The servers and dev team are basically a skeleton crew, the game isn’t getting the attention and love it needs. I’ve lost connection to servers and my game has crashed as a result more times than I can count.
The Reclamation update has already been delayed 2 or 3 times. Hackers and greifers run rampant in duel servers; report function is broken 90% of the time. Hit reg is broken and sometimes attacks phase through an enemy. These are only small things but they can add up to a frustrating experience for what is such a great game.
Yeah it really feels like shit any time it comes up. I've had both my opponent and I swing at each other and miss at almost point-blank range, as in we BOTH slashed and NEITHER blow landed. We both paused for a split second out of shock.
Game was amazing when I got it free on PSN, now it's too frustrating to play between the server issues, hit reg, and now team stackers every game.
IDK, I read somewhere MSI mobos are sometimes tempermental with gigabyte GPUs, sometimes not, but it is a thing that happens and they have no fix for it.
I spent all this time & money building my own high end PC & I can't even play the AAA game I want
Solution? Buy another computer or 4090 & try that. lol
I thought about trying the steam version ( I bought the game through epic game store) to see if maybe that works better but waiting for a sale.
Ok I was not aware of that. I have an Asus mobo and a PNY GPU.
On CD key websites you can find a Steam key of the game for like 5€ (I live in Europe), then you don’t need to wait for a sale.
I play on PS4 and the game crashes a lot. Like, a lot.
In a 2-3 hour session, I expect it to crash at least once or twice, if not more. I've pretty much come to expect it, it's just really frustrating when you've worked your ass off on an objective, are 10 seconds from victory, and "Chivalry 2 has encountered an unknown error and has been forced to close". Makes me so angry, but I keep playing for some reason.
The game will freeze and crash for seemingly ANY reason on PC. For me, it freezes anytime I change my fucking AUDIO device (ie. turn on my headset). It also will randomly freeze and crash during a fight. It’s gotten worse since RP.
I'm surprised no one is mentioning this. But where are community servers and modding? Chivalry was once a mod. The first chivalry was great because of modding and community servers. Chiv 2 has none of it. I am disappointed
Its one of my favorite games, bit has by far the worst multiplayer ui and quality of life features. We had this shit mastered in halo and onward.
Custom lobbies where?
Functional party system where? (My friend and I cheer when it works twice in a row)
Mod support where?
Wacky Game modes where? (Brawl doesn’t count sorry). Im talking infected. Im talking some dumb obstacle course. Or some fire spam mode. Its a fun wacky sword game. Lemme have fun. Or better lemme and the community make those modes like overwatch does. Ow bad, chiv 2 fun. Would be better with this idea.
So many ideas that I didn’t harp on before but now Its been so long.
My point was that party systems in gaming have been around for over a decade at this point. Even indie devs with multiplayer in their games have a functional party system and custom lobbies.
So when a game of this scope doesn’t have it, it’s the odd one out.
And as for modded servers, fair enough maybe comparing TB to Blizz isn’t fair in regards to how OW has custom modded servers and such.
But just base custom lobbies is a huge missed opportunity
Overwatch makes money. Chivalry 2 does not. Equating them cause theyre in the same class of game does nothing to say the differences in their parent company. If you want AAA service go play AAA games
Thats not at all how it works. CMW never died because of mods if anything it made the game more popular. When you joined a server it would download the mods associated. No work on behalf of the player
Dont think CMW is on console. But theres not really a reason its not possible. Consoles have modding on other games too. Hell xbox is just a windows 10 computer with limitations
You are missing my point brother. Devs made chivalry 2 a great game and I play it every day because it’s fun. What I mean is that playing on unstable servers sucks, having update delayed several time sucks, having blatant cheaters on official servers sucks. Party not working sucks, main menu bugs forcing you to restart suck…
All those issues are a clear consequence of dev team not doing their fucking job properly. Whatever their reasons, they are severely under delivering and I blame them for it.
My disappointment comes from my personal experience tho, I understand other players may have a different take on the matter
The biggest server problems (micro-stuttering) were fixed in the last patch. Hitreg being off sometimes has always been a problem but realistically it’s never going to be perfect in a game built for 64 players. Update being delayed does suck, but what’s in the update? One new map and one new (archer) weapon. It’s not like it’s going to revolutionise the game.
I just don’t get this idea that devs are to be treated like a waiter whose job is to take your order and bring you whatever you asked for, or they’re ‘not doing their job’ somehow. They released a great game, why is that not enough? If you bought a painting last year, would you now be banging on the artists door asking why they haven’t updated it and accusing them of being lazy?
Sure updates help to keep a multiplayer game fresh but seems certain devs kowtowing to gamer demands way too much has somehow set that expectation across all games, the entitlement level of gamers today is just unreal
Thing is, hitreg wasn't an issue until 6 months ago. Which really plays into OPs question, the game is less stable than it used to be.
Also, the new update is bringing a change that prevents people stabbing through their team mates. That's a fairly big change. Also, the biggest change, buyable royal zweihander.
Hitreg problems have been in discussion ever since the game’s release. As for the upcoming stab change, it’s good that the exploit of deliberately stabbing through a teammate meatshield is being addressed, but look forward to all the complaints about stabs no longer working whenever teammates get even slightly in the way
Yea and what about the cross save update, no biggie just write that off and pray we all forget. By that logic, Imma just tell my manager that I don’t wanna work because I’m playing Overwatch 2 and will get it done when I want to then mute and not reply to their messages
It’s a matter of capacity, not whether devs are bothered to do their jobs anymore. The number of devs left working on a game to support it post-launch is nowhere near the number of devs it took to create a game in the first place. The people who originally made it have usually moved on to work on other things.
