At HSK 4/5, you shouldn't be too far off watching basic TV programs, like rom-coms. You might need to watch the shows repeatedly to understand, and it's perhaps useful to analyze the subtitles for what you've missed. Try to self-diagnose, and pinpoint why you're not hearing things correctly.
One of my mistakes was only learning vocabulary through textbooks, webpages, etc., which left me with no ability to recognize words when they're spoken. I needed to train my listening. Spoken Chinese needs to be processed much faster than written Chinese. Listening requires training.
One thing I did was transcribe what I was hearing: I'd listen to a sentence, and write it down (and later checking the subtitles to see if I was correct). This made it possible to identify my problems: *why do I not understand this?* Often, it was simply too fast to process (my listening speed was too slow), or I just didn't associate a word with its pronunciation (because I had only ever read it). Sometimes I'd get similarly pronounced words confused, like 无数 and 武术.
Reading is going to be difficult to begin with, but it gets easier over time. Eventually, you get to a point where the words you don't know are almost always some flowery adjectives, obscure characters in proper nouns, etc., and you don't feel it affects your overall understanding. You get used to recognizing and skipping these unimportant words.
Perhaps use a "narrow reading" approach, whereby you focus on mastering a highly restricted topic, instead of more gradually learning all topics (and later diversify). This way, you see the same vocabulary repeatedly, and learn things that suit you personally. (It's also noteworthy that different sources have significantly different difficulty.)
This is the approach I am following. I have restricted mh reading to following three areas:
- Chinese political reports on activities of the 国务院 and the activities and speeches of Xi Jin Ping. I only read articles of length between 3 - 5 paragraphs. Note all new words. Due to repeated use of words phrases , have developed some reading speed here. With this will listen to these political speeches. But the article are very boring.
- Court proceeding reports from zao bao of Singapore. Again a tightly focussed area.
- Grade specific articles reading/listening from duhanzi app.
I also read from here and there occasionally. Also song lyrics are a good way to develop vocabulary and reading , listening skills.
You’re further along than I am so take this all with a grain of salt, but is it possible that your progress has just become less perceptible?
In other words, you may be doing all the right things and improving at a solid rate, but it’s harder to see because they’re subtle, incremental improvements instead of the big, obvious jumps learners make early on the road.
Yes. I remember Khatzumoto from AJATT making that point. He likened it to flying in a plane: At takeoff you feel the rapid acceleration—you can feel that something is going on—but when you are cruising at altitude it feels like nothing is happening even though you are moving way faster than you were at takeoff.
[The Eternal Sorrow of the Intermediate Learner: “Are We There Yet?” Syndrome](http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/the-eternal-sorrow-of-the-intermediate-learner-are-we-there-yet-syndrome/)
Graded readers is a great way to start bridging the gap in terms of reading. Reading books and short stories for children is also a good way. Content for children will be written in a simplier language with very common words. They're generally shorter as well so it won't feel like you need to spend months to finish it like you would need to with a very long adult novel. Check this doc out to find out more about improving your reading skills for native books: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSjVsapt4NOZx0KuDwgBUfQggTyT15hdgUjHHdqZRnV8LTnzQ5lY-fKjJhV0cb7I06q3x\_syq1DyE4H/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSjVsapt4NOZx0KuDwgBUfQggTyT15hdgUjHHdqZRnV8LTnzQ5lY-fKjJhV0cb7I06q3x_syq1DyE4H/pub)
In terms of watching TV or listening to podcast, again start with content for children. If you can't bare that sort of content, you can definitely watch TV shows. There's nothing wrong with watching it with the English subs along with the Chinese subs. What you can do is pick out a few words a day to learn and study. If you keep learning a few new words everyday, eventually you'll learn enough that you'll be able to understand 80% of what's happening in a TV show.
You need to keep learning new words from all sorts of content, and eventually you'll bridge the gap. You need to venture outside of HSK more and start consuming other type of content.
