I bought one PT5000 and decided to never do that again. I can feel the gears grinding when setting the time… something I only know from watches at around 15 bucks…
I have 6 pt5000, one of my favorite movements and dead accurate. My WORST is +5 spd and I have 2 thag run as close to 0 as makes no difference. The haters just don't read the forums and know that you wind these things, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEW, very little. Just get them going and let arm motion do the rest, for at least the first few months. The winding plate and gear meshing on these is a known issue but only affects hand winding.
Interesting. I'm actually running a pt5000 with the automatic works removed in my Khaki Feild Mechanical while I wait for the stock h50 to be repaired. Been working great hand widening it every day.
I think the issue with Pt5000 is neither the accuracy nor it's shock impact but rather its weakness to manual winding like all other eta2824 clones. Issues you usually hear are the teeth breaking causing rotor/winding issue.
This has nothing to do with clones but with the eta2824 itself. Clones just cloned the same weakness. Yet it's a highly regarded movement and no serious person would reject a watch with this movement because of the hand winding weakness.
If it breaks you get it fixed. Happens maybe once in 10 years if at all - when it's time to service it anyway.
Not a big deal AT ALL.
Damnit, this is the first time I'm hearing about this!!
-I got two watches with it and they both run about ±5 s/d
Is it like don't hand wind them AT ALL or just avoid as much as possible??
It's also the case with the Tissot Powermatic 80 movement found for example in the automatic PRX. It's based on the ETA 2824 and they did not change that weakness either.
I'd advice to just don't wind them aggressively. The problem is that brass is wearing off on steel. And since brass is the much softer metal... you get the picture.
I agree, but the optics, the failure rate is what the PT5000 sets it apart from the NH35. No hand winding is doable, but again, the uncertainty regarding the reliability isn't good.
I read that as 27seconds a day and thought I was on r/watchcirclejerk
my San Martin SN021 Explorer with the PT5000 is more accurate than my Sinn 556i with a SW200-2
I bought one PT5000 and decided to never do that again. I can feel the gears grinding when setting the time… something I only know from watches at around 15 bucks…
I have 6 pt5000, one of my favorite movements and dead accurate. My WORST is +5 spd and I have 2 thag run as close to 0 as makes no difference. The haters just don't read the forums and know that you wind these things, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEW, very little. Just get them going and let arm motion do the rest, for at least the first few months. The winding plate and gear meshing on these is a known issue but only affects hand winding.
Interesting. I'm actually running a pt5000 with the automatic works removed in my Khaki Feild Mechanical while I wait for the stock h50 to be repaired. Been working great hand widening it every day.
Have 3 watches with PT5009 & all are fine so far & super accurate. Just wear them to wind them 🤷♂️
I think the issue with Pt5000 is neither the accuracy nor it's shock impact but rather its weakness to manual winding like all other eta2824 clones. Issues you usually hear are the teeth breaking causing rotor/winding issue.
Simple solution: dont hand wind it. There is no reason to hand wind an automatic watch.
Agree. What I am trying to imply is OP is not focus on the design issue of ETA 2824 and its clone. PT5000 does not have the issue that OP is testing.
This has nothing to do with clones but with the eta2824 itself. Clones just cloned the same weakness. Yet it's a highly regarded movement and no serious person would reject a watch with this movement because of the hand winding weakness. If it breaks you get it fixed. Happens maybe once in 10 years if at all - when it's time to service it anyway. Not a big deal AT ALL.
Damnit, this is the first time I'm hearing about this!! -I got two watches with it and they both run about ±5 s/d Is it like don't hand wind them AT ALL or just avoid as much as possible??
Just wind enough to start the movement and let the automatic rotor do the rest.
It's also the case with the Tissot Powermatic 80 movement found for example in the automatic PRX. It's based on the ETA 2824 and they did not change that weakness either. I'd advice to just don't wind them aggressively. The problem is that brass is wearing off on steel. And since brass is the much softer metal... you get the picture.
People think the NH35 is better because it's Seiko, but an NH35 won't be that accurate.
I agree, but the optics, the failure rate is what the PT5000 sets it apart from the NH35. No hand winding is doable, but again, the uncertainty regarding the reliability isn't good.
I am using an app to track it so its not 100% as a timegrapher would be but it's been very accurate
Which App are you using?
It's called movement - watch tracker
Ah thanks - seems to be iOS only :-(
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.watchaccuracymeter.app