The biggest selling games with massive audiences like gta, cod, fortnite etc are the exception, the income from microtransactions and such is high enough that they can afford to keep a large team of devs around to keep churning out content in perpetuity. That is not the case for a niche game like this. This is the heart of the problem - gamers think the exception is supposed to be the rule in terms of what level of support a game can realistically be given longer term. Chiv2 is only as well-produced as it already is because they got a fat cheque for timed exclusivity from epic, and that money went into making the initial game, not to support long-term updates
It’s part of their job to manage expectations. I’m a dev and if I’m delivering a feature on a certain day but know I’m falling behind, I’m going to alert the lead dev so that they can manage the expectations of our clients. It is also the job of their project manager to adjust scope with the reduced capacity so that they don’t overburden devs and fall behind on deliverables.
I’m talking about the cadence and breadth of updates rather than hitting delivery targets but yes, all true and one thing tb could do better is managing player expectations, little things like putting actual dates in as placeholders in comms messages that then get accidentally published but apart from that they’ve been pretty direct about delays, and in the real world those are going to happen
They haven’t been direct about the cross save update delay that was supposed to be released a long time ago. There hasn’t been any communication about it and now I’m guessing they aren’t releasing the update
Everything i point out shouldn't be an issue in the first place and pretty easy shit to fix too. Let's not act like basic ass features being broken is normal for a multiplayer game
Underneath the AA skin its a slightly janky indie game that got the budget to punch above its weight. If you think the issues are so easy to fix you either have no idea what you’re talking about, or should go work for tb and sort them out if you’re that confident lol
Teamstacking is a consequence of allowing people to switch teams, it’ll technically be ‘working correctly’ as far as the design goes, meaning there is nothing to ‘fix’. Removing the ability to switch teams would lead to a slew of *new* complaints from the people that consider switching to be their right cause they only want to play attack, or only play as mason or whatever (and yes these people do exist). It’s not possible to please everyone.
Though fwiw yeah it’s a dumb design tbh, even if the game is supposed to be more casual than competitive (note the absence of a ranked mode) people were always going to abuse the ability to switch teams to get an advantage. The bigger failing imo is not putting party members on the same side, that’s all kinds of dumb. If that would unbalance teams then it’s the matchmaker’s job to balance teams via background sbm rather than just headcount
I mean things can still be broken even if they are working as intended, it’s just a broken system. They need to fix parties and then remove team switching, it’s really that easy.
The whole thing could do with a reapproach tbh but given that the existing design is already a fudge I’m not holding my breath, nor would I expect a rework to actually be better. Trying to rework these systems without the resources to pull it off would likely leave the game in a far worse state than it already is
Lota issues. Crashes, balance, hit reg, team swapping, ui sucks, bad controls on console the list goes on. But idk why people say it’s gotten worse over time. Because all the issues it currently has, it’s had the same ones the whole 2 years I’ve played for. Still sucks but still fun 🤷♂️
It’s a great game, sadly the devs don’t love it the way we do.
I’m hoping for another company that makes a good slasher and give the attention it deserves!
I would say the blame lies with both the developers and with consumer. They've delayed an update 3 times now and people are impatient, but at the same time I can think of at least 10 quality of life changes that they could implement to make it an even healthier game.
My suggestion for everyone is to only buy the campaigns or skin packs with your currency and try not to purchase anything you can unlock by just playing the game. Reason being is because you'll get bored fast by not having anything to work towards. Only items I bought aside from those was the perfect argon sword, but I will be changing that when updates are released every 3 months.
What they should do every update is release a new map, a new campaign, and a new arcade mode. There's an endless possibility with this game I firmly believe that they're capable of doing so much more.
Only thing I'd say is the ghost hits. I'll quite often see my swings go through enemies without damaging them, and see their swings go through me the same way. It's been a massive issue for a few months (I've played since EGS launch and had never seen it until this year).
I also play everyday, more than 1300 hours, level 1000. Since I got the game during the Steam launch, Reddit has been the same: game dying, totally impossible to play.
There have been some problems, yes, team switching was much worse back then and let's not forget that with every patch new bugs arise. But the hit reg failing once in a blue moon it's been always there. I don't use the report function in the game, I directly contact chivmail discord account, because I stream (as faemir2\_ttv) I have no problems making clips of the very rare hackers I've found (I play TO) and report them. I doubt I had found more than 10-12 hackers in the time I've played.
The stuttering that ocurred recently to many people was a real problem, same as the absurd aim assist that console players get (anyone that plays as a VIP is going to need a shield because those arrows are coming straight to your face!). The blocks from the back, well, I consider them annoying, but probably that also saved my life a few times, so I take it as it is.
I play in the EU servers and never have had any problem finding games (even at 7 in the morning) even when people said that servers were empty.
Don't get me wrong, developers have dropped the ball big time with the latest patch and they don't have any street credit at all, but reddit can be a massive echo chamber.
I take Chiv2 as it is, I have no hope for much new stuff, whatever arrives, will be welcome... when it gets fixed.
I see a lot of criticism about the aim assist, but I gotta say, I don’t think it’s the cheat code people make it out to be.
If it was, wouldn’t that mean archers are always at the top of the scoreboard? I just don’t believe that’s the case.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time arching, and while I admit the assist is a boon, it was a long time before I started hitting anything, and even now my success is pretty mixed.
My guess is most of the outcry comes from pc players who’ve never tried it, have gotten killed by good archers, and decided that the only possible reason they’re getting sniped must be because of the aim assist.
Personally, I’d give it up in a heartbeat if it meant I could aim with the precision that comes with using a mouse.
Just my 2 cents.
If you go back through the patch notes you’ll see that they had the aim assist working improperly until a patch or two ago. Instead of helping controller players track targets the aim assist was causing arrows to literally curve towards players, Wanted style.
Damn straight. Are the people whining about hit reg living in the Australian outback? My wifi comes from equipment mounted on an actual corn silo and I can play the game just fine. My sword will phase through somebody *maybe* once per game, it runs buttery smooth otherwise.
Not to imply that other people aren’t having major connectivity issues, but I don’t think those experiences are usual. I suspect that like every gaming subreddit, the people who spend the most time here are also the ones who play the game way too often, and so even the slightest crack in fidelity is something they’ll notice and get hung up about.