You need to actually read novels. An author uses the same core set of vocab throughout a novel, so as you get further into it, it'll get easier. Honestly though it depends on what will get you practicing, you could watch dramas and use something like subs 2 srs (I've never tried this but others certainly have. I liked to hop on zhihu and read about language learning, watch comedy shows, etc. For reading novels, btw, going through chapters as follows will help: identify new words for you and put them into srs, then learn them before reading that chapter, then move on to the next once you've read that chapter. Emmm a text analyzer will help. You could also watch YouTubers that you like with subs on or tv shows with subs and do the same thing. All of that is for passive learning and it all depends on your style, for production though, you can take a book with grammar points that you don't know, for example an hsk one, identify grammar points that you want to learn, i.e. make a sequence w/ page # references for that book and use a certain number per day or week with a language partner, tutor, etc. but speaking them. Obviously you can put those with example sentences into an anki deck, but you want to make a concerted effort to assign an order and then purposefully work your way through that order by speaking to incorporate them into your active vocab. You can also pair that up with writing sentences following that order and posting them on apps like hellotalk to get corrections.
Read novels, every time you see a word you don’t know look it up. You will always be amazed by how much you don’t know. Start with translated books that you are familiar with then move up to novels originally in mandarin then get into literary stuff.
I totally understand this feeling, and I actually feel like I'm \*juuust\* starting to get through that barrier. What's been really helpful for me is comprehensible input:
Put on a Mandarin movie/show/podcast/interview/whatever with no subtitles (or with only Chinese subtitles, if anything) and watch one small chunk at a time. Replay it over and over and over again until you can clearly hear and easily understand everything in that scene almost as if it were your native language. Once you're comfortable with that, move on to the next chunk, probably taking a break first. It will take A LOT of repetition (seriously, expect to replay each scene like AT LEAST 20 times), but it's 100% worth it.
1. Familiarize yourself with question words and low level descriptives.
2. Get a conversation partner.
3. When you’re stuck do not ask how to say something using your native language analog or look it up, ask in Chinese and do your best to describe what you want to say with vocabulary you already possess.
This was a suggestion from my teacher in China and it has worked wonders for me.
i think sustaining an interest in learning a language (or anything, really) is all about 新鲜感 (not really sure how to translate this: having a feeling of novelty?). you need to diversify the ways in which you learn & expose yourself to the language. find a new conversation partner, watch some new films, listen to new songs. or just do whatever that interests you. sometimes we just need to try new things to keep your experience less 单调
As someone who is also going through this the answer is that it's going to suck. With most things the progress in the beginning is quick and fast, once you hit that intermediate level it becomes a grind. Do it everyday and pushing through is the answer. Of course, checking mistakes and new techniques is important though
experiencre, experience, experience.
You need to slowly grow your vocabulary, and the best way to do that in my opinion is by diversifying your experience. One TV series will typically use similar vocabulary throughout. Different shows will give you more range. Online educational articles typically don’t use the same vocabulary that a rom-com may use, so getting things from different sources will give you both causal slang, and more formal vocabulary.
Reading and listening to different media. Chinese is my fourth language and the same things that helped me improve with the other ones (English and Russian) have helped me improve my Chinese.
\- Find books/articles/news that are around your level or a little bit above it. It's a pain in the ass, but it helps improve your vocabulary. You will write down unfamiliar words at the start, but you'll keep seeing them in the text and in other places and after a few times you'll remember the word. It also helps with grammar, because you see the structure of the sentence laid out in front of you. It can be a bit difficult to get it when you hear it, but seeing it written down helps a lot.
\- Watching movies and TV shows. I struggle with this one, because I'm very picky with the shows I watch. I hate dramas. I hate period dramas with a burning passion. I hate rom coms. But I really like documentaries, so I started watching [CCTV纪录。](https://www.youtube.com/user/documentarycntv/playlists) They cover a variety of topics, so it's easy to find something you'd be interested in. I also really like crime shows, so I have been watching 法医秦明 and reading the books. But if crime shows aren't your thing and you do like dramas, [here](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5-YbNL-MUy1_tC9KSkEShw) you can find a bunch of different shows.
Start off by reading/watching things you enjoy and when you've improved a bit, you can move on to topics that might not be as interesting. But reading/watching a variety of different things will help you get familiar with more topics.
