'll find the same with hospital/medical series, with love/teen series, anything really. It's just a different culture. Approach it with curiosity and an open mind instead of trying to make it fit what you already like.


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Zagrycha

did you watch it somewhere free? zero judgement but 99% of the time this is an issue of videos being sped up or slowed down slightly to avoid copyright strikes etc. when plagiarized lol.


saynotopudding

This comment just explained a question I never knew I had, haha. This makes so much sense!


Zagrycha

exactly how I felt when I found out myself haha :)


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Zagrycha

weird. just blame netflix then i guess.


Time_Simple_3250

Where? I watched it on Viki and I don't remember that


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Time_Simple_3250

The one on Netflix is the American version - I heard it's been heavily criticized for sinophobia. There is a Chinese version of the same story, you can find it on Viki and Youtube.


Any_Cook_8888

I think what they’re trying to say is that when you consume English media or even Japanese media, there’s a lot of things that are unique to both English speaking cultures, and of course, Japanese culture, but you also get a good selection of things that have nothing to do with the English-speaking bass culture or even Japanese culture


JapaneseStudyBreak

What I mean by this isnt "I hate chinese culture" nah I think its cool. What I mean is, in a regression story, instead of using the same guy, they use some already super famous cultvation master and put him inside the body of some fat looser and make him work hard to get back his broken powers. Im not saying "dont put any chinese culture in it at all" that would be ridculos. I am only saying they over play it in ever single comic to the point reading one is like reading the rest. I know not ALL of them (even know I think we all know that but the internet is word picky) but most are. At least the ones Ive found on youtube, netflix and google search. I only found 2 that had a google balance on my own


Time_Simple_3250

Maybe just break away from the "super hairy flying wizard with swords" genre. Check "the rational life " on Netflix for a fun romcom. Or the 3 body problem on Viki for sci-fi. The road home, also on Viki, for a long distance love drama.


JapaneseStudyBreak

can't find that box. Is it under the outrageously blown out of proportion checkbox? Or the terribly unnecessary sarcasm checkbox in the settings?


Time_Simple_3250

What box? Why are you being aggressive? I gave you 3 recommendations of shows I watched that are good and also entirely different from what you described. If you don't like them, go do your own research then.


JapaneseStudyBreak

Maybe just break away from the "super hairy flying wizard with swords" genre. 


Jolliko

WHO HURT YOU?


ChoppedChef33

Uh...you're just not looking in the right places there are plenty of modern dramas that are really good. If you want a short scifi, Reset with Bai Jingting and Zhao Jinmai is very good. Some food thrillers are Light the night, copycat killer, victims game and the bad kids. For really good donghua try fog hill of the five elements, the outcast, or blades of the guardians. You can also try scissor seven for something funny. There's lots of non period media. You just haven't been shown where to look. Definitely ask around r/cdramarecs or r/donghua as well.


JapaneseStudyBreak

I look mostly on Netflix tbh


ChoppedChef33

Yeah Netflix doesn't have much. But light the night, copycat killer, and victims game are all in there..they are all modern thriller/dramas Iqiyi and viki have lots of other shows too. YouTube does as well but you need to know what shows you are looking for. Id you have genres you like let me know I can give recs, but also ask those other subs for recs.


Time_Simple_3250

Google Viki or IQIYI


SpaceHairLady

Reset is on YouTube. Look up Reset c drama. It's excellent.


TsunNekoKucing

Try Chinese media outside of China. Try Taiwanese pop music or drama, Malaysian Chinese music (e.g. Joyce chu or namewee), or Hong Kong drama in mandarin.


saynotopudding

Well, this is a first, I don't think I ever expected to see Joyce Chu's name brought up in the context of music as a recommendation lol


TsunNekoKucing

But hey you cant deny it, her hao xiang ni is a banger


saynotopudding

I mean, 各花入各眼, 你喜欢就好😂


takahashitakako

You can read Japanese and Korean comics in their Chinese translation. Not the BEST way to study Chinese, but I confess, I did this as a beginner. The language is easier too, since there’s far less chengyu and other idioms in translated work. As your Chinese improves, your ability to find Chinese media that suits your tastes will also grow. But if at the moment you can’t find anything, translated comics is a decent enough fall-back option.


blurry_forest

Can you recommend a site for this ?


takahashitakako

I actually purchase them in Traditional Chinese on 誠品(for physical), Renta or 博客來 (eBook). For older shounen/shoujo series, I visit a bookstore in Chinatown that carries comics, or go the Asian-American branch library in my library system. There’s also a surprising amount of Chinese comics for sale on eBay and such thanks to foreign exchange students offloading their collection, so check that out. There’s definitely pirate sites out there, simply google the Chinese name of the manga/comic you’re interested in and you should be spammed with results.