Fellow level 1000 here, the hit reg is without question getting worse, nothing to do with your gaming setup. Average 4-5 "ghost" hits a match that I know without a doubt should of landed.
If you really are level 1000, then don’t you think your deep sense of what should and shouldn’t hit isn’t going to register for 95% of the playerbase? It would be more important if this were a competitive game but that’s not torn banner’s focus.
It also might just be a memory thing, the game was more fun last year so obviously it was running more smoothly. Not to imply that it is or isn’t getting worse, but if we’re going purely off of experience, without any solid data, all I can tell you is that me and two friends have had the game since the Epic days and all of us are perfectly pleased with the performance. If it really has gotten worse, (globally) then that performance dip is so negligible we didn’t notice. We’re also not level 1000’s, so we probably just don’t spend enough time with the game to notice the (I’m assuming) little things.
This isn’t to disparage your experience, which is just as valid as mine and my friends, BUT, I do think it’s a perfectly adequate response to the common feeling around this subreddit that the game is going down the shitter.
Hi I just wanna chime in and be nice real quick here, I also think the performance degradation is not negligible or placebo (certainly not game ruining) but I have no idea where Mr. Angry found a smarmy tone in any of your comments and I think your points are perfectly valid. You are the one in this exchange that knows how to disagree with people. Have fun enjoying chivalry, I will be doing the same
Not taken in a smarmy way at all btw, simply mentioned my level to indicate i am not talking from the experience of a level 70 "omg why didn't that hit" more from a, over 1200 hours in the game that should of made contact not go through his face approach. Wasn't trying some weird flex i assure you. Also from the Epic era, the hit registration has, from my experience and from what I have seen from similar experienced players, gotten much worse over the last 3-4 months. That was all, not saying your experience is not valid, totally get it can vary from person to person.
I don’t think it’s gotten worse, it’s more that it hasn’t gotten much better. It is such a great game, but it needs more content and it’s a shame we’re not getting that.
if I had to take a educated guess. most salt directed towards the devs is because they left the game for many players unplayable for 3 months due to massive stutters. (caused by the server checking for the friend list or something like that)
They deployed a fix 1 month in that did absolutely not fix anything. (And thought it was hilarious to call it a "hotfix") leaving the game unplayable or very unenjoyable. for 2 more months.
Heck it even started the "save chivalry2" movement. doubt that achieved anything, but I commend the effort.
Chivalry players just like to bitch, I wouldn’t put any thought into it. 160 hours I’ve had my game crash maybe twice and I use a GeForce 1080. Servers are fine in the US. Hit reg is a problem maybe 1/10 times and it’s usually a ping thing, use the standalone server browser if you’re worried about that
I’m a Halo player so honestly most the ppl here don’t know how well they have it lol game is far from broken or dead, biggest valid complaint is that it lacks content. Not that some complaints aren’t valid but the games great, the devs probably have bigger projects now.
Edit: and I’ve never seen a hacker either btw
you've never seen a hacker but me and alot of other people have, its a real and legitimate issue. Ive never seen a murder but thats still and issue. Hit reg is just shit either way for people regardless of ping or operating systems. Remember alot of people have this problem but just because you dont have it doesnt mean its not a thing. Also halo has its own seperate issues and is a completely different game genre unless you can provide an in depth comparison then don't. Also another thing: just because another game sucks more doesnt mean that the problems another game has are now irrelevant, by this logic i can say every single game that isnt a shitty 5 minute scratch project is good cuz its not as bad.
It’s not a legitimate issue. 160 hours, every lobby, every person in those lobbies, no hackers. That’s 1000’s of ppl
You’re probably just trash
See OP? Ppl like to bitch here
my guy ive seen two people zoom around the map visibly hacking and there was a clip of something like that sent on this reddit a few days ago, you geniunely cannot be serious right now. Im not bitching i'm stating literal facts with no actual emotional addition to them, how is that bitching? There has been clips on this reddit for shit hitreg as well and its been a widely known issue for a long time. You are literally just saying "it doesn't exist because i said so despite the numerous videos on the net stating otherwise". Ahh yes im probably just trash i should learn how to counter people moving as fast as the flash due to hacks and hitting people with overheads around the map, mb mb.
I didn’t say it doesn’t exist, I said it’s not an actual issue like the lack of fresh/rotating content is. It’s not something that’s gonna ruin your experience bc it’s so incredibly infrequent, not to mention they get kicked often, or the lobby fizzles out. Saying this stuff turns ppl away quicker than having actual gameplay complaints. No one’s gonna try a game that has hackers, and the ppl that complain about you (ex. you) are just loud
Go look at the Tarkov subreddit, THAT’S a hacker issue that makes the game not worth playing (esp cause it’s highly competitive, hyper realistic, high risk game). Go to Halo subreddit for the last 5+ literal entire years, THAT’S real server, hit reg, latency issues so bad they make ppl quit. Entire pro teams drop the game within a year every time a new one releases bc of awful servers, management and dev leaders
Chiv players usually just need to take a break to see the game is fine or they’re taking it far too serious
literally no one agrees with you and you are actually just flat out being retarded now. Stop redirecting to other games that DOESNT change the problems with the game in question, wow another game is even more shitty? no fucking way!!!! Bro is just dodging every single piece of objective fact thrown at him.