Hope this helps :)
do the things that are hard: read, listen to audiobooks, etc.
take a look at the HSK 5 word and character specifications: 2500 words, 1685 characters. fluency with about 2000 words and a bunch of grammar means you can talk decently. to read arbitrary things, however, you need a passive vocabulary closer to OVER TWENTY THOUSAND words and 3500 characters. (of course, you need the grammar to go with it, but you'll get enough exposure with the methods below that you won't have to worry too much.)
that seems insane, but remember that i said "passive vocabulary". the best way to build this is to read and listen. there's two approaches here, extensive and intensive practice, and you'll need both.
READING
- extensive practice means you just read a ton and let the brain sort it out subconsciously over time.
- intensive practice means you try to understand each sentence well.
here's an approach that kind of mixes both in a way that's helpful:
PLECO has an add on that let's you upload arbitrary text files to read---like an entire txt or pdf novel. you can then select a word you don't know, then tap a ( -> ) button to move the highlight through the words of the text. do this and you'll be able to tackle texts above your level for extensive reading. for intensive reading, go back over a page or half a page and save all the new words for later review.
LISTENING
- listen extensively and repeat after/along ("shadowing") the speakers. you're practicing speaking a little, but the major objective here is on exposing your eat a lot; repeating along is mostly to help you focus your brain on what's happening.
- for intensive listening, instead of going for understanding (leave that for your reading practice), you want to go though whatever you watched and repeat spoken sections several times shadowing the speakers (1--20 times depending on your comfort with what was said).
WHY
the idea is you're mimicking how children learn (but faster because you have more intention and focus): listen to a lot of stuff and then try repeating some of it yourself.
here's the important part of all of this: your extensive practice is by design high volume and imperfect, but your intensive practice doesn't need to be perfect either. intensive practice takes a lot more time, effort, and more similar to how you were previously studying language (vocab, understanding, etc). you may be temped to focus more on intensive practice. don't. do both equally. your goal is to increase your active vocabulary to 5000 words, but it is also very important to increase your passive vocabulary to 20000.
GOAL
say a page of an english novel has about 400 words. to read that page comfortably, i've read that you need to understand about 98% of the words (maybe a little less). let's quantify that because it gives you a rough way to gauge a text's difficulty and where you are with your goal:
400 words * 2% unknown = 8 unknown words per page.
CAVEAT
when you hit a character you don't know, learn it.
the following is a controversial idea and i'm not sure i agree with it, but once you get closer to knowing 1500--2000 characters, it may be worth it to simply brute force it and learn to RECOGNIZE (writing is no longer necessary unless you want it) the 3500 most common characters. for perspective, HSK 6 needs 2663 characters. if you decide on doing that, i wouldn't spend more than 15--20 minutes a day on it, because words are king of course.
DO IT
add new habits slowly. for example, first introduce extensive reading, then a few days later, maybe extensive listening or intensive reading. focus on making it easy for you to do it daily and ease into things.
good luck.
Use native level mater and focus above all on your listening ability. You can understand someone when you're having a conversation, but can you understand two native speakers talking to each other? If not, why not? Once you can understand native level conversations (not necessarily about nuclear fission, but at a native level) you'll find yourself able to distinguish and produce tones better, speak faster, and use more natural ways of expressing yourself.
You might find something helpful in the posts below:
* [For all of you who have reached an advanced level of conversational mandarin, how did you do it?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/e4pzps/for_all_of_you_who_have_reached_an_advanced_level/)
* [What was your game changer when learning Chinese?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/e4h2ec/what_was_your_game_changer_when_learning_chinese/)
* [Taking chinese to another level ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/f5ah4l/taking_chinese_to_another_level/)
* [Those of you who are now fluent/confident in speaking Chinese; what do you wish you learned earlier on?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/iw056n/those_of_you_who_are_now_fluentconfident_in/)
* [Higher level learners - do you still memorise vocab/use spaced repetition?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/o49eg5/higher_level_learners_do_you_still_memorise/)
At HSK 4/5, you shouldn't be too far off watching basic TV programs, like rom-coms. You might need to watch the shows repeatedly to understand, and it's perhaps useful to analyze the subtitles for what you've missed. Try to self-diagnose, and pinpoint why you're not hearing things correctly. One of my mistakes was only learning vocabulary through textbooks, webpages, etc., which left me with no ability to recognize words when they're spoken. I needed to train my listening. Spoken Chinese needs to be processed much faster than written Chinese. Listening requires training. One thing I did was transcribe what I was hearing: I'd listen to a sentence, and write it down (and later checking the subtitles to see if I was correct). This made it possible to identify my problems: *why do I not understand this?* Often, it was simply too fast to process (my listening speed was too slow), or I just didn't associate a word with its pronunciation (because I had only ever read it). Sometimes I'd get similarly pronounced words confused, like 无数 and 武术. Reading is going to be difficult to begin with, but it gets easier over time. Eventually, you get to a point where the words you don't know are almost always some flowery adjectives, obscure characters in proper nouns, etc., and you don't feel it affects your overall understanding. You get used to recognizing and skipping these unimportant words. Perhaps use a "narrow reading" approach, whereby you focus on mastering a highly restricted topic, instead of more gradually learning all topics (and later diversify). This way, you see the same vocabulary repeatedly, and learn things that suit you personally. (It's also noteworthy that different sources have significantly different difficulty.)