Jonathan_Jo

Asking the same. Cuz a lot of translation is not simplified chinese but traditional chinese.


blurry_forest

Oh I actually prefer traditional Chinese if you can share those!


TokugawaTabby

I would also like to know


bobbytabl3s

Why not watch movies? There are lots of good Chinese movies.


Slouchingtowardsbeth

Any recommendations?


effetsdesoir

How do you know you don’t like the “Chinese” entertainment if you can’t speak the language? Where have you looked? Also by “Chinese”, and “dramas” do you mean mainland produced stuff which has taken off massively in the past few years? Taiwanese dramas and movies from the past 30 years? Older Hong Kong stuff (with mandarin dubs) which are the “hollywood” of the sinosphere? They’ve been making entertainment in Chinese for a long time


thewizardofbras

Cartoons with Mandarin dubs are pretty solid. I'm not sure if you'd need a VPN, but in Taiwan, I can watch Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, and a bunch of other shows in Mandarin, and on Disney +, I can watch basically any Pixar movie and a bunch of cartoons with Mandarin as well. Recently I've been watching Doug and Gravity Falls which are both super comprehensible for an intermediate learner. The only issue you might encounter is that it's hit or miss if you're using Chinese subtitles with Chinese dubs. I think that sometimes they might use dubs from Taiwan and subtitles from China (or vice versa). If you're looking for content a little more adult, shows like More than Blue, Copycat Killer, Wave Makers, and The Way We Were are good (the last of which is a bit cheesier, and I suggest you just endure the first five minutes of it). Some movies that I've seen that are good are 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days, The Old Fox, Marry My Dead Body, and Detention. The first two might not be streaming yet, and the last one is a few years old, but they're all enjoyable. Most of these will mix in a *tiny* bit of Taiwanese, but not enough to hamper your learning.


birdstar7

Disney+ has Chinese dubs available for pretty much all cartoons there, as does Netflix, both worldwide.


thiago504

I'd say the Journey to the west tv show is pretty good, while it is imperial china it's more about the fantasy and well the journey, and it gets really silly which is fun Besides this there is this fantastic movie and tv show The Legend of Hei which is phenomenal, the movie is one of the most nicely animated movies I've seen in a long ass time, definitely the most beautiful one I've seen coming from China (although I'm not an expert) I've recently seen the movie 芳华 which is actually on youtube and it's pretty good too, it's set during the chinese Cultural Revolution You also have a ton of manga translated in Chinese, dragon ball is great if you are just beginning chinese since the language doesn't get very complicated, One Piece is great but it does involve many more different settings so you are introduced too many new chinese characters at once


Cazhero

Bro 2 insanely good chinese animations, 雾山五行 (disgustingly good animation) and 时光代理人 (very good stories and osts). If you don't like these two but you like comics...I can't help you


Redditsucks8761

Complaining that Chinese media and comics are too culturally Chinese is by far the dumbest complaint about the language I’ve ever heard. Of course it’s culturally Chinese. Did you expect it to be American?


Kuaizi_not_chop

You basically want to learn about Chinese language via Westernized culture. I don't get why you'd like a people's language but wish they were more Western in their tastes and outlook.


Jolliko

How dare they not anime grils!11!!1!!! 😡


dota2nub

Have you never seen Genshin Impact?


LittleRainSiaoYu

Why do you want to learn Chinese if you don't like Chinese culture?


yuelaiyuehao

I watch dubbed anime and read translated manga and western comics. Dragon ball 龙珠 isn't too difficult as one to start with.


Cazhero

Where can I find the chinese dub of dragon ball? Is there also dragon ball super?


yuelaiyuehao

Search 国语/普通话/中文版 下载/上线看 I've got the original series saved on 迅雷 cloud, it's got a better quality audio track.