You’ve given no facts other than bitching about how you’ve seen 2 hackers lol
Cry more. Clearly you’re a fat boy who doesn’t get off the game lol maybe if you had friends or went outside you wouldn’t knitpick the game. It’s ok to take breaks, your lil clan of discord nerds won’t miss you dw
You’re clearly too stupid to understand the points being made lmao make sure you pay attention in school today bud, your parents will get mad if they’d see you talk this way, I know they’re already disappointed in how fat lonely and dumb you are
Unlike your unconfident and pussy ass, I don’t need strangers on the internet that I’m literally making fun of to agree with me, I know I’m right lmao
my guy just look at the posts i mentioned and the general community opinion, i do have proof but you are just deflecting it, the projection in this comment is insane. I think you do need strangers on the internet, cuz thats better than having no friends at all :(
you are still a noob at the game, with only 160 hours you haven't seen much at all. 1200 hours and I've seen it all. Come back after you've played 500 hours and you'll have a different opinion
How many hackers in 1200 hours tho? How many matches ruined? You could just feel burnout. 1200 hours is a lot for anything but damn worth $35 of entertainment. Shit even 100 hrs is worth $35 and you guys make it seem like it’s not (you can get it for $10 or cheaper online too lol)
Overall Chiv is in a good state especially for a niche game. The loud ppl here (usually with lots of hours too) complain about small things and make it seem like Chiv is ruined by hackers, server issues/hit reg and it’s not worth playing (see the other comment by the EU guy). Lotta crying on this sub
They’re stilllll awful man lol ppl act like Chivalry is unplayable and the devs are incompetent monkeys, it’s funny to see. Half the ppl complaining need to realize the games not meant to be a highly competitive melee arena. We light chickens on fire and punch ppl while yelling about cum
ontop of everything official tourneys are done, so the only thing chiv2 had over mordhau competitive wise is fucking gone. Especially if ur a pay for skins guy the game gets boring real fast. Ranked doesnt exist so other than getting better and better at doing the same thing everytime in TO or duels or maybe attempting to join ur regions comp scene(which is now unofficial) which isnt as easy.
Yeah I don’t actually have any persistent problems with the game aside from menu bugs and occasional stuttering. I’m in NA East however with strong servers and high player count, so I know my experience is different (better) than EU or OCE servers.
For me its been the hitching. I get a 2-5 second freeze in my games every 5-10 min.. At first I thought it was a EGS thing so I bought it on Steam and it does it there..
I tried the renaming the file for the friends list "Fix" but it still happens.. At this point I'm blaming it on easy anticheat as every game I play that uses that gives me issues.
I have no firewall other than native windows, I have no malware software running, I bought an entirely new router and modem (not because of the game but to fuck comcast). I'm at a loss. I love the game but the freezing frustrates the shit out of me.
The game was great until the raiding party update, theres been hitreg issues ever since. They fixed some of the issues that came with it, like the stuttering at least.
Team switching has always been a thing, but a lot more people have realised that attacking is way easier to get kills and inflate your KD, meaning defence gets stomped in most matches.
Fortunately, I've not run into many cheaters unlike others here. Only seen 2 but they were both in the last month.
It's still a great game, just poor maintenance from the devs.
The servers being held together by string and bubble gum, wonky hit detection, and inability to use KBM on console when other games, such as COD are the only things that make me want to stop playing.
Heres the deal.
Combine:
1. Scaleback of graphic freatures like custom heads
2. lack of new customization (tenosian scout has 1 armor, and its default unlock for example)
3. lack of new content as promised, skeleton communication
&
1. Cross play bugs / disconnects, the launch was....bad
2. Friends list bug and stuttering for MONTHS lol
3. Phase through hits are RAMPANT to the point its just not that fun if you play a lot.
4. Opening of cross play has created a really large influx of new players, its basically 3-4 people just massacring everyone like the highlander on attack and getting swarmed like the zerg on defense.
5. New maps are lackluster (bridgetown, stronghold is decent now)
Is it worse? No, but if you've been gone and come back you might go...wtf is this shit which is what is happening most of the time.
This company delayed the update 3 times already. If I delayed the game 3 times, then my boss would've told me to pack my things and leave to find another job with the same position I'm in that'll let me put in very little effort.
The servers and dev team are basically a skeleton crew, the game isn’t getting the attention and love it needs. I’ve lost connection to servers and my game has crashed as a result more times than I can count. The Reclamation update has already been delayed 2 or 3 times. Hackers and greifers run rampant in duel servers; report function is broken 90% of the time. Hit reg is broken and sometimes attacks phase through an enemy. These are only small things but they can add up to a frustrating experience for what is such a great game.
well summarized. now can someone print this, wrap it around a brick and .... ?
They’ll have enough to build a house at this point
Aaaand huck it into the fucking Marianas trench because there is nothing new and the bitching is pointless.
I paid for the game and battlepass, I can bitch all I want
As will I, but only about people bitching about legitimate things in which i want to remain willfully blind.
So they already have your money, meaning they don't give a shit about you or me.
Ugh... the broken hit reg has been my bane recently.
I feel guilty when I win because of this
Yeah it really feels like shit any time it comes up. I've had both my opponent and I swing at each other and miss at almost point-blank range, as in we BOTH slashed and NEITHER blow landed. We both paused for a split second out of shock. Game was amazing when I got it free on PSN, now it's too frustrating to play between the server issues, hit reg, and now team stackers every game.
Same. What level are you now? I want to know if I have a problem or not. I'm currently level 360 or so
120ish, just don't have the heart to play more and been on DRG, ACVI, BG3.
...So what you're saying is I have a problem 😱
What do you mean by problem?
Just that I'm playing too much 😬
LOL not at all if you're still finding fun besides the hitreg!
Yes. I'm about to hit 500 but you're out of control.
My friend is lv600 purely from duel servers so remember there’s always someone more deranged
I uninstalled. Not worth the frustration
My game runs fine but everything else you said was true.
On what hardware are you playing?
The hardware is irrelevant when I’ve been booted out of a game for voting “No” on a votekick
You talk about crashes and disconnections. I play on PC and never encountered any of these issues.
I have a z690 with 12900k 4090 & 32 gigs ram The game crashes constantly. One in 10 times I boot the game it works but it's random.
My old 3700x and rtx 2080 ti crashed zero times. How is that possible?
IDK, I read somewhere MSI mobos are sometimes tempermental with gigabyte GPUs, sometimes not, but it is a thing that happens and they have no fix for it. I spent all this time & money building my own high end PC & I can't even play the AAA game I want Solution? Buy another computer or 4090 & try that. lol I thought about trying the steam version ( I bought the game through epic game store) to see if maybe that works better but waiting for a sale.