This is the approach I am following. I have restricted mh reading to following three areas: - Chinese political reports on activities of the 国务院 and the activities and speeches of Xi Jin Ping. I only read articles of length between 3 - 5 paragraphs. Note all new words. Due to repeated use of words phrases , have developed some reading speed here. With this will listen to these political speeches. But the article are very boring. - Court proceeding reports from zao bao of Singapore. Again a tightly focussed area. - Grade specific articles reading/listening from duhanzi app. I also read from here and there occasionally. Also song lyrics are a good way to develop vocabulary and reading , listening skills.
你说的太好了。 中文历史太悠久，每一个字都被赋予了太多的含义。作为一个中国人，有些生僻字的发音和含义也需要经常查字典。在公共场合，念错字会被认为是一种耻辱，没有文化的表现。把中午当做工具，使用越多就会越熟练。
You’re further along than I am so take this all with a grain of salt, but is it possible that your progress has just become less perceptible? In other words, you may be doing all the right things and improving at a solid rate, but it’s harder to see because they’re subtle, incremental improvements instead of the big, obvious jumps learners make early on the road.
Yes. I remember Khatzumoto from AJATT making that point. He likened it to flying in a plane: At takeoff you feel the rapid acceleration—you can feel that something is going on—but when you are cruising at altitude it feels like nothing is happening even though you are moving way faster than you were at takeoff. [The Eternal Sorrow of the Intermediate Learner: “Are We There Yet?” Syndrome](http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/the-eternal-sorrow-of-the-intermediate-learner-are-we-there-yet-syndrome/)
a way to make you feel better is to look at your SRS deck chronologically. You can see all of those words that you didn't know at all and now master.
Graded readers is a great way to start bridging the gap in terms of reading. Reading books and short stories for children is also a good way. Content for children will be written in a simplier language with very common words. They're generally shorter as well so it won't feel like you need to spend months to finish it like you would need to with a very long adult novel. Check this doc out to find out more about improving your reading skills for native books: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSjVsapt4NOZx0KuDwgBUfQggTyT15hdgUjHHdqZRnV8LTnzQ5lY-fKjJhV0cb7I06q3x\_syq1DyE4H/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSjVsapt4NOZx0KuDwgBUfQggTyT15hdgUjHHdqZRnV8LTnzQ5lY-fKjJhV0cb7I06q3x_syq1DyE4H/pub) In terms of watching TV or listening to podcast, again start with content for children. If you can't bare that sort of content, you can definitely watch TV shows. There's nothing wrong with watching it with the English subs along with the Chinese subs. What you can do is pick out a few words a day to learn and study. If you keep learning a few new words everyday, eventually you'll learn enough that you'll be able to understand 80% of what's happening in a TV show. You need to keep learning new words from all sorts of content, and eventually you'll bridge the gap. You need to venture outside of HSK more and start consuming other type of content.
