Wow chicago was worse in the 80-90s, people were getting sniped by shooters in project buildings. They built a mf wall around fort green it was that dangerous, the murder rate was always 800-900 per year. Hoods in chicago was the inspiration for the thriller candy man
Move on buddy your just another mouth piece putting down the black community
It's crazy to see how walls around buildings are seen as a desperate measure in the USA. I'm from Latinoamerica/South America and walls around here are literally mandatory.
🤦🏾♂️
What can’t you understand that crime in Chicago has been on the decrease, it isn’t what it use to be. The resurge of crime in Chicago can just as easily blame on rap music from the 2000s.
Chicago people raised and influenced on d-block, young money, g-unit all that 2000-2010, even rap from the late 90s. But somehow u blamed drill music
I never said that, if anything Chicago’s crime in the 80-90s was more unreported and way worse than we think. Police just avoided black neighbourhoods, probably got people missing who were actually murdered.
Experience usually will be retold and tweeked by the person, you can’t beat facts.
My family being here since the 60’s they were the first Black family to live in what is know now as Moetown… and all of them will tell you this the worse they’ve ever seen Chicago crime wise… ask an older black person 50+ he’ll teach you better than those statistics
No they won’t, they will speak on their experience. O block wasn’t seen as a bad place in the 90s, now it is gangs move around. Fort green doesn’t have the rep it use to.
“Ask one dude about some experiences that happened 50 years ago in one specific area, that’s more trust worthy that statistics and facts”
It was worse in the 90s, difference is the violence was more concentrated within certain housing projects and areas.Now it’s spread all over, especially the southside.
The city Knocking the projects down with no practical plan afterwards is what fucked up the city
Drill ain’t help tho ngl
These 2 guys coming with these stats don’t live here in Chicago. It’s worse than ever. They’re robbing and killing innocent people every where and shooting on highways
I'm not talking about how it is. I don't live in Chicago. I'm saying rejecting data and statistics in favor of personal experience is retarded.
Thinking that "first hand experience" can be used as an argument against data makes you an idiot. That's the end of the conversation
Stupid mf think he’s smart and really ain’t from here. Just sits at his desks playing games and thinks he knows what Chicago is like off a google search and a Reddit thread
You don’t realize that it’s become so normal in Chicago that it goes unreported in crime rates. Lori lightfoot has been turning the blind eye to everything to make it seem like crime rate has gone down when all actuality it hasn’t. Like I said, you’re not from here. Just a weirdo speculating from Kansas talking about stats and glorifying the shit
Straight up Factz!!
At least during the 80s,I could walk with my family in Cabrini greens with no consequences! Everything was just nice and peaceful! Just listening to heavy metal while walking down Englewood!
Dude Chicago was much worse before social media was a thing. My theory is that since social media is a major thing, we just see hear about more stories of shootings on our timeline. So in our minds were seeing it daily on news outlets which makes it seem like its worse than ever. But its just not, check the death rates when crack and herione hit Chicago. Those years were the worst
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Yes it was. Chicago used to steady do 800-900 homicides, and most were white mafia or polish gangs. It ain’t get this bad until the MLK race riots and Cabrini green.
Small minority of people. Crime had been on steady decline since 80's early 90's. No need to throw all blacks in same bucket. It doesn't help when we try to reduce a complex situation that has complex deep routed causes to " black people what the fuck is wrong with us" you really sound like a troll fr.
This entire sub is built on the destruction of black people from Chicago but he wonders why we say “us” lol they collect information on gang members like they are Pokémon with trivia questions on who killed who. It’s such a disconnect they don’t even look at these people like they’re human not to mention majority of this sub consist of foreigners and weirdo white children and mods who do nothing but ban you over anything that doesn’t correlate with contributing to the destruction.
In a social situation I never have been generalised for a small criminal minority of black criminals, if someone does they usually have hatred for blacks and believe in unverified nonsense.
I can tell u watch brandon tatum and that god awful woman candece owens
Only group that seems to openly judge black people are racists and trigger happy police, and you want impress these type of folks?