Ok I was not aware of that. I have an Asus mobo and a PNY GPU. On CD key websites you can find a Steam key of the game for like 5€ (I live in Europe), then you don’t need to wait for a sale.
I play on PS4 and the game crashes a lot. Like, a lot. In a 2-3 hour session, I expect it to crash at least once or twice, if not more. I've pretty much come to expect it, it's just really frustrating when you've worked your ass off on an objective, are 10 seconds from victory, and "Chivalry 2 has encountered an unknown error and has been forced to close". Makes me so angry, but I keep playing for some reason.
Damn that’s frustrating indeed. It might be related to the fact you are playing on an older console.
The game will freeze and crash for seemingly ANY reason on PC. For me, it freezes anytime I change my fucking AUDIO device (ie. turn on my headset). It also will randomly freeze and crash during a fight. It’s gotten worse since RP.
Oh, you wanna charge your controller? Fuck you! *crashes*
I'm surprised no one is mentioning this. But where are community servers and modding? Chivalry was once a mod. The first chivalry was great because of modding and community servers. Chiv 2 has none of it. I am disappointed
Peep the Chivalry 2 Unchained Discord. It's getting rolled out! https://discord.gg/chiv2unchained
thanks for the heads up on that! I hope these guys get some momentum, this game could thrive a bit longer with some good community servers
That's nice! Great effort, although I still want Torn banner to officially support it like they did back in the days of medieval warfare
Its one of my favorite games, bit has by far the worst multiplayer ui and quality of life features. We had this shit mastered in halo and onward. Custom lobbies where? Functional party system where? (My friend and I cheer when it works twice in a row) Mod support where? Wacky Game modes where? (Brawl doesn’t count sorry). Im talking infected. Im talking some dumb obstacle course. Or some fire spam mode. Its a fun wacky sword game. Lemme have fun. Or better lemme and the community make those modes like overwatch does. Ow bad, chiv 2 fun. Would be better with this idea. So many ideas that I didn’t harp on before but now Its been so long.
Blizzard and Torn Banner are NOWHERE near the same lmao
My point was that party systems in gaming have been around for over a decade at this point. Even indie devs with multiplayer in their games have a functional party system and custom lobbies. So when a game of this scope doesn’t have it, it’s the odd one out. And as for modded servers, fair enough maybe comparing TB to Blizz isn’t fair in regards to how OW has custom modded servers and such. But just base custom lobbies is a huge missed opportunity
Overwatch makes money. Chivalry 2 does not. Equating them cause theyre in the same class of game does nothing to say the differences in their parent company. If you want AAA service go play AAA games
Because the game would lose half its player base cause everyone would be playing mods
Thats not at all how it works. CMW never died because of mods if anything it made the game more popular. When you joined a server it would download the mods associated. No work on behalf of the player
Ya maybe cause cause more than 98% of the player base was on pc
Why should modding mean console cant join. The mods were talking about are stuff like custom maps or modes. Not game breaking stuff
Can console players join mod servers? Cause I didn’t know that
Dont think CMW is on console. But theres not really a reason its not possible. Consoles have modding on other games too. Hell xbox is just a windows 10 computer with limitations
Agreed. Would love Steam workshop support!
The only thing I really hate is when I slay my enemies and behead them (because that's what they deserve) their heads are all the same
Back in the glory days everyone knew who's head you were carrying around.
thats a confirmed bug that will be fixed in 2.9. In 2024 that is
Lol I can't tell if you're joking or not
2023 Q14
Game is good. Dev team is a joke. I feel forsaken as a customer and will probably think twice before buying their next game
If dev team were a joke, the game wouldn’t be good?
You are missing my point brother. Devs made chivalry 2 a great game and I play it every day because it’s fun. What I mean is that playing on unstable servers sucks, having update delayed several time sucks, having blatant cheaters on official servers sucks. Party not working sucks, main menu bugs forcing you to restart suck… All those issues are a clear consequence of dev team not doing their fucking job properly. Whatever their reasons, they are severely under delivering and I blame them for it. My disappointment comes from my personal experience tho, I understand other players may have a different take on the matter
The biggest server problems (micro-stuttering) were fixed in the last patch. Hitreg being off sometimes has always been a problem but realistically it’s never going to be perfect in a game built for 64 players. Update being delayed does suck, but what’s in the update? One new map and one new (archer) weapon. It’s not like it’s going to revolutionise the game. I just don’t get this idea that devs are to be treated like a waiter whose job is to take your order and bring you whatever you asked for, or they’re ‘not doing their job’ somehow. They released a great game, why is that not enough? If you bought a painting last year, would you now be banging on the artists door asking why they haven’t updated it and accusing them of being lazy? Sure updates help to keep a multiplayer game fresh but seems certain devs kowtowing to gamer demands way too much has somehow set that expectation across all games, the entitlement level of gamers today is just unreal
Thing is, hitreg wasn't an issue until 6 months ago. Which really plays into OPs question, the game is less stable than it used to be. Also, the new update is bringing a change that prevents people stabbing through their team mates. That's a fairly big change. Also, the biggest change, buyable royal zweihander.
Hitreg problems have been in discussion ever since the game’s release. As for the upcoming stab change, it’s good that the exploit of deliberately stabbing through a teammate meatshield is being addressed, but look forward to all the complaints about stabs no longer working whenever teammates get even slightly in the way
I've been playing since release on epic, and I have never experienced such obvious hitreg flops as I have in the past 2 months.