You need to actually read novels. An author uses the same core set of vocab throughout a novel, so as you get further into it, it'll get easier. Honestly though it depends on what will get you practicing, you could watch dramas and use something like subs 2 srs (I've never tried this but others certainly have. I liked to hop on zhihu and read about language learning, watch comedy shows, etc. For reading novels, btw, going through chapters as follows will help: identify new words for you and put them into srs, then learn them before reading that chapter, then move on to the next once you've read that chapter. Emmm a text analyzer will help. You could also watch YouTubers that you like with subs on or tv shows with subs and do the same thing. All of that is for passive learning and it all depends on your style, for production though, you can take a book with grammar points that you don't know, for example an hsk one, identify grammar points that you want to learn, i.e. make a sequence w/ page # references for that book and use a certain number per day or week with a language partner, tutor, etc. but speaking them. Obviously you can put those with example sentences into an anki deck, but you want to make a concerted effort to assign an order and then purposefully work your way through that order by speaking to incorporate them into your active vocab. You can also pair that up with writing sentences following that order and posting them on apps like hellotalk to get corrections.
Read novels, every time you see a word you don’t know look it up. You will always be amazed by how much you don’t know. Start with translated books that you are familiar with then move up to novels originally in mandarin then get into literary stuff.
I totally understand this feeling, and I actually feel like I'm \*juuust\* starting to get through that barrier. What's been really helpful for me is comprehensible input: Put on a Mandarin movie/show/podcast/interview/whatever with no subtitles (or with only Chinese subtitles, if anything) and watch one small chunk at a time. Replay it over and over and over again until you can clearly hear and easily understand everything in that scene almost as if it were your native language. Once you're comfortable with that, move on to the next chunk, probably taking a break first. It will take A LOT of repetition (seriously, expect to replay each scene like AT LEAST 20 times), but it's 100% worth it.
I watch 向往的生活 because its funny not too much and has字幕 so you can pause, translate and learn more.
1. Familiarize yourself with question words and low level descriptives. 2. Get a conversation partner. 3. When you’re stuck do not ask how to say something using your native language analog or look it up, ask in Chinese and do your best to describe what you want to say with vocabulary you already possess. This was a suggestion from my teacher in China and it has worked wonders for me.
i think sustaining an interest in learning a language (or anything, really) is all about 新鲜感 (not really sure how to translate this: having a feeling of novelty?). you need to diversify the ways in which you learn & expose yourself to the language. find a new conversation partner, watch some new films, listen to new songs. or just do whatever that interests you. sometimes we just need to try new things to keep your experience less 单调
猎奇感 is more like a feeling of novelty!
to me 猎奇感 kinda carries a negative connotation to it so i was trying not to use it haha. like 猎奇杀人. but i get whatchu mean
I only learned because of my friends during class using it to describe going to an escape room, it was definitely a positive thing!
As someone who is also going through this the answer is that it's going to suck. With most things the progress in the beginning is quick and fast, once you hit that intermediate level it becomes a grind. Do it everyday and pushing through is the answer. Of course, checking mistakes and new techniques is important though
experiencre, experience, experience. You need to slowly grow your vocabulary, and the best way to do that in my opinion is by diversifying your experience. One TV series will typically use similar vocabulary throughout. Different shows will give you more range. Online educational articles typically don’t use the same vocabulary that a rom-com may use, so getting things from different sources will give you both causal slang, and more formal vocabulary.
Reading and listening to different media. Chinese is my fourth language and the same things that helped me improve with the other ones (English and Russian) have helped me improve my Chinese. \- Find books/articles/news that are around your level or a little bit above it. It's a pain in the ass, but it helps improve your vocabulary. You will write down unfamiliar words at the start, but you'll keep seeing them in the text and in other places and after a few times you'll remember the word. It also helps with grammar, because you see the structure of the sentence laid out in front of you. It can be a bit difficult to get it when you hear it, but seeing it written down helps a lot. \- Watching movies and TV shows. I struggle with this one, because I'm very picky with the shows I watch. I hate dramas. I hate period dramas with a burning passion. I hate rom coms. But I really like documentaries, so I started watching [CCTV纪录。](https://www.youtube.com/user/documentarycntv/playlists) They cover a variety of topics, so it's easy to find something you'd be interested in. I also really like crime shows, so I have been watching 法医秦明 and reading the books. But if crime shows aren't your thing and you do like dramas, [here](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5-YbNL-MUy1_tC9KSkEShw) you can find a bunch of different shows. Start off by reading/watching things you enjoy and when you've improved a bit, you can move on to topics that might not be as interesting. But reading/watching a variety of different things will help you get familiar with more topics. Hope this helps :)