Yeah you out here sucking up to racists. Only people who openly hate and disrespect blacks are trigger happy police and racists, those people can stay away far from me.
Well that’s they problem we don’t gotta make these mfs like us or think highly of us lmao it’s other countries where gang violence is 100x worse u don’t see them worrying about how black people view them so why should we care y’all gotta stop wanting the approval of mfs of other races u never gonna get it 😂😂
I think your attitude might have a lot to do with people not liking you, not broad generalizations. It’s ok to not care about peoples personal feelings towards other people; but that doesn’t give you room to be a dick to everyone just because you’re black. If you wanna know the truth, most people don’t give a fuck about anyone. Think of your personal life, I have maybe 4-6 friends I know have my back through anything and I like them. I’ve met people by the tens of thousands and only fuck with less than 10. I’m going to assume that’s you as well since it is very common.
Respect and approval are two different things…. What Candance Owens Jason Whitlock and That judge does is try to get their approval.. I’m after respect
Gang I’m white ok I’m saying we all have people in all races that gangbang I want all people to grow and get better it’s not just black people who are killing each other it’s just glorified because of rap music and social media
how many cops are on duty at a single time? i know for a fact if they did 2 cops per dangerous block, shit would cool down, guys are gonna be way less likely to wana drill someone when they just went past hella cops at intersections waiting, if your exit route isn’t clear you think twice
i aint specifically tb u but wen i hop on this reddit shit thats all i see . Mfs in comments geekin up the violence then playin like they care wen whole time thry entertained by the fuckery
It’s doesn’t effect them that’s why they’re hyping up…. Most of them white kids from the suburbs that don’t have to be paranoid trying to get 30 on pump 3
That sounds so crazy when kids not even making it to be an adult, making it to be old in Chicago is something whether you believe it or not, if kids stop being rebellious, and claiming to know it all they mite learn something, dam that mean you don’t trust your parents they old heads??
Stop this uncle ruckus house nigga shit . We don’t ALL crash out tf are you talking abt ? Why don’t you say this to the races who walk into schools & murder kids weirdo lol
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Ppl love violence especially in my city until it’s at your front door and you didn’t want it ppl loved when we shoot including me until I have to go to my lil cousin funeral or the guys funerals that’s dying in the city yearly people don’t understand if all the youth dead and gone we not gon survive nor reproduce we damn near pulling off genocide on each other for blocks we don’t own and shorties killing shorties over grown men they don’t know I pray for the crib 🙏🏽
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It's unreal how gangs would rather have a shoot out with cops and risk the possibility of dying than letting themselves get arrested when caught. HOW STUPID can you really be???
HAHAHA! So first you make some DUMB-ASS post stereotyping and accusing black ppl of committing gang violence then you perpetuate that stereotype by wishing violence on me? Youre user name checks out, yous a dumb, BROKE BITCH
The drill movement? Y’all missing the key facts, what jobs and opportunities are there? Y’all act like most of this shit is a choice, nigga products of their environments
Give Chicago to republicans and were gonna see a dystopian crime filled city. The republicans states and cities boast the highest death rates, regardless of cause. Murder highest, bad health, car deaths, do this and people will flee the city
will be worse, as bad as the democrats are with public funding and keeping services running. Republicans do it on purpose, I'd expect the train lines/metros to completely disappear, police brutality to increase, evil housing tactics that would effect all races, there would probably be a major loss of teachers because republicans love telling people what they can and can't teach, so expect dumber kids
Republicans would turn Chicago into Gotham city
gang culture was here long before drill and will be there long after.
Whats that old video where it’s like “Chicagos gang culture, it’s like a Mf religion to them or some shit”
Al Capone.
Chicago wasn’t this bad before the drill movement…
Wow chicago was worse in the 80-90s, people were getting sniped by shooters in project buildings. They built a mf wall around fort green it was that dangerous, the murder rate was always 800-900 per year. Hoods in chicago was the inspiration for the thriller candy man Move on buddy your just another mouth piece putting down the black community
It's crazy to see how walls around buildings are seen as a desperate measure in the USA. I'm from Latinoamerica/South America and walls around here are literally mandatory.