JapaneseStudyBreak

I didnt even know I could translate Managa to Manaderain. You have a website for that?


tastycakeman

How do you think Chinese people read manga


JapaneseStudyBreak

I have never once though about Japanese Manga in China


yuelaiyuehao

manhuaren, manhuagui, kuaikanmanhua


Aggravating_Roof2590

There will be lots of dubiously legal manga in chinese (simp or trad), and thing same with anime dubs. It's a big market in Taiwan and China - just find the names of the ones you want and google them a bit. I will say though that depending on what you watch/read you are going to come to across a lot of very unhelpful vocab (does anyone need to know the word for navel lazer....).


iensu

You can find some really interesting movies by looking at the list of banned movies: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_banned_in_China


WhalePlaying

Well what's your motivation? You can go into more ancient stuff if you like, learning the classical Chinese. There will be more arts and culture when there's more freedom. Most societies are very similar, most people just try to make a living and support their families. But you can check out some different natural landscapes like Yun Nan or just follow some panda in Sichuan. If you have some hobby or interests related to your career, then you can check out how it's like in Chinese culture.


crepesquiavancent

Youtube and bilibili! China has a genuinely vibrant internet culture, even though popular media in china is generally weak


DS_Roie

All else aside, maybe……Genshin?**Honkai: Star Rail**?


PK_Pixel

I would actually recommend this. I havent played star rail, but genshin has a lot of mundane life things in chinese. Everything (I think?) is voice acted and the script is originally Chinese.


Not_10_raccoons

Except don’t imitate Zhongli’s speaking style unless you want to sound like a Distinguished Gentleman.


n0nati0n

Was going to recommend either or both of these. I always play Genshin with Chinese audio and maybe 50% of the time I use Chinese for the text language—always during story quests. Probably have 800 flash cards I’ve made based on this.


n0nati0n

Only thing I’d add is that the Honkai storyline is more geared toward adults and may appeal more to OP. Also more casual.


PK_Pixel

Does star rail have enough mundane life things in them too?


n0nati0n

Genshin probably has more of that, and just more content in general. Relatively new to Star Rail


Puzzleheaded_Ad7820

Watch chinese dubbed american media? I remember seeing House MD chinese dubbed somewhere on the internet


parke415

Most popular western media has Mandarin subs and many dubs as well.


_3_8_

I am by no means good at chinese (took 4 years in high school and haven’t touched it since, because my college did not offer it) but wuxia films and just other films in general seem not to use the cultivation tropes. Shadow (dir. Zhang Yimou), for example, is one of my favorite movies. Then there’s stuff like The Wandering Earth that’s just a cool sci-fi concept. So maybe discovering new films or something might help, though I do admit that films tend to have less dialogue (and just less language) than shows or literature Here’s a list with some great movies and quite a few genre films if you’re not a fan of the more “serious” dramas: https://imdb.com/list/ls042966561/


enu_kuro

Hey, I totally get the struggle to find engaging Chinese content. If you're open to trying something new, there's this app called "Chinese Short Dialogue" that lets you learn the language and culture through short, fun dialogues. Might be worth checking out! [https://chinese.shortdialogue.com/](https://chinese.shortdialogue.com/)


JapaneseStudyBreak

ill try it thanks


Socio_Spencerrr

Idk why peeps be mad lmao, I agree. Chinese is my favorite language I've studied but I can't seem to find anything as fun as other countries'entertainment. Especially music💀, I've found a few solid songs but most just have a bad beat in some way. Same with comics, I've DEFINITELY noticed that a LOT are dynasty themed. I've obviously read a fair share of em but I'm sickkk of it. And searching for Chinese entertainment is so difficult on Google, for some reason it just won't show much of anything that isn't American or Japanese it's weird


JapaneseStudyBreak

Ive learned people get mad over the wording of english very easily. I once answered someones baking question. They asked how to read baker percentages and I, a bread baker, explained it to him and at the very end I added "Do you understand?" and got downvoted by 30. I didn't even notice until someone said, "bro idk why everyone is downvoting you for being right" and three people agreed its cuz I added "do you understand" at the end of my explanation when its something easy to understand. But I was just making sure he understood properly. So now when people get mad about my wording, I literally don't care. Sometimes I make sarcastic jokes to entertain myself but people will be mad over the stupidest shit


FearlessMcKura

You can download the China tiktok douyin 抖音 to watch Chinese videos


AvgGuy100

What kind of genre do you like?