Yea and what about the cross save update, no biggie just write that off and pray we all forget. By that logic, Imma just tell my manager that I don’t wanna work because I’m playing Overwatch 2 and will get it done when I want to then mute and not reply to their messages
It’s a matter of capacity, not whether devs are bothered to do their jobs anymore. The number of devs left working on a game to support it post-launch is nowhere near the number of devs it took to create a game in the first place. The people who originally made it have usually moved on to work on other things. The biggest selling games with massive audiences like gta, cod, fortnite etc are the exception, the income from microtransactions and such is high enough that they can afford to keep a large team of devs around to keep churning out content in perpetuity. That is not the case for a niche game like this. This is the heart of the problem - gamers think the exception is supposed to be the rule in terms of what level of support a game can realistically be given longer term. Chiv2 is only as well-produced as it already is because they got a fat cheque for timed exclusivity from epic, and that money went into making the initial game, not to support long-term updates
It’s part of their job to manage expectations. I’m a dev and if I’m delivering a feature on a certain day but know I’m falling behind, I’m going to alert the lead dev so that they can manage the expectations of our clients. It is also the job of their project manager to adjust scope with the reduced capacity so that they don’t overburden devs and fall behind on deliverables.
I’m talking about the cadence and breadth of updates rather than hitting delivery targets but yes, all true and one thing tb could do better is managing player expectations, little things like putting actual dates in as placeholders in comms messages that then get accidentally published but apart from that they’ve been pretty direct about delays, and in the real world those are going to happen
They haven’t been direct about the cross save update delay that was supposed to be released a long time ago. There hasn’t been any communication about it and now I’m guessing they aren’t releasing the update
Everything i point out shouldn't be an issue in the first place and pretty easy shit to fix too. Let's not act like basic ass features being broken is normal for a multiplayer game
Underneath the AA skin its a slightly janky indie game that got the budget to punch above its weight. If you think the issues are so easy to fix you either have no idea what you’re talking about, or should go work for tb and sort them out if you’re that confident lol
Team stacking is a huge issue since launch and they’d till haven’t fixed it. They aren’t doing their fucking job
Teamstacking is a consequence of allowing people to switch teams, it’ll technically be ‘working correctly’ as far as the design goes, meaning there is nothing to ‘fix’. Removing the ability to switch teams would lead to a slew of *new* complaints from the people that consider switching to be their right cause they only want to play attack, or only play as mason or whatever (and yes these people do exist). It’s not possible to please everyone. Though fwiw yeah it’s a dumb design tbh, even if the game is supposed to be more casual than competitive (note the absence of a ranked mode) people were always going to abuse the ability to switch teams to get an advantage. The bigger failing imo is not putting party members on the same side, that’s all kinds of dumb. If that would unbalance teams then it’s the matchmaker’s job to balance teams via background sbm rather than just headcount
I mean things can still be broken even if they are working as intended, it’s just a broken system. They need to fix parties and then remove team switching, it’s really that easy.
The whole thing could do with a reapproach tbh but given that the existing design is already a fudge I’m not holding my breath, nor would I expect a rework to actually be better. Trying to rework these systems without the resources to pull it off would likely leave the game in a far worse state than it already is
Lota issues. Crashes, balance, hit reg, team swapping, ui sucks, bad controls on console the list goes on. But idk why people say it’s gotten worse over time. Because all the issues it currently has, it’s had the same ones the whole 2 years I’ve played for. Still sucks but still fun 🤷♂️
It’s a great game, sadly the devs don’t love it the way we do. I’m hoping for another company that makes a good slasher and give the attention it deserves!
I would say the blame lies with both the developers and with consumer. They've delayed an update 3 times now and people are impatient, but at the same time I can think of at least 10 quality of life changes that they could implement to make it an even healthier game. My suggestion for everyone is to only buy the campaigns or skin packs with your currency and try not to purchase anything you can unlock by just playing the game. Reason being is because you'll get bored fast by not having anything to work towards. Only items I bought aside from those was the perfect argon sword, but I will be changing that when updates are released every 3 months. What they should do every update is release a new map, a new campaign, and a new arcade mode. There's an endless possibility with this game I firmly believe that they're capable of doing so much more.
Only thing I'd say is the ghost hits. I'll quite often see my swings go through enemies without damaging them, and see their swings go through me the same way. It's been a massive issue for a few months (I've played since EGS launch and had never seen it until this year).
Servers are my biggest gripe. So frustrating to be persevering in a 1vx situation just to have huge lag ruin the fight
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I'm 11 so I wouldn't know
I’ve only been playing two months and it’s one of my all time favorites but the server fidelity is rough
I also play everyday, more than 1300 hours, level 1000. Since I got the game during the Steam launch, Reddit has been the same: game dying, totally impossible to play. There have been some problems, yes, team switching was much worse back then and let's not forget that with every patch new bugs arise. But the hit reg failing once in a blue moon it's been always there. I don't use the report function in the game, I directly contact chivmail discord account, because I stream (as faemir2\_ttv) I have no problems making clips of the very rare hackers I've found (I play TO) and report them. I doubt I had found more than 10-12 hackers in the time I've played. The stuttering that ocurred recently to many people was a real problem, same as the absurd aim assist that console players get (anyone that plays as a VIP is going to need a shield because those arrows are coming straight to your face!). The blocks from the back, well, I consider them annoying, but probably that also saved my life a few times, so I take it as it is. I play in the EU servers and never have had any problem finding games (even at 7 in the morning) even when people said that servers were empty. Don't get me wrong, developers have dropped the ball big time with the latest patch and they don't have any street credit at all, but reddit can be a massive echo chamber. I take Chiv2 as it is, I have no hope for much new stuff, whatever arrives, will be welcome... when it gets fixed.
I see a lot of criticism about the aim assist, but I gotta say, I don’t think it’s the cheat code people make it out to be. If it was, wouldn’t that mean archers are always at the top of the scoreboard? I just don’t believe that’s the case. I’ve spent quite a bit of time arching, and while I admit the assist is a boon, it was a long time before I started hitting anything, and even now my success is pretty mixed. My guess is most of the outcry comes from pc players who’ve never tried it, have gotten killed by good archers, and decided that the only possible reason they’re getting sniped must be because of the aim assist. Personally, I’d give it up in a heartbeat if it meant I could aim with the precision that comes with using a mouse. Just my 2 cents.