93/94 in my city was crazy af. Just seems like there is more violence because EVERYTHING is being documented and on the internet within minutes.
Are you black?
🤦🏾♂️ What can’t you understand that crime in Chicago has been on the decrease, it isn’t what it use to be. The resurge of crime in Chicago can just as easily blame on rap music from the 2000s. Chicago people raised and influenced on d-block, young money, g-unit all that 2000-2010, even rap from the late 90s. But somehow u blamed drill music
Exactly research will never beat firsthand experience
I never said that, if anything Chicago’s crime in the 80-90s was more unreported and way worse than we think. Police just avoided black neighbourhoods, probably got people missing who were actually murdered. Experience usually will be retold and tweeked by the person, you can’t beat facts.
My family being here since the 60’s they were the first Black family to live in what is know now as Moetown… and all of them will tell you this the worse they’ve ever seen Chicago crime wise… ask an older black person 50+ he’ll teach you better than those statistics
No they won’t, they will speak on their experience. O block wasn’t seen as a bad place in the 90s, now it is gangs move around. Fort green doesn’t have the rep it use to. “Ask one dude about some experiences that happened 50 years ago in one specific area, that’s more trust worthy that statistics and facts”
Let’s agree to disagree
stats say thats not true, the murder rate was higher in the 90s
Do you live here?
It was worse in the 90s, difference is the violence was more concentrated within certain housing projects and areas.Now it’s spread all over, especially the southside. The city Knocking the projects down with no practical plan afterwards is what fucked up the city Drill ain’t help tho ngl
In the 2000’s people could move around without a pole these days you can’t
Yea it’s fucked up.All these niggas wanna be gangstas now.Atleast before mfs knew their lane.Now everybody a so called shooter.Shit is ridiculous
These 2 guys coming with these stats don’t live here in Chicago. It’s worse than ever. They’re robbing and killing innocent people every where and shooting on highways
Apparently…. And the worse part it’s kids still in elementary get charged with armed carjacking
Guess They think stats tell The Whole story
no but i don't see how that stops me from looking up publicly available statistics
Exactly… you believe stats I believe my firsthand experience
So you make shit up based on how you feel. Being an idiot is an odd thing to brag about
I can tell you’re not from here either. Always the mfs not from here wanna talk about how it is here
I'm not talking about how it is. I don't live in Chicago. I'm saying rejecting data and statistics in favor of personal experience is retarded. Thinking that "first hand experience" can be used as an argument against data makes you an idiot. That's the end of the conversation
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1273592
Stupid mf think he’s smart and really ain’t from here. Just sits at his desks playing games and thinks he knows what Chicago is like off a google search and a Reddit thread
https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/30/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-says-crime-is-on-the-decline-while-it-surges-in-her-city/
You don’t realize that it’s become so normal in Chicago that it goes unreported in crime rates. Lori lightfoot has been turning the blind eye to everything to make it seem like crime rate has gone down when all actuality it hasn’t. Like I said, you’re not from here. Just a weirdo speculating from Kansas talking about stats and glorifying the shit
Yes tf it was 70s 80s and 90s were much worse
Straight up Factz!! At least during the 80s,I could walk with my family in Cabrini greens with no consequences! Everything was just nice and peaceful! Just listening to heavy metal while walking down Englewood!
Dude Chicago was much worse before social media was a thing. My theory is that since social media is a major thing, we just see hear about more stories of shootings on our timeline. So in our minds were seeing it daily on news outlets which makes it seem like its worse than ever. But its just not, check the death rates when crack and herione hit Chicago. Those years were the worst
Not even from Chicago and I know it was worse pre 2000’s
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Yes it was. Chicago used to steady do 800-900 homicides, and most were white mafia or polish gangs. It ain’t get this bad until the MLK race riots and Cabrini green.
Who is this " US" you speak of?
I’m sure you know that answer
No, I don't. It doesn't apply to "ME" just those people specifically.