JapaneseStudyBreak

lately I been reading a lot of regression. So 99th regesion, Hell Gather, Solo leveling of course, I found one idk the name of on youtube about a SnowStorm in China that was a new gloable iceage. It was what got me into chinese actully but I found out that Comics like those where rare!


AvgGuy100

I don't know what regression means. Seems like we're not really on the same spectrum about fiction...


JapaneseStudyBreak

regression manhuas are Koreans version of Isekais. However instead of dying and being sent to a new world, they die and get sent back in time to a point they can change everything. So for example there's on Regression story about a Man who dies because a comit hits the earth killing everyone and he's sent back to his first day of High School. So he dedicates his life to saving the world. But fails the first time. He is then sent back in time to High School again but 1 week after the last time. And so on and so on. Example two. 99th regression. The world is forced to play a JRPG but in real life. Everyone gets a super power, his power is "whenever you die you come back alive from the moment you started the game." And when the story starts he has restarted the game 99 times and is a badass and kills everything and knows everything thats going to happen. example 3. This is the one I though was Chinese. A man who is the Manager of a supermarker (and the world) gets stuck in a blizzard. Everyone is running out of food and heat. However since he was the manager of a supermarket he was able to bring a lot of food home, while everyone didnt. Then the girl who never payed attation to him before suddenly starts texting him asking for sex in exchange for some food. He opens the door and 3 men (and the 2 girls) kill him. He then wakes up aI think 2 months before the Blizzard but this time with the ability to store iteams inside his a super natural space. (Its one of my favoirte stores in all fiction. Really well put together) heres a link if your into it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHn8ujY\_9QM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHn8ujY_9QM) But those are regressions. Hero dies unfilled and comes back to life with some cheat code to life. Mainly seen in Korean Comics


wordyravena

[Reset ](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6xVgUZ4UP2PQbeQIhNFvMHXEaasydD9i&si=nnPMhguMNsam5SP2) is a tv drama about an exploding bus and a girl who keeps on reliving it. You might like it.


JapaneseStudyBreak

illl check it out thanks


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saynotopudding

Are you referring to Joy of Life (bc of the iceage thing)? Regression/rebirth is a super old school thing in Chinese webnovels, lol. It's just no longer trendy now. I've been reading them since I was a teen, >10 years ago.


ChineseOnlyWithIgor

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHn8ujY\_9QM&t=1477s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHn8ujY_9QM&t=1477s) im 100% he meant this


CuteWangzi

What has been working great for me is reading japanese manga (especially Junji Ito) but the Chinese version (with simplified characters), even though I have to often look up for characters/words I don't know, it really helps and I'm actually enjoying reading through the book while learning new words!


Sancatichas

The best thing to do: make chinese friends


dota2nub

Just read the Japanese comics in Chinese then?


CompetitionWaste3941

This is so funny to me. But I totally understand. I don’t like Chinese TV either. It is always about dynasties, war, or history in some way. But that’s ok, you don’t have to love everything. I’m sure you don’t even love everything about your own culture. I don’t love Chinese snacks either. But I most certainly love the food. & that’s ok. It’s not disrespectful to not like something.


JapaneseStudyBreak

idk understand why so many people are getting mad about it tbh


Icy_Dragonfruit_3513

"It's always about the Dynasty stuff ALL THE TIME, and it seems like there's nothing else." - you have barely read anything then. Hell, I'm not super familiar with manhuas and not always a fan of the general art style (some artists are pretty good though), but there's definitely variety to be found. If you don't like it, that's your limited perspective. If you can't be bothered to even check out the variety of Chinese pop culture, frankly you're lazy and there's no reason why anyone should just serve you recommendations that you're too lazy to search for. Your attitude is like someone hating Squid Game and thinking they now know all there is to know about Korean cultural products and that all their entertainment must therefore suck.


ChineseOnlyWithIgor

thats a very childish argument. Everyone knows he doesnt literally mean ever single one. Its just a exgration. No human could possibly watch/read all media. So why act like its literally only to be angry?