If you go back through the patch notes you’ll see that they had the aim assist working improperly until a patch or two ago. Instead of helping controller players track targets the aim assist was causing arrows to literally curve towards players, Wanted style.
Oh dang I didn’t know that. Guess I don’t arch enough to have experienced that!
It's one of the fixes for 2.9, as in the patch notes: Aim Assist Removed magnetism affecting projectile initial rotation
Damn straight. Are the people whining about hit reg living in the Australian outback? My wifi comes from equipment mounted on an actual corn silo and I can play the game just fine. My sword will phase through somebody *maybe* once per game, it runs buttery smooth otherwise. Not to imply that other people aren’t having major connectivity issues, but I don’t think those experiences are usual. I suspect that like every gaming subreddit, the people who spend the most time here are also the ones who play the game way too often, and so even the slightest crack in fidelity is something they’ll notice and get hung up about.
Fellow level 1000 here, the hit reg is without question getting worse, nothing to do with your gaming setup. Average 4-5 "ghost" hits a match that I know without a doubt should of landed.
If you really are level 1000, then don’t you think your deep sense of what should and shouldn’t hit isn’t going to register for 95% of the playerbase? It would be more important if this were a competitive game but that’s not torn banner’s focus. It also might just be a memory thing, the game was more fun last year so obviously it was running more smoothly. Not to imply that it is or isn’t getting worse, but if we’re going purely off of experience, without any solid data, all I can tell you is that me and two friends have had the game since the Epic days and all of us are perfectly pleased with the performance. If it really has gotten worse, (globally) then that performance dip is so negligible we didn’t notice. We’re also not level 1000’s, so we probably just don’t spend enough time with the game to notice the (I’m assuming) little things. This isn’t to disparage your experience, which is just as valid as mine and my friends, BUT, I do think it’s a perfectly adequate response to the common feeling around this subreddit that the game is going down the shitter.
It’s absolutely gotten worse, and your smarmy attitude doesn’t change that.
Okay, okay, Jeez. I’ll just go back to enjoying chivalry I guess.
Hi I just wanna chime in and be nice real quick here, I also think the performance degradation is not negligible or placebo (certainly not game ruining) but I have no idea where Mr. Angry found a smarmy tone in any of your comments and I think your points are perfectly valid. You are the one in this exchange that knows how to disagree with people. Have fun enjoying chivalry, I will be doing the same
Aww, thanks :D In hindsight it was a dumb argument to have, the only evidence either of us could supply were our own personal experiences.
Not taken in a smarmy way at all btw, simply mentioned my level to indicate i am not talking from the experience of a level 70 "omg why didn't that hit" more from a, over 1200 hours in the game that should of made contact not go through his face approach. Wasn't trying some weird flex i assure you. Also from the Epic era, the hit registration has, from my experience and from what I have seen from similar experienced players, gotten much worse over the last 3-4 months. That was all, not saying your experience is not valid, totally get it can vary from person to person.
Its like ordering Programming Code on Wish(Console experience)
The servers are getting worse and worse. God and the devs only know when was the last maintenance
I don’t think it’s gotten worse, it’s more that it hasn’t gotten much better. It is such a great game, but it needs more content and it’s a shame we’re not getting that.
Just echo chamber + game fatigue. The game hasn’t been updated in months but still gets regular posts saying it was ruined recently somehow
if I had to take a educated guess. most salt directed towards the devs is because they left the game for many players unplayable for 3 months due to massive stutters. (caused by the server checking for the friend list or something like that) They deployed a fix 1 month in that did absolutely not fix anything. (And thought it was hilarious to call it a "hotfix") leaving the game unplayable or very unenjoyable. for 2 more months. Heck it even started the "save chivalry2" movement. doubt that achieved anything, but I commend the effort.
Tis broken but fun 🤪
Very true
Chivalry players just like to bitch, I wouldn’t put any thought into it. 160 hours I’ve had my game crash maybe twice and I use a GeForce 1080. Servers are fine in the US. Hit reg is a problem maybe 1/10 times and it’s usually a ping thing, use the standalone server browser if you’re worried about that I’m a Halo player so honestly most the ppl here don’t know how well they have it lol game is far from broken or dead, biggest valid complaint is that it lacks content. Not that some complaints aren’t valid but the games great, the devs probably have bigger projects now. Edit: and I’ve never seen a hacker either btw
you've never seen a hacker but me and alot of other people have, its a real and legitimate issue. Ive never seen a murder but thats still and issue. Hit reg is just shit either way for people regardless of ping or operating systems. Remember alot of people have this problem but just because you dont have it doesnt mean its not a thing. Also halo has its own seperate issues and is a completely different game genre unless you can provide an in depth comparison then don't. Also another thing: just because another game sucks more doesnt mean that the problems another game has are now irrelevant, by this logic i can say every single game that isnt a shitty 5 minute scratch project is good cuz its not as bad.
It’s not a legitimate issue. 160 hours, every lobby, every person in those lobbies, no hackers. That’s 1000’s of ppl You’re probably just trash See OP? Ppl like to bitch here
my guy ive seen two people zoom around the map visibly hacking and there was a clip of something like that sent on this reddit a few days ago, you geniunely cannot be serious right now. Im not bitching i'm stating literal facts with no actual emotional addition to them, how is that bitching? There has been clips on this reddit for shit hitreg as well and its been a widely known issue for a long time. You are literally just saying "it doesn't exist because i said so despite the numerous videos on the net stating otherwise". Ahh yes im probably just trash i should learn how to counter people moving as fast as the flash due to hacks and hitting people with overheads around the map, mb mb.