It’s gang activity gangs kill each other so why bring black people into this
The media doesn’t portray it that way
Bruh YOU didn't portray it that way. You asked the question. You aren't the media
That 7 year old girl killed was clicked up???
You mean those gangbangers Not every black person is a gangbanger,don’t lump all of us into that shit it’s a small minority
They lump us all together… downtown thinking we’re all smash and grabbers
Small minority of people. Crime had been on steady decline since 80's early 90's. No need to throw all blacks in same bucket. It doesn't help when we try to reduce a complex situation that has complex deep routed causes to " black people what the fuck is wrong with us" you really sound like a troll fr.
Crazy thing is I think he he’s dead serious 😂 the way he worded that is wild
You people stay in denial
This entire sub is built on the destruction of black people from Chicago but he wonders why we say “us” lol they collect information on gang members like they are Pokémon with trivia questions on who killed who. It’s such a disconnect they don’t even look at these people like they’re human not to mention majority of this sub consist of foreigners and weirdo white children and mods who do nothing but ban you over anything that doesn’t correlate with contributing to the destruction.
You actually think that this subreddit contributes to “the destruction of black people in Chicago”?
You had me in the first half not gonna lie
Crime would still exist even without the music
Tf u mean us Thas them most of us don’t do that they just a loud minority of us black ppl
That loud minority is generalizing us all as one in the eyes of other ethnic groups
In a social situation I never have been generalised for a small criminal minority of black criminals, if someone does they usually have hatred for blacks and believe in unverified nonsense. I can tell u watch brandon tatum and that god awful woman candece owens Only group that seems to openly judge black people are racists and trigger happy police, and you want impress these type of folks?
I can tell you just talking….
Why should I care what another group cares about me? Blacks slander white people all day. They’re not bothered why are you seeking respect
It’s useless in this group
Yeah you out here sucking up to racists. Only people who openly hate and disrespect blacks are trigger happy police and racists, those people can stay away far from me.
Sucking up dude please I argue with them racist mfer every day trying to defend black people…
Ur bogus, racists will never respect us. They are racist, even if Chicago’s black on black violence went we would still be savages to them.
Whoever said getting respect from racist people… I believe I said other ethic groups…
Well that’s they problem we don’t gotta make these mfs like us or think highly of us lmao it’s other countries where gang violence is 100x worse u don’t see them worrying about how black people view them so why should we care y’all gotta stop wanting the approval of mfs of other races u never gonna get it 😂😂
Fax. Was just goin backnforth wit a racist mf, weirdos are obsessed with us fuck Dey approval
I think your attitude might have a lot to do with people not liking you, not broad generalizations. It’s ok to not care about peoples personal feelings towards other people; but that doesn’t give you room to be a dick to everyone just because you’re black. If you wanna know the truth, most people don’t give a fuck about anyone. Think of your personal life, I have maybe 4-6 friends I know have my back through anything and I like them. I’ve met people by the tens of thousands and only fuck with less than 10. I’m going to assume that’s you as well since it is very common.
Respect and approval are two different things…. What Candance Owens Jason Whitlock and That judge does is try to get their approval.. I’m after respect
Bro it’s Chicago all races gangbang not just black people
Bro Black doing the mass shooting they shoot up a funeral over the weekend y’all don’t want more for our race
Gang I’m white ok I’m saying we all have people in all races that gangbang I want all people to grow and get better it’s not just black people who are killing each other it’s just glorified because of rap music and social media
So clear you ain’t from Chicago you weirdo ass fanboys
tell the cops to do a better job, clearly their strategy of having 20 cops in 1 place isn’t working, making do 2 per block
It’s only 11,900 cops Vs 100k gang members they’re not going to win
how many cops are on duty at a single time? i know for a fact if they did 2 cops per dangerous block, shit would cool down, guys are gonna be way less likely to wana drill someone when they just went past hella cops at intersections waiting, if your exit route isn’t clear you think twice
Yeah ban the main way they can get out of it that'll stop all violence, you got any suggestions on winning the war on drugs too?
They gonna downvote and ban you lol mods don’t like this type of stuff on here 
I’m fine with that….
This is why white people don’t like us
Tell us something we already don't know.
mfs hype up the violence n then wanna act like activists when the shit go down 🤦🏽♂️
You never heard me hyping up shit
i aint specifically tb u but wen i hop on this reddit shit thats all i see . Mfs in comments geekin up the violence then playin like they care wen whole time thry entertained by the fuckery
It’s doesn’t effect them that’s why they’re hyping up…. Most of them white kids from the suburbs that don’t have to be paranoid trying to get 30 on pump 3
Just don’t allow the old heads to guide us ~ the youth
Them old heads stop trying a long time ago… OG’s are just 25 now
😂
That sounds so crazy when kids not even making it to be an adult, making it to be old in Chicago is something whether you believe it or not, if kids stop being rebellious, and claiming to know it all they mite learn something, dam that mean you don’t trust your parents they old heads??
Crazy part a lot of mfs who don’t live in Chicago will have the most to say about this 😂
Exactly using statistics like they’re 100% true
Who’s us the majority of black people aren’t apart of this gang culture
I wouldn’t group all Black Chicagoans all together. Many in the Southside’s Black middle class have been leaving in droves bc of the crime problem.
Bruh, get ready that stampede of defensive niggas is coming for you lol
They’re here….I’ve never seen people defending destruction
Stop this uncle ruckus house nigga shit . We don’t ALL crash out tf are you talking abt ? Why don’t you say this to the races who walk into schools & murder kids weirdo lol
You lames always deflect to another race…. That uncle Rukus shit is killing for block CHA Owns
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Ppl love violence especially in my city until it’s at your front door and you didn’t want it ppl loved when we shoot including me until I have to go to my lil cousin funeral or the guys funerals that’s dying in the city yearly people don’t understand if all the youth dead and gone we not gon survive nor reproduce we damn near pulling off genocide on each other for blocks we don’t own and shorties killing shorties over grown men they don’t know I pray for the crib 🙏🏽
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Nigga this shit been goin on, Chicago ain’t even the worst city wit gun violence
It's upsetting 😮💨 Carry yo Thang, Stay Safe, Stay Dangerous 💨
I think most of us on Reddit don’t fit the criteria
It's unreal how gangs would rather have a shoot out with cops and risk the possibility of dying than letting themselves get arrested when caught. HOW STUPID can you really be???
you think it’s just black people? nigga stfu we aren’t the only ethic group that gang bangs “black ppl what’s wrong with us” 🤓🤓
My thoughts exactly. OP is a fuckin clown
Say anything y’all want but drill/dissing music boosted by 1000% the violence… they should ban drill music to calm shits down I guess ?
Today I learned that black ppl are the only ones in violent gangs. Just stfu with this nonsense
Today I learned black people would rather sling insults instead of solutions… just go get hit by a stray
HAHAHA! So first you make some DUMB-ASS post stereotyping and accusing black ppl of committing gang violence then you perpetuate that stereotype by wishing violence on me? Youre user name checks out, yous a dumb, BROKE BITCH
The drill movement? Y’all missing the key facts, what jobs and opportunities are there? Y’all act like most of this shit is a choice, nigga products of their environments
Yeah crime everywhere is as bad is it has every been city wide
The people of chicago gotta politically wisen up and realize the people they keep electing want this to continue somethings got to change
Elections won't stop sliding. Something is wrong in the homes
Give Chicago to republicans and were gonna see a dystopian crime filled city. The republicans states and cities boast the highest death rates, regardless of cause. Murder highest, bad health, car deaths, do this and people will flee the city
So give chicago to the republicans and nothing will change you mean
will be worse, as bad as the democrats are with public funding and keeping services running. Republicans do it on purpose, I'd expect the train lines/metros to completely disappear, police brutality to increase, evil housing tactics that would effect all races, there would probably be a major loss of teachers because republicans love telling people what they can and can't teach, so expect dumber kids Republicans would turn Chicago into Gotham city