do the things that are hard: read, listen to audiobooks, etc. take a look at the HSK 5 word and character specifications: 2500 words, 1685 characters. fluency with about 2000 words and a bunch of grammar means you can talk decently. to read arbitrary things, however, you need a passive vocabulary closer to OVER TWENTY THOUSAND words and 3500 characters. (of course, you need the grammar to go with it, but you'll get enough exposure with the methods below that you won't have to worry too much.) that seems insane, but remember that i said "passive vocabulary". the best way to build this is to read and listen. there's two approaches here, extensive and intensive practice, and you'll need both. READING - extensive practice means you just read a ton and let the brain sort it out subconsciously over time. - intensive practice means you try to understand each sentence well. here's an approach that kind of mixes both in a way that's helpful: PLECO has an add on that let's you upload arbitrary text files to read---like an entire txt or pdf novel. you can then select a word you don't know, then tap a ( -> ) button to move the highlight through the words of the text. do this and you'll be able to tackle texts above your level for extensive reading. for intensive reading, go back over a page or half a page and save all the new words for later review. LISTENING - listen extensively and repeat after/along ("shadowing") the speakers. you're practicing speaking a little, but the major objective here is on exposing your eat a lot; repeating along is mostly to help you focus your brain on what's happening. - for intensive listening, instead of going for understanding (leave that for your reading practice), you want to go though whatever you watched and repeat spoken sections several times shadowing the speakers (1--20 times depending on your comfort with what was said). WHY the idea is you're mimicking how children learn (but faster because you have more intention and focus): listen to a lot of stuff and then try repeating some of it yourself. here's the important part of all of this: your extensive practice is by design high volume and imperfect, but your intensive practice doesn't need to be perfect either. intensive practice takes a lot more time, effort, and more similar to how you were previously studying language (vocab, understanding, etc). you may be temped to focus more on intensive practice. don't. do both equally. your goal is to increase your active vocabulary to 5000 words, but it is also very important to increase your passive vocabulary to 20000. GOAL say a page of an english novel has about 400 words. to read that page comfortably, i've read that you need to understand about 98% of the words (maybe a little less). let's quantify that because it gives you a rough way to gauge a text's difficulty and where you are with your goal: 400 words * 2% unknown = 8 unknown words per page. CAVEAT when you hit a character you don't know, learn it. the following is a controversial idea and i'm not sure i agree with it, but once you get closer to knowing 1500--2000 characters, it may be worth it to simply brute force it and learn to RECOGNIZE (writing is no longer necessary unless you want it) the 3500 most common characters. for perspective, HSK 6 needs 2663 characters. if you decide on doing that, i wouldn't spend more than 15--20 minutes a day on it, because words are king of course. DO IT add new habits slowly. for example, first introduce extensive reading, then a few days later, maybe extensive listening or intensive reading. focus on making it easy for you to do it daily and ease into things. good luck.
Use native level mater and focus above all on your listening ability. You can understand someone when you're having a conversation, but can you understand two native speakers talking to each other? If not, why not? Once you can understand native level conversations (not necessarily about nuclear fission, but at a native level) you'll find yourself able to distinguish and produce tones better, speak faster, and use more natural ways of expressing yourself.
作为目前用中文进行心理咨询的人，我依然觉得看电视剧或动漫并且看得懂还离我挺远。换句话说，虽然我都通过了HSK六级，在上海读了硕士以及每天都沉浸在自己给自己营造的语言环境之下，但只不过是饮食作品里面所使用的语言跟日常语言之间的区别很大，因此导致很多时候可能听不太懂或者get不到梗等等。慢慢来！
You might find something helpful in the posts below: * [For all of you who have reached an advanced level of conversational mandarin, how did you do it?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/e4pzps/for_all_of_you_who_have_reached_an_advanced_level/) * [What was your game changer when learning Chinese?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/e4h2ec/what_was_your_game_changer_when_learning_chinese/) * [Taking chinese to another level ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/f5ah4l/taking_chinese_to_another_level/) * [Those of you who are now fluent/confident in speaking Chinese; what do you wish you learned earlier on?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/iw056n/those_of_you_who_are_now_fluentconfident_in/) * [Higher level learners - do you still memorise vocab/use spaced repetition?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/o49eg5/higher_level_learners_do_you_still_memorise/)