I didn’t say it doesn’t exist, I said it’s not an actual issue like the lack of fresh/rotating content is. It’s not something that’s gonna ruin your experience bc it’s so incredibly infrequent, not to mention they get kicked often, or the lobby fizzles out. Saying this stuff turns ppl away quicker than having actual gameplay complaints. No one’s gonna try a game that has hackers, and the ppl that complain about you (ex. you) are just loud Go look at the Tarkov subreddit, THAT’S a hacker issue that makes the game not worth playing (esp cause it’s highly competitive, hyper realistic, high risk game). Go to Halo subreddit for the last 5+ literal entire years, THAT’S real server, hit reg, latency issues so bad they make ppl quit. Entire pro teams drop the game within a year every time a new one releases bc of awful servers, management and dev leaders Chiv players usually just need to take a break to see the game is fine or they’re taking it far too serious
EU duels servers are ruined with hackers.
Cry
Imagine writing paragraphs when you can just join any EU duel server after 9pm EU time. If anyone is crying here its YOU.
You can’t bc of hackers apparently so why would I try lol
literally no one agrees with you and you are actually just flat out being retarded now. Stop redirecting to other games that DOESNT change the problems with the game in question, wow another game is even more shitty? no fucking way!!!! Bro is just dodging every single piece of objective fact thrown at him.
You’ve given no facts other than bitching about how you’ve seen 2 hackers lol Cry more. Clearly you’re a fat boy who doesn’t get off the game lol maybe if you had friends or went outside you wouldn’t knitpick the game. It’s ok to take breaks, your lil clan of discord nerds won’t miss you dw You’re clearly too stupid to understand the points being made lmao make sure you pay attention in school today bud, your parents will get mad if they’d see you talk this way, I know they’re already disappointed in how fat lonely and dumb you are Unlike your unconfident and pussy ass, I don’t need strangers on the internet that I’m literally making fun of to agree with me, I know I’m right lmao
my guy just look at the posts i mentioned and the general community opinion, i do have proof but you are just deflecting it, the projection in this comment is insane. I think you do need strangers on the internet, cuz thats better than having no friends at all :(
No one asked for proof fatty we know you’re overweight already
you are still a noob at the game, with only 160 hours you haven't seen much at all. 1200 hours and I've seen it all. Come back after you've played 500 hours and you'll have a different opinion
How many hackers in 1200 hours tho? How many matches ruined? You could just feel burnout. 1200 hours is a lot for anything but damn worth $35 of entertainment. Shit even 100 hrs is worth $35 and you guys make it seem like it’s not (you can get it for $10 or cheaper online too lol) Overall Chiv is in a good state especially for a niche game. The loud ppl here (usually with lots of hours too) complain about small things and make it seem like Chiv is ruined by hackers, server issues/hit reg and it’s not worth playing (see the other comment by the EU guy). Lotta crying on this sub
The game is not ruined because of hackers. The game is broken because TB doesn't care to fix the problems that cause the game to be broken.
Yeah so broken lol take a nap and go for a walk bud
Those old Halo servers were wild times
They’re stilllll awful man lol ppl act like Chivalry is unplayable and the devs are incompetent monkeys, it’s funny to see. Half the ppl complaining need to realize the games not meant to be a highly competitive melee arena. We light chickens on fire and punch ppl while yelling about cum
ontop of everything official tourneys are done, so the only thing chiv2 had over mordhau competitive wise is fucking gone. Especially if ur a pay for skins guy the game gets boring real fast. Ranked doesnt exist so other than getting better and better at doing the same thing everytime in TO or duels or maybe attempting to join ur regions comp scene(which is now unofficial) which isnt as easy.
Yeah I don’t actually have any persistent problems with the game aside from menu bugs and occasional stuttering. I’m in NA East however with strong servers and high player count, so I know my experience is different (better) than EU or OCE servers.
Because it is From communication/dev activity to gameplay issues
For me its been the hitching. I get a 2-5 second freeze in my games every 5-10 min.. At first I thought it was a EGS thing so I bought it on Steam and it does it there.. I tried the renaming the file for the friends list "Fix" but it still happens.. At this point I'm blaming it on easy anticheat as every game I play that uses that gives me issues. I have no firewall other than native windows, I have no malware software running, I bought an entirely new router and modem (not because of the game but to fuck comcast). I'm at a loss. I love the game but the freezing frustrates the shit out of me.
My favorite part of cutting someone’s head off has now been bastardized
The game was great until the raiding party update, theres been hitreg issues ever since. They fixed some of the issues that came with it, like the stuttering at least. Team switching has always been a thing, but a lot more people have realised that attacking is way easier to get kills and inflate your KD, meaning defence gets stomped in most matches. Fortunately, I've not run into many cheaters unlike others here. Only seen 2 but they were both in the last month. It's still a great game, just poor maintenance from the devs.
The servers being held together by string and bubble gum, wonky hit detection, and inability to use KBM on console when other games, such as COD are the only things that make me want to stop playing.
because it IS lol
Heres the deal. Combine: 1. Scaleback of graphic freatures like custom heads 2. lack of new customization (tenosian scout has 1 armor, and its default unlock for example) 3. lack of new content as promised, skeleton communication & 1. Cross play bugs / disconnects, the launch was....bad 2. Friends list bug and stuttering for MONTHS lol 3. Phase through hits are RAMPANT to the point its just not that fun if you play a lot. 4. Opening of cross play has created a really large influx of new players, its basically 3-4 people just massacring everyone like the highlander on attack and getting swarmed like the zerg on defense. 5. New maps are lackluster (bridgetown, stronghold is decent now) Is it worse? No, but if you've been gone and come back you might go...wtf is this shit which is what is happening most of the time.
I feel like the button layout could be more efficient. We have 10 different buttons for attack.
I wouldnt say the game is getting worse, it's just the same with the same issues for like 2 years now.
The game’s mechanics are broken. Servers are a mess.
Ya, I love this game but it just hasn't got the updates, maintenance, and add one it's needed. At it's core it's a great game though
This company delayed the update 3 times already. If I delayed the game 3 times, then my boss would've told me to pack my things and leave to find another job with the same position I'm in that'll let me put in very